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GGG ok it's going to be hard to predict how he's going to fight at 40. On the other side is a Canelo who came from defeat. I think GGG will be in the ring fit and in good condition. Will they go to desicion or in the match here or will either of them break one of them. I think Canelo can do it, Tko. But I don't think the match will end with TKO. I think there are a lot of parameters that will be a good trilogy, I think both of them will not play risky, they will play each other equally to the points. Good fight night GG.
Most of the experts predicted that this fight will go to the judges' scorecards, or if there's a KO, it should be Canelo winning the fight. Yes, GGG is already 40 years old, but is it right to call him old? I don't think so, he won his previous fight and I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and he can entertain us in this fight.

This could be his retirement fight if he losses, so hopefully he will not.

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Canelo Alvarez vs Gennadiy Golovkin 3 odds

Favorite   Odds   Underdog   Odds
Canelo Alvarez   -500   Gennadiy Golovkin   +333
https://www.covers.com/boxing/canelo-alvarez-vs-gennady-golovkin-3-odds

Canelo is heavily favored based on the betting odds.

Well, Golovkin is not that agile anymore compared to his prime years but the thing about him is that he can still win fights because of the IQ he acquired throughout those years he's been fighting and Golovkin haven't tasted another defeat after Canelo. Also, those said experts are not that real expert in boxing nor can predict the outcome, those people are just self-proclaimed experts.

Still, I believe that Golovkin can still make Canelo struggle and can beat him, and based on that odds, betting on Golovkin quite tasty.
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These are the fights that the fans want to watch. It only makes sense if they want to get the most pay-per-view from these fights. But I don't think this fight is going to end as a draw.

Good Luck

Duke
Fans - that is the main and only reason why GGG is having this third fight. Lets be honest, he has proved already many times to everyone that he is one of the best boxers in our planet. I dont think he needs to prove anymore to anyone that he is the greatest.
There is no way GGG is winning this fight. Why? Because the fight is on the same day Mexicans will be celebrating Day of Mexico, because Canelo is to good to be KOed by GGG, because GGG is to good to be KOed by Canelo, because Canelos future career will be longer (promotion can milk him longer). Judges will once again make Canelo a winner. Split or UD.

The only way GGG could win this is KO.

I have to say that I agree with you on this one.
Because I also see the judges favouring Canelo if it does go to the judge's scorecard.

But I feel like it does not actually matter too much if GGG wins or loses this match. He is still going to be one of the best in the world.
If he loses this probably it is going to be a change in the armor for him and his legacy. But he will still have a special place in the heart of people.



Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

I really don't think cutting weight is going to cause him too much problems. After all, they are professional boxers and they should be used to this by now. It doesn't seem like this much difference in weight will have a significant impact on a fighter's skill. To be honest, there is really nothing to complain about from them. It won't be an upset for me to see Canelo lose. My personal preference is for GGG to win this fight.


Good Luck

Duke
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

Not Canelo, and his team know how to condition his body to go up or down and calculate the days before the fight, they do it gradually, Canelo need not drain his body, just like they do in a lower division when the body cannot drain any more fats in the body, 3.17515 kilos is easy to drain because he is natural in 168, so no effect at all in the condition of the body what will have an impact is the motivation and the mindset, this is a mind game because this is a trilogy, they will make right what they missed in their previous two fights.
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

But it's not a massive jump in weight and he has a lot of days to go back naturally to SMW division. It's not like the case of Roy Jones who went as high as Heavyweight and then his weight swinging around 168-175 lbs. And that was the beginning of the downfall of Roy Jones. For Canelo, it's negligible, he is still in his prime and could be walking around that weight without draining himself or changing his diet.
It will not affect him, they have trainers and nutritionists that will make sure Canelo will be healthy once he goes down in weight. It's an anticipated fight, so we don't want to hear some complaints from the camp of Canelo in case an upset is gonna happen here.
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?

But it's not a massive jump in weight and he has a lot of days to go back naturally to SMW division. It's not like the case of Roy Jones who went as high as Heavyweight and then his weight swinging around 168-175 lbs. And that was the beginning of the downfall of Roy Jones. For Canelo, it's negligible, he is still in his prime and could be walking around that weight without draining himself or changing his diet.
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Anyone thinks that Canelo weight swing from 168 to 175 to 168 lbs might affect his performance? There are fighters who jumps from one weight to another have been affected negatively.

