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This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.
If there is a written contract in place, is it possible for any governing body to overrule that and expect the opponent will not drag them to court. I am not familiar with these aspects when there is a sanction being imposed on countries, but generally they need to honor the contract if not they need to spend a lot of money to keep the opposition quite.

When it comes to the fight, it is going to be a masterclass from Canelo Alvarez as he is way above the level of Dmitry Bivol.
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Or maybe people are not going to see the fight and will not buy the PPV to boycott Russia. I hope they will not be that stupid, they should watch this fight and instead cheer for Canelo to punish Bivol so they can express their disappointment on the brutal actions of Russia.


Ahhh, i wished we could keep politics and war away from sports and boxing but look like it is not going to happen.  Sad


I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.

The odds are already out from bookies, it means, the likelihood that it will happen is there. Unless, there will be unexpected scenarios here. One is about being Russian of Bivol. But inside the ring, is the race really important? Just like what Arnold Schwarzenegger's said in his viral video for Russians, when he was young, his inspiration was Russian Olympic weightlifter Yuri Vlasov. It didn't matter if his father didn't like him because he was Russian, but he gave him inspiration for the sports. After all, we are all humans on this Earth, just trying to survive. So this match of Alvarez vs Bivol, will test Alvarez how tough he is in going up this weight division.

Canelo is familiar with this weight class, he has fought here once against Kovalev and it's a very tough match for him. But after that Canelo improves so him going again on this weight with Bivol as his opponent might be another difficult fight for him. However, we have seen Alvarez rise to be one of the best boxers in recent memory so this fight is a go and Bivol will be given the green light even if he is a Russian going to fight in US soil.
We never know what it may happen, for example the US may forbid any Russian athletes to perform on their country forcing a relocation of the fight or its cancellation, sponsors may boycott the fight, the US fans of boxing are one of the main consumers of PPV and they may boycott the fight as well, the WBA could avoid sanctioning the fight and as such it would not be a title fight anymore, so when we think about all the things that could happen then we can see the fight could be canceled at any moment.

Lets not speculate things and remain positive until we see any official announcement of the cancellation of this match. This match is to be played on May 07, and by that time the conflict between Ukraine and Russia would be over and things would be normal by then.
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I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.

The odds are already out from bookies, it means, the likelihood that it will happen is there. Unless, there will be unexpected scenarios here. One is about being Russian of Bivol. But inside the ring, is the race really important? Just like what Arnold Schwarzenegger's said in his viral video for Russians, when he was young, his inspiration was Russian Olympic weightlifter Yuri Vlasov. It didn't matter if his father didn't like him because he was Russian, but he gave him inspiration for the sports. After all, we are all humans on this Earth, just trying to survive. So this match of Alvarez vs Bivol, will test Alvarez how tough he is in going up this weight division.

Canelo is familiar with this weight class, he has fought here once against Kovalev and it's a very tough match for him. But after that Canelo improves so him going again on this weight with Bivol as his opponent might be another difficult fight for him. However, we have seen Alvarez rise to be one of the best boxers in recent memory so this fight is a go and Bivol will be given the green light even if he is a Russian going to fight in US soil.
We never know what it may happen, for example the US may forbid any Russian athletes to perform on their country forcing a relocation of the fight or its cancellation, sponsors may boycott the fight, the US fans of boxing are one of the main consumers of PPV and they may boycott the fight as well, the WBA could avoid sanctioning the fight and as such it would not be a title fight anymore, so when we think about all the things that could happen then we can see the fight could be canceled at any moment.
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I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.

Or maybe people are not going to see the fight and will not buy the PPV to boycott Russia. I hope they will not be that stupid, they should watch this fight and instead cheer for Canelo to punish Bivol so they can express their disappointment on the brutal actions of Russia.
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The odds are already out from bookies, it means, the likelihood that it will happen is there. Unless, there will be unexpected scenarios here.

The odds are out because currently, the fight is still officially confirmed and will push through.

Only if the fight will be canceled or delayed, it will be taken out from the bookies. But one thing is for sure, regardless of the fight will be sanctioned as a title or non-title fight just to follow the timeline of respective boxers, bookies will still list it and there will be no difference to odds.

I hope no changes will be made until the day of the fight. Kind of a waste of time if this fight will be sanctioned as a non-title match. If that's the case, then they should just totally cancel it and let those boxers move forward to another opponent in exchange for the effort, time, and cost already put on by the organizers.

But inside the ring, is the race really important? Just like what Arnold Schwarzenegger's said in his viral video for Russians, when he was young, his inspiration was Russian Olympic weightlifter Yuri Vlasov. It didn't matter if his father didn't like him because he was Russian, but he gave him inspiration for the sports. After all, we are all humans on this Earth, just trying to survive.

