[Boxing] Canelo Alvarez vs Caleb Plant - page 25.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 09, 2021, 06:00:13 PM

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

Being elevated as the undisputed champion is a big target for Canelo. That's perhaps the reason why he is focusing on the fight so much, and ignoring the thrash talk by Caleb Plant. Actually it is nice to see him training so hard, not taking the opponent casually (even with the odds so heavily stacked up in his favor). And this makes him different when compared to many of the other boxing legends. And for me, I was initially planning to make a bet in favor of Plant. However, with each passing day his chances of an upset win seems to be nearing zero.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 09, 2021, 06:00:13 PM

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

That's another motivation for Alvarez, winning everything under this division a very well recognition and a dream of every fighter to have this same record.

We have our own bets and we do wish to see great actions against these two fighters. Just like how I voice out my sentiment, the more action we see, the more we fan will love both fighters, whoever wins the fight, both will have a deserving kudos to everyone if they will
fulfil what we wanted to see from them in this match.

Canelo will never fail us, as long as Caleb Plant is aggressive too, I think there's no reason we will not enjoy this fight. Canelo is one the greatest fighter now, probably a hall of Famer too in the future, and he is still young so we will continue to see more big fights of his.

Caleb Plant tries to play some mind games against Canelo, but Canelo is silent because he does his talking in the ring, and the more Caleb Plant talks, the more Canelo will be motivated in beating him, I think that's fair enough.

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Quote from: cryptomaniac_xxx on September 09, 2021, 06:00:13 PM

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

That's another motivation for Alvarez, winning everything under this division a very well recognition and a dream of every fighter to have this same record.

We have our own bets and we do wish to see great actions against these two fighters. Just like how I voice out my sentiment, the more action we see, the more we fan will love both fighters, whoever wins the fight, both will have a deserving kudos to everyone if they will
fulfil what we wanted to see from them in this match.

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IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

IMO, both of them have something to lose as they are holding their own respective championship belts, only it is Canelo who is more popular than Plant and he holds three belts but if we analyze this fight it is Canelo who is hungrier because if he wins this one, this would be his personal record of unifying all the prestigious belts in his division, a history made for him. That is why I could say that he will be preparing for this fight as if he is the challenger for that prestige.

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

Inoue will no longer be undefeated if he will lose against Casimero in their fight, that's why this fight is very important to him so he can continue his journey, while Casimero is also looking to shock the world by beating the monster that everyone is struggling to beat, so it's a must watch fight, it was already announce by one party only, hopefully it will be confirm by a formal announcement with a proof of contract signing.

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IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

IMO, both of them have something to lose as they are holding their own respective championship belts, only it is Canelo who is more popular than Plant and he holds three belts but if we analyze this fight it is Canelo who is hungrier because if he wins this one, this would be his personal record of unifying all the prestigious belts in his division, a history made for him. That is why I could say that he will be preparing for this fight as if he is the challenger for that prestige.

Right, I can't remember who is the last man to reunify all the belts in the super middleweight division. But if Canelo win, then he will be in the records books as well for getting all the belts, another big accomplishment for him.

So yes, both are hungry, both are motivated to win. And then we have our own bets to put. But what's important is that they give us a good fight because this is highly anticipated by fight fans.

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Quote from: aioc on September 09, 2021, 01:18:33 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 08, 2021, 10:05:26 PM

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

Of course its normal to have fear but its also a good thing if you ignore those negative thoughts and focus on your target and goal. Canelo is very professional handling this one, we cannot blame him for that let’s just see the result of his work and let’s see if Plant will be better than his trash talking.

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Quote from: aioc on September 09, 2021, 01:18:33 AM

Quote from: Sithara007 on September 08, 2021, 10:05:26 PM

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

IMO, both of them have something to lose as they are holding their own respective championship belts, only it is Canelo who is more popular than Plant and he holds three belts but if we analyze this fight it is Canelo who is hungrier because if he wins this one, this would be his personal record of unifying all the prestigious belts in his division, a history made for him. That is why I could say that he will be preparing for this fight as if he is the challenger for that prestige.

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I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking, obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

You already said that Canelo is a legend and being a legend takes time and matches and performance.
He has many matches already and most of the fighters that he fought for sure trashtalked him. We saw it against Saunders. Saunders trashtalks, Canelo just shut his mouth or maybe he is saying some words but he isn't spitting words as much as his opponent.

I can't wait for this match to happen. We know already that trashtalks makes hype and that is what Plant is doing

. Part of the marketing strategy. As for Canelo, he may not trashtalk Plant but he will let his fist do the talking on November 6th

Much better to see things in actions instead of listening or reading those trash talks between these two fighters. Trash talks are part of advertisement and social media's giving promoters free services.

