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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 08, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

^^ Yeah, he shouldn't have any problems making 122 lbs, it could really be his walking weight after all. Although boxers tend to gain more lbs during their off season, but at least Casimero doesn't need to shred more pounds unlike in 118 lbs wherein he really struggle in the last couple of years to make the weight and even lose the belt in the scale.

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

I agree, 122 lbs is no longer an issue for Casimero, unlike with 118 lbs where he struggles and loses his belts.

No longer in focus on how to lose weight, but with how he will execute his fighting strategy to make the
fight interesting for the fans who are waiting for his upcoming fight.

It's really a good venue for him to hype his name, though it's been long predicted that his advantage is
wide and the winning chance is high, but the outcome is still what the fans would like to see. An early K.O
with a very dominating fight as per my take.

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Quote from: Slow death on May 09, 2023, 01:47:10 PM

strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4

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strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 09, 2023, 10:26:20 AM

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 08, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

Here is the April ranking of the WBO. An impressive win over Nghitumbwa can give Casimero a big chance of fighting for the title next year or even this year is also possible. #1 Inoue is already facing the champion. #2 Aleem and #4 Goodman are already set to face each other in an IBF final eliminator. #3 Nery already won a WBC partial eliminator and is likely to face a final WBC eliminator or he could also become the WBC mandatory right away. This leaves #5 Casimero as the highest-ranked without a commitment to another organization or a scheduled opponent after Filippus.

The WBO and WBC belts though are already unified and the WBC might be the first to issue their mandatory next year. There's also the possible 4-belt unification between the winner of Inoue-Fulton and Tapales which may further prolong the chances of Casimero getting his title shot. But maybe if Inoue wins the WBO-WBC belt and WBA-IBF champion Tapales needs to face the Aleem vs Goodman winner next, Casimero might get picked.

Depends on the hype because we all know that organizers are much more leaning towards a fight who can give them more profits. Now, if Inoue will be successful enough and became the undisputed in this division, he will likely face Casimero first (given that Casimero have defeated his own opponent in the next few days) because I doubt that he will be given a mandatory title defense fight that early when he just got the belts under his possession.

Besides, if Casimero will be successful on his own path, I'm inclined that he may target the interim holders so that his chances to face the champion(s) will increase more. He surely knows that time is not on his side anymore and so it won't be helpful on his situation if he will just wait for any opportunity rather than working towards it.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 08, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

Here is the April ranking of the WBO. An impressive win over Nghitumbwa can give Casimero a big chance of fighting for the title next year or even this year is also possible. #1 Inoue is already facing the champion. #2 Aