[Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 - page 22.

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Quote from: molsewid on March 18, 2022, 12:37:27 PM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 18, 2022, 10:41:28 AM

While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

It's undeniable that Canelo is the crowds favorite in this battle but I would like to give a hope to Dmitry Bivol to have a chance to ace this fight. I know how great fighter Canelo is and I believe Bivol could be a great opponent for this man. However, I am also hoping that whatever the current situation Russia was in now it may not fully affect the training preparation of Bivol for his upcoming fight. We truly cannot take away the anxious that Bivol's may felt because of the situation but he still needs to be professional and still need to prepare for this battle.

Of course, Dmitry Bivol has a chance here, it might be slim but still, some underdogs can perform very well under pressure. But it's more of his opponents, Canelo is one of the best that's why sport bookies are going to put him as the favorite despite Bivol's number. Unless Canelo didn't train hard because he thinks that he can go and just knock out Bivol and that kind of mindset might set him up for a failure. But then again, with good trainer around Canelo, for sure he knows that training is very important in any fight.

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I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.

We must uphold sportsmanship in every sporting event wherever the match is held because the honesty and decisions of the referees will be judged by all the eyes of the world who will see an extraordinary boxing match. Partisanship is impossible, but my prediction is that the boxing match will end by KO because these two boxers have hard punches that end the match by absolute KO without any bad sentiment from the referee.

No can't discount that fact that there could be home town decision and the boxers knows this. That's why they don't really wanted the fight to go on the score card because this could happen to them and could be the victim. That's why I would agree that the only way for Bivol to win convincingly is by KO by it's very difficult to accomplished against a fighter of Canelo's caliber.

Agreed, This happened multiple times before during fight of Manny Pacquiao to Jeff Horn and Timothy Bradley that both fight in there respective hometown. I believe KO and a very convincing win is really required to defeat a fighter on there hometown because there's some mysterious force always affecting judges decisions in time like this big event because many big people are betting on this match around the world.

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Quote from: erep on March 18, 2022, 01:55:06 PM

Quote from: TravelMug on March 18, 2022, 12:10:48 AM

I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.

We must uphold sportsmanship in every sporting event wherever the match is held because the honesty and decisions of the referees will be judged by all the eyes of the world who will see an extraordinary boxing match. Partisanship is impossible, but my prediction is that the boxing match will end by KO because these two boxers have hard punches that end the match by absolute KO without any bad sentiment from the referee.

No can't discount that fact that there could be home town decision and the boxers knows this. That's why they don't really wanted the fight to go on the score card because this could happen to them and could be the victim. That's why I would agree that the only way for Bivol to win convincingly is by KO by it's very difficult to accomplished against a fighter of Canelo's caliber.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 18, 2022, 12:10:48 AM

I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.

We must uphold sportsmanship in every sporting event wherever the match is held because the honesty and decisions of the referees will be judged by all the eyes of the world who will see an extraordinary boxing match. Partisanship is impossible, but my prediction is that the boxing match will end by KO because these two boxers have hard punches that end the match by absolute KO without any bad sentiment from the referee.

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Quote from: molsewid on March 18, 2022, 12:37:27 PM

Quote from: Rufsilf on March 18, 2022, 10:41:28 AM

While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

It's undeniable that Canelo is the crowds favorite in this battle but I would like to give a hope to Dmitry Bivol to have a chance to ace this fight. I know how great fighter Canelo is and I believe Bivol could be a great opponent for this man. However, I am also hoping that whatever the current situation Russia was in now it may not fully affect the training preparation of Bivol for his upcoming fight. We truly cannot take away the anxious that Bivol's may felt because of the situation but he still needs to be professional and still need to prepare for this battle.

Of course, Bivol has a chance of beating Canelo, but you know, the crowd will favor the more popular boxer, and between the two it's Canelo who is more popular. I hope Bivol will take that as a challenge for him so he will be motivated to train hard and give his best in this coming fight. If Bivol will beat Canelo, he will make a headline in the world, so there's a big price waiting for him if he win.

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Quote from: Rufsilf on March 18, 2022, 10:41:28 AM

While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

It's undeniable that Canelo is the crowds favorite in this battle but I would like to give a hope to Dmitry Bivol to have a chance to ace this fight. I know how great fighter Canelo is and I believe Bivol could be a great opponent for this man. However, I am also hoping that whatever the current situation Russia was in now it may not fully affect the training preparation of Bivol for his upcoming fight. We truly cannot take away the anxious that Bivol's may felt because of the situation but he still needs to be professional and still need to prepare for this battle.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on March 17, 2022, 10:56:32 PM

Quote from: AicecreaME on March 04, 2022, 08:07:35 AM

Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.