So what about Canelo here? will he still be the same and dominant at super middleweight because this is his favorite and perfect weight class for him. No?
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It is very possible for Canelo to win over Golovkin by TKO or KO, but if you think that GGG would win over Canelo, it is better to bet on winning method than moneyline bet. GGG on moneyline has only 4.90 odds, whereas Golovkin winning by decision has 8.60 and him winning by knockout is 11.00. After all there are only two most probable ways for GGG to win, either by decision or knockout.

Draw is also interesting by the way knowing how the previous fights of these two boxers ended.

Draw is quite possible (similar to the first fight). If Golovkin somehow manages to KO Canelo, then it is his best chance for a win. Most of the neutral observers had Golovkin ahead by 116-112 or 117-111 in the first fight but the judges scored it as a draw. So Golovkin winning by UD or SD is near impossible given the bias from the judges. And that also explains why the odds are so unfavorable for Golovkin, despite both the boxers being equally good (at least in my opinion) and Golovkin having a better record against Canelo.

I share your observation that this will hardly go in favor of Golovkin if it isn't very obvious that he's winning. It might be different this time around but Canelo has really the bias of the judges. This happened in their previous matches and this happened in Canelo's latest match against Bivol. The scorecards had the fight very close when it was obvious it wasn't.

So if Golovkin wins by points, a draw is indeed a possibility.
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Since none of the fighters was never knocked out, I dont think such outcome is possible. Their close previous fights also indicate the KO is highly unlikely in that fight. Mark my words, it will be a decision once again, but this time it will be a unanimous but not split decision win by Canelo.

The only way Canelo could win by KO, is if this fight was sort of a finals and GGG was loosing by points and performed a risky attack. Since this is just a fight, and no matter what will be the result, they will get paid announced in contract amount, both of them wont risk a lot.
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It is very possible for Canelo to win over Golovkin by TKO or KO, but if you think that GGG would win over Canelo, it is better to bet on winning method than moneyline bet. GGG on moneyline has only 4.90 odds, whereas Golovkin winning by decision has 8.60 and him winning by knockout is 11.00. After all there are only two most probable ways for GGG to win, either by decision or knockout.

Draw is also interesting by the way knowing how the previous fights of these two boxers ended.

Draw is quite possible (similar to the first fight). If Golovkin somehow manages to KO Canelo, then it is his best chance for a win. Most of the neutral observers had Golovkin ahead by 116-112 or 117-111 in the first fight but the judges scored it as a draw. So Golovkin winning by UD or SD is near impossible given the bias from the judges. And that also explains why the odds are so unfavorable for Golovkin, despite both the boxers being equally good (at least in my opinion) and Golovkin having a better record against Canelo.
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
Good for you, and again, if we look at the voting here, I myself voted for GGG to win. And with that very attractive odds, then why not? At least you have your own decision and not be pressure because Canelo is the favorite and then there are predictions by former boxers who thinks that Canelo will win and probably score a stoppage either by TKO or KO but I doubt that Canelo can go that even if GGG is 40 years old.

It is very possible for Canelo to win over Golovkin by TKO or KO, but if you think that GGG would win over Canelo, it is better to bet on winning method than moneyline bet. GGG on moneyline has only 4.90 odds, whereas Golovkin winning by decision has 8.60 and him winning by knockout is 11.00. After all there are only two most probable ways for GGG to win, either by decision or knockout.

Draw is also interesting by the way knowing how the previous fights of these two boxers ended.
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
Good for you, and again, if we look at the voting here, I myself voted for GGG to win. And with that very attractive odds, then why not? At least you have your own decision and not be pressure because Canelo is the favorite and then there are predictions by former boxers who thinks that Canelo will win and probably score a stoppage either by TKO or KO but I doubt that Canelo can go that even if GGG is 40 years old.
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.

I will put my bet on GGG, I will not feel the pressure because the betting odds are good and I don't lose much in case GGG will lose. All I believe is that if GGG will lose, I'm sure I will still be entertain because GGG will never back down, and what if he got lucky here, upset is possible my friend.
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Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.

Depends on how the pressure from the bettors. As of this moment I see your point there's a huge amount of money who trusted Canelo.

Balance or maybe bookies seen that GGG's bettors are still with same weight of bets, we never know if on the day of the fight if there's big

bets for GGG that may affects the odd and maybe changes will take place, or if you can wait additional betting odds might be presented from

different gambling sites.
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These are the fights that the fans want to watch. It only makes sense if they want to get the most pay-per-view from these fights. But I don't think this fight is going to end as a draw.

