[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 21.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 22, 2021, 06:47:05 PM

As much as I plan to think it's scripted, looks like the emotions are genuine and true.

The punch from Canelo is a hard landing. Caleb Plant receives a cut on his below right eye. It wasn't well defended even it's a predictable move by Canelo. There will be lots of the same punches that Plant will expect to receive in the fight. Not just a cut on his right eye but maybe multiple damages. He better be aware.

Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on September 22, 2021, 08:09:45 PM

^ Mate just looks at the stats. Canelo He's just going to run over Plant. I wonder why plant did all those trash-talking, if plant actually should have done anything I think he should have practiced more and make plans about how to defeat his opponent in the ring rather than defeating his opponent in the press conference. And after the press conference, I honestly think that the man has no fear for his life, lol Tongue

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It is a well planned strategy employed by some of the boxers to divert the attention of their higher ranked opponent. However in this case, I am not sure whether it will work or not. Because Canelo seems to have ignored the comments made by Caleb. Ideally that is what the stronger opponents should do. But sometimes they lose their focus and get provoked by the statements. And this gives an opportunity for underdogs such as Caleb. I don't support any of this, but Caleb's behavior makes perfect sense for me.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 09:52:32 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on September 22, 2021, 09:33:18 AM

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.
With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

I also thought that way, while maybe Caleb was doubtful about can winning the fight in the ring, but he thought he had at least can won the battle with his rubbish words Grin

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But even so this fight will be able to prove who deserves to be the best boxer and of course a true champion of world super middleweight boxing, to be honest in that fight I will bet on Canelo victory, in addition to the revenge factor for caleb insults, of course Canelo is a boxer who quite dangerous and has managed to hold three super middle division world titles, namely WBC, WBA Super and WBO with a record 56 wins (38 KO), 1 loss and 2 draws.

^ Mate just looks at the stats. Canelo He's just going to run over Plant. I wonder why plant did all those trash-talking, if plant actually should have done anything I think he should have practiced more and make plans about how to defeat his opponent in the ring rather than defeating his opponent in the press conference. And after the press conference, I honestly think that the man has no fear for his life, lol Tongue

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 22, 2021, 06:26:08 PM

Oh well, maybe that's already on the script and Canelo expects that so he can react right away and avoid it to land in his face, while those punches that he throws to Plant are not a close fist, so not a hard landing too. Cheesy

As much as I plan to think it's scripted, looks like the emotions are genuine and true.

The punch from Canelo is a hard landing. Caleb Plant receives a cut on his below right eye. It wasn't well defended even it's a predictable move by Canelo. There will be lots of the same punches that Plant will expect to receive in the fight. Not just a cut on his right eye but maybe multiple damages. He better be aware.

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Quote from: aioc on September 22, 2021, 05:39:17 PM

Quote from: harizen on September 22, 2021, 04:48:29 PM

Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

If that's true they have six weeks for a build-up but definitely gates and pay per view sales will shoot up because of the bloodbath between the two, but every Canelo fight is a blockbuster, the boxing world knows he can deliver, hopefully, we can see a fight like Triple G and Canelo on this fight I still consider that the best Canelo fight hopefully this fight will become a candidate for fight of the year, there's so much hype on the fight.

From that press-con, for sure sales will be hyping as these two fighters already give some glimpse on what the possible scenes when they met inside the ring. I was curious though if that for promotional, since the punch is for real. I wonder if that Plant punch landed in the very face of Canelo without any clubs. Roll Eyes

Oh well, maybe that's already on the script and Canelo expects that so he can react right away and avoid it to land in his face, while those punches that he throws to Plant are not a close fist, so not a hard landing too. Cheesy

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Quote from: aioc on September 22, 2021, 05:39:17 PM

Quote from: harizen on September 22, 2021, 04:48:29 PM

Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

If that's true they have six weeks for a build-up but definitely gates and pay per view sales will shoot up because of the bloodbath between the two, but every Canelo fight is a blockbuster, the boxing world knows he can deliver, hopefully, we can see a fight like Triple G and Canelo on this fight I still consider that the best Canelo fight hopefully this fight will become a candidate for fight of the year, there's so much hype on the fight.