What Plant are doing is more on encouraging Alvarez to go toe to toe. Maybe he's trying to heat things up and try to find lapses with Alvarez and take his chance.

He would not love the result if Canelo would fight him toe to toe, we know who is the stronger fighter and we know that Canelo would never back down as he loves to fight toe to toe. This is boxing and it's entertaining if both fighters will give their 100% to fight each other, and a toe-to-toe fight will never make the fight boring.

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Whatever it is, the more actions they'll going to bring inside the ring, the better value for the money of all the fans and gamblers that
will going to buy tickets, watch PPV and bet with them.

Canelo always makes a good fight especially if his opponent are willing to give him a good fight.

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I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking, obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

You already said that Canelo is a legend and being a legend takes time and matches and performance.
He has many matches already and most of the fighters that he fought for sure trashtalked him. We saw it against Saunders. Saunders trashtalks, Canelo just shut his mouth or maybe he is saying some words but he isn't spitting words as much as his opponent.

I can't wait for this match to happen. We know already that trashtalks makes hype and that is what Plant is doing

. Part of the marketing strategy. As for Canelo, he may not trashtalk Plant but he will let his fist do the talking on November 6th

Much better to see things in actions instead of listening or reading those trash talks between these two fighters. Trash talks are part of advertisement and social media's giving promoters free services.

What Plant are doing is more on encouraging Alvarez to go toe to toe. Maybe he's trying to heat things up and try to find lapses with Alvarez and take his chance.

Whatever it is, the more actions they'll going to bring inside the ring, the better value for the money of all the fans and gamblers that
will going to buy tickets, watch PPV and bet with them.

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Quote from: Maidak on September 08, 2021, 12:20:42 PM

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking, obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

You already said that Canelo is a legend and being a legend takes time and matches and performance.
He has many matches already and most of the fighters that he fought for sure trashtalked him. We saw it against Saunders. Saunders trashtalks, Canelo just shut his mouth or maybe he is saying some words but he isn't spitting words as much as his opponent.

I can't wait for this match to happen. We know already that trashtalks makes hype and that is what Plant is doing

. Part of the marketing strategy. As for Canelo, he may not trashtalk Plant but he will let his fist do the talking on November 6th

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Quote from: Sithara007 on September 08, 2021, 10:05:26 PM

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

The trash talk may not bother him, but every fighter fighting inside the ring has fear of losing running in their minds, and with Canelo's status he has everything to lose and Plant everything to gain, Plant is more hungry here if you have nothing to lose and everything to gain, you will likely take the chance, the fighter who has everything will be more careful to lose, but let's see I could go wrong.

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Quote from: Maidak on September 08, 2021, 12:20:42 PM

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking, obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

IMO, Canelo may not be bothering too much about Plant. And perhaps that is the reason why he ignored the trash talk from Plant. Canelo is someone who has faced the world's best, including Gennady Golovkin, Floyd Mayweather and Amir Khan. Canelo himself is being regarded as one of the legends in the field of boxing. For him, Plant is just a sitting duck. If the intention from Plant was to provoke Canelo, then I am afraid that it is not going to work. It could have worked 5 years ago.. but definitely not now with all that experience.

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So let's see what version of Caleb Plant will show, yes we don't underestimate him, but even if he works double hard, it might not be enough for beat Canelo in this fight.

In fact, I'm more seeing Caleb Plant is more determined to win here because of his status as an underdog.

Just thinking the recognition he will get if he will upset Canelo is already an inspirational to him and will make him more focus and serious to take down Alvares.

Can't wait for this match to happen.

Every underdog is determined to win, to proved that the betting public or at least sports bookies are wrong putting them as underdog.

Yes, it will be one of the biggest upsets of the year, more than Ugas defeating Pacquiao. But it's going to be a tall order of Caleb to even hit Canelo with a damaging punch that will change the fight itself. Not only you mate, everyone can't wait to see this fight, it's a reunification fight and Plant is the last guy standing for Canelo to get all the belts at 168 lbs.

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I'm not a fan of Plant but I also believe that he will give Canelo a competitive fight, the fact that he is a champion and he is an undefeated fighter has fought some tough fights, they are fighting in the same weight, although the odds favor Canelo, Plant can pull an upset all I know is Plant should surprise Canelo because Canelo has been dominating fighters and showing the same style and that is keep moving forward, hit and not get hit, I'd like to see what Plant is capable of doing when he faces Canelo.

It's for the benefits of the fans. If we see both fighters showcase their talents and try to knock one another, it will be an interesting fight and, for sure, whoever wins the fight, a call for a rematch will happen.

Just the same with your sentiment, Plant is not a champion for nothing, right? He also earned this title fighting to every fighter from this division, though it's we need to accept the fact that Canelo has more fans and bookies seen that the advantage still on his part.

