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July 11, 2016, 12:57:51 AM
#92
He goes ranting everywhere about how he got scammed,  then suddenly goes annoyingly silent or post off the point replies. With due respek to the people reading this, I must say fuck u jason
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July 10, 2016, 11:39:34 PM
#91
I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.
Am I the only one tjat thinks this jason dude is begining to sound annoying?
He now writes as if betcoin tells him what to say or betcoin is actu allly posting on his behalf.
DUDE TELL US HOW IT WAS RESOLVED, TELL US HOW MUCH YOU WHERE PAID OR JUST CLOSE THE fucCKN THREAD

DUDE,

betcoin is obviously telling him what to say so...

rip jasonoort
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July 10, 2016, 08:35:10 PM
#90
I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.
Am I the only one tjat thinks this jason dude is begining to sound annoying?
He now writes as if betcoin tells him what to say or betcoin is actu allly posting on his behalf.
DUDE TELL US HOW IT WAS RESOLVED, TELL US HOW MUCH YOU WHERE PAID OR JUST CLOSE THE fucCKN THREAD
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July 09, 2016, 05:22:32 AM
#89
Just got an Email from Bovada and they are disabling all their Betsoft games until they can figure out what to do about the problems with the Betsoft software.  They're acknowledging there's a problem and they are investigating the situation.
Hey betcoin fan, where did your post go?!
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July 09, 2016, 04:32:42 AM
#88

Since then I believe exactly one progressive has been hit.  It's been 2 years since.

Congratulations to www.BetcoinCasino.com's btc2014 who scored a 3,800 mbtc progressive jackpot at 3D Slot Greedy Goblins.  The progressives have now reached 443,268.85 mbtc at www.BetcoinCasino.com.  Come win some bitcoin today.



http://www.betcoincasino.com/games/progressive

Are you saying that a user called "btc2014" won the only jackpot paid out in the last 2 years or am I reading that totally wrong? Now if I did read it right, it seems like a stunningly generic and hastily made up fake account that "won the jackpot". Out of all the usernames in the world, the winner of a jackpot bitcoin payout in 2014 was called "btc2014" and not one of the million random usernames people use like "billybob1983". As this whole thread proves, it's highly questionable that they ever intended to make a jackpot winnable or release it
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July 09, 2016, 03:03:11 AM
#87
I think jasonrt said that he had reached a settlement.
A "settlement" means less than what he was obligated to receive.

I just hope that jasonrt got a fair settlement
Do you think anything less than the full amount of what was advertised to him would be "fair"?
How would you judge this situation, if you were robbed of your winning, which have been achieved fairly according to the back then running rules?

however, he seems to be satisfied with the result.
He's gotten something, probably that's better than getting nothing at all. Doesn't change the situation though, he had to settle for less than what he should get.

As for the Betcoin's signature and Avatar. It's no secret that I support Betcoin.ag. I have been playing with them a long time and they've always been more than fair with me.
Yet there are so many problems every now and then surfacing with them, this thread only being one of them.

As far as dropping the Betsoft software: I don't know the details of the settlement discussions but I trust Betcoin.ag's judgement. 
ALL reputable competitors have dropped BetSoft games immediately after hearing about this and similar issues with the provider.
Regardless of the settlement, can you really stand behind the decision of betcoin not to do the same?
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July 09, 2016, 02:20:15 AM
#86
I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.
Nice!  Does that mean Betsoft is off the hook?....or, did you sign a ND in those regards?  Anyhow, congratulations on getting something....we can't let the bad guys ruin it for everyone!  Great campaign to expose them.  I hope it was a fair settlement!
Are you really that retarded cjmoles?
Probably needs to put their conscience at rest, as they still are advertising betcoin.ag...
"The bad guys" are including the company you are featuring in both, your signature and your avatar,
or how can you explain yourself that they didn't yet drop all BetSoft software/games from their site?
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July 09, 2016, 02:19:12 AM
#85
I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.

Nice!  Does that mean Betsoft is off the hook?....or, did you sign a ND in those regards?  Anyhow, congratulations on getting something....we can't let the bad guys ruin it for everyone!  Great campaign to expose them.  I hope it was a fair settlement!

Are you really that retarded cjmoles?
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July 09, 2016, 02:14:21 AM
#84
I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.

