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Quote from: Baofeng on September 12, 2022, 08:23:53 AM

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I've seen predictions of the following that Canelo will knock out GGG.

1. Amir Khan
2. Juan Manual Marquez

Their reason is that Canelo is just about in his prime years and GGG is old and 40 years old. And the body punch will be the key for Canelo if he wanted to soften GGG. And then GGG doesn't look good against Murata although he won that fight.

Not sure if we should listen to this former boxers, but they have their own opinion but we already knew those points already.

We should listen to their opinions with a grain of salt hehe. For me, they are right because Canelo is a body puncher that could hurt anybody in his weight division, how much more if it is against a boxer who is 40 years old which in this sport is considered past his prime.

I have read that article also where Amir Khan and Juan Manuel Marquez predict a knockout win by Canelo but have not read where anyone predicting a win by GGG.

The only consolation for this fight is if GGG survives the full 12 rounds and does not get knocked out, that's where I also put my money come September 17, a Canelo win by decision.

And we have another former boxer who has the same opinion as the majority of them - Carl Framption:

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"I would like to see Golovkin win, but I feel this is going to be the most decisive victory for Canelo given where they now find themselves in their careers."

https://www.boxingscene.com/frampton-id-like-golovkin-win-this-decisive-canelo-victory--168999

And as the fight gets closer, we might see former fighters opinion on this fight. But I wouldn't be surprised if they are going for Canelo to win.

Maybe the camp of GGG have seen this reports and will have something to do when the bell rings.

GGG is a good guy, which must be the reason why some of the boxers and boxing experts are withholding their opinions as they respect GGG but deep in their hearts, they know that GGG is on the losing end. Father time is a difficult opponent and no amount of training (at least for me) will make you feel you are years younger. If only the opponent is not Canelo then I could say that GGG has the chance but against Canelo who is trying to bounce back from a loss, it would be tough for GGG.

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Quote from: Baofeng on September 12, 2022, 08:23:53 AM

https://www.boxingscene.com/frampton-id-like-golovkin-win-this-decisive-canelo-victory--168999

And as the fight gets closer, we might see former fighters opinion on this fight. But I wouldn't be surprised if they are going for Canelo to win.

Maybe the camp of GGG have seen this reports and will have something to do when the bell rings.

Sure they are already finding ways to find the weakness of Canelo, and since Canelo lose on his previous fight, then I guess they know already the weakness of Canelo. However, this is a different fight though as GGG is not Bivol, and Canelo won the previous fight against him, so it's still a tough challenge.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 10, 2022, 08:44:41 PM

Quote from: Kemarit on September 10, 2022, 08:28:56 PM

I've seen predictions of the following that Canelo will knock out GGG.

1. Amir Khan
2. Juan Manual Marquez

Their reason is that Canelo is just about in his prime years and GGG is old and 40 years old. And the body punch will be the key for Canelo if he wanted to soften GGG. And then GGG doesn't look good against Murata although he won that fight.

Not sure if we should listen to this former boxers, but they have their own opinion but we already knew those points already.

We should listen to their opinions with a grain of salt hehe. For me, they are right because Canelo is a body puncher that could hurt anybody in his weight division, how much more if it is against a boxer who is 40 years old which in this sport is considered past his prime.

I have read that article also where Amir Khan and Juan Manuel Marquez predict a knockout win by Canelo but have not read where anyone predicting a win by GGG.

The only consolation for this fight is if GGG survives the full 12 rounds and does not get knocked out, that's where I also put my money come September 17, a Canelo win by decision.

And we have another former boxer who has the same opinion as the majority of them - Carl Framption:

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"I would like to see Golovkin win, but I feel this is going to be the most decisive victory for Canelo given where they now find themselves in their careers."

https://www.boxingscene.com/frampton-id-like-golovkin-win-this-decisive-canelo-victory--168999

And as the fight gets closer, we might see former fighters opinion on this fight. But I wouldn't be surprised if they are going for Canelo to win.

