[Boxing]: Canelo Alvarez vs Dmitry Bivol - May 7 - page 25.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 12, 2022, 09:47:23 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

No, it's not, it's actually his second time to fight in the light heavyweight he won the WBO light heavyweight by knocking out Sergey Kovalev, there's really no difference because he can still move lightly and powerful in the light heavyweight, he has a great team I'm sure they will take care of business.

Exactly! Canelo is already used to fight across different divisions, and he is definitely not a beginner in this division. Well except the CW because his fight against Ilunga Makabu did not materialized. Canelo and his team are smart, they certainly won't risk Canelo's career if the chances are slim against Dmitry Bivol and don't forget that Eddie Hearn himself is the brain in this agreement so probably this is a cherry pick before he will face GGG.

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Quote from: Shamm on March 12, 2022, 05:49:55 PM

Canelo alvarez must take this fight as one of his big fight cause his opponent is more just easy to handle and we all know that Dmitry Bivol is a champion and a good fighter so without a doubt he is still have a chance to win against canelo.
And if. Canelo wants to fight GGG in the next fight after this is he must win these fight first.

Don't worry Canelo Alvarez is not that kind of boxer who is so confident and underestimates his opponents, in fact it's the opposite one that's why he got to his position now, the undisputed boxer and the pound for pound king. Bivol is a champion in his division but we cannot deny that his chances are not that big compared to Canelo.
But I'm pretty sure that this one will be a good fight as Bivol has a different style that could make Canelo adjust.

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Quote from: TravelMug on March 13, 2022, 03:54:37 AM

Correct, Bivol has nothing to lose here, and then he will get a lot of exposure and of course money in the Canelo sweepstakes. So no pressure, just fight the way he fight and who knows, maybe he will give Canelo the biggest fight of his career because he has a good chance because he has power to knock out anyone in the Light Heavyweight. This is his territory and has face bigger guys than Canelo so he will be ready for sure. Plus he got a good chin too and also throws body punches.

I like that point where the stake is more on Canelo, he needs this win to keep his name on top and bring more hypes while with Bivol this fight will him being more recognized, Canelo's followers will remember his name if ever upset will happen to this fight and he win against Canelo, we don't know how this fight will end and who will win both fighters are waiting for good opportunities and to aim for more wins against to any fighter that will be match to them.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol.

If Bivol is like that, Canelo will surely know how to handle that type of fighter.

In his total record, there should be a boxer that Canelo fought before who also like to distance.

There's also no mentioned regarding that by some analysis that makes me think it can't be consider as an advantage for Bivol.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

That was supposed to be the usual thing to happen to any boxer that moving up weight but contrary to that, analyst even says that Canelo shouldn't have a problem with that.

That's also one of the reason why Canelo is the favorite to win the match even he's the one that is taking the challenge.

However, I will still tell you not to underestimate Bivol. Also how will you bet on Canelo? Will he win by a knockout? Through a decision? How would we know this? Bivol is still undefeated in his weight division. The pressure is on Canelo and I am afraid this fight might not be so easy for him.

Correct, Bivol has nothing to lose here, and then he will get a lot of exposure and of course money in the Canelo sweepstakes. So no pressure, just fight the way he fight and who knows, maybe he will give Canelo the biggest fight of his career because he has a good chance because he has power to knock out anyone in the Light Heavyweight. This is his territory and has face bigger guys than Canelo so he will be ready for sure. Plus he got a good chin too and also throws body punches.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 13, 2022, 03:00:18 AM

Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 12, 2022, 11:09:48 PM

Bivol is toe to toe boxer and never run away too, the thing is I never watch him fight with a strong boxer and intimidated him. For sure with Canelo record and fans might pressured him inside the ring.

That will be Bivol's biggest issue he used to hit fighters who cannot duck who can't see his punches and obviously intimidated, he will be fighting against a fighter who will stand there take his best punches, and counterpunches, I was impressed by Canelo's style against Callum Smith, Smith is known as a guy with a very good jab but Canelo beat him with his jab, this what makes a great fighter he beat his opponents on their own strength, Canelo was never pressured in any fight he takes his time very patient and beat his opponent at the right time.

That's why this fight makes it more exciting to see, if he can stand toe to toe in front of Canelo for sure they will trade punches, power punches that can take the head off of anyone of them.

So the style of Bivol is tailor made for Canelo, he will be tested, his chin his power, maybe this could be a similar GGG vs Canelo I fight.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on March 12, 2022, 11:09:48 PM

Bivol is toe to toe boxer and never run away too, the thing is I never watch him fight with a strong boxer and intimidated him. For sure with Canelo record and fans might pressured him inside the ring.

