[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 20.

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it's true what you say if there is no prohibition about a boxer doing a verbal war to bring down his opponent mentality before fighting, but in my opinion there must be certain limits in this regard, I think everyone here would agree that psywar should not attack religion, family as well as the color of a person skin and while many other sports have begun to uphold the value of sportsmanship and reject racism, of course boxing athletes can also do it in my opinion, I think a good psywar is one that attacks the individual player without having to bring racism and ridicule to their families.

Caleb is out of his mind he deserves that cut, he stoops at a very low level what you give is what you get, I am not surprised if he gets backlash from the boxing community, if he is confident that he can beat Canelo then wait for the right time, he will fail to get in the mind of Canelo because Canelo is a warrior and he's been to a lot of great fights, he is not even half of those fights.

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

It is such a shame that fighters think they need to rely on trash talking to make an impression on people, if they used all that time to train harder and to become even better fighters we will remember who they are just by the way they fight above the ring, if Caleb is destroyed above the ring we will remember him but for all the wrong reasons, if he instead gives a good fight then we will remember him fondly even if he lost and never said a word before the match, but it seems this simple thought process escapes them.

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Everyone in social media is now talking about the face off event and how crisp and sharp Canelo Alvarez looked and that push was fun to watch as Caleb Plant did not expect that coming and then the shots that were landed looked good and if Canelo Alvarez can land easily against Caleb Plant then he will be able to hit him in the fight as well without much effort and that is what the talk is all about in social media and it has hyped up the event Grin

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This is something that we don't like to see we don't want punches flying in the face-off, it's meant to hype the event but never for punches to fly
the worst thing that can happen is a postponement of the highly anticipated fight, I wonder what would happen if Canelo hit Plant's face and had a deep cut, we'll have two more months of postponement, and this is a big blow to promoters.

For the record though, it was Caleb that was aggressive in the face off, he threw the first punch, and Canelo just reacted, and he punch with open fist. So if there's someone to blame here it will be Caleb. In any case, judging by the reaction of boxing posters here, it created more hype, majority are waiting for the betting line to open.

As for the cut, those are fighters, they are used to getting gashes in the face, even at sparring they will get than kind of facial injury. So that's nothing new and I doubt that there will be any postponement because of that gash in Caleb's face.

Caleb was disrespectful, even before they met, he was already trash-talking Canelo and accused of using enhancement drugs, so he deserves and gets what he is looking for. The fight night will be more exciting IMO, what they did is more than enough to hype this fight even more.

He was and that is his approach towards this fight, he himself knows that strong Canelo is and his best strategy is to destroy the concentration of Canelo so he can impose his will. Well, what we saw was really something, Canelo loss his patience and hurt Caleb Plant, but of course Plant is okay, a little cut but with big effect to hype the fight, win-win for him.

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The line will be open soon, so there's nothing to worry about as we already have an idea of a possible betting line, of course, Canelo will always be a heavy favorite to win this fight, just like in his past fights.

I'm patiently waiting for it as Im not using a fiat sportsbook, so we are the last priority.

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Everyone in social media is now talking about the face off event and how crisp and sharp Canelo Alvarez looked and that push was fun to watch as Caleb Plant did not expect that coming and then the shots that were landed looked good and if Canelo Alvarez can land easily against Caleb Plant then he will be able to hit him in the fight as well without much effort and that is what the talk is all about in social media and it has hyped up the event Grin

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This is something that we don't like to see we don't want punches flying in the face-off, it's meant to hype the event but never for punches to fly
the worst thing that can happen is a postponement of the highly anticipated fight, I wonder what would happen if Canelo hit Plant's face and had a deep cut, we'll have two more months of postponement, and this is a big blow to promoters.

For the record though, it was Caleb that was aggressive in the face off, he threw the first punch, and Canelo just reacted, and he punch with open fist. So if there's someone to blame here it will be Caleb. In any case, judging by the reaction of boxing posters here, it created more hype, majority are waiting for the betting line to open.

