Topic: Bitstarz Removes 3.45 Btc Balance According to Breaking Bonus Terms - page 9. (Read 11028 times)

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The reason they do not enforce it in the software is because it will give you a chance to win, and no avenue for bitstarz to steal your winnings.

It goes against their interests to be up front about their rules.

The creepy part of the Bitstarz scam is they see nothing wrong with taking someones winnings. That is like the biggest cardinal rule of running a casino when you WIN that is your money. The ONLY way a casino is entitled to steal the winnings out of your hand is it's done through stealing or hacking.

That's it.

The fact they find reasons to take winnings straight out of players accounts, is an enormous betrayal of trust and every intelligent person who finds this thread will never deal there again.

It happened to me last month, it happened to him and many others ITT. Bitstarz are well aware of what they are doing, and the fact that they don't write it in the software, it shows they are making a lot of money off this scam as well as that they get sick pleasure out of it.

Well hopefully people read bitstarz replies here and know that is exactly who they are dealing with.

The thing is that they flag withdrawals if its a certain % above your deposit.

Then they comb every single bet you make, trying to find ways to see if you broke rules.

They also attempt to hold your withdrawal for a long time, hoping you get tempted to keep betting. One of my withdrawals was held for 6 hours!

Now seeing it happen to many others users ITT has set me off to expose the psychopaths that run the bitstarz scam.

It is good to see an honest casino.
I am not saying this to get BTC as I dont want any, but the same thing happened to me as OP, with 5 bitcoins.
I want to spread the word here.
What Bitstarz does is flag your withdrawal and just take it straight out of your account balance.
Basically they have many hidden rules, so everyone who plays is breaking one rule or another.
They enforce it only if you win. They block your withdrawal and send you an email saying 'sorry but you did XYZ, we took your winnings, good luck!"
Bitstarz is a scam 

This is one awesome move!

Lately I'm totally disappointed from bitcoin world.

Betcoin.TM scammed me for ~8BTC, few users fucked me on auctions and every second person is running a casino site now. Without any proof of solvency, without any idea how to manage it. And most of the sites have terrible support in best.

But this move from BetKing reruns the hope.

Because I believe the future in gambling is Bitcoin. Without limitations, without bullshits. But lately in my trust list are only BetKing, PrimeDice, JustDice and 2-3 bookies.

Fiat bookies are lightly fast limiting winning players, requiring 1000 of documents, Skrill and Neteller /they now are having one owner/ have killing fees + exchange fees and so on. Withdraws are taking days.

Wish you a bright future in Bitcoin World!

I've been in crypto world for 3 years now.


and i can say the only 2 people i trust in crypto gambling are Dean from betking and dooglus fom just dice


dooglus i could live without, but dean is solid


j/k

I was reading this thread with while eating popcorn and drinking soda but this post made me spit it all.
This is by far the most awesome promotional/kind/unexpected move I've seen in casino business so far.
Congratulations to worthyou and hats down to BetKing.io for capitalizing on this whole misunderstanding.

Bonuses from Welcome Package are automatically added to users account (users do not have to confirm that he agree with T&C for the particular bonus) in worthofyou case BitStarz added bonus to his account

I made account today and was placing 0.03 bets using bonus funds and lost, can I contact you to issue refund?

Then why do you even make it possible to bet that big with the bonus? I would honestly do the same as this guy without even realising it was wrong.
This is the first time I've heard of such a rule and I've played at quite a few online casino's

Is the bonus automatically applied?  Yes or No?

For the most part I agree with this but I wouldn't call it a straight up scam. But what I do agree is it's a bit weird to what extent they are trying to defend themselves. Correct me if I am wrong but earlier was mentioned the bonus bet limit only appears after claiming such a bonus. Wouldn't this be kind of an unethical way to just fool players who thought they are already up to date with the terms.

First of all you are keep going your unethical behaviour. You are still telling lies to community. Same lies. While bitcointalk community justifed me, gave red trust to you, everone claims that you are a scam casino, you are still trying to defend yourselves. What a scheme. You are still trying to defend your scammy behaviour.

No need to talk about askgamblers. Because they fully funded by you with your advertisements. It is really bullshit to expect sth from askgamblers.

In casinomeister, many community members had also justifed me. According to their terms about PAB, it may be understand to why they are not interested in with my complaint. If you are brave enough, please share vinylweatherman 's posts about your unethical business.

