I'm going to speculate and guess they're trying to buy time to work something out with the provision that if he comes forward, they aren't going to give him anything.
It's extremely shady not to be as transparent as possible in this matter especially when it's such good publicity if you're actually keeping your word and paying it out. I doubt this is the case by what's been happening.
Topic: BetSoft Non-Payment of Jackpot - page 10. (Read 17835 times)
Just got an Email from Bovada and they are disabling all their Betsoft games until they can figure out what to do about the problems with the Betsoft software. They're acknowledging there's a problem and they are investigating the situation.
Jason ain't responding again. He might have been bribed with say 50k $
And probably forced to sign an NDA. Either with Betsoft, Betcoin or both.
That NDA would be pretty useless since they would have to consent to whatever jurisdiction Jason lives in to enforce it.
(it could only be enforced by a court in his country)
I don't have any clue then why he hasn't said a word since he was supposed to get a call from Betcoin.
Jason ain't responding again. He might have been bribed with say 50k $
And probably forced to sign an NDA. Either with Betsoft, Betcoin or both.
That NDA would be pretty useless since they would have to consent to whatever jurisdiction Jason lives in to enforce it.
(it could only be enforced by a court in his country)
Jason ain't responding again. He might have been bribed with say 50k $
And probably forced to sign an NDA, either with Betsoft, Betcoin or both.
Jason ain't responding again. He might have been bribed with say 50k $
Eww. It's always so disgusting when a casino refuses to pay out a jackpot when they can easily afford to do so, and people have been losing on their site for years and years.
Hopefully you can get your coins back, but seriously the amount seems way too high. Good luck.
Hopefully you can get your coins back, but seriously the amount seems way too high. Good luck.
If you wanna know the truth why you haven't heard from Jason, its because he was probably "paid off" by Betcoin to simply shut up about it. This topic has drastically killed their marketing and player base. I'm sure that Jason and Betcoin talked it out, and decided on a number (much smaller than the jackpot) for him to just stop talking.
Hopefully they are trying to find 500+ bitcoin to pay Jason.
The fact that Jason has gone quiet probably means communication has been made, just not a resolution.
Betcoin has completely changed their tune from: (I'm paraphrasing here)
"Of course Jason didn't win. Any casino would agree with us, it's not our fault, we're just following the rules (that don't exist) usually players understand this, we wonder why Jason doesn't?"
To:
Don't worry about the spammers guys. They also help drive traffic to Betcoin.ag and keep our thread at the top.
As the forum rep, all we can say right now is that jasonort has continued to play at Betcoin everyday since his Betsoft issue and we have worked very hard for him on this. We will always do what is right for our players and there will be more information to follow. We have not talked publicly about the matter because it just leads to speculation and trolling which is not productive or conducive to progress. This happened to jasonort and he still plays with us almost everyday. We would have done the same for all of our great players.
On another note, our traffic and play has been very solid in all aspects and we want to thank all of your for your support and involvement in our program. Another stage coming soon!
(I'm the spammer they are referring to by the way)As the forum rep, all we can say right now is that jasonort has continued to play at Betcoin everyday since his Betsoft issue and we have worked very hard for him on this. We will always do what is right for our players and there will be more information to follow. We have not talked publicly about the matter because it just leads to speculation and trolling which is not productive or conducive to progress. This happened to jasonort and he still plays with us almost everyday. We would have done the same for all of our great players.
On another note, our traffic and play has been very solid in all aspects and we want to thank all of your for your support and involvement in our program. Another stage coming soon!
Thats right, they have claimed "We have not talked publicly about the matter"
Despite over a week ago sig campaign thread:
Most of the top casinos feature Betsoft games and you play directly on the casinos servers under their rules and we pay out based on this and are credited on a big win such as this would have been. It would have been awesome for us from a marketing perspective to announce this win, but it is not a jackpot win within Betsoft's rules as it is a free spin and not a max bet paid round according to Betsoft. The result would have been the same on any other website.