As for the cut, those are fighters, they are used to getting gashes in the face, even at sparring they will get than kind of facial injury. So that's nothing new and I doubt that there will be any postponement because of that gash in Caleb's face.

Caleb was disrespectful, even before they met, he was already trash-talking Canelo and accused of using enhancement drugs, so he deserves and gets what he is looking for. The fight night will be more exciting IMO, what they did is more than enough to hype this fight even more.

The line will be open soon, so there's nothing to worry about as we already have an idea of a possible betting line, of course, Canelo will always be a heavy favorite to win this fight, just like in his past fights.

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Everyone in social media is now talking about the face off event and how crisp and sharp Canelo Alvarez looked and that push was fun to watch as Caleb Plant did not expect that coming and then the shots that were landed looked good and if Canelo Alvarez can land easily against Caleb Plant then he will be able to hit him in the fight as well without much effort and that is what the talk is all about in social media and it has hyped up the event Grin

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This is something that we don't like to see we don't want punches flying in the face-off, it's meant to hype the event but never for punches to fly
the worst thing that can happen is a postponement of the highly anticipated fight, I wonder what would happen if Canelo hit Plant's face and had a deep cut, we'll have two more months of postponement, and this is a big blow to promoters.

For the record though, it was Caleb that was aggressive in the face off, he threw the first punch, and Canelo just reacted, and he punch with open fist. So if there's someone to blame here it will be Caleb. In any case, judging by the reaction of boxing posters here, it created more hype, majority are waiting for the betting line to open.

As for the cut, those are fighters, they are used to getting gashes in the face, even at sparring they will get than kind of facial injury. So that's nothing new and I doubt that there will be any postponement because of that gash in Caleb's face.

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Weird though to see Canelo's losing his cool on a press con, so I'm not sure if this was stage or not, but as you can see when he throw that left hook, it was not on a close fist but rather like a chop, a karate chop. But it took a damage on Caleb's face already, thus it will create an even greater hype for this upcoming fight. But the odds are not going to change, Canelo will still be the favourite to win this fight.

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

I think you hit the point, nobody likes to mess with the mother, and besides that I think that anyone would react that way, in fact when he clarified it on Twitter for me that attitude was totally understandable. I think it's good that he has taken that small brand, so he learns to respect and especially women.
And starting from what is coming is a great fight, all this adds more emotion, there is what we call in my land as "Pique" and that is a very good additional ingredient, I imagine that after the fight he must apologize for having gotten involved. with her mother.

Caleb says it was just a scratch but the pictures don't really look like a scratch. It's the cause of the sunglass he wore that time seems to have crammed down that resulted in that mark, you can't stage that kind of bruise.

They don't even have to insult each other its bound to happen. Every time two dominant males in one stage will cause a commotion, that is why there has to be someone in between when there is faceoff, it happens all the time in MMA. During that time, they were just them, who organized that faceoff?

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 22, 2021, 02:48:07 AM

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Weird though to see Canelo's losing his cool on a press con, so I'm not sure if this was stage or not, but as you can see when he throw that left hook, it was not on a close fist but rather like a chop, a karate chop. But it took a damage on Caleb's face already, thus it will create an even greater hype for this upcoming fight. But the odds are not going to change, Canelo will still be the favourite to win this fight.

I think it was natural for Canelo to get emotional and throw a punch at Caleb Plant at the press conference, because at that time Caleb Plant had insulted Canelo's mother, I think the boxing committee should now forbid the fighters to say these things Bad things that are racist or insulting, religion and family in the faceoff session, but with this incident it is certain that the fight will be an exciting and bloody fight because of course Canelo will repay the insult with all his abilities in the ring later.

I think you hit the point, nobody likes to mess with the mother, and besides that I think that anyone would react that way, in fact when he clarified it on Twitter for me that attitude was totally understandable. I think it's good that he has taken that small brand, so he learns to respect and especially women.
And starting from what is coming is a great fight, all this adds more emotion, there is what we call in my land as "Pique" and that is a very good additional ingredient, I imagine that after the fight he must apologize for having gotten involved. with her mother.