That will be Bivol's biggest issue he used to hit fighters who cannot duck who can't see his punches and obviously intimidated, he will be fighting against a fighter who will stand there take his best punches, and counterpunches, I was impressed by Canelo's style against Callum Smith, Smith is known as a guy with a very good jab but Canelo beat him with his jab, this what makes a great fighter he beat his opponents on their own strength, Canelo was never pressured in any fight he takes his time very patient and beat his opponent at the right time.

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Quote from: chaser15 on March 12, 2022, 05:19:50 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol.

If Bivol is like that, Canelo will surely know how to handle that type of fighter.

In his total record, there should be a boxer that Canelo fought before who also like to distance.

There's also no mentioned regarding that by some analysis that makes me think it can't be consider as an advantage for Bivol.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

That was supposed to be the usual thing to happen to any boxer that moving up weight but contrary to that, analyst even says that Canelo shouldn't have a problem with that.

That's also one of the reason why Canelo is the favorite to win the match even he's the one that is taking the challenge.

However, I will still tell you not to underestimate Bivol. Also how will you bet on Canelo? Will he win by a knockout? Through a decision? How would we know this? Bivol is still undefeated in his weight division. The pressure is on Canelo and I am afraid this fight might not be so easy for him.

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Quote from: judeafante on March 12, 2022, 07:24:37 PM

I'm not saying this is a cherry-picked fight because Bivol is a great fighter and a good champion but he is not in Canelo's level the only one I can think of that will really challenge him is Golovkin and I want this trilogy to happen before GGG retires both styles compliment each other, GGG is a type of fighter who can stand toe to toe and never run away, and this is something that can challenge Canelo, GGG is the only fighter that can bring the fight to Canelo.

Well to be honest if trilogy will happen I wouldn't expect GGG will beat Canelo, GGG is aging while Canelo on his prime age. But of course many people including myself are really want to see the trilogy, it's one of most awaited fight by everyone.

Bivol is toe to toe boxer and never run away too, the thing is I never watch him fight with a strong boxer and intimidated him. For sure with Canelo record and fans might pressured him inside the ring.

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Quote from: OgNasty on March 12, 2022, 06:55:43 PM

As to be expected, the poll results are heavily favoring Canelo.

Alvarez   - 28 (87.5%)
Bivol   - 3 (9.4%)
Draw   - 1 (3.1%)

I don't think there's anyone in his weight class who can really compete with him right now. A shame because he's a great fighter and I don't see any great fights in his near future. Bivol appears to just be the next victim. Maybe we'll get a surprise, but I'll be putting my money on Canelo for this one. Anything other than a victory for him would be a bit of a surprise. Hopefully the sport of boxing will get a little more competitive now that the Paul brothers have brought some new blood to the sport because UFC has left boxing with a bit to be desired.

I'm not saying this is a cherry-picked fight because Bivol is a great fighter and a good champion but he is not in Canelo's level the only one I can think of that will really challenge him is Golovkin and I want this trilogy to happen before GGG retires both styles compliment each other, GGG is a type of fighter who can stand toe to toe and never run away, and this is something that can challenge Canelo, GGG is the only fighter that can bring the fight to Canelo.

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As to be expected, the poll results are heavily favoring Canelo.

Alvarez   - 28 (87.5%)
Bivol   - 3 (9.4%)
Draw   - 1 (3.1%)

I don't think there's anyone in his weight class who can really compete with him right now. A shame because he's a great fighter and I don't see any great fights in his near future. Bivol appears to just be the next victim. Maybe we'll get a surprise, but I'll be putting my money on Canelo for this one. Anything other than a victory for him would be a bit of a surprise. Hopefully the sport of boxing will get a little more competitive now that the Paul brothers have brought some new blood to the sport because UFC has left boxing with a bit to be desired.

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Canelo alvarez must take this fight as one of his big fight cause his opponent is more just easy to handle and we all know that Dmitry Bivol is a champion and a good fighter so without a doubt he is still have a chance to win against canelo.
And if. Canelo wants to fight GGG in the next fight after this is he must win these fight first.

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Quote from: Saisher on March 11, 2022, 12:09:22 AM

Quote from: Russlenat on March 09, 2022, 05:49:29 AM

The statement of the sanctioning bodies and other giants in the sports industries are heavily biased, they cannot just ban those said athletes and get the fights unsanctioned just because their nationality is Russian is really unreasonable and wrong.

If this cases will remain, then I don't doubt that a time will come that they won't let the said athletes or fighters to join such games or events just because they do not share the same beliefs or views.