I am totally agree with you. Canelo is unique champion. Throughout his career he has enhanced his boxing skills. The only way Bivol wins this fight is by decision. He is a very good fighter but hasnt knocked anyone out in 4 years. And with someone like Canelo that has a granite chin, dont see him stopped in this fight. And maybe there's a chance that he will K.O Bivol.

Good point! IMO, the chances of Canelo getting Bivol via knockout is somewhat relatively high rather than a UD. I mean the possibility is always there and knowing that Canelo is always looking forward to get some openings to get a KO and finish the fight as early as possible without getting scathed.

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Quote from: mirakal on March 16, 2022, 10:57:56 AM

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.

He cannot take that as an excuse he is a professional boxer, he should train and fight like a professional boxer his country is not under siege he should not worry at all, in fact, he should be motivated to win because he has given a chance to fight the number one pound for pound and a win will catapult his career to a new height, this is his biggest fight and a fight that will define his career.

While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on March 17, 2022, 10:56:32 PM

Quote from: AicecreaME on March 04, 2022, 08:07:35 AM

Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.

I am totally agree with you. Canelo is unique champion. Throughout his career he has enhanced his boxing skills. The only way Bivol wins this fight is by decision. He is a very good fighter but hasnt knocked anyone out in 4 years. And with someone like Canelo that has a granite chin, dont see him stopped in this fight. And maybe there's a chance that he will K.O Bivol.

I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on March 04, 2022, 08:07:35 AM

Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.

I am totally agree with you. Canelo is unique champion. Throughout his career he has enhanced his boxing skills. The only way Bivol wins this fight is by decision. He is a very good fighter but hasnt knocked anyone out in 4 years. And with someone like Canelo that has a granite chin, dont see him stopped in this fight. And maybe there's a chance that he will K.O Bivol.

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Quote from: aioc on March 17, 2022, 09:09:07 PM

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Quote from: mirakal on March 16, 2022, 10:57:56 AM

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.

He cannot take that as an excuse he is a professional boxer, he should train and fight like a professional boxer his country is not under siege he should not worry at all, in fact, he should be motivated to win because he has given a chance to fight the number one pound for pound and a win will catapult his career to a new height, this is his biggest fight and a fight that will define his career.

I agree. Bivol should not be distracted too much from what is happening right now. It is not his country that is under heavy bombardment. It is not Russia that is being invaded right now. He should not be worried about his family back home because nobody is attacking them. There is not even a single missile that is hitting Russia right now. So Bivol doesn't have any excuse using the safety of his family back home. If he is troubled by what's happening in Ukraine, we all are.

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Quote from: Botnake on March 16, 2022, 12:53:58 PM

Quote from: mirakal on March 16, 2022, 10:57:56 AM

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

You have a point but they are a professional boxer and they also have signed a deal that the provided match schedule will be observed on time, so Bivol here don't have a choice but to fight Canelo even if he is mentally distracted about his family who is in the middle of chaos right now because if he won't follow the deal then I'm afraid that his career will be at stake and might be over.

He cannot take that as an excuse he is a professional boxer, he should train and fight like a professional boxer his country is not under siege he should not worry at all, in fact, he should be motivated to win because he has given a chance to fight the number one pound for pound and a win will catapult his career to a new height, this is his biggest fight and a fight that will define his career.

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Quote from: goinmerry on March 17, 2022, 06:59:08 PM

We are not talking about Canelo Alvarez here. It's Dmitry Bivol who lived in Russia and has friends there and also in Ukraine. Right now, there's no danger in Russia as the invasion is happening in Ukraine. That's where Bivol concerned is although I'm sure he already understands that and trusts everything in the future that everything will be ok.

He won't be distracted on his ongoing practice and his team will help them do that. Not unless the situation got worst (no-no. There's a rumor that the fight might be delayed or canceled due to the ongoing conflict but let's remain positive it won't happen.

Defeating Canelo must only be on his mind. He should focus on that as much as he can.

Oh I misunderstood then. I thought this was about his family living in Russia or something. Unfortunately I do not know a lot about Alvarez's family. My logical thinking went for a walk in the park for a moment. Its obvious to me now that you are talking about the family of the russian boxxer.

