Topic: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed Since 2014 - page 282. (Read 1210750 times)

Thanks for reaching out CZ.  Sorry, I don't Skype and prefer to communicate in the open thread.

I am extremely (often obnoxiously) literate in English.  Since it's the only language I know, I would be ashamed to not be a top expert in it.   

I studied linguistics and rhetoric at one of the best universities in the world (the very best by some objective measures).

Trust me when I say that Boolberry is a very good name, and one you should be proud of along with the project it represents.

The Golden Gate Bridge was not supposed to be the color it is now.  The plan was to paint it a different color than the original red primer/rustproofing stuff.  But people got used to it, came to love it, and were outraged when it was time to change it.

By accident, a name you perhaps only intended to be temporary has caught on, and is now beloved by some and tolerated by many others.  Those who will still not tolerate the name are in the wrong.  They should get used to it.  Don't sweat the haters.

Mike is one of those haters, that's just his nature and it's fine.  Don't make us put up with RUNE or GTFO, that's like painting the Golden Gate Bridge black and expecting the tourists to not complain/run away in droves.

'Rune' is such a terrible name it could destroy all your hard work.  It is the opposite of BBR's unique Google-friendly persona.

Where BBR is light, cheerful, and silly, Rune is dark, grim, and yet still cheesy.

Stick with what is working.  Please don't 'fix it until it breaks.'  BBR is doing so well (although still undervalued), don't risk such magical technology on silly affairs like nomenclature. 

You lose me, and many others, at "SEO."  We will not accept Scam Engine Optimization as a substitute for a clean, memorable coin name.  SEO is like spam, and far below BBR's high quality standards.

Your community is your network effect.  If you alienate part of your community, that damage is non-linear and its effects are compounded by defections to the rival Monero camp. 

Cheers,

-iB

What about Boolberry Rune ?   

Nah.  As someone who's tried to correct factual errors in the presentation of BBR in other threads (and, to be fair, errors about other CN coins as well -- I'm a fan of reality, not FUD), the number of times people put the name as the #1 reason that is better than BBR is ... astounding.  I don't know if they really believe it, but they yell about it enough that my take on this is that windjc and zoidberg *are* paying attention.

No name is going to make everyone happy.  But there is a real trend in historical posts that they're responding to, and while I too have gotten used to BBR, I agree with their decision personally.  (And like Rune best of the available options.  :-)

There are many reasons why BBR has 1/15 the market cap of XMR. (and all speaks for BBR)

Do you want i give you a list why? (the MRO fans will not be happy)

It is current a problem for you that it´s have only 1/15 market cap right now?



 

You know CZ that i´m in, in BBR since first time and i was very happy that you are chosen this nice name Boolbeery for these new and advanced CrytoNote technology.

Many what iCEBREAKER, damashup and sussex write about the Black Metal, RPG, D&D stuff  for RUNE i agree too and must nothing append.

What not said yet is that to Boolberry you can get a lovely emotional feeling and can stay connected stronger than to something technically / nerdy / dark / monetary (this is that i find even the name Boolberry better than Monero)
The emotional connection is very important in the marketing and branding!

If do some marketing stuff, you have to research and estimate your potential new user base.

So i ask you again: Do you really expect what we get a wider user base on the re-branding, most likely only in first-english languages countries, and is this worth, to lose and not to establish a emotional connection the the brand name?
Why not try to start the marketing campaign with Boolberry?

   

A dead exchange full of dead coins all with a common theme......

http://archive.today/MseTP

Can you guess what it is yet?

Haven't been following this a long time, but it looks to me there is much ado about nothing going on here.

Perhaps BBR's slow and steady growth should be considered, because of its technical strengths. The name may not be very trendy right now, but at the same time the proof of the pudding should be in its ingredients and flavor simultaneously.

Essentially, by this I mean I am not against renaming. But it shouldn't be done lightly, and it is less important than advancing the coin technically.

Windjs is an expert in SEO.  But Boolberry is completely unique and thus already naturally optimized for search engines.

Obviously, we must change to a generic word with problematic nasty Pagan/neckbeard/skinhead connotations, so windjc can 'add value' by performing his miracles of artificial SEO.

Nobody from Google could possibly notice, much less black/brown list Rune for, gaming their system.

http://www.fastcompany.com/3014582/leadership-now/why-startups-have-such-stupid-names

Glenn Romanelli, president and creative director of Lighthaus Design - "Take chances, be funny, be weird. You want to be unforgettable"

"I just don't think most people would associate runes with that stuff. All of us here are "in the know" about nerdy things."