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Quote from: 7788bitcoin on September 23, 2021, 06:52:12 PM

Everyone in social media is now talking about the face off event and how crisp and sharp Canelo Alvarez looked and that push was fun to watch as Caleb Plant did not expect that coming and then the shots that were landed looked good and if Canelo Alvarez can land easily against Caleb Plant then he will be able to hit him in the fight as well without much effort and that is what the talk is all about in social media and it has hyped up the event Grin

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This is something that we don't like to see we don't want punches flying in the face-off, it's meant to hype the event but never for punches to fly
the worst thing that can happen is a postponement of the highly anticipated fight, I wonder what would happen if Canelo hit Plant's face and had a deep cut, we'll have two more months of postponement, and this is a big blow to promoters.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 22, 2021, 10:40:10 PM

It is a well planned strategy employed by some of the boxers to divert the attention of their higher ranked opponent. However in this case, I am not sure whether it will work or not. Because Canelo seems to have ignored the comments made by Caleb. Ideally that is what the stronger opponents should do. But sometimes they lose their focus and get provoked by the statements. And this gives an opportunity for underdogs such as Caleb. I don't support any of this, but Caleb's behavior makes perfect sense for me.

Trash talking is like a part of the match where you punch your opponent with words instead of your hand. If done correctly, this will give you a huge advantage in-game. And small players get a chance to win the game against the bigger ones. Here Caleb is clearly the underdog and if he can trash talk and divert Canelo's focus that will be a plus point for him. But I agree with you where you said that bigger opponents tend to overlook the trash talking done to him, just what Canelo did. For now, wanna see how much of Caleb's talking can he convert into actual fighting.

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Quote from: bittraffic on September 23, 2021, 05:22:25 PM

The drama made it more appealing to the media, it doesn't even matter whether whose fault that was I just wanna bet. Caleb seems confident but I can't see him winning when Canelo is still a very young man as he is. You can tell how fast the response to hit back after a slap to his face.

Everyone in social media is now talking about the face off event and how crisp and sharp Canelo Alvarez looked and that push was fun to watch as Caleb Plant did not expect that coming and then the shots that were landed looked good and if Canelo Alvarez can land easily against Caleb Plant then he will be able to hit him in the fight as well without much effort and that is what the talk is all about in social media and it has hyped up the event Grin

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No odds yet on betting sites but this is really a good fight.

The drama made it more appealing to the media, it doesn't even matter whether whose fault that was I just wanna bet. Caleb seems confident but I can't see him winning when Canelo is still a very young man as he is. You can tell how fast the response to hit back after a slap to his face.

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Quote from: Questat on September 23, 2021, 12:48:46 AM

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

Yeah right! If someone got that injured after that press-con for sure, a lot of money will be wasted.

I see your point in the business side of this fight, though maybe that's really emotions that flow between these two fighters.

They wanted to show how aggressive they were meeting inside the ring.

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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.

Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.

Me as well, that huge gap between the odds better to take the handicap unless you will place huge amount for Alvarez or you are willing to take the big risk for Plant.

It's all about the level of risk that you are willing to take. This fight already attracts lots of attention after that press-con. Tongue

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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.

Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.

What sports betting sites you are using, I'm searching on the betting odds in crypto betting sites I'm using but I could not see it until now. I love to see the full market too as there's plenty of betting odds I can bet to make that day more entertaining while watching the fight.

A KO handicap, would be good, probably I'll take 1-3 rounds of KO as it surely has big odds, and Canelo is angry and might KO Plant right away.

Most of the time, you can see the full market at least about a week away before the fight. And maybe since these 2 boxers are quite popular, we may see it a lil bit early. Because betting on Canelo at full time is not worth if you are just betting small. Seems that people have high expectations on Canelo but we should not underestimate Caleb here.

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Quote from: Russlenat on September 23, 2021, 04:22:52 PM

Quote from: mu_enrico on September 23, 2021, 10:43:32 AM

Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.

Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.

What sports betting sites you are using, I'm searching on the betting odds in crypto betting sites I'm using but I could not see it until now. I love to see the full market too as there's plenty of betting odds I can bet to make that day more entertaining while watching the fight.

