Topic: Beastlymac - scammed me for 3.1 btc - gridseeds group buy - page 5. (Read 17720 times)

A member called WASPJoe has offered to do just that in the other thread.

I know I said I was gone hehe I couldn't resist watching...


Why don't you guys have a 3rd party mediate this and decide
If all parties are confident in there actions....there should be no problem doing that... ?

Interesting you call me out for omitting information when you can't answer questions yourself as you know that they put you in a bad light. The core of this issue was already posted. If we look at the core of this issue. Your brother agreed to the terms of no refund when he ordered and now wants a refund i am upholding the rules that he agreed to. You clearly haven't read enough of the gridseed sales thread to comprehend what actually happened. Are you seriously trying to tell me (the person who organised things and has the best idea of what actually happened in the group buy) that i intentionally set out to scam people please provide some proof that my intention when i started the grubby was to scam people. If it had be do you think they would have received miners? You have just turned into a circus act of false accusations. You have lied to the community deal with the facts and issues at hand ANSWER ALL QUESTIONS IN POST 303 STOP AVOIDING THE TRUTH.

You point here "people got used goods" you phrased that as plural. I only saw one post where a person talked about dust please provide the multiple examples that you are claiming exist. You claimed that i mined on peoples (again plural) miners when it could not have happened as i had not touched them. Or even had them in the same country as me.

The loss your brother incurred stemmed from the fact (the original thing that caused all of this to occur) that your brother didn't provide his postage details. Then you and your brother claimed he paid to "reserve" the miners (a lie) as it was never required anyone pay to reserve the miners.

Please take your extortion attempts elsewhere.

i have not lied to community, i posted facts based on your pms.
then you took private list out of the hat what i wouldnt know so you state that i lied. it is plain stupid.

what i should qoute more from #303? does it really matter?

lets focus at core of this scam.

fact is you have scammed my brother not responding to him within 4 months
that you have refunded proceeds from your auction does not matter fact that they lost value during your scam time.

fact is that your gridseed group buy ended with disaster. people ordered 300+ gridseeds with promised delivery date 13.02.2014, people got used goods without accesories at end of april, some of them used.

fact is you have performed pure scam attempt on some of community members not responding to them while holding their miners/btc, not refunding/shipping goods in time

running with money or holding miners sealed within 4 months and not responding to communication results loss for customer. your recent scam on my brother implicated loss of 2.05 btc and your 0.05 proceeds are nothing comparing to 2.1 btc.

if you cant swallow this word scam, please use another one,
maybe incompetence, fraud, mistake (as you said 2500 pms at your inbox resulted this)

pay for your errors, compensate scammed out of your or your supplier pocket, try to clean your reputation.

or stay forever as little sad untrustworthy beastlymac. (scammer)

what i have missed?
that you or your supplier have scammed community for 30+ btc?

maybe this that i accused you of mining ? no i didnt. read again my posts.

maybe my "slanderous lies" based on your pms to my brother that he have not ordered anything?

and that you have performed successfull scam attempt on my brother not responding to him within 4 months?

if you performed scam say sorry and pay for your errors.

if you want this case attached to your nick it is your problem.

stop qouting whole discussion and focus at matter.

say sorry to me, my brother, remove feedback, compensate for your scam and finish case like man.

prosperous lies? wtf
why it is impossible? if customer got used gridseeds someone was mining with it. maybe you or your middleman. someone did.




It is not accussation, it is question. If gridseeds has been ordered at 7.02.2014 and orders were fullfiled since march someone has made an error
Jinx reported that he got used miners at may.

You are not responsible for this ?

Lot of people were scammed same way, cointerra, bfl, vmc, avalon, bitmine etc.
getting miners months late

If you have offered compensation you should get it from your middleman and distribute to your customers.
If you have not received compensation from your middleman you should pay from your pocket.