We are not sure if it will reach the same level as GGG and Canelo's fight.

Since the fight was organized and officially announce, Caleb Plant is a heavy underdog and the majority is not considering him as in the same league as Canelo. On that face-off during their presscon, Caleb Plant starts the punch but didn't able to dodge Canelo's counterattack. What's more during the actual fight.

But regardless, I'm expecting that Plant will do something to show the world that he can equally fight with Canelo. He should live with his trashtalks.

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Quote from: harizen on September 22, 2021, 04:48:29 PM

Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

If that's true they have six weeks for a build-up but definitely gates and pay per view sales will shoot up because of the bloodbath between the two, but every Canelo fight is a blockbuster, the boxing world knows he can deliver, hopefully, we can see a fight like Triple G and Canelo on this fight I still consider that the best Canelo fight hopefully this fight will become a candidate for fight of the year, there's so much hype on the fight.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 09:07:13 AM

it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

That certain limit is subjective and boxers can't control their mouth in most cases especially if they are in ravage mode. The said argument between Canelo and Caleb Plant is fortunately not that "mic-ed" so the public or viewers, didn't really know the exact statement that triggered Canelo. Anyhow, it's something below the belt as a reason and as far as reports are concerned, it's about family. After the incident and at the press conference, Caleb didn't stop throwing things to Canelo "like he has a backup on his claims" and Canelo got triggered again saying his final statement, "See you on November 6th".

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 22, 2021, 05:35:10 AM

With what had happened during the press conference, I think tickets would be selling like hotcakes.

Yes, it creates a big impact and might attract more viewers. Actually, there are even people that don't know there's an upcoming fight involving Canelo and they just learned it because of the news lol.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 22, 2021, 09:33:18 AM

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 09:07:13 AM

it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

Caleb is out of his mind he deserves that cut, he stoops at a very low level what you give is what you get, I am not surprised if he gets backlash from the boxing community, if he is confident that he can beat Canelo then wait for the right time, he will fail to get in the mind of Canelo because Canelo is a warrior and he's been to a lot of great fights, he is not even half of those fights.

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

I also thought that way, while maybe Caleb was doubtful about can winning the fight in the ring, but he thought he had at least can won the battle with his rubbish words Grin

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But even so this fight will be able to prove who deserves to be the best boxer and of course a true champion of world super middleweight boxing, to be honest in that fight I will bet on Canelo victory, in addition to the revenge factor for caleb insults, of course Canelo is a boxer who quite dangerous and has managed to hold three super middle division world titles, namely WBC, WBA Super and WBO with a record 56 wins (38 KO), 1 loss and 2 draws.

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Quote from: plr on September 22, 2021, 09:27:07 AM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 09:07:13 AM

it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

Caleb is out of his mind he deserves that cut, he stoops at a very low level what you give is what you get, I am not surprised if he gets backlash from the boxing community, if he is confident that he can beat Canelo then wait for the right time, he will fail to get in the mind of Canelo because Canelo is a warrior and he's been to a lot of great fights, he is not even half of those fights.

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 09:07:13 AM

it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

Caleb is out of his mind he deserves that cut, he stoops at a very low level what you give is what you get, I am not surprised if he gets backlash from the boxing community, if he is confident that he can beat Canelo then wait for the right time, he will fail to get in the mind of Canelo because Canelo is a warrior and he's been to a lot of great fights, he is not even half of those fights.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 22, 2021, 05:35:10 AM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 02:48:07 AM

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

Canelo has not controlled his emotions that time and it might worked against him during the fight, I hope not.