We can't apply that to the current situation.

The world is putting pressure not directly on Russia, but on their head, Vladimir Putin. That was another topic to discuss and might be off-topic here.
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I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.

The odds are already out from bookies, it means, the likelihood that it will happen is there. Unless, there will be unexpected scenarios here. One is about being Russian of Bivol. But inside the ring, is the race really important? Just like what Arnold Schwarzenegger's said in his viral video for Russians, when he was young, his inspiration was Russian Olympic weightlifter Yuri Vlasov. It didn't matter if his father didn't like him because he was Russian, but he gave him inspiration for the sports. After all, we are all humans on this Earth, just trying to survive. So this match of Alvarez vs Bivol, will test Alvarez how tough he is in going up this weight division.

Canelo is familiar with this weight class, he has fought here once against Kovalev and it's a very tough match for him. But after that Canelo improves so him going again on this weight with Bivol as his opponent might be another difficult fight for him. However, we have seen Alvarez rise to be one of the best boxers in recent memory so this fight is a go and Bivol will be given the green light even if he is a Russian going to fight in US soil.
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I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.

The odds are already out from bookies, it means, the likelihood that it will happen is there. Unless, there will be unexpected scenarios here. One is about being Russian of Bivol. But inside the ring, is the race really important? Just like what Arnold Schwarzenegger's said in his viral video for Russians, when he was young, his inspiration was Russian Olympic weightlifter Yuri Vlasov. It didn't matter if his father didn't like him because he was Russian, but he gave him inspiration for the sports. After all, we are all humans on this Earth, just trying to survive. So this match of Alvarez vs Bivol, will test Alvarez how tough he is in going up this weight division.
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I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

This fight will go on as plan because of the amount of money involved here. The only thing that some of the people have concern about is the sanctioning of this fight because of Bivol being a Russian. Some don't want this to be a title fight, some want to cancel but the promoters is keen on proceeding whether there is a belt or none as long as Canelo can fulfill what is written on the contract.
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Yes, Bivol has the chance on defeating Canelo but only by a decision because I don't see him defeating the latter via KO. It's somehow impossible for me.
I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.
Until now, there are still people who are talking about this and indeed it will be good if this is done properly.
But on the other hand this is still not certain because as you said when it comes to dealing with Russia right now it will be difficult because indeed everything related to Russia will be limited.
I hope this fight goes on but even if it can't be forced then I hope for the best for now
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It will be different even if Canelo would win via decision and people will not be surprised because he is the popular fighter unlike the scenario in Pacman vs Horn where everyone expects Manny will win even before the fight.  Of course, the home-court advantage was huge in that fight, and that clearly tells boxing is corrupt because we have judges who make bias scoring probably for the money.

Let's just hope that no controversies or issues will be raised after the fight. We can see clearly if something is wrong with the result if we watch the fight. There's an incident before that a win can be reversed if there are enough valid pointers and proof to do it.

But that was just a what if. We can expect that this fight will end up with a fair result. No questions if one of them will be KO but for decision, I'm expecting that judges will be fair and square.

It's a big match and I'm sure no one will ruin the fight result if ever it will come up in a decision.

I'm more on a KO win. There's no question if a fighter who will win this fight knocks down his opponent. No doubt that a clear
win will be declared and in case a rematch will take place, it won't be questionable but a clear one in front of the fans and viewers
of both boxers.

Let see if Alvarez can continue his journey in this new division, a much bigger and much stronger and heavy puncher opponent
will test him here.
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You can go back a few pages back and see that we have touch base this topic already.

We are now speculating on how Bivol can win against Canelo because it will be a very difficult task for him since Canelo seems to be very formidable at 160-175 lbs division, to that point that it seems that no one can beat him right now. So we are laying down potential scenarios on how Bivol can win but it will be a long shot and it's more of Canelo side screwing this up, but we don't see it happening as well.
I don't think there is  much  left in discussing this debate - both the boxers are great and they have their strengths, but like many things coming against Russia. This match will not be happening in near future. Boxing fans will definitely miss an interesting match. May this uncertainty ends soon
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Yes, Bivol has the chance on defeating Canelo but only by a decision because I don't see him defeating the latter via KO. It's somehow impossible for me.
I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.

You can go back a few pages back and see that we have touch base this topic already.