Or 3 days after Jason hit the jackpot:
More recently in their chat room:
If you wanna know the truth why you haven't heard from Jason, its because he was probably "paid off" by Betcoin to simply shut up about it. This topic has drastically killed their marketing and player base. I'm sure that Jason and Betcoin talked it out, and decided on a number (much smaller than the jackpot) for him to just stop talking.
Betcoin Andrew: The last comment I am allowed to make on this is jasonort is very happy with the way we have vigorously handled the matter.
And why haven't we heard that from him? He has not been back that I know of.
Why hasn't he been back to let everyone know what happened?
Is Betcoin making him keep quiet?
(I had to laugh a bit on the "vigorously" part, given that they are a no-show in this and countless other threads regarding similar circumstances.)
HOF comment from Betcoin chat
Betcoin Andrew: The last comment I am allowed to make on this is jasonort is very happy with the way we have vigorously handled the matter.
Betcoin Andrew: The last comment I am allowed to make on this is jasonort is very happy with the way we have vigorously handled the matter.
And why haven't we heard that from him? How have they vigorously handled it when they completely blew him off until he started to make big waves on all the casino sites? According to jasonort, Betcoin was supposed to call him yesterday. He said he would be back and let everyone know how it went. He has not been back that I know of. So, if he is very happy does that mean that they did call him? If so then why hasn't he been back to let everyone know what happened? Is Betcoin making him keep quiet? Too many unanswered questions.
HOF comment from Betcoin chat
Betcoin Andrew: The last comment I am allowed to make on this is jasonort is very happy with the way we have vigorously handled the matter.
Betcoin Andrew: The last comment I am allowed to make on this is jasonort is very happy with the way we have vigorously handled the matter.
Most unprofessional bitcoin casino. Nice find Twichy!
Wow, because a player hits and they re-word the terms of service just like that..
It shows to never ever play on that site lol.
Thats seriously some shady crap though and its amazing they still havent replied back on here based on the response here. Which doesnt make it any better on their rep.
It shows to never ever play on that site lol.
Thats seriously some shady crap though and its amazing they still havent replied back on here based on the response here. Which doesnt make it any better on their rep.
Nice find Twitchy. You gotta love that; Change the Terms of Service but make it look like it was always that way by not changing the Last Updated date. That is criminal all by itself. Probably took those idiots a whole lot of time to figure out how to do that too.
disgusting
Here are the three versions of the games pay schedule that I've seen over the past few days:
Also, caught Betcoin demonstrating their remarkable lack of both ethics and intelligence.
Betcoins Terms as of 13 Apr 2016 08:10:37 UTC: https://archive.is/GntG5
The Same Terms as of today, 30 Jun 2016 18:17:27 UTC: https://archive.is/W0wVZ
Live Version: https://www.betcoin.ag/node/3549
They added these two sentences after Jason hit the jackpot.
How about now?
Also, caught Betcoin demonstrating their remarkable lack of both ethics and intelligence.
Betcoins Terms as of 13 Apr 2016 08:10:37 UTC: https://archive.is/GntG5
The Same Terms as of today, 30 Jun 2016 18:17:27 UTC: https://archive.is/W0wVZ
Live Version: https://www.betcoin.ag/node/3549
They added these two sentences after Jason hit the jackpot.
I personally trust betcoin.ag
How about now?
This is bullshit of the highest order. Of course they changed it after I have inundated them with emails to their support, and any other employee I could find the email address for. I have yet to get a response from them. This just shows that they screwed up in not having this language there before. Obviously they are covering their tracks. But my screenshots don't lie. When I was playing this language was not there. They should pay me this jackpot.
I checked. It does appear on the Paytable now.
I Googled The Glam Life Paytable, and the first image I got:
At this rate they would soon be adding "No bet can win more than the bet amount"...
Nice! Building awareness here! That's how it's done! I hope Betsoft gets right....but we've all seen how that goes once these places force the issue....However, they do have some of the better software so maybe they'll try to salvage their reputation, fix their ways, and pay jason.
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