At the moment, everyone knows you are a scam casino. You can not do any business on bitcointalk anymore. You removed my balance without any reason. I never agreed on breaking rules. While you stated "advantage play" rule and i m fully right according to that terms.

You scammed me. You took red trust on here. Eveything is clear. So please just stop to defend yourselves. You are not a trustworthy and safe place to gambling. We have great sites like betking.io, we "bitcointalk community" do not need you.

I'd highly warn users to avoid bitstarz in all conditions. Do not play on bitstarz.

Hi all,

I think our reputation on AskGamblers speak for itself. As someone stated earlier we've got a
9.13 out of 10 (based on 64 unique reviews) and are ranked #4 out of 1085 casinos.

Also, as mentioned earlier unfortunately this player broke the terms that he agreed to, and
unfortunately had to suffer the consequences for it. This has also been mentioned in Casinomeister
and AskGamblers where their admins and senior members are taking our side in this, which
is a clear no-brainer considering the rules were clearly stated and were breached.

I know it sucks to lose the money, but you've essentially broken terms that you agreed to, and
which is one of the most common terms out there. Again, it's not like we felt like removing some
money from your account and just did it, you broke the rules you agreed to. Therefore I'm not
entirely sure what the rant here is all about.

As also mentioned earlier, we confiscated the money, informed about the breaching of rules
and gave you another shot. The first bet you did was again over the limit, so I'm not sure what
to think about your playing. This time you were clearly aware about the term and you broke it again.

In conclusion, I'll let the reviews of the casino on AskGamblers speak for itself, as long as you stick
to the rules while playing at BitStarz, you're welcome to play without any issues. If you are unclear
about the rules, ask us and if you do not agree with the terms, we wish you the best of luck in another
casino.

Regards,

Mike


EDIT:

http://www.casinomeister.com/forums/showthread.php?t=73235&page=4
http://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/5958-bitstarz-removes-345-btc-balance-according-to-breaking-bonus-terms/

Wow that's great move by Betking.io. Honestly I didn't paly at their site before but after this incident it's clear that I'll make some bets, I just learned they have sport bets too. That's great marketing move for them. Bitstarz lost all their credits though. I found this incident similar to Bitcoinlivebets.com. They refused to pay bonus prizes and then they became scam. That's a big warning for Bitstarz users.

It is interesting to see that, on one hand, Dean is willing giving away 3.45 btc just because he don't want to see a player (not even playing on his site) getting screwed. On the other hand, Bitstars has created ambiguous rules and chosen to not process the withdrawal at the expense of its reputation.
Kudos to you, Dean.

This act is for news! Be ashamed BitStarz.
I received few bonuses BetKing in the past and they were with no strings attached, received  bonus(185mBTC) from BitCasino.io for guessing 3 numbers right and had to wager it 40x to request cashout
I will never play at Bitstarz or any other SoftSwiss casino from now.

Happy for you. Spend the coins well

Here is tx: https://blockchain.info/tr/tx/955c03079088cc1de82395e4143bc3fcc8061f9be21463b08e69e48b3268af7c

It's unbelieveble. What can i say anymore  

I am still can't believe my eyes about what is happening.

I've played many times before betking.io. Never faced with any problem. Withdrawals are instant. However i couldn't even predict it to betking.io will cover my stolen funds.

I deeply respect to betking.io . They acted with compassion while bitstarz have not done anything else to solve this issue. While bitstarz just blaming me.

Betking shows that they are trusted and safe company. They are blancing over other casinos faults. This business sensibility and ethical values are really that we need on bitcoin ecosystem. While others do not have.

In conclusion, i really want to thank you betking.io for covering my balance. I'd also like to thank to bitcointalk community. While askgambler (which is totally funded by bitstarz advertisements) did not interested with my complaint. Casinomeister is other place i opened a topic to discuss for, while many players justifed me, their administration did not do anything for my issue.

Thank you.

What I can guarantee is that you will get them


Edit: you already did xD

Hi,

I just sent you 3.45 Bitcoin to the address you provided.

Good luck

Hello

I really can't believe you are willing to send my stolen funds. OMG

Here is my btc address

1Pb4m9dPYhyegUruhwKysw5nuZarULGmCP

Let's see what happens