If what you say about Dmitry Bivol having family in Ukraine is true then I guess it would make sense that that could put him off during the fight. Can't really throw a good punch in a state of constant worry... That might throw his concentration off. Or it might not. I don't know a lot about Bivol and his fighting career.

But the point still stands about any Russian who wants to get out of Russia can currently get out. As you said, there is no war in Russia.

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His family lives in Russia, out of the sounds of the war as they are safe there compare to Ukraine that already been under attack. Russia also seems fine even they have lots of economic sanctions. I don't see he will be distracted by his family but by what his country is doing. But since there will be a task to do, I'm sure he is focusing on his training as that's necessary.

Canelo Alvarez is a tough man to beat and Bivol should always be on his relaxed mindset condition to be able to train hard and wise.

There are stakes at risk on this match and both parties understand that losing is not an option.

Canelo Alvarez is indeed a tough man to beat and I somewhat doubt the rumor going about that he is distracted by fears and doubts of uncertainty with his family living in Russia in the current international situation of the war in Ukraine. Alvarez has always been quite concentrated on his training and his fights. If he was that troubled he could easily get his family out of there. People are fleeing out of Russia and nobody is stopping them.

So the question isn't about Canelo Alvarez's mental health. He is strong and ready.

We are not talking about Canelo Alvarez here. It's Dmitry Bivol who lived in Russia and has friends there and also in Ukraine. Right now, there's no danger in Russia as the invasion is happening in Ukraine. That's where Bivol concerned is although I'm sure he already understands that and trusts everything in the future that everything will be ok.

He won't be distracted on his ongoing practice and his team will help them do that. Not unless the situation got worst (no-no. There's a rumor that the fight might be delayed or canceled due to the ongoing conflict but let's remain positive it won't happen.

Defeating Canelo must only be on his mind. He should focus on that as much as he can.

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Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

His family lives in Russia, out of the sounds of the war as they are safe there compare to Ukraine that already been under attack. Russia also seems fine even they have lots of economic sanctions. I don't see he will be distracted by his family but by what his country is doing. But since there will be a task to do, I'm sure he is focusing on his training as that's necessary.

Canelo Alvarez is a tough man to beat and Bivol should always be on his relaxed mindset condition to be able to train hard and wise.

There are stakes at risk on this match and both parties understand that losing is not an option.

Canelo Alvarez is indeed a tough man to beat and I somewhat doubt the rumor going about that he is distracted by fears and doubts of uncertainty with his family living in Russia in the current international situation of the war in Ukraine. Alvarez has always been quite concentrated on his training and his fights. If he was that troubled he could easily get his family out of there. People are fleeing out of Russia and nobody is stopping them.

So the question isn't about Canelo Alvarez's mental health. He is strong and ready.

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I definitely doubt that sponsors will back out, this event is a big one and I don't think they want to lose some good money as for them boxing is still a business.

Actually, it's not that the sponsors or organizers will back out but since there is a lot of pressure put on Russia, that will be one of the reasons why the fight will be delayed. Fortunately, no rumors or any leaks that the fight won't happen, at least for now, so we should just keep positive that it will really push.

And since it's about 2 months before this fight happened, we should also look forward that the situation between Russia and Ukraine will somehow ease within that period.

Quote from: Fredomago on March 14, 2022, 09:13:47 AM

Moving back to this upcoming Bivol fight, we will probably see the adjustment since he will be facing a much bigger and stronger opponent.

The same goes for Canelo as that was his first fight after stepping up. It's a new challenge for him.

so far, no indication of suspending or postponing the fight. i understand, bivol is russian here, but this is not political arena that we are in. though we can't assure if endorsers and other big sponsors will not pull out at the last minute affecting this match.
will this war situation affect bivol in terms of his mental health or preparation of training, we don't know? we know that canelo is already a big star and can pull off good audience, so boxing fans are excited with this match. just hope that everything will be in place and push thru this event.

Many people are now expecting to see this fight, I don't know, I think that the fact that Bivol is Russian will not affect him much in the ring, but I think that outside the ring it will, and a lot, I imagine if this fight takes place, the They will boo a lot just for being Russian, and I think they will criticize a lot the fact that the fight takes place, but this is where I emphasize something, I do not think that this fight will be suspended because of the business model that exists for the sponsors It is very big and aside from the money that each boxer will take, many are waiting for Canelo vs. Inoue, but right now the fact that it is with Bivol makes it something more interesting.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on March 17, 2022, 04:23:06 PM

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Sure he is! Canelo is without a doubt a man of discipline that's why he achieved those feats that not everyone could achieve. Canelo is very different in every fight because he's trying to catch and observe his opponent first and afterwards he will make some move and try to connect more.