Nice!  Does that mean Betsoft is off the hook?....or, did you sign a ND in those regards?  Anyhow, congratulations on getting something....we can't let the bad guys ruin it for everyone!  Great campaign to expose them.  I hope it was a fair settlement!
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July 08, 2016, 11:32:33 PM
#83
https://www.casinolistings.com/news/2016/07/betcoin-ag-betsoft-force-shafted-jackpot-winner-into-agreement

Owner of Casinolistings commented:

Ok I'm trying this out.  I'm waiting on deposit to confirm.

I notice when I click progressives on the top of screen I'm taken to some slot options.  Then if I hover over the slots it says "progressive: no".  are they progressive payout or not?

edit:  my deposit has a confirmation but it still shows that I have the balance but it's not available
What is your username?  You can pm us if you wish.  Deposits are instant with zero confirmations.  

The progressives are definitely paying out.  We are looking into this right now.  

Since then I believe exactly one progressive has been hit.  It's been 2 years since.

Congratulations to www.BetcoinCasino.com's btc2014 who scored a 3,800 mbtc progressive jackpot at 3D Slot Greedy Goblins.  The progressives have now reached 443,268.85 mbtc at www.BetcoinCasino.com.  Come win some bitcoin today.



http://www.betcoincasino.com/games/progressive
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July 07, 2016, 06:48:41 PM
#82
Everything we all hate about fiat money casinos in a bitcoin one.
All around scammy behavior, how many accounts do they have on this forum?
Well, let's count. There's those of course:
BetcoinSports
Betcoin.AG

Then there's aswell:
BetcoinPoker
Betcoin Sports
BetcoinPartners

Maybe those are theirs, maybe not:
BetcoinCasino
Betcoin Gaming

And that's just the ones being named BetcoinXYZ.



Looks like Betcoin.ag finally changed the "Last updated" on their ToS.
And it only needed a negative feedback for them to do that.
You'd think countless posts by Twitchy pointing it out would be sufficient. Turns out, they aren't.

Don't forget these: (I ran them out of town a few months ago)
ftwbtc1
noobtc


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/whats-wrong-with-betcoinag-heres-a-list-1322261  <---scroll about half way down op to "Betcoin Shill Section" to connect ftwbtc1 to noobtc
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/betcoinag-shills-1365849 <---- ftwbtc1 = Betcoin Jessica

If anyone ever wonders what happens when a shill is reported to the manager of the sig campaign sponsered by the actual shill:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13963263
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13964901
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July 07, 2016, 06:31:24 PM
#81
Everything we all hate about fiat money casinos in a bitcoin one.
All around scammy behavior, how many accounts do they have on this forum?
Well, let's count. There's those of course:
BetcoinSports
Betcoin.AG

Then there's aswell:
BetcoinPoker
Betcoin Sports
BetcoinPartners

Maybe those are theirs, maybe not:
BetcoinCasino
Betcoin Gaming

And that's just the ones being named BetcoinXYZ.



Looks like Betcoin.ag finally changed the "Last updated" on their ToS.
And it only needed a negative feedback for them to do that.
You'd think countless posts by Twitchy pointing it out would be sufficient. Turns out, they aren't.
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July 07, 2016, 04:13:15 PM
#80
Looks like Betcoin.ag finally changed the "Last updated" on their ToS.

Everything we all hate about fiat money casinos in a bitcoin one.

All around scammy behavior, how many accounts do they have on this forum?
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Spear the bees
July 07, 2016, 04:10:33 PM
#79
Looks like Betcoin.ag finally changed the "Last updated" on their ToS.
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July 07, 2016, 10:30:44 AM
#78
We wanted to update everyone with the great news after a tremendous amount of hard work by the Betcoin.ag Staff.

Jasonort Case Resolution

blah blah bullshit blah

That is one of the lamest things that I have ever had the misfortune of reading. While you're busy talking this crap and paying off poor Jason (who is in a no-win situation) to shut up, other casinos are busy dropping Betsoft's crooked games completely. It is clear that neither you nor Betsoft has paid this jackpot that Jason won, so you're just as bad as each other. You could have stood up for your player and done the right thing and applied some pressure to Betsoft and compelled them to pay but you didn't. You wimped out and sadly for you have ruined your reputation in the process.

Casino Listings will continue to actively warn people against playing at your casino because you simply cannot be trusted.
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July 06, 2016, 08:48:58 PM
#77
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?

Were you at the fireside chat?

I personally would like to see details of what deal was made to jasonrt. Personally the fact that nothing is being handled publically shows the lack of professionalism by betcoin and betsoft. With them also crying in previous post about their rep taking a hit is hilarious.

To betcoin.ag your rep took a hit because you guys decided to take it upon yourselves to handle this in a totally unacceptable way. Sure you can claim jasonrt is happy. Id be happy too if i went from getting 0 of what i legitimately won to getting something(who knows what that something is).