Good Luck

Duke

Fans - that is the main and only reason why GGG is having this third fight. Lets be honest, he has proved already many times to everyone that he is one of the best boxers in our planet. I dont think he needs to prove anymore to anyone that he is the greatest.

There is no way GGG is winning this fight. Why? Because the fight is on the same day Mexicans will be celebrating Day of Mexico, because Canelo is to good to be KOed by GGG, because GGG is to good to be KOed by Canelo, because Canelos future career will be longer (promotion can milk him longer). Judges will once again make Canelo a winner. Split or UD. The only way GGG could win this is KO.
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3 nights to go and the odds for Canelo still play at @1.17 while GGG is @4.90.

Still a huge gap provided by the bookies but viewers are expecting a close-bout.

Well.. it looks as if the odds worsened further for Golovkin. A month or so ago, he was at 4.10. And that was when I placed a bet. It looks as if the sportsbooks are further adjusting the odds in face of increased bets from Canelo supporters. Else, I don't think that anything on ground has changed during the last 4 weeks. These odds doesn't make any sense. Let's remember that Golovkin win the first fight between the two (according to most neutral scorers), and the second one was too close to call. Given this, I don't think that Golovkin deserves odds of 4.90.

Barring asides those odds, maybe there are fans that are throwing enough money on him, but it was offset because of the huge money that is flowing on Canelo. Maybe whales are betting ML on Canelo with big amounts of money and then GGG fans, just good amount of bets.

And if we look at some of the predictions, they are leaning towards Canelo winning this fight so the odds won't change a bit as we gets closer to the fight night.
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And here are some keys to be able to see the streaming of these boxers, in case you are interested:

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I think only a few here will pay for a subscription just to watch the live stream. Anyways, I will try to put some links here that require no subscription if ever my source will share some links as usual when there's a big boxing match. Should be no problem posting it here.

3 nights to go and the odds for Canelo still play at @1.17 while GGG is @4.90.

Still a huge gap provided by the bookies but viewers are expecting a close-bout.

Well.. it looks as if the odds worsened further for Golovkin. A month or so ago, he was at 4.10. And that was when I placed a bet. It looks as if the sportsbooks are further adjusting the odds in face of increased bets from Canelo supporters. Else, I don't think that anything on ground has changed during the last 4 weeks. These odds doesn't make any sense. Let's remember that Golovkin win the first fight between the two (according to most neutral scorers), and the second one was too close to call. Given this, I don't think that Golovkin deserves odds of 4.90.
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I agree that a fourth fight should take place months after the trilogy as GGG is running out of time and it would be unfair for Canelo this time if he wins as he will be beating an old man.

Nothing is unfair. Golovkin wanted the trilogy fight in Q1 or Q2 2019. Alvarez delayed it giving the silliest of the excuses. He agreed to this fight after 3.5 years. If he gets beaten, then he can blame himself. GGG is already 40 years old. And he has nothing to lose. Even if he gets defeated, he can claim that he's not in his prime. That is not the case with Canelo. If somehow he gets beaten, then his entire reputation will be tarnished (especially after the refusal to fight in 2019). Canelo needs to be extremely careful. His career is at stake here.

I think this reputation has already been tarnished when he was the favorite against Bivol and then losing, and it should be by a wide margin, but the judges had to score it closer so that it won't look bad at Canelo's record. But we fans knows something is fishing with that kind of close scores and it almost robbed Bivol of winning.

But yeah, if he losses this one, then it might take sometime for Canelo to gain back. And if doesn't want a fourth fight and then goes directly to Bivol and losses again then for sure it will hit his legacy with 3 consecutive lost.
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And here are some keys to be able to see the streaming of these boxers, in case you are interested:

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I think only a few here will pay for a subscription just to watch the live stream. Anyways, I will try to put some links here that require no subscription if ever my source will share some links as usual when there's a big boxing match. Should be no problem posting it here.

3 nights to go and the odds for Canelo still play at @1.17 while GGG is @4.90.

Still a huge gap provided by the bookies but viewers are expecting a close-bout.
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but in boxing not everything is numbers and statistics, it's the real part, real life, and really even though both boxers have failed along their paths, it will be interesting to see this fight.
Thats true. This will be a great fight that we've been waiting for years.
Thanks to Canelo losing to Bivol, because if that didn't happen, we might not see this fight.