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

I can understand what you are saying but I would not say that is unfair, after all it is not as if Canelo went to look for a fight against Bivol trying to exploit the fact that it would be difficult for him to concentrate on the fight.

Canelo was supposed to move to a different division but since there were some issues there he decided to instead fight Bivol, and he did so when there was no war yet, so while the circumstances are without a doubt unfavorable for Bivol I do not think it is quite correct to call it unfair.

I wouldn't say it's unfair either. It's not like these guys have much time to watch the news while they're in training. Sure, he's probably got some concerns about family and friends, but likely he's so focused on what he's doing that he's tuning out the outside noise. If not, he probably won't be a professional fighter for long.

If I was going to say the fight was unfair, I would do so in that I don't think Bivol can match up against Canelo. This fight seems like something to earn a check and stay in shape while waiting for a bigger fight. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'd be putting my money on Canelo if I were going to be betting on this one...

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Quote from: mirakal on March 16, 2022, 10:57:56 AM

Sure he is! Canelo is without a doubt a man of discipline that's why he achieved those feats that not everyone could achieve. Canelo is very different in every fight because he's trying to catch and observe his opponent first and afterwards he will make some move and try to connect more.

I think this fight is quite unfair, isn't it? Canelo is busy preparing for this fight with no distractions while Bivol on the other side is also preparing but his mind is thinking on his homeland where his family is living. I for one believes that Canelo will win this fight but I just also want that Bivol can have some concentration in training without some distraction.

I can understand what you are saying but I would not say that is unfair, after all it is not as if Canelo went to look for a fight against Bivol trying to exploit the fact that it would be difficult for him to concentrate on the fight.

Canelo was supposed to move to a different division but since there were some issues there he decided to instead fight Bivol, and he did so when there was no war yet, so while the circumstances are without a doubt unfavorable for Bivol I do not think it is quite correct to call it unfair.

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Fair or not, this has been agreed and like it or not, this must be done in order to maintain professionalism, for sure Bivol cannot be absent again with a predetermined schedule.
It's quite difficult to do but on the other hand he must also know there will be consequences if he doesn't play this fight because this will definitely have consequences.

He wont be have any choice but to proceed and fight Canelo despite of the current condition of his country or on his family on which it could really affect him mentally but
he needs to be at least focused and concentrated for this upcoming fight even though its hard to ignore but he should do his best.I dont see for this fight to be unfair.
There are really just things in life which do comes unexpectedly but doesnt mean that you couldnt make out any adjustments.

That's right because otherwise he would definitely be labeled as a fighter who did avoid the opponent as happened to Inoe who avoided Casimero and until now it has become a mockery for him.
I don't think Bivol wants this to stick with him because indirectly even if he fought well in other battles if he evades now it will be remembered.
Professionalism is one thing that is quite mandatory and indeed he must be prepared for unexpected consequences and things like this

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 15, 2022, 10:49:55 PM

Anyone thinks that the current war might affect Bivol's performance? I mean he could be bother by the noise behind this one that his training and his mentality on the fight is not 100% because of the current situation in his country. There could be some friends or family members that is close to Bivol that is directly affected by the war and it might stuck into his mind. What do you guys think? Not making excuses if he lost but we have to look at this angle as well.

Maybe a little bit, I mean everyone would be surely affected knowing that your country where your family is also living is having a war with its neighboring country and then somehow you have a big event that you need to attend. I'm not a 100% sure that he's mentality towards the fight is not affected, you know his family is there trapped and yes directly affected too.

He should be immune to this kind of noise, maybe it will affect him if Russia is the one being bombarded, but it 's the other way around. So he can continue with his normal training and focus on the fight itself and just have communications with his family. They are not going to be trapped in this war, they could have been in a safe place by now.

No one has been really prepared enough about these things, who would have thought that a war will happen while he's getting his biggest fight in his career. So of course he will be quite distracted for a while and it will take some time before he will be immune about this kind of noise.

And the other thing is he is getting some issues just because of his nationality and a possible sanctions on his upcoming fight.

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