Bottom line DO NOT PLAY at betcoin as youll obviously be fucked over n have to settle for less than expected.

 "This settlement is confidential, so please don't ask the details." This is a direct quote from jasonrt on the betcoin ag website. Basically confirming he was paid to shut up.

Jason imglad you got some money out of the deal but im pretty sure id hit the withdrawal button and run before they fuck you outta some more money

No, I am banned from Betcoin.

I often create new accounts to talk to other Betcoin players, but as soon as management notices I'm there they ban the account and delete anything I've said from all archives.  (fireside chat would be bad time to create new account for me)

Posting these questions to Jason in each thread Betcoin decided to share their "resolution" 



Jason,

I'm glad you got paid something but obviously it was not the 505+ BTC jackpot. 

1)  How much did you get?

2)  Was your voice here on the forum part of the negotiations?  ( Translate: have you been paid to post nice things about Betcoin )

3)  Will you continue to play Glam Life? 

4)  Will you continue to play the other progressive jackpot slots provided by Betsoft?

5)  Do you support Betcoins decision to continue offering these games, unlike Bovada, Slots.lv, Bitcasino.io, Vegascasino.io and any other site who removed them after learning of your experience?
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July 06, 2016, 08:22:49 PM
#76
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?

Were you at the fireside chat?

I personally would like to see details of what deal was made to jasonrt. Personally the fact that nothing is being handled publically shows the lack of professionalism by betcoin and betsoft. With them also crying in previous post about their rep taking a hit is hilarious.

To betcoin.ag your rep took a hit because you guys decided to take it upon yourselves to handle this in a totally unacceptable way. Sure you can claim jasonrt is happy. Id be happy too if i went from getting 0 of what i legitimately won to getting something(who knows what that something is).

Bottom line DO NOT PLAY at betcoin as youll obviously be fucked over n have to settle for less than expected.

 "This settlement is confidential, so please don't ask the details." This is a direct quote from jasonrt on the betcoin ag website. Basically confirming he was paid to shut up.

Jason imglad you got some money out of the deal but im pretty sure id hit the withdrawal button and run before they fuck you outta some more money
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July 06, 2016, 06:55:10 PM
#75
We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  


How about a fireside chat somewhere that you can't bribe, ban and censor users based on what they say?

Or will you continue to pick and choose what you respond to and ignore the rest?
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July 06, 2016, 06:55:09 PM
#74
I am pleased to say that this matter has been resolved to my satisfaction by all parties involved. Responsibility has been taken by Betcoin.ag for lack of clarification from their customer support, Betsoft has acknowledged that the wording on the pay table may have been cause for misunderstanding with respect to jackpot eligibility. Both parties have been very helpful and cooperative in resolving this and made the necessary adjustments.
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July 06, 2016, 06:26:00 PM
#73
We wanted to update everyone with the great news after a tremendous amount of hard work by the Betcoin.ag Staff.

Jasonort Case Resolution

From the very second our great player jasonort came to us with his casino related issue, Betcoin.ag took immediate action working with the software provider to understand, explain and then complete a proper resolution of the matter. We were asked and chose to remain silent on the matter to the public because statements would only cause speculation which would not be conducive to what we believed would be a proper outcome.

The Betcoin.ag staff spent hours every day working and speaking with jasonort and the software provider to do what we thought was right for our great players. It took just over two weeks and many hours to complete what all parties believe is a proper and fair resolution. We would have it no other way.

Throughout this entire process jasonort can attest to the fact that the Betcoin.ag staff made ourselves available nearly 24/7 to answer every question and provide proper updates when available as we would have done for all of our great players. jasonort was also clear to never blame Betcoin.ag for this issue as this was clearly a software issue and would have happened on any other online casino.

As a result of the speculation however our reputation has taken a hit in this forum but we know that we did the right thing here and will always continue to do so. Throughout this entire circumstance jasonort continued to play at Betcoin.ag and so did many new and old Betcoin.ag players. We are very thankful for that.

We will always do the right thing at Betcoin.ag for our great players and we look forward to being your favorite place to play for many years to come. Thank you!

We will be holding a fireside chat in the Betcoin player chat with jasonort to discuss at 6:30pm EST.  Thank you all.  

During the fireside chat, Jasonort has announced a self funded  Thank You Freeroll that Betcoin Poker will match which will take place on Sunday, July 24, 2016.  Details to follow!  Mark your calendars!
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