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Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.

It looks like this is the answer to Casimero's request since he stated that he was quite not satisfied with the fight against Akaho because it lasted only in 2nd round,  and he wanted to be satisfied on this fight, and yes the fight goes the long way into the hand of the judges.  I bet this time Casimero is fully satisfied with the length of the fight. Grin

Nghitumbwa is surprisingly tough since we had compared this guy against Tete which lead us to think that Tete is way tougher and better than NGhitumbwa but it looks like we are wrong with our assumption.  Regardless, Casimero wins and I also agree that this is a good opportunity to hunt boxers on the top ranking replacing them in their rankings.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

He still manage to win since Nghitumbwa also lost his air, he got knock out by casimero and he didn't get great response im return. But todays fight expose Casimero's weakness since he's throwing a lot of power pumch and that make him weak and cannot able to respond heavily until late rounds he seems to be so tired and that is a huge hole to get defeated by his next opponent if he didn't work those things.

I guess he's far to win with Inoue if he show the same performance like this but let see for sure there's improvement eill happen if he face a fast and more dominant fighter.

I wouldn't say he has been exposed, many great power punchers usually doesn't have a good gas tank. Take for example Thomas Hearns, he is known to be very powerful puncher, but if he can't hit the target he himself will be knockout cold.

But at least in this case, even if you say that Casimero doesn't have that gas tank, he was able to sustain the fight till 12 rounds. This boxers really need to hit their opponents so that there energy or power will not go to waste. But as others said, still a win for him.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

He still manage to win since Nghitumbwa also lost his air, he got knock out by casimero and he didn't get great response im return. But todays fight expose Casimero's weakness since he's throwing a lot of power pumch and that make him weak and cannot able to respond heavily until late rounds he seems to be so tired and that is a huge hole to get defeated by his next opponent if he didn't work those things.

I guess he's far to win with Inoue if he show the same performance like this but let see for sure there's improvement eill happen if he face a fast and more dominant fighter.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far

Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.

And that is what matters here, Casimero getting the belt because of his past hullabaloos.
Now, to prove he has still something to offer in this sports, he should excel in his upcoming fights.
Because reviving his popularity in this sports is no easy task, it should show from the results of his fights.
He's only 34 years old, he has still good number of years in this sports. But should lessen the issues like weight issues and all.
But should seriously train and comply with every requirement so as not to delay or pause his soon-to-be fights.
For Filipus, he can still continue his boxing career, this is just one hurdle in his career, he can very well get another belt.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
Casimero still managed to win though, I guess that moment when Casimero stop throwing punches saved him from this much, I agree that this is a total different fight from Casimero, but the result is still a win. He might be old already and that makes him slower but i think there’s still chance for him, he just need to train more and be active again. Fillipus is also a good boxer but its not enough to stay longer, he should have a better strategy.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far


Yes he is, Casimero threw everything but the kitchen sink there were rounds where Casimero stops throwing punches because he couldn't figure out what combination of punches should he throw to knock Nghitumbwa out, Casimero resorted to holding in the latter rounds because of fatigue.
What we've seen here is  Nghitumbwa  is a tough guy who can take a punch and Casimero should have more tune fights before fighting for a world title he is out of the ring for too long before this fight so there was little bit of rust and fatigue easily caught up with him.
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Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.

Yes, perhaps Nghitumbwa has a good chin and stamina and was able to withstand the power of Casimero early that's why he was able to get up from the canvass and surprisingly, lasted 12 rounds against the power of Casimero.

And it seems that this division is going to be tough as expected, this is just a acid test for Casimero and he pass it although we want to see a brutal KO to bring his career again. Nevertheless, a good second fight for him at 122 lbs, need more exposure though, a name fighter at super bantamweight so that he will be up in rankings again and possible for a crack on the title, whoever it was.

well, the good thing here is that casimero won the match. at least, a good motivation to find a bigger name in this weight division. because aiming for inoue has been paused at 118 lbs. and now that inoue is fighting in the 122-lb division, casimero can now checkout other names on this division and hopefully get the much anticipated fight with inoue. who knows? this may be a good start for him in this weight division.
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Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.

