Topic: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly" - page 57. (Read 108588 times)
NDAs.... reminds me of HashFast times
Lucky dog. They haven't gotten back to me yet.
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
Sorry man, signed a non-disclosure agreement.
What was the point announcing you're talking to them then?
Yes does not make a lot of sense... Perhaps he could post a copy of the NDA?
Rich
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
Sorry man, signed a non-disclosure agreement.
What was the point announcing you're talking to them then?
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
Is he talking about bitfury or innosilicon?
BitFury.
One day this industry will get by without NDAs. Bitfury has been screaming to the world about their chips so we already know their specs, and the technical information can in large parts be reverse engineered the second any OEM boards are shipped. The prices and sales conditions are something that funamendally should never be NDAed and its a sign of bad things. There's no good tweeting you want 2MB blocks when you're simultaneously keeping people quiet.
[For the record I was asked to sign an invalid NDA with Spondoolies, a gentleman's NDA with Bitmain, and nothing with any other company.]
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
Is he talking about bitfury or innosilicon?
BitFury.
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
Is he talking about bitfury or innosilicon?
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
Sorry man, signed a non-disclosure agreement.
We are in talks with them.
Let us know what you find out please
We are in talks with them.
Was the A2 a full custom design?
Bit more than a node shrink if it wasn't.
Bit more than a node shrink if it was - FinFET is a significantly different technology than what has come before.
Bit more than a node shrink if it wasn't.
Bit more than a node shrink if it was - FinFET is a significantly different technology than what has come before.
On the other hand, they have specifically hyped that the A4 is "proven technology" in their press release about it, and SPECIFIED it had already taped out.
Or only minor design changes + node shrink.
Innosilicon doesn't have and never has shown the "hype" mentality of most cryptocoin ASIC producers.
Consider how they introduced the A2 - AFTER they had it in full production.
I suspect it's that they don't RELY on cryptocoin chips, they had a long-established chip business before they came up with the A1.
On the other hand, they have specifically hyped that the A4 is "proven technology" in their press release about it, and SPECIFIED it had already taped out.
Consider how they introduced the A2 - AFTER they had it in full production.
I suspect it's that they don't RELY on cryptocoin chips, they had a long-established chip business before they came up with the A1.
On the other hand, they have specifically hyped that the A4 is "proven technology" in their press release about it, and SPECIFIED it had already taped out.
I do not think Inno taped out yet.
If this was the case , they would scream adds and PR
If this was the case , they would scream adds and PR
They taped out the scrypt A4 chip. Nothing on the SHA A3. They are also still looking for investors to buy the masks for the A4, so it will be a while before anything comes out...and definitely nothing on the horizon for SHA chips.
Source?
They are selling known-as-working-masks or searching investors to finance the masks?
http://www.innosilicon.com/html/news/11.html
They did say in at least one comment somewhere on bitcointalk that the A3 and A4 would be released at the same time - though the A3 might come out first since they apparently don't think they NEED "investors" to be worth proceeding with it.
I'd bet that one of their A4 investors is Zoomhash - they've been moving a lot of A2 units pretty cheap for a while now....
They taped out the scrypt A4 chip. Nothing on the SHA A3. They are also still looking for investors to buy the masks for the A4, so it will be a while before anything comes out...and definitely nothing on the horizon for SHA chips.
Source?
They are selling known-as-working-masks or searching investors to finance the masks?
I am waiting for updates 
TLDR; do not sell BTC to pay electricity
I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.
The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.
I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.
The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.
To the moon and beyond (confiscation).
I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.
The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.
I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.
The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.
To the moon and beyond (confiscation).
For big mining farms, they have to sell bitcoin to pay for the device and electricity. For home miners, we can keep the bitcoin.
TLDR; do not sell BTC to pay electricity
I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.
The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.
I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.
The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.
To the moon and beyond (confiscation).
I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.
The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.
I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.
The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.
To the moon and beyond (confiscation).
Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving Nah man, it's more like the relief you get when you quit a bad habit, like quitting smoking or something - Keeping up with hardware became un-fun.
Was fun for a while, though. Been there, done that, got the experience, having more fun following the markets and community now.
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