Outside the ring, you can say anything you wanted to say and no rules prohibiting you to do that so i guess it would be just on fight night that Canelo would avenge everything that Caleb has said.

With what had happened during the press conference, I think tickets would be selling like hotcakes.

it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 22, 2021, 06:54:02 AM

Quote from: smyslov on September 22, 2021, 06:07:03 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 22, 2021, 05:45:35 AM

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

That push of Canelo says that he is really strong, though Caleb Plant looks taller but Canelo's strength is pretty evident.
I think this will make more fans excited, and you are right, that would result in higher ticket sales.
They'll see in the ring and I predict a KO.

It just means that you can't bully Alvarez he gets the push and the two punch that cut Caleb's skin below the eye, Caleb is crossing the line here, you can get persona on the guy but leave the family, Caleb will taste a big beating comes the fight night, he is also accusing Alvarez of drug abuse, he should concentrate on the fight, he has a big problem ahead and this is how to deal Alvarez's speed and power.

with this dispute, of course, the fight will heat up later, I think the psywar launched by the two boxers is one strategy to increase the interest of boxing fans to watch the fight later. I watched a video of the conference on YouTube and saw that Canelo reacted very quickly to avoid Caleb Plant's left hook and then hit Caleb Plant back with a very good combination, I think the fight will be well worth the wait, because the conference the heat will heat up the fight even more Grin

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Indeed, this is a great match, fans love to see how Canelo will punish Plant in the ring.

Plant has to be prepared in the fight, it's his best chance to be popular by beating the almost unbeatable Canelo Alvarez.
By the way, I'm wondering why the odds is still not up until now knowing this fight is a popular fight.

odds now. https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-plant-odds

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Favorite Odds Underdog Odds Weight Class
Canelo Alvarez -1,000 Caleb Plant +550 Super Middleweight

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Quote from: smyslov on September 22, 2021, 06:07:03 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 22, 2021, 05:45:35 AM

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

That push of Canelo says that he is really strong, though Caleb Plant looks taller but Canelo's strength is pretty evident.
I think this will make more fans excited, and you are right, that would result in higher ticket sales.
They'll see in the ring and I predict a KO.

It just means that you can't bully Alvarez he gets the push and the two punch that cut Caleb's skin below the eye, Caleb is crossing the line here, you can get persona on the guy but leave the family, Caleb will taste a big beating comes the fight night, he is also accusing Alvarez of drug abuse, he should concentrate on the fight, he has a big problem ahead and this is how to deal Alvarez's speed and power.

with this dispute, of course, the fight will heat up later, I think the psywar launched by the two boxers is one strategy to increase the interest of boxing fans to watch the fight later. I watched a video of the conference on YouTube and saw that Canelo reacted very quickly to avoid Caleb Plant's left hook and then hit Caleb Plant back with a very good combination, I think the fight will be well worth the wait, because the conference the heat will heat up the fight even more Grin

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 02:48:07 AM

Quote from: TravelMug on September 22, 2021, 01:18:40 AM

Weird though to see Canelo's losing his cool on a press con, so I'm not sure if this was stage or not, but as you can see when he throw that left hook, it was not on a close fist but rather like a chop, a karate chop. But it took a damage on Caleb's face already, thus it will create an even greater hype for this upcoming fight. But the odds are not going to change, Canelo will still be the favourite to win this fight.

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

We don't know what's being said at their face off. But for sure Canelo has been taking mental notes of Caleb's attack on twitter. Or maybe he really did insult Canelo's mother that's why he lost his focus and push Caleb. As far as trash talking goes though, I don't think that they should forbid it, that's part of the game, it's either you take it on stride and used it as motivation, or lost your concentration, in that case that is already a psyche war victory by your opponents. And for sure Canelo will repay the insult with a knock out and take Caleb's 0.