You should know that mature seller is used to pay for his errors.




have you compensated for missing controllers, powers supply, hubs, lost mining time, used goods?
no.

you are scammer

You are welcome to your opinion but please respond to post number #303

feel free to order from scammer and have no response within 4 months and after half a year 95% loss.

it is scam.

Might be time to check into these 2 jokers and where they have pulled this before. Seems to be a well rehearsed game they are playing here. Probably pull this crap on Ebay etc to get their mining for free.

Extortionists.

I just posted that you have arranged sale and customer got used goods. If your middleman used it it is your fault so you should compensate.
What about rest of my post ?
Like you usually do you omit important parts.

pathetic

Your quote doesn't prove that i used them. It claims dust was on the miner. So you are saying i used them? Just for conformation please say yes or no to this question.

i said he ordered and paid at 7.02
in fact he has send you pm 5.02 and you stated that order was sent 7.02
i dont see lie there, only misunderstanding.


It is not accussation, it is question. If gridseeds has been ordered at 7.02.2014 and orders were fullfiled since march someone has made an error
Jinx reported that he got used miners at may.

You are not responsible for this ?

Lot of people were scammed same way, cointerra, bfl, vmc, avalon, bitmine etc.
getting miners months late

If you have offered compensation you should get it from your middleman and distribute to your customers.
If you have not received compensation from your middleman you should pay from your pocket.

You should know that mature seller is used to pay for his errors.




have you compensated for missing controllers, powers supply, hubs, lost mining time, used goods?
no.

you are scammer

lying2
ˈlʌɪɪŋ/
adjective
not telling the truth.
"he's a lying, cheating, snake in the grass"


You said I had a list with only your brother on it that was a lie. You said he ordered on the 7/2/2014 that was a lie.

Those two days do matter as they are the difference between his order being valid and invalid you have lied in an attempt to deceit people reading this thread.


Very big accusation to make by basing it on no proof. To my knowledge nobody mined on any of the devices that where shipped to customers who ordered in that groupbuy.

you dont understand what lie means?

so i lied that you had private list becouse you stated that?

my fresh "lie", sorry he paid 5.02.2014, i made mistake.

those 2 days does not matter though.

jason20005 has not received miners/btc at 26.04.2014 so in my opinion he has been scammed by you too (or your middleman).
if he received items 27.04.2014 his items would be valued 4+ times less.
so who was mining with his gridseeds between feb and may ?

Wether or not the rules are standard for other people doesn't make a difference i set out my rules at the beginning that your brother accepted.

Jason20005 should have received his miners.

I have also already posted multiple times about why miners where late.
Please come up with something original instead of repeating things that have already been answered.

I replied to your brother before you sent me a message threatening to ruin my account if i don't comply with your demands (blackmail)

I already commented on why the feedback is true.




In your other thread you have lied again.

they are not idealistic they are standart for canary, yxt, ssb, etc

would you imagine that any of them is holding your goods within 4 months and not responding to pms?
asking for email "to speed up communication" and not responding to that emails ?


if you made an error, pay for it!



ok so 500.000$ for usb miners.
and 70+ btc loss generated by you (promising date 13.02, delivering months later, used goods - gridseed scam buy )

nice.


You got his message signed at 13.03.2014, why you have not paid that time, instead you have started to ignore him till july when i joined the party? (hero member with perfect clean account and reputation, i suggested scam thread ) ?



holding within 4 months customer equipment/btc not responding (intentionally) to his pms and emails is scam attempt.
this time you have succeded attempt (customer got 95% loss).

can you explain jason20005 ? got his miners/btc? or is it next scam evidence ?
or Mr Jinx who got his 10 gridseeds at may and you put negative feedback at him ?



about my next "lie"


ok here you are

your false feedback thread is here. i hope you will be banned after Mr Jinx activity and my profile spam
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8543491

Every group buy does not have to adhear to your idealistic goals do you deny that your brother agreed to the terms i am upholding?

For me it complies with the rules he agreed to because it does. That is a fact.



Those posts from the other thread should make it clear to you my reasoning.