TLDR; do not sell BTC to pay electricity
I mine for heat, which translates to exchanging fiat for "more anonymous" BTC and getting the heat for free.
The only way to avoid confiscation of BTC is to mine.
I'm guessing it's about 99% certainty that we will get cashless base salary in the west when things go sour here, and that means they will ban private holding of BTC.
The whole "mining is over" meme is so old economy.
To the moon and beyond (confiscation).
Topic: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly" - page 58. (Read 108494 times)
Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving 
Nah man, it's more like the relief you get when you quit a bad habit, like quitting smoking or something - Keeping up with hardware became un-fun.
Was fun for a while, though. Been there, done that, got the experience, having more fun following the markets and community now.
Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving
That's what I was thinking, if you feel relief after stopping mining then you were doing it wrong.
Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
Well the most important aspect of mining as a hobby is to at least pay the electricity. If you were paying from your pocket then you were doing it wrong. So I wouldn't call it saving
soon, very soon mining for small miners like us, will be over, unless we get free electricity
I personally decided that it was game over around the time the S7 came out.
Was a fun hobby while it lasted. Saving a shit-tonne of $$$ on electricity per month since quitting is kinda nice...
soon, very soon mining for small miners like us, will be over, unless we get free electricity
Interesting...
I hope we see, some updates about bitfury in january.
Otherwise its very difficult to calculate our ROI(
I hope we see, some updates about bitfury in january.
Otherwise its very difficult to calculate our ROI(
Need at least 3, since Avalon doesn't seem interested in actually competing.
BW.com/Lketc probably January sometime.
BW.com/Lketc probably January sometime.
For sure there have to be at least 2 players in the retail market for home miners
in my opinion, bitfury will chip in 16 nm, but as power hash will avalon6 like, overpriced, and less efficiency,.
fuck I say there is a company that knows how to create a machine with power 16nm 25 th / s, that consumption 1800 W? 2000W max? at an affordable price you home?
spondoolies created a miner too esorbidante, I think none of us can buy it, it costs a lot, and consumes much energy.
It remains only bitmain that has the market for the end user.
fuck I say there is a company that knows how to create a machine with power 16nm 25 th / s, that consumption 1800 W? 2000W max? at an affordable price you home?
spondoolies created a miner too esorbidante, I think none of us can buy it, it costs a lot, and consumes much energy.
It remains only bitmain that has the market for the end user.
Well we just had 202 block day = fucking nuts
Yeah. When are we expecting LK/BW machines to roll out? How many thousand S7 have been made? How many Avalon6 are sitting on their shelves churning away? And whatever happened to KFC's Solar chip? And 21e6 is probably still doing things behind their curtain. And who else might be, that we haven't heard of yet?
I think that it's more likely a new batch of chinese iron put online
Hashrate is skyrocketing -- 48 blocks were found within the last 4 hours... an event that is supposed to happen once every 50 years by chance. Blocks being found across many pools. My guess is these Bitfury ASICs are coming online and George is pointing them to many pools.
I do not know about MMQ but for sure the chip price will be more expencive than full miners with this chip.
This is what it was with A2 chip sales.
Soecialy for low to medium batches
This is what it was with A2 chip sales.
Soecialy for low to medium batches
They haven't put out a lot of hard info on the A3 so far - but they aren't bothering to look for investors for it, and they HAVE said they plan to release the A3 and A4 at the same time.
I also suspect the A3 is going to be a lot better than 0.2w/GH - based on the efficiency gains of the A4 vs. the A2 and the claimed efficiency of the already-existing full-custom 14/16nm designs, I'm betting on under 0.1 and more likely 0.06 ballpark.
They probably don't figure there's any significant risk on the A3 of not being able to sell enough of them to make a profit, given how much bigger the SHA256 market is.
They announced tape-out on the A3 in the SAME "leak" they mentioned it for the A4 back around July or so.
Innosilicon has been a miner manufacturer before - they built the A2 in 3 versions as a miner, the 88MH and 110MH units and that 60ish MH Farmboy thing.
I'd suspect that they'll have a fairly high MOQ on the chips for a while, but will drop it down eventually when they're not competing with themselves as much by selling smaller quantities of chips.
I also suspect the A3 is going to be a lot better than 0.2w/GH - based on the efficiency gains of the A4 vs. the A2 and the claimed efficiency of the already-existing full-custom 14/16nm designs, I'm betting on under 0.1 and more likely 0.06 ballpark.
They probably don't figure there's any significant risk on the A3 of not being able to sell enough of them to make a profit, given how much bigger the SHA256 market is.
They announced tape-out on the A3 in the SAME "leak" they mentioned it for the A4 back around July or so.
Innosilicon has been a miner manufacturer before - they built the A2 in 3 versions as a miner, the 88MH and 110MH units and that 60ish MH Farmboy thing.
I'd suspect that they'll have a fairly high MOQ on the chips for a while, but will drop it down eventually when they're not competing with themselves as much by selling smaller quantities of chips.
Hm. Are there any pinouts or protocol specs on either of their chips? It would be a hoot to put them on old jalapeno boards....
I don't think Inno is really a miner manufacturer or really wants to be. They're actually what the Avalon team originally set out to be - chip designers who design a chip, send it out and immediately get working on the next one. Its possible you'll still be able to attain chips from one of their OEMs.
They started out that way, but I think after so many failures on manufacturers' behalves with the A1, they want to be a little more involved with the end-product this time around. They seemed receptive to the idea anyways.
They taped out the scrypt A4 chip. Nothing on the SHA A3. They are also still looking for investors to buy the masks for the A4, so it will be a while before anything comes out...and definitely nothing on the horizon for SHA chips.
google "innnosilicon" and either "A3" or "A4"
Quite a few links that will find you, though a lot are reporting of the same few press releases.
Quite a few links that will find you, though a lot are reporting of the same few press releases.
thanks but i know about the scrypt chip
there is nothing about the sha256 chip other than a casual mention of 0.2W which is not that good (similar to s7 at the wall 0.25W)
anyway, offtopic, sorry
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