Possible, but I think when Canelo re-sign with Matchroom and DAZN, he knows that sooner or later this fight is going to happen regardless of the result of of his fight wit Bivol.

But the thing is, when Canelo losses that fight, it add an extra motivation for him to fight GGG because he knows that he can get back in track as the cash cow and p4p #1 with a victory here.

So we will see after this fight if Canelo will extend his contract again with Eddie Hearn and the DAZN.

A wise decision by Canelo, and that really was a blessing for us because we have been anticipating this fight and now it's coming into reality. Well, we all know that although Canelo won in their last fight, it's still not guaranteed that he will win here like what bookies are thinking, I like to believe that bookies are overvaluing Canelo in this fight.

About motivation? I'm pretty sure both fighters are motivated.

Same here, as if Canelo can have these fights if not because of Matchroom and DAZN. It will be wise to re-sign his contract with the same promoter because he will be just fighting B-class fighter if he decides to sign in other promoter. Also, DAZN did well in including GGG in the contract this year because Hearn knows that a trilogy will still be watched largely by people around the world even if GGG is somehow over his prime years already. Well, I hope that this time will be just and fair fight not just like their first two fights where Canelo has the favor.

It is very true, if this representative managed to fight against GGG, I do not see why he should change him, I do not know but I would stay with this one who is looking for high-level fighters and does not go with a type B who what he does is lower his level even more, for this fight for a trilogy is what people are always looking for, the fans are ecstatic about this, and the punters are on edge, this type of fight where without a doubt Canelo has favoritism and GGG is also a well-liked fighter, many will not know what to do, some out of pure heart will go for GGG, but Canelo can also move masses, ethnoces I think all this is fair in equal parts.

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I agree that a fourth fight should take place months after the trilogy as GGG is running out of time and it would be unfair for Canelo this time if he wins as he will be beating an old man.

Nothing is unfair. Golovkin wanted the trilogy fight in Q1 or Q2 2019. Alvarez delayed it giving the silliest of the excuses. He agreed to this fight after 3.5 years. If he gets beaten, then he can blame himself. GGG is already 40 years old. And he has nothing to lose. Even if he gets defeated, he can claim that he's not in his prime. That is not the case with Canelo. If somehow he gets beaten, then his entire reputation will be tarnished (especially after the refusal to fight in 2019). Canelo needs to be extremely careful. His career is at stake here.

Well there is something that we all know here, despite the fact that Canelo lost against Bivol, who is a very relevant boxer today, Canelo wants to get a victory against GGG, many speculate that they want GGG to win, many fans may like GGG, however I think the boxer will have many chances to do his thing, but GGG is a very good boxer and he will not let this happen.

This fight is about to take place as one of the most anticipated by the fans, honestly, it has been asking for a long time and it will finally happen.

I am a follower of these fights and I have looked at the least for videos of both, something that can give me information on each of the boxers, the bets are very divided, without a doubt it is a fight that will be the best of this 2022.



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Mon, September 12, 2022 at 11:28 AM·2 min read

There’s something about September at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. In 2017 and 2018, the venue hosted middleweight world titles fights between Saul “Canelo” Alvarez and Gennady Golovkin as autumn fell, and the same will be the case this year.

On Saturday night, Golovkin will look to prove his superiority over Canelo, having been denied what many observers feel were rightful wins against the Mexican in the rivals’ two previous encounters.



Source: https://news.yahoo.com/canelo-vs-ggg-3-undercard-152800698.html


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We don't know yet when he will retire, Pacman retired at the age of 42 years old, so there's still a chance for Golovkin in case the outcome is a draw or will favor him. Besides, it's always the body that will tell if a fighter can still fight, it's not the age.
But after he's losing the election to become president and got fired from political parties, he's already consider to comeback on boxing again, he will try to attend an exhibition fight and after that he said he will accept any professional fight [1]. I think he's crazy, he's currently 43 years old lol, if he's suffering an injury, it will not be easy for him due to old ages.

That is not the case with Canelo. If somehow he gets beaten, then his entire reputation will be tarnished (especially after the refusal to fight in 2019). Canelo needs to be extremely careful. His career is at stake here.
And the fight already get closer, 4 days more and we will see if Canelo can proving he's really a monster in super middleweight or his era already over.


[1] https://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/other-sport/boxing/manny-pacquiao-retirement-boxing-news-27552027
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