There are a lot of people outside of crypto who also know about nerdy things. Relying on people's ignorance is arrogant and dangerous.


"zoidberg, this is a sign of you being on the right track with the rebranding mate. "

Jesus, does this logical fallacy never die? I guess you're the guy who says coin x price is collapsing because a whale is buying up the coin, when in fact the coin is dying.


"SEO will be taken care of. It will not be an issue. In fact, if RUNE wins, it will be in so many press releases, blogs and and articles in the future that the serps will completely change."

What is the fucking point of changing the name to something that needs cash spending on SEO when the name you already have puts you at the top of google without any help at all. Oh, and SEO doesn't work, it's a massive con. I do know about marketing, it being a large part of my job.


"Actually it is broken. Perhaps you can explain to the community why BBR has 1/15 the market cap of XMR although it has better technology and development? "

It's at the lower price because the market is stupid and takes ages to catch up. If you think changing the name will change that, you are stupid too.


" who will buy my Rune dumps?"

Not me, I'll be dumping myself. The Boolberry name makes the coin stand apart from the crowd, Runes just sounds like another shit coin..... with SEO  


When do other companies change their name? When they are in the shit.

Just concentrate on the tech, changing the name is so superficial that it detracts from the coin - lets take it seriously.

+1

Can we rename to Dragon?

How many Dragons do you have?
I wish I had more Dragons, I should buy them when they were young. Fucking viral, China would go crazy

You're so wrong and paranoid. What you fail to realize is that most of BBR owners are also XMR owners. The reverse isnt true though. I hated with great passion the name Boolberry. I agree it sounds terrible at first, but it grows on you. I also agree that if you want to expand your community towards more non-XMR owners, you'd be better off rebranding - this is what i've been advocating since BBR beginnings -, but for christ sake, choose a correct name, not some scifi wannabe tough name : because thats what vortex and rune are. As a name, they are above darkcoin simply because they lack the word coin. FWIW I'm completely with iCEBREAKER on what the name rune makes me think about.

Also, an argument could be made that the name doesnt matter and that if the tech is good people will buy and use BBR. I can already hear you telling me then lets take "rune" if the name doesnt matter. My answear is that there are plenty of better names than rune : Rings, for instance.

Yes, so was my first "leave it BBR" post.  That's BS.  I'm not buying either, even though this 10% drop would be a place where I normally would.

Hopefully our marketing to the trenchcoat/black metal/Mortal Kombat/Viking/wizard/time traveler/white power/New Age bullshit community will make up for all of us alienated by our exclusion from the undemocratic, predetermined yet compulsory rebranding process.

If not, who will buy my Rune dumps?  

I suggested boolberry better than all three suggested names in the "official" thread. My post was deleted there.

I am not buying BBR.

LMAO, seems like the results are trickling in. As long as you play stupid, you have some support. Otherwise dumpage.

/POPCORN/

There are several excellent reasons for BBR to be the palladium to XMR's platinum:

-TacoTime
-Risto Pietila
-network effect

You are not going to force the invisible hand of the market with a pathetic re-brand featuring a godawful name.

That move reeks of desperation.  It will put off people like me and have the opposite of your intended effect.  I will dump the crap out of Rune, and am probably not alone.

OTOH, there are not a bunch of people clamoring for freshly branded Runes.

If you want to change that 1/15 XMR market cap and implode it down to 1/90 or lower, the Rune rebrand is a great idea.  

BBR has some great things going for it, even vs XMR.  The 1% dev fee looks like a great idea, given XMR's budget crunch (I'm working on a solution, will post it soon).

2 minute blocks may be the better choice.  Only time will tell, unless dominated by the QWERTY effect.

BBR has a nice wallet and logo too.  BBR is like a toddler, too old to rename but too young to be reasonably expected to be a huge success.  Be patient and focus on the tech, not the hype, pumps, and instant gratification.

   Oh and here's yet another scuzzy metal band that represents the common perception of "Rune"

http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Runic/986

Agree. It just draws too much of attention from all around

QFE.

and you think changing the name from Boolberry to Rune with some SEO is going to accomplish this....

Good points all around. However, the bolded part above is what is going to change, imo. There is no reason anymore for BBR to be anyone's "silver."