A KO handicap, would be good, probably I'll take 1-3 rounds of KO as it surely has big odds, and Canelo is angry and might KO Plant right away.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on September 23, 2021, 10:43:32 AM

Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.

Would not take that, I'd rather look for the handicap and that means I have to wait until the full market if this fight will be available. With the fire between the two, we will likely see a KO, we just have to predict what round a KO will happen or a range of rounds.

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Oh the drama, the heat from the press conference is still here. It's going to be a nasty fight since Caleb trash talking Canelo's mother. I like how Canelo dodged and slapped Caleb after he pushed Caleb so hard. 2-0 for Canelo. Anyway, 1.09x (Stake's odds) seems like a sure win guys? But the odd isn't tempting tho.

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Winding down.

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Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

It's still six weeks to go, promoters should not let them alone again or do that kind of faceoff again to avoid altercations, this is the most anticipated match of the year, promoters should do everything for a similar incident not to happen again, they can do all the trash talk all they want but they should not let these two fighters do a close face-off again, we are still in the pandemic, they should still encourage social distancing.

They already saw what this two could do, so probably when they face again a day before the actual fight for the weigh-in, the security guards will be carefully monitoring them so they will not do stupid things that could hamper the day of the fight. I know they like to beat each other, but let that happen in the right under the rules of boxing.

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Quote from: Questat on September 23, 2021, 12:48:46 AM

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Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

It's still six weeks to go, promoters should not let them alone again or do that kind of faceoff again to avoid altercations, this is the most anticipated match of the year, promoters should do everything for a similar incident not to happen again, they can do all the trash talk all they want but they should not let these two fighters do a close face-off again, we are still in the pandemic, they should still encourage social distancing.

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Ok from what I read, Caleb proved that he is not a keyboard warrior and tell everything on Canelo's during their face-off, specially the accusations like he is a cheater, and then calling Canelo MF. So Alvarez was feed up with all of Caleb's antic. And he said that this is extra motivation and he takes it personally. So I'm smelling another knock out win for Canelo, doesn't matter which round, he will go out and really hurt Caleb here.

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Quote from: Sanitough on September 22, 2021, 09:33:18 AM

His only chance to beat Canelo is through trash talk, no way he could win against Canelo in an actual fight in the ring, He just wasted his chance, he should give respect to the best boxer in his division and just show his best to compete in the actual fight, who knows he could upset Canelo.

With what he showed, it's like the opposite of what he can do in the ring, so now, I already think that he does not stand a chance against Canelo.
My prediction would be, Canelo win by KO in the early rounds.

Plant just make the odds favor on him less compare to Canelo because of what happened and for sure this is the only way Plant think how to beat Canelo through trash talked. Being involved in a sport there's no excuse of pushing your opponent during face-off and punching him causing a cut over on the right eye of your opponent just because you only knew that your opponent was took a performance enhancing drug without a proof and opened this topic during your face off. However, let's just wait till the game is on and hopefully by November 6th the game would be push through and see who's the best fighter between them.

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Quote from: fortunecrypto on September 22, 2021, 10:47:10 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on September 22, 2021, 06:47:05 PM

As much as I plan to think it's scripted, looks like the emotions are genuine and true.

The punch from Canelo is a hard landing. Caleb Plant receives a cut on his below right eye. It wasn't well defended even it's a predictable move by Canelo. There will be lots of the same punches that Plant will expect to receive in the fight. Not just a cut on his right eye but maybe multiple damages. He better be aware.

Promoters will not take a risk of altercations to attract more sales and hype the fight, it's already hyped with so much news coming up in the last four months it's real and glad that the punch is not that solid to badly hurt Plant, there's already news in UFC where a fight did not push through because the other guy was hurt because of the push he received from his opponent.
Things like this should be avoided if they want to fight they should do it in the ring not in a press conference.

They may not but it would affect their investment if they will not take care of their fighters. You know, it's the promoter who spent to make this fight happen or say the preparation of the fight, so if someone gets injured and the fight is cancelled, it will be a big loss of money on their side.

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