Maybe the camp of GGG have seen this reports and will have something to do when the bell rings.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 11, 2022, 02:54:56 PM

We don't have any conclusion yet, both fighters believes that they are the winner of their past 2 fights and again they will prove that inside the ring, whatever happens it will be our own eyes that will witness whether another robbed or another controversial decision will take place, or might be better if one will KO their opponent and wins the fight with no known issue.

The first two fights are debatable and before the decisions, on those two fights experts believe it could go either way, both camps are aware of this, and this fight is the fight that will settle the question of who is the better fighter, it's been four years since the last fight and in this third bout, it should settle who is the better one, I don't want the match to end in a draw or split decision, I like the fight to end in stoppage or knock out so the rivalry will be settled, GGG cannot afford a fourth fight as he is ripe for retirement.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 11, 2022, 02:41:52 PM

Quote from: cabron on September 11, 2022, 11:08:16 AM

Fans actually compared this to Marquez vs Pacquiao which a lot have doubted Juanma for he had lost several times and then unexpectedly put Pac to sleep. The two fought 3 times in the past they they already know what each would do in facing similar situation.

Who are these fans? Unlike in Canelo vs GGG where all of their fights resulted in a controversial result, Pacquiao vs Marquez series is not that criticize much as it's clear that most of their fights has won by Pacquiao. And to finally end it, Marquez did his best to KO Pacquiao.

Canelo on the other hand needs to make the fight looks that he is the clear winner so that no more controversies will be raised. GGG also needs to do the same. If the fight turned out to be closed match, judges should give a fair and square.

But as a respect to both boxer's effort to win, whatever the result, people should not question the result if the fight shows a real winner.

Well this is not the only forum where bettors discuss about boxing matches. Their point though is that GGG could spectacularly win the fight since he knows already how to handle Canelo after several fights they did in the past. The same as JMM and Pac who had been fighting many times.

While this could be possible, its chances is very slim for the ones overly thinking of GGG's age but this is also a fact compare to the prime Canelo.

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Quote from: goinmerry on September 11, 2022, 03:34:40 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 11, 2022, 02:54:56 PM

We don't have any conclusion yet, both fighters believes that they are the winner of their past 2 fights and again they will prove that inside the ring, whatever happens it will be our own eyes that will witness whether another robbed or another controversial decision will take place, or might be better if one will KO their opponent and wins the fight with no known issue.

This fight will end up in a controversial result if the fight is really close. However, what if the judges really give an equal judgement even the match is close. We should just accept whatever the result. I know most of us here wants GGG to win but if ever Canelo won and it's clear that he dominates GGG, it's time now to end the controversy since the first match.

Canelo is determined to erase all the doubts on those previous results, he will be the one that will be aggressive here.

i also have the feeling that if this fight is a close one, we will see a controversial result. GGG is the underdog, so he needs to show a clear winning points here. this is fast approaching and a lot of forum users are rooting for GGG. i'm also excited to watch this one. this maybe the deciding fight for GGG if he will retire or ask for another fight afterwards.

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And this is what GGG's training have to say in this fight:

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“I would like Triple G to be able to display more than one skill,” said Banks to NY Daily News. “He knows he has the punching power. I want the people to see his movement, his offense, his quickness.

https://www.boxingscene.com/banks-wants-golovkin-show-all-his-skills-not-just-power-against-canelo--168990

So are we going to see a different version of GGG in this trilogy fight against Canelo? His trainer wanted more from him, more movement and make the fight in the center of the ring. Against Murata, he shows some movement early on, but he didn't continue it maybe because he can take Murata's power that's why he go and brawl with him. So let's see if GGG can sustain his movement for full 12 rounds without gassing out.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 11, 2022, 02:41:52 PM

Quote from: cabron on September 11, 2022, 11:08:16 AM

Fans actually compared this to Marquez vs Pacquiao which a lot have doubted Juanma for he had lost several times and then unexpectedly put Pac to sleep. The two fought 3 times in the past they they already know what each would do in facing similar situation.