We are now speculating on how Bivol can win against Canelo because it will be a very difficult task for him since Canelo seems to be very formidable at 160-175 lbs division, to that point that it seems that no one can beat him right now. So we are laying down potential scenarios on how Bivol can win but it will be a long shot and it's more of Canelo side screwing this up, but we don't see it happening as well.
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Yes, Bivol has the chance on defeating Canelo but only by a decision because I don't see him defeating the latter via KO. It's somehow impossible for me.
I am not sure if this fight will happen. Although boxing fans are looking ahead for this fight but Bivol is Russian. And there are many chances that like many other sports this match will be cancelled as well. But let's hope for the best. In today's time safety of everyone is important than entertainment.
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While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

It's undeniable that Canelo is the crowds favorite in this battle but I would like to give a hope to Dmitry Bivol to have a chance to ace this fight. I know how great fighter Canelo is and I believe Bivol could be a great opponent for this man. However, I am also hoping that whatever the current situation Russia was in now it may not fully affect the training preparation of Bivol for his upcoming fight. We truly cannot take away the anxious that Bivol's may felt because of the situation but he still needs to be professional and still need to prepare for this battle.

Of course, Bivol has a chance of beating Canelo, but you know, the crowd will favor the more popular boxer, and between the two it's Canelo who is more popular. I hope Bivol will take that as a challenge for him so he will be motivated to train hard and give his best in this coming fight. If Bivol will beat Canelo, he will make a headline in the world, so there's a big price waiting for him if he win.

Every successful boxer comes with popularity and not the other way around, well except for those Paul brothers because they've been already making names outside the industry. But back to the topic, based on popularity, Canelo has it and that's exactly why the people is considering him as the heavy favorite.

Yes, Bivol has the chance on defeating Canelo but only by a decision because I don't see him defeating the latter via KO. It's somehow impossible for me.
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While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

It's undeniable that Canelo is the crowds favorite in this battle but I would like to give a hope to Dmitry Bivol to have a chance to ace this fight. I know how great fighter Canelo is and I believe Bivol could be a great opponent for this man. However, I am also hoping that whatever the current situation Russia was in now it may not fully affect the training preparation of Bivol for his upcoming fight. We truly cannot take away the anxious that Bivol's may felt because of the situation but he still needs to be professional and still need to prepare for this battle.

Of course, Dmitry Bivol has a chance here, it might be slim but still, some underdogs can perform very well under pressure. But it's more of his opponents, Canelo is one of the best that's why sport bookies are going to put him as the favorite despite Bivol's number. Unless Canelo didn't train hard because he thinks that he can go and just knock out Bivol and that kind of mindset might set him up for a failure. But then again, with good trainer around Canelo, for sure he knows that training is very important in any fight.

We know Canelo is not like that kind of boxer to be overconfident by his prowess, he is the kind of boxer who is well disciplined even he already knew that his opponent is not the type who could upset him. But yes you have a point mate, if indeed Canelo's mindset is something like that then a defeat won't definitely shock us.

Besides Bivol does have a chance on taking Canelo but only for a UD and not by a KO.

I don't think Canelo would only be underestimating Bivol because we know that Canelo doesn't have that kind of attitude towards his opponents. He only focuses on his training. I'm sure that he's preparing well for this match because to be honest, it will still be a challenging match for him since Bivol has also been preparing to beat him.
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While you're true about that, I think we cannot take away Bivol's anxiousness towards his family because Russia is also in an imminent danger as the said country could be retaliated in any given time by other opposing countries who supports Ukraine and even if he's a professional boxer, he is still a normal human being. I'm just saying that everything is possible during the war.

Despite all these issues, I do also believe that this fight will belong to Canelo and Bivol here cannot possibly upset him, but if ever Bivol will then his career would be soaring high and Canelo will surely want a rematch.

It's undeniable that Canelo is the crowds favorite in this battle but I would like to give a hope to Dmitry Bivol to have a chance to ace this fight. I know how great fighter Canelo is and I believe Bivol could be a great opponent for this man. However, I am also hoping that whatever the current situation Russia was in now it may not fully affect the training preparation of Bivol for his upcoming fight. We truly cannot take away the anxious that Bivol's may felt because of the situation but he still needs to be professional and still need to prepare for this battle.

Of course, Dmitry Bivol has a chance here, it might be slim but still, some underdogs can perform very well under pressure. But it's more of his opponents, Canelo is one of the best that's why sport bookies are going to put him as the favorite despite Bivol's number. Unless Canelo didn't train hard because he thinks that he can go and just knock out Bivol and that kind of mindset might set him up for a failure. But then again, with good trainer around Canelo, for sure he knows that training is very important in any fight.

We know Canelo is not like that kind of boxer to be overconfident by his prowess, he is the kind of boxer who is well disciplined even he already knew that his opponent is not the type who could upset him. But yes you have a point mate, if indeed Canelo's mindset is something like that then a defeat won't definitely shock us.