I read in one article that they will let Bivol fight Canelo but Bivol will not be allowed to show the Russian flag and they will not allow playing the Russian national anthem, I think that's fair enough they are not banning the boxer but what he represents, I love to see this push through Bivol has never been challenged inside the ring he is always in offense let us see if his offense is that good to challenge's Canelo's defense.

To me that would be enough of a compromise, we need to understand there are many Russians that are against the war but due to the absolute power that Putin holds there is nothing they can do, so not only they have to endure the economic sanctions as everyone else, but they have to have their name being thrown together with those that support the war, something that is completely unfair, so as long as Bivol is fine with fighting without any references to Russia then I think the fight should still go forward.

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It is quite expected that there will be many foreign country supporting Ukraine of any sorts, everyone is condemning the Russian Federation and its citizens are taking the direct hit.

You bet! Every fight Canelo had is really anticipated by everyone that is fond of boxing. But this time, Canelo is looking forward to defeat the defending champion which is Bivol. I don't think they can find a replacement considering the time left.

Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Nah, I don't think it that way. The boxing industry and other sports industries are restricting Russian contender to show support to Ukraine and that they are condemning the Russian president, Vladimir Putin. It may sound political but it's not.
It's totally fine if the sanctioning bodies will impose a restriction that the Russian anthem and flag is not allowed in the fight, but banning them and getting their fights unsanctioned? That's too far.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

However, watch the style of Bivol. He is a master of controlling his distance. This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol. Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

You are not updated on Canelo's career he is once a light heavyweight champion when he knocks out Kovalev back in 2019, Kovalev for me is a far better boxer than Bivol when it comes to boxing in distance, he has a lot of success fighting boxers that are taller than him and love to move, Canelo is a master in cutting the ring, unfortunately for Bivol he is not really taller than Canelo compared to Callum Smith

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

No, it's not, it's actually his second time to fight in the light heavyweight he won the WBO light heavyweight by knocking out Sergey Kovalev, there's really no difference because he can still move lightly and powerful in the light heavyweight, he has a great team I'm sure they will take care of business.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol.

If Bivol is like that, Canelo will surely know how to handle that type of fighter.

In his total record, there should be a boxer that Canelo fought before who also like to distance.

There's also no mentioned regarding that by some analysis that makes me think it can't be consider as an advantage for Bivol.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2022, 04:16:07 AM

Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

That was supposed to be the usual thing to happen to any boxer that moving up weight but contrary to that, analyst even says that Canelo shouldn't have a problem with that.

That's also one of the reason why Canelo is the favorite to win the match even he's the one that is taking the challenge.

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Quote from: aioc on March 11, 2022, 06:37:29 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 10, 2022, 11:11:24 PM

Quote from: smyslov on March 09, 2022, 06:36:53 AM

Like all the other early big fights of Canelo he is the heavy favorite, here only two people out of 30 voters here believe Bivol can beat Canelo, I have this feeling Bivol is the weakest opponent Canelo will face, he lacks defense doesn't have a good lateral movement and flatfooted, something Canelo exploits with that kind of moves.

Alvarez   - 27 (90%)
Bivol   - 2 (6.7%)
Draw   - 1 (3.3%)
Total Voters: 30

It is now 3 votes hehehe. Add me to team Bivol. Also after reviewing some of the posts in this thread, it appears that Dmitry Bivol might be very underestimated for this fight! I do not know Bivol very much, however, after watching videos of his fights, he is certainly an expert in controlling the distance. This might be difficult for Canelo who is shorter in height and in reach, I reckon. Bivol also has power in his left hook and his straight right punch. Similar to Canelo, he also likes punching the body.

In all the fights I've seen on Canelo except the Mayweather fight his opponent's reach and height advantage is useless Callum is 1.98 cm while Canelo is 1.78 a big difference in height but he makes Smith a short fighter with his timing and body shots he is always an advantage when his opponents are taller than him, he is an exceptionally gifted fighter Bivol may be a good fighter but so are the fighters that Canelo beat.

However, watch the style of Bivol. He is a master of controlling his distance. This will certainly be difficult for Canelo to use his combinations if everything he punches is the shadow of Bivol. Also, it will be Canelo's first time to fight in light heavyweight. This might cause him to become slower.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 12, 2022, 01:40:58 AM

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Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Yes, exactly and there's no point of mixing the sports and politics because this two are totally different kind of area. I do hope that whatever the conflicts going on with the Russia today may not affect this upcoming fight of Canelo vs. Bivol because I did not doubt that this battle will be one of the most watch battle of Canelo. Based on my own speculation regarding this battle I am rooting for the success of Canelo well because he's an undefeated fighter of his time and that's make him a strong fighter today.