Who are these fans? Unlike in Canelo vs GGG where all of their fights resulted in a controversial result, Pacquiao vs Marquez series is not that criticize much as it's clear that most of their fights has won by Pacquiao. And to finally end it, Marquez did his best to KO Pacquiao.

Marquez fans are criticizing the result. I read somewhere that Marquez could have won the second and 3rd fight. While Pacquiao fans believe that Pacquiao won the 1st match. Which we can understand since there might be an element of biased on those comment. Other than that, it does not escalate as controversial issue like what happen ng the GGG - Canelo 1st and 2nd fight.

Quote from: agustina2 on September 11, 2022, 02:41:52 PM

Canelo on the other hand needs to make the fight looks that he is the clear winner so that no more controversies will be raised. GGG also needs to do the same. If the fight turned out to be closed match, judges should give a fair and square.

But as a respect to both boxer's effort to win, whatever the result, people should not question the result if the fight shows a real winner.

Indeed Canelo need to show the audience that he will dominate the fight and prove that the 1st and 2nd decision is not worth mentioning anymore.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 11, 2022, 02:54:56 PM

We don't have any conclusion yet, both fighters believes that they are the winner of their past 2 fights and again they will prove that inside the ring, whatever happens it will be our own eyes that will witness whether another robbed or another controversial decision will take place, or might be better if one will KO their opponent and wins the fight with no known issue.

This fight will end up in a controversial result if the fight is really close. However, what if the judges really give an equal judgement even the match is close. We should just accept whatever the result. I know most of us here wants GGG to win but if ever Canelo won and it's clear that he dominates GGG, it's time now to end the controversy since the first match.

Canelo is determined to erase all the doubts on those previous results, he will be the one that will be aggressive here.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 11, 2022, 09:27:12 AM

Quote from: bisdak40 on September 11, 2022, 09:22:39 AM

The fight is one week away and I'm very excited to see if GGG still has a few tricks in his bag to upset Canelo.

I hope he has some new tricks, otherwise, we cannot expect that he will win.

GGG is old, he can't take this game to 12 rounds, otherwise, he will be exhausted and Canelo will take advantage of that and that would result in another UD or SD win by him.

Looking at the other side, Canelo needs to make sure that he will use every advantage to corner GGG, I want to see the same Canelo who fought Bivol, though he lose that match but he shows that he is really aiming to win, it's just Bivol was fully prepared in every attempt of Canelo he always have that quick response and amazing quick hands to throw jabs and convert a good score punch.

Quote from: agustina2 on September 11, 2022, 02:41:52 PM

Quote from: cabron on September 11, 2022, 11:08:16 AM

Fans actually compared this to Marquez vs Pacquiao which a lot have doubted Juanma for he had lost several times and then unexpectedly put Pac to sleep. The two fought 3 times in the past they they already know what each would do in facing similar situation.

Who are these fans? Unlike in Canelo vs GGG where all of their fights resulted in a controversial result, Pacquiao vs Marquez series is not that criticize much as it's clear that most of their fights has won by Pacquiao. And to finally end it, Marquez did his best to KO Pacquiao.

Canelo on the other hand needs to make the fight looks that he is the clear winner so that no more controversies will be raised. GGG also needs to do the same. If the fight turned out to be closed match, judges should give a fair and square.

But as a respect to both boxer's effort to win, whatever the result, people should not question the result if the fight shows a real winner.

We don't have any conclusion yet, both fighters believes that they are the winner of their past 2 fights and again they will prove that inside the ring, whatever happens it will be our own eyes that will witness whether another robbed or another controversial decision will take place, or might be better if one will KO their opponent and wins the fight with no known issue.

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Quote from: cabron on September 11, 2022, 11:08:16 AM

Fans actually compared this to Marquez vs Pacquiao which a lot have doubted Juanma for he had lost several times and then unexpectedly put Pac to sleep. The two fought 3 times in the past they they already know what each would do in facing similar situation.