The final ring will decide if who will win this fight and we will witness if both fighters will come out with a surprising fighting style.

At least this one may possibly give us a really worthwhile boxing match to watch out for and not waste the money of their audience. Because some boxers are going to the extent of being technical inside the ring forgetting that they have fans wanting to see a 'brawl' inside the ring. Wink

Canelo is the heavy favorite here so don't know if bettors will still bet on him, unless, they will put large some of money.

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Quote from: aioc on September 08, 2021, 08:07:46 AM

I'm not a fan of Plant but I also believe that he will give Canelo a competitive fight, the fact that he is a champion and he is an undefeated fighter has fought some tough fights, they are fighting in the same weight, although the odds favor Canelo, Plant can pull an upset all I know is Plant should surprise Canelo because Canelo has been dominating fighters and showing the same style and that is keep moving forward, hit and not get hit, I'd like to see what Plant is capable of doing when he faces Canelo.

It's for the benefits of the fans. If we see both fighters showcase their talents and try to knock one another, it will be an interesting fight and, for sure, whoever wins the fight, a call for a rematch will happen.

Just the same with your sentiment, Plant is not a champion for nothing, right? He also earned this title fighting to every fighter from this division, though it's we need to accept the fact that Canelo has more fans and bookies seen that the advantage still on his part.

The final ring will decide if who will win this fight and we will witness if both fighters will come out with a surprising fighting style.

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Plant is trying to sell the fight that is why he is trash talking. His fight with Canelo is going up against a stacked UFC card so they need all the hype they can get. Plant isn't really a household name so it will be harder to convince people to buy this fight instead of the UFC event.

He doesn't need to sell the fight, since it has already attracted so much attention. That said, I really doubt whether the PPV buys this time will match the sales made back in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo took on Golovkin. Back then the expectation was for a close fight between two evenly matched boxers. But this time, a lot of people expect the match to be lop-sided and many assume that Caleb will not last the full 12 rounds. But for us, it is the gambling odds that matters. The odds can change drastically, since two months remain for the match (-1000 for Canelo right now).

I think if he already has a lot of attention why doesn't seek some more right? And a promo is almost all about trash-talking, obviously, we've seen some exceptions were to hype up a fight, almost no trash talking was needed. The fight will take place on 6th November 2021 & I wish all the very best to both fighters. Now for Canelo the key is how to make Plant tired.

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Plant has a unique style and I’d definitely love to see this match happen. Although some folks have speculated that Plant would knock off Canelo early, I don’t think so. I believe it’s going to be a highly competitive match and it will even get to the 7th round. Well, we’ll see about that.

You are the first one who believes that Plant would give a competitive fight, well, I like that because seeing a fan of plant here means he has a believer. I know Canelo is too hype, but he is really too good now and he deserves that hype, however, if we would really see a competitive fight, then that's good for boxing.

I'm not a fan of Plant but I also believe that he will give Canelo a competitive fight, the fact that he is a champion and he is an undefeated fighter has fought some tough fights, they are fighting in the same weight, although the odds favor Canelo, Plant can pull an upset all I know is Plant should surprise Canelo because Canelo has been dominating fighters and showing the same style and that is keep moving forward, hit and not get hit, I'd like to see what Plant is capable of doing when he faces Canelo.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on September 07, 2021, 11:11:38 PM

Plant has a unique style and I’d definitely love to see this match happen. Although some folks have speculated that Plant would knock off Canelo early, I don’t think so. I believe it’s going to be a highly competitive match and it will even get to the 7th round. Well, we’ll see about that.

You are the first one who believes that Plant would give a competitive fight, well, I like that because seeing a fan of plant here means he has a believer. I know Canelo is too hype, but he is really too good now and he deserves that hype, however, if we would really see a competitive fight, then that's good for boxing.

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Plant has a unique style and I’d definitely love to see this match happen. Although some folks have speculated that Plant would knock off Canelo early, I don’t think so. I believe it’s going to be a highly competitive match and it will even get to the 7th round. Well, we’ll see about that.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 06, 2021, 11:00:47 PM

Plant is trying to sell the fight that is why he is trash talking. His fight with Canelo is going up against a stacked UFC card so they need all the hype they can get. Plant isn't really a household name so it will be harder to convince people to buy this fight instead of the UFC event.

He doesn't need to sell the fight, since it has already attracted so much attention. That said, I really doubt whether the PPV buys this time will match the sales made back in 2017 and 2018, when Canelo took on Golovkin. Back then the expectation was for a close fight between two evenly matched boxers. But this time, a lot of people expect the match to be lop-sided and many assume that Caleb will not last the full 12 rounds. But for us, it is the gambling odds that matters. The odds can change drastically, since two months remain for the match (-1000 for Canelo right now).

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