Supporting Canelo to beat the Russian boxer Bivol would be a better way than trying to ban the fight to support Ukraine. Politics should be set aside as it will never do good for business, the sports of boxing has been here to entertain people, not the way to kill people's excitement just to support a certain nation.

I will still be neutral but as far as boxing fans goes, Canelo will be the heavy favorite in this fight. I also do agree with most of the posters here, let boxing be boxing, don't include politics into it.

Let this fight happen on May 7 and may the better man win, if Bivol wins then good for him, he will be proud of himself. If Canelo was too strong and won then so be it. It's boxers vs boxers not countries.

So do I, I also stand and support Ukraine on this one because we all know that war isn't an answer as many innocent people on both sides will seriously suffer in this conflict. I hope the sanctioning bodies will re-assess their new implementation, these people have nothing to do with Putin. Let them deliver entertainment not hatred towards the sports.
There's no news regarding if this fight will continue or not but I do hope that this will continue without any restrictions to Bivol.

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Quote from: Questat on March 11, 2022, 11:21:53 AM

Quote from: molsewid on March 11, 2022, 10:45:36 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 11, 2022, 08:41:42 AM

Obviously, the boxing organizations want this a no politics match, and with the two boxers battling it out for the belt based on their skills and not on their nationality if they are not going to play Bivol's anthem I wonder if they are going to play Canelo's Mexico's anthem and wave the Mexican flag Canelo deserves to have his flag waved because he is a proud Mexican heritage.

Yes, exactly and there's no point of mixing the sports and politics because this two are totally different kind of area. I do hope that whatever the conflicts going on with the Russia today may not affect this upcoming fight of Canelo vs. Bivol because I did not doubt that this battle will be one of the most watch battle of Canelo. Based on my own speculation regarding this battle I am rooting for the success of Canelo well because he's an undefeated fighter of his time and that's make him a strong fighter today.

Supporting Canelo to beat the Russian boxer Bivol would be a better way than trying to ban the fight to support Ukraine. Politics should be set aside as it will never do good for business, the sports of boxing has been here to entertain people, not the way to kill people's excitement just to support a certain nation.

I will still be neutral but as far as boxing fans goes, Canelo will be the heavy favorite in this fight. I also do agree with most of the posters here, let boxing be boxing, don't include politics into it.

Let this fight happen on May 7 and may the better man win, if Bivol wins then good for him, he will be proud of himself. If Canelo was too strong and won then so be it. It's boxers vs boxers not countries.

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Quote from: aioc on March 11, 2022, 06:37:29 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 10, 2022, 11:11:24 PM

Quote from: smyslov on March 09, 2022, 06:36:53 AM

Like all the other early big fights of Canelo he is the heavy favorite, here only two people out of 30 voters here believe Bivol can beat Canelo, I have this feeling Bivol is the weakest opponent Canelo will face, he lacks defense doesn't have a good lateral movement and flatfooted, something Canelo exploits with that kind of moves.

Alvarez   - 27 (90%)
Bivol   - 2 (6.7%)
Draw   - 1 (3.3%)
Total Voters: 30

It is now 3 votes hehehe. Add me to team Bivol. Also after reviewing some of the posts in this thread, it appears that Dmitry Bivol might be very underestimated for this fight! I do not know Bivol very much, however, after watching videos of his fights, he is certainly an expert in controlling the distance. This might be difficult for Canelo who is shorter in height and in reach, I reckon. Bivol also has power in his left hook and his straight right punch. Similar to Canelo, he also likes punching the body.

In all the fights I've seen on Canelo except the Mayweather fight his opponent's reach and height advantage is useless Callum is 1.98 cm while Canelo is 1.78 a big difference in height but he makes Smith a short fighter with his timing and body shots he is always an advantage when his opponents are taller than him, he is an exceptionally gifted fighter Bivol may be a good fighter but so are the fighters that Canelo beat.

But that lost against Mayweather? Canelo is still relatively unknown in the US and that he is too green at that time. That's why Oscar Dela Hoya is bitter that Canelo bolted away from him and there was even news before the Oscar wanted to fight Canelo. Reason being is that if Oscar didn't give Canelo the exposure that time against Floyd he wouldn't be the big name that he become today.

Nevertheless, he is facing Bivol at Light-Heavyweight, another tougher opponent for him, nevertheless, even if Bivol has the physical advantage, Canelo will have answer for that.

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