Who are these fans? Unlike in Canelo vs GGG where all of their fights resulted in a controversial result, Pacquiao vs Marquez series is not that criticize much as it's clear that most of their fights has won by Pacquiao. And to finally end it, Marquez did his best to KO Pacquiao.

Canelo on the other hand needs to make the fight looks that he is the clear winner so that no more controversies will be raised. GGG also needs to do the same. If the fight turned out to be closed match, judges should give a fair and square.

But as a respect to both boxer's effort to win, whatever the result, people should not question the result if the fight shows a real winner.

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Quote from: yazher on September 11, 2022, 10:27:45 AM

Quote from: Maslate on September 11, 2022, 09:27:12 AM

I hope he has some new tricks, otherwise, we cannot expect that he will win.

GGG is old, he can't take this game to 12 rounds, otherwise, he will be exhausted and Canelo will take advantage of that and that would result in another UD or SD win by him.

Can't wait for the fight we still have a week to wait and finally, we can watch the anticipated trilogy in boxing this year the fight is really unpredictable only when they fight in the ring we will know who has the advantage. In the meantime, GGG seems leading in terms of maybe due to his last fight and he never lost since then obviously he will not be like the last time they fought. this time would be different GGG a fully experienced fighter that is capable of beating Canelo as well.

Fans actually compared this to Marquez vs Pacquiao which a lot have doubted Juanma for he had lost several times and then unexpectedly put Pac to sleep. The two fought 3 times in the past they they already know what each would do in facing similar situation.

Fight will be next week. We don't know yet but maybe if GGG fights differently, time will be on his side.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 11, 2022, 09:27:12 AM

I hope he has some new tricks, otherwise, we cannot expect that he will win.

GGG is old, he can't take this game to 12 rounds, otherwise, he will be exhausted and Canelo will take advantage of that and that would result in another UD or SD win by him.

Can't wait for the fight we still have a week to wait and finally, we can watch the anticipated trilogy in boxing this year the fight is really unpredictable only when they fight in the ring we will know who has the advantage. In the meantime, GGG seems leading in terms of maybe due to his last fight and he never lost since then obviously he will not be like the last time they fought. this time would be different GGG a fully experienced fighter that is capable of beating Canelo as well.

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Quote from: Maslate on September 11, 2022, 09:27:12 AM

I hope he has some new tricks, otherwise, we cannot expect that he will win.

GGG is old, he can't take this game to 12 rounds, otherwise, he will be exhausted and Canelo will take advantage of that and that would result in another UD or SD win by him.

I don't expect GGG to have new tricks. I'm sure he won't bother experimenting with new tricks to beat Canelo.

What I'm expecting him to do is to rely on his usual performance, strategy, and strength. As always the priority, try to gain more points every round and try to maintain his defense all the time different from what he shows during the fight against Murata.

I'm agree with you that GGG might be exhausted if the fight last for long but Canelo, on the other hand, should also experience the same like as what happened during their 2 meetups. It's just that GGG will be the first one to show some fatigue as it's considered one of the disadvantages when aging even how well fit the person is. He already knows that for sure and might be currently working to improve his stamina as the priority in his training.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 11, 2022, 09:22:39 AM

The fight is one week away and I'm very excited to see if GGG still has a few tricks in his bag to upset Canelo.

I hope he has some new tricks, otherwise, we cannot expect that he will win.

GGG is old, he can't take this game to 12 rounds, otherwise, he will be exhausted and Canelo will take advantage of that and that would result in another UD or SD win by him.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on September 11, 2022, 06:05:48 AM

There is no doubt in my mind that this is going to be the last time that these two fighters will face off against each other.
So, this is the moment when the matter will be finally decided once and for all.

As for triple G, I think that he should actually retire since he is quite old at this point. In addition, I also think that he is still a good fighter, although I do not think that will be the case for the next 3 years or longer. So he should leave the game when he is on top.

In comparison to him, Canelo is quite a young man. His age is 32, and I think that he has at least three more years to go in his career before he retires. In all honesty, this has been a great rivalry, and I would like to see it come to a good end. So whatever the odds I will choose GGG in this fight.