Besides Bivol does have a chance on taking Canelo but only for a UD and not by a KO.
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Canelo is the one who has advantage on this coming match versus Bivol in my opinion. Other than his experience in boxing which is more than Bivol, Canelo is a power punching with his impressive footwork and traps that lure his opponent to enter his reach and then Canelo would deliver the combinations with counterpunch as a knockout move if delivered good in his opponent.
I am totally agree with you. Canelo is unique champion. Throughout his career he has enhanced his boxing skills. The only way Bivol wins this fight is by decision. He is a very good fighter but hasnt knocked anyone out in 4 years. And with someone like Canelo that has a granite chin, dont see him stopped in this fight. And maybe there's a chance that he will K.O Bivol.

I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.
True, it will be very difficult to try to be aggressive and too open when the opponent is Canelo who incidentally he is one of the boxers who in my opinion is a boxer whose punches are very fast and also strong so it will be difficult to play quite open here because I am pretty sure Canelo too will play Aggressive.
actually it depends on Bivol in managing his strength and the strategy he does here because it will be very troublesome if he is too aggressive at the beginning of the round
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It will be different even if Canelo would win via decision and people will not be surprised because he is the popular fighter unlike the scenario in Pacman vs Horn where everyone expects Manny will win even before the fight.  Of course, the home-court advantage was huge in that fight, and that clearly tells boxing is corrupt because we have judges who make bias scoring probably for the money.

Let's just hope that no controversies or issues will be raised after the fight. We can see clearly if something is wrong with the result if we watch the fight. There's an incident before that a win can be reversed if there are enough valid pointers and proof to do it.

But that was just a what if. We can expect that this fight will end up with a fair result. No questions if one of them will be KO but for decision, I'm expecting that judges will be fair and square.

It's a big match and I'm sure no one will ruin the fight result if ever it will come up in a decision.
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I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.
We must uphold sportsmanship in every sporting event wherever the match is held because the honesty and decisions of the referees will be judged by all the eyes of the world who will see an extraordinary boxing match. Partisanship is impossible, but my prediction is that the boxing match will end by KO because these two boxers have hard punches that end the match by absolute KO without any bad sentiment from the referee.

No can't discount that fact that there could be home town decision and the boxers knows this. That's why they don't really wanted the fight to go on the score card because this could happen to them and could be the victim. That's why I would agree that the only way for Bivol to win convincingly is by KO by it's very difficult to accomplished against a fighter of Canelo's caliber.

Agreed, This happened multiple times before during fight of Manny Pacquiao to Jeff Horn and Timothy Bradley that both fight in there respective hometown. I believe KO and a very convincing win is really required to defeat a fighter on there hometown because there's some mysterious force always affecting judges decisions in time like this big event because many big people are betting on this match around the world.

This is so true, specially the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao, it was held on Australian soil home of Jeff Horn and it was really a biased decision and every boxing fans really knows what happen there. So a KO is a must for Bivol to erase the shadow of the doubt and no questions after the fight who really had won. But it's the question on how Bivol can do it, he will not a lot of luck on his side to win against a prime Canelo Alvarez.

It will be different even if Canelo would win via decision and people will not be surprised because he is the popular fighter unlike the scenario in Pacman vs Horn where everyone expects Manny will win even before the fight.  Of course, the home-court advantage was huge in that fight, and that clearly tells boxing is corrupt because we have judges who make bias scoring probably for the money.
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I don't think that Bivol can also win in a decision here. This will happen in Cinco de Mayo week which is going to favor Canelo. If it's going to be on the judges scorecard, Bivol should be a clear winner, but if it's going to be a razor sharp and very close, I don't think he will win. He needs to get out and should look for a knock out win and not just let it go to the scorecard.
We must uphold sportsmanship in every sporting event wherever the match is held because the honesty and decisions of the referees will be judged by all the eyes of the world who will see an extraordinary boxing match. Partisanship is impossible, but my prediction is that the boxing match will end by KO because these two boxers have hard punches that end the match by absolute KO without any bad sentiment from the referee.

No can't discount that fact that there could be home town decision and the boxers knows this. That's why they don't really wanted the fight to go on the score card because this could happen to them and could be the victim. That's why I would agree that the only way for Bivol to win convincingly is by KO by it's very difficult to accomplished against a fighter of Canelo's caliber.

Agreed, This happened multiple times before during fight of Manny Pacquiao to Jeff Horn and Timothy Bradley that both fight in there respective hometown. I believe KO and a very convincing win is really required to defeat a fighter on there hometown because there's some mysterious force always affecting judges decisions in time like this big event because many big people are betting on this match around the world.

This is so true, specially the Jeff Horn vs Manny Pacquiao, it was held on Australian soil home of Jeff Horn and it was really a biased decision and every boxing fans really knows what happen there. So a KO is a must for Bivol to erase the shadow of the doubt and no questions after the fight who really had won. But it's the question on how Bivol can do it, he will not a lot of luck on his side to win against a prime Canelo Alvarez.
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