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Quote from: Jackl87 on September 22, 2021, 06:18:55 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 22, 2021, 05:45:35 AM

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

Stuff like that definitely helps to promote the fight and this time i even believe that it was not completely staged unlike all the other times when it happened before fights of Mayweather or Mcgregor. Canelo is just an incredibily strong guy and when those two fighters are standing next to each other the difference between them is extremely obvious. Plant is taller and leaner and has a pretty big reach advantage of 4 inches, but i think that Alvarez is used to that already and it won't really bother him or be a big disadvantage for him, as he is a rather small guy but with an extremely blocky physique and also very fast. Alvarez is without a doubt the big favorite in this fight.

Canelo's built in this face off is scary, he is so thick, just look at his neck when they do the sides. Yeah, Canelo has used to fighting guys which is much taller than him, but the physical advantage is not there. So with this scuffle, the hype is building more and it seems that this is going to be very personal as far as Canelo goes. He doesn't gave any on the public as far as Caleb's plan bad mouthing him and his team. But in the face off, he went crazy and than pull back and then left hook, we are going to see that in the fight, for sure.

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Quote from: smyslov on September 22, 2021, 06:07:03 AM

Quote from: Questat on September 22, 2021, 05:45:35 AM

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

That push of Canelo says that he is really strong, though Caleb Plant looks taller but Canelo's strength is pretty evident.
I think this will make more fans excited, and you are right, that would result in higher ticket sales.
They'll see in the ring and I predict a KO.

It just means that you can't bully Alvarez he gets the push and the two punch that cut Caleb's skin below the eye, Caleb is crossing the line here, you can get persona on the guy but leave the family, Caleb will taste a big beating comes the fight night, he is also accusing Alvarez of drug abuse, he should concentrate on the fight, he has a big problem ahead and this is how to deal Alvarez's speed and power.

This heated up Canelo and I never know that Canelo is this sensitive. But anyway, thanks that Plant was not seriously injured, at least we can expect that the fight will push through next month and hopefully Plant will not just talk much, he should train more as well.

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Quote from: Questat on September 22, 2021, 05:45:35 AM

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

Stuff like that definitely helps to promote the fight and this time i even believe that it was not completely staged unlike all the other times when it happened before fights of Mayweather or Mcgregor. Canelo is just an incredibily strong guy and when those two fighters are standing next to each other the difference between them is extremely obvious. Plant is taller and leaner and has a pretty big reach advantage of 4 inches, but i think that Alvarez is used to that already and it won't really bother him or be a big disadvantage for him, as he is a rather small guy but with an extremely blocky physique and also very fast. Alvarez is without a doubt the big favorite in this fight.

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Quote from: Questat on September 22, 2021, 05:45:35 AM

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

That push of Canelo says that he is really strong, though Caleb Plant looks taller but Canelo's strength is pretty evident.
I think this will make more fans excited, and you are right, that would result in higher ticket sales.
They'll see in the ring and I predict a KO.

It just means that you can't bully Alvarez he gets the push and the two punch that cut Caleb's skin below the eye, Caleb is crossing the line here, you can get persona on the guy but leave the family, Caleb will taste a big beating comes the fight night, he is also accusing Alvarez of drug abuse, he should concentrate on the fight, he has a big problem ahead and this is how to deal Alvarez's speed and power.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 22, 2021, 05:35:10 AM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 02:48:07 AM

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

Canelo has not controlled his emotions that time and it might worked against him during the fight, I hope not.

Outside the ring, you can say anything you wanted to say and no rules prohibiting you to do that so i guess it would be just on fight night that Canelo would avenge everything that Caleb has said.

With what had happened during the press conference, I think tickets would be selling like hotcakes.

Thanks for the update, I just have to see it in youtube, and see this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfgY4-59ZxQ

That push of Canelo says that he is really strong, though Caleb Plant looks taller but Canelo's strength is pretty evident.
I think this will make more fans excited, and you are right, that would result in higher ticket sales.
They'll see in the ring and I predict a KO.

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