I also think that this will be the last fight, a sort of retirement fight for GGG. If ever GGG loses this fight, there is nothing to be ashamed of, it's just that Canelo has his numbers but still if that slim possibility happens that GGG will win this fight then a fourth fight is very likely to happen.

As for Canelo, there is not much resistance or money fight in the 168lbs division so most likely he will exercise that rematch clause and fight Bivol (if he wins against Ramirez) and campaign in the LHW division where he would be the underdog against the top dog in this division.

The fight is one week away and I'm very excited to see if GGG still has a few tricks in his bag to upset Canelo.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on September 11, 2022, 06:05:48 AM

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If you think that GGG will win this fight then you have a chance to quadruple your money as the ML odds for this fight had it @4.6 for GGG while @1.16 for Canelo. The bookies think opposite the as they are putting Canelo as the heavy favorite due to age and performance I think. GGG's win against Murata wasn't impressive at least for me while Canelo was putting a typical Canelo show only that Bivol is the better, bigger, and smart fighter that night so he lost but against GGG, no doubt he will win (just my thought).

Attractive odds indeed for GGG, specially for those who wanted a live underdog. And based on the results of the votes, boxing fans wanted GGG to win. I personally haven't bet yet, and I might look for the round range, or maybe going to the distance, we will see.

As for next path that each one will take, for sure, their careers, will continue. But definitely they wanted to end their trilogy and move on.

There is no doubt in my mind that this is going to be the last time that these two fighters will face off against each other.
So, this is the moment when the matter will be finally decided once and for all.

As for triple G, I think that he should actually retire since he is quite old at this point. In addition, I also think that he is still a good fighter, although I do not think that will be the case for the next 3 years or longer. So he should leave the game when he is on top.

In comparison to him, Canelo is quite a young man. His age is 32, and I think that he has at least three more years to go in his career before he retires. In all honesty, this has been a great rivalry, and I would like to see it come to a good end. So whatever the odds I will choose GGG in this fight.

We can only speculate if GGG is going to retire after this fight or not. As I have said, they can go and continue with their career if they wanted to. And even if GGG is 40 years old and even if he losses, if he still feel that he can pull the trigger and beat the best of 160 lbs division then maybe he will go on. But Canelo, still in the prime of his career and maybe chasing another belt in 175 lbs after this fight and be a 5 division Mexican champion.

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Quote from: Balmain on September 11, 2022, 07:41:51 AM

GGG ok it's going to be hard to predict how he's going to fight at 40. On the other side is a Canelo who came from defeat. I think GGG will be in the ring fit and in good condition. Will they go to desicion or in the match here or will either of them break one of them. I think Canelo can do it, Tko. But I don't think the match will end with TKO. I think there are a lot of parameters that will be a good trilogy, I think both of them will not play risky, they will play each other equally to the points. Good fight night GG.

Most of the experts predicted that this fight will go to the judges' scorecards, or if there's a KO, it should be Canelo winning the fight. Yes, GGG is already 40 years old, but is it right to call him old? I don't think so, he won his previous fight and I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and he can entertain us in this fight.

This could be his retirement fight if he losses, so hopefully he will not.

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Canelo is heavily favored based on the betting odds.

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GGG ok it's going to be hard to predict how he's going to fight at 40. On the other side is a Canelo who came from defeat. I think GGG will be in the ring fit and in good condition. Will they go to desicion or in the match here or will either of them break one of them. I think Canelo can do it, Tko. But I don't think the match will end with TKO. I think there are a lot of parameters that will be a good trilogy, I think both of them will not play risky, they will play each other equally to the points. Good fight night GG.

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Well, in any case, the fight with Canelo for GGG may well be the last chance to motivate him to continue his career further, if he wins, of course, although he is not a favorite, but he is still dangerous even at the age of 40. In any case, we will see everything with our own eyes soon, I hope it will be a successful fight for GGG.

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