Yes, perhaps Nghitumbwa has a good chin and stamina and was able to withstand the power of Casimero early that's why he was able to get up from the canvass and surprisingly, lasted 12 rounds against the power of Casimero.

And it seems that this division is going to be tough as expected, this is just a acid test for Casimero and he pass it although we want to see a brutal KO to bring his career again. Nevertheless, a good second fight for him at 122 lbs, need more exposure though, a name fighter at super bantamweight so that he will be up in rankings again and possible for a crack on the title, whoever it was.
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Surprisingly Nghitumbwa lasted til the end of the fight. I find the referee wanting Nghitumbwa to go on fight right away without counting up to 8 when he was knockdown. Luckily Nghitumbwa survived the pounding.

But it's true it's not what people here expect to see a KO end in the early rounds. Nghitumbwa obviously has a bigger physique. Despite Casimero keeps targeting his gas tank, he stands the test. He didn't give an easy fight win for Casimero.
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I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa.
Well, that's the difference on how getting a higher weight division is so much harder than expected. Nghitumbwa has great stamina knowing he is on reigning on that weight division as he defend his title, feels like he even recovered instantly after that knockdown. But still a good fight for both fighters.
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the comments I've been reading about this fight are making me laugh a lot, honestly I asked myself: "what was that about?". I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa, without a doubt that with Casimiro's slow style, his bad performance, he's not on Inoue's level

When I look at this fight, I think about the following: Nghitumbwa doesn't have the good financial conditions that Casimiro has to have the best physical trainers, coaches, marketing agents, he doesn't have the whole system that top fighters or famous international fighters have, but he showed that even with his limited conditions he can fight on equal terms with an international fighter, I think that if Nghitumbwa gets a good physical trainer, coach and all the good financial conditions that international athletes have then he will easily beat Casimero and many top fighters, Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far

Yes you are right that mate we expected that Casimero will win in the early round but what we saw is a tired Casimero he almost lost in last round because of tiredness but always kudos to Nghitumbwa he is a tough boxer that almost he won by a KO because if nghitumbwa have a good solid punch then for sure he will win because we all know that the last round is a nghutumbwa round Casimero is tired enough so that's his chance but it beyond the expected.
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the comments I've been reading about this fight are making me laugh a lot, honestly I asked myself: "what was that about?". I mean, at least for me, Casimero was supposed to win easily in the first or second round and by knockout, but it's unbelievable that Casimiro didn't manage to win by knockout, he showed tiredness in the last rounds, he showed that he wouldn't be able to hold on any longer if the If the fight lasted much longer, Casimero would lose, he doesn't have more resistance than Nghitumbwa, without a doubt that with Casimiro's slow style, his bad performance, he's not on Inoue's level

When I look at this fight, I think about the following: Nghitumbwa doesn't have the good financial conditions that Casimiro has to have the best physical trainers, coaches, marketing agents, he doesn't have the whole system that top fighters or famous international fighters have , but he showed that even with his limited conditions he can fight on equal terms with an international fighter, I think that if Nghitumbwa gets a good physical trainer, coach and all the good financial conditions that international athletes have then he will easily beat Casimero and many top fighters, Fillipus Nghitumbwa is 27 years old and has good potential, he is a rough diamond that if he is well polished can go very far
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And the final score is 14-112, 116-110, 116-110. So it's very close fight based on that score.

But this is still a win for Casimero, not that outcome that fans of him wanted to see. But still a good case for him to be on another fight with a rank fighter to get him inch closer to a title fight.

Perhaps the fight being held in the Philippines will generate controversy. Casimero should have gone for a knockout, as it would have been his best chance at securing a high-profile fight. Many of us were mistaken in assuming that this would be an easy win for Casimero, given that he was up against an unknown boxer. However, considering the judges' scores, it is evident that he had to put in significant effort to claim victory.

