Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly" - page 58.

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Quote from: RoadStress on December 28, 2015, 04:25:59 PM

Quote from: Xian01 on December 28, 2015, 12:52:16 PM

Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...

Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving

That's what I was thinking, if you feel relief after stopping mining then you were doing it wrong.

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Quote from: Xian01 on December 28, 2015, 12:52:16 PM

Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...

Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving

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Quote from: rammy2k2 on December 28, 2015, 06:52:29 AM

soon, very soon mining for small miners like us, will be over, unless we get free electricity

I personally decided that it was game over around the time the S7 came out.

Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...

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soon, very soon mining for small miners like us, will be over, unless we get free electricity

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Interesting...
I hope we see, some updates about bitfury in january.

Otherwise its very difficult to calculate our ROI(

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Need at least 3, since Avalon doesn't seem interested in actually competing.

BW.com/Lketc probably January sometime.

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For sure there have to be at least 2 players in the retail market for home miners

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in my opinion, bitfury will chip in 16 nm, but as power hash will avalon6 like, overpriced, and less efficiency,.
fuck I say there is a company that knows how to create a machine with power 16nm 25 th / s, that consumption 1800 W? 2000W max? at an affordable price you home?
spondoolies created a miner too esorbidante, I think none of us can buy it, it costs a lot, and consumes much energy.
It remains only bitmain that has the market for the end user.

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'The right to privacy matters'

Well we just had 202 block day = fucking nuts

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Yeah. When are we expecting LK/BW machines to roll out? How many thousand S7 have been made? How many Avalon6 are sitting on their shelves churning away? And whatever happened to KFC's Solar chip? And 21e6 is probably still doing things behind their curtain. And who else might be, that we haven't heard of yet?

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I think that it's more likely a new batch of chinese iron put online

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Hashrate is skyrocketing -- 48 blocks were found within the last 4 hours... an event that is supposed to happen once every 50 years by chance. Blocks being found across many pools. My guess is these Bitfury ASICs are coming online and George is pointing them to many pools.

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I do not know about MMQ but for sure the chip price will be more expencive than full miners with this chip.
This is what it was with A2 chip sales.
Soecialy for low to medium batches

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They haven't put out a lot of hard info on the A3 so far - but they aren't bothering to look for investors for it, and they HAVE said they plan to release the A3 and A4 at the same time.

I also suspect the A3 is going to be a lot better than 0.2w/GH - based on the efficiency gains of the A4 vs. the A2 and the claimed efficiency of the already-existing full-custom 14/16nm designs, I'm betting on under 0.1 and more likely 0.06 ballpark.

They probably don't figure there's any significant risk on the A3 of not being able to sell enough of them to make a profit, given how much bigger the SHA256 market is.

They announced tape-out on the A3 in the SAME "leak" they mentioned it for the A4 back around July or so.

Innosilicon has been a miner manufacturer before - they built the A2 in 3 versions as a miner, the 88MH and 110MH units and that 60ish MH Farmboy thing.

I'd suspect that they'll have a fairly high MOQ on the chips for a while, but will drop it down eventually when they're not competing with themselves as much by selling smaller quantities of chips.

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I fix broken miners. And make holes in teeth :-)

Hm. Are there any pinouts or protocol specs on either of their chips? It would be a hoot to put them on old jalapeno boards....

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Quote from: dogie on December 23, 2015, 07:42:08 AM

I don't think Inno is really a miner manufacturer or really wants to be. They're actually what the Avalon team originally set out to be - chip designers who design a chip, send it out and immediately get working on the next one. Its possible you'll still be able to attain chips from one of their OEMs.

They started out that way, but I think after so many failures on manufacturers' behalves with the A1, they want to be a little more involved with the end-product this time around. They seemed receptive to the idea anyways.

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Quote from: kilo17 on December 23, 2015, 04:15:50 AM

or just go to their website, the new chips are on the website

http://www.innosilicon.com

They taped out the scrypt A4 chip. Nothing on the SHA A3. They are also still looking for investors to buy the masks for the A4, so it will be a while before anything comes out...and definitely nothing on the horizon for SHA chips.

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Quote from: QuintLeo on December 23, 2015, 04:07:15 AM

google "innnosilicon" and either "A3" or "A4"

Quite a few links that will find you, though a lot are reporting of the same few press releases.

Quote from: kilo17 on December 23, 2015, 04:15:50 AM

or just go to their website, the new chips are on the website

http://www.innosilicon.com

thanks but i know about the scrypt chip

there is nothing about the sha256 chip other than a casual mention of 0.2W which is not that good (similar to s7 at the wall 0.25W)

anyway, offtopic, sorry

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Quote from: Mitak on December 23, 2015, 06:19:45 AM

I see there is an announcement for A4, but no word for A3 that is sha 256 ASIC
Again "soon" ^tm

And as far I remember Inno will set a mad MOQ corresponding to +1M USD

I don't think Inno is really a miner manufacturer or really wants to be. They're actually what the Avalon team originally set out to be - chip designers who design a chip, send it out and immediately get working on the next one. Its possible you'll still be able to attain chips from one of their OEMs.

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I see there is an announcement for A4, but no word for A3 that is sha 256 ASIC
Again "soon" ^tm

And as far I remember Inno will set a mad MOQ corresponding to +1M USD

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