So, what's next for Casimero?
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Its something many were not expecting it left me with the question is Nghitumbwa really that good or Casimero is having a hard time adjusting because of ring rust or inactivity, he was connecting but those punches that use to knock his opponents lack the sting, the killer instinct was diminished, usually when he hurt his opponent he goes all out but he is having a hard time finishing Nghitumbwa even if Nghitumbwa was badly hurt.
I like to agree that Inoue can easily beat him if the fights happen now, he needs to be more active in the ring and totally stop his social media activity and focus more on boxing.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.

Unexpected outcome, as most of the fans thinks that Casimero will easily KO Nghitumbwa.

The result is good for those who pick UD as the winning profits is decent, personally I was in the impression that Casimero will make a blowout but Nghitumbwa absorbing those solid punches and continue to stand up it's really a good way to challenge the greatness of
Casimero,

I value your opinion as how we witness the fight seems that Casimero will need some more tune up or if ever the organization
gives him that chance to challenge the champ. We never know what he might bring inside the ring. Congrats to all the winners!

Yes, I haven't watch the fight though, even some highlights, but from what I read Nghitumbwa was knock down by John Riel Casimero. And then there was a headbutt by Nghitumbwa, causing the ref to deduct one point form him.

And the final score is 14-112, 116-110, 116-110. So it's very close fight based on that score.

But this is still a win for Casimero, not that outcome that fans of him wanted to see. But still a good case for him to be on another fight with a rank fighter to get him inch closer to a title fight.
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Congratulations to the winners! Casimero winning by decision has higher odds than him winning by KO.

The odds was 5.40. I think we have a poster here who won his bet, I believe with was bisdak40.




A big win for Casimero but I agree, he's not that good anymore the way he moves in the ring, I still he's still lack of focus.
Anyway, a win is a win and probably this could be the start for Casimero to rise again because there's still a chance for him. I want to see the old Casimero, hope to see more fights with him as he reaches his goal to the top again, there's still time for him. Congrats to the bettors.

Perhaps he was distracted as he was training in the Philippines. Being close to his friends and family could really affect his concentration. However, since he has already won the fight, let's congratulate him while remaining hopeful for his impressive performance in the next fight.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.
A big win for Casimero but I agree, he's not that good anymore the way he moves in the ring, I still he's still lack of focus.
Anyway, a win is a win and probably this could be the start for Casimero to rise again because there's still a chance for him. I want to see the old Casimero, hope to see more fights with him as he reaches his goal to the top again, there's still time for him. Congrats to the bettors.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.

Unexpected outcome, as most of the fans thinks that Casimero will easily KO Nghitumbwa.

The result is good for those who pick UD as the winning profits is decent, personally I was in the impression that Casimero will make a blowout but Nghitumbwa absorbing those solid punches and continue to stand up it's really a good way to challenge the greatness of
Casimero,

I value your opinion as how we witness the fight seems that Casimero will need some more tune up or if ever the organization
gives him that chance to challenge the champ. We never know what he might bring inside the ring. Congrats to all the winners!

His opponent is tough, as he was still able to continue despite being knocked down. You're right, I think Casimero still needs more fights before getting into a championship fight. I hope his team also sees it that way. Although he won the fight, I don't find it impressive enough to grant him the opportunity to challenge the champion.

Congratulations to the winners! Casimero winning by decision has higher odds than him winning by KO.
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Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.

Unexpected outcome, as most of the fans thinks that Casimero will easily KO Nghitumbwa.

The result is good for those who pick UD as the winning profits is decent, personally I was in the impression that Casimero will make a blowout but Nghitumbwa absorbing those solid punches and continue to stand up it's really a good way to challenge the greatness of
Casimero,

I value your opinion as how we witness the fight seems that Casimero will need some more tune up or if ever the organization
gives him that chance to challenge the champ. We never know what he might bring inside the ring. Congrats to all the winners!
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Fillipus Nghitumbwah is a very tough customer for Casimero but Casimero still gets the win via a unanimous decision Scores were 114-112, 116-110, 116-110., Casimero scores a knockdown against Nghitumbwah and a point deduction for Nghitumbwah for a rabbit punch causing him the match, Casimero looks slow but still shows that he can still land big punches.
I think Casimero needs one or two more tune fights ring rust shows on this match he may not be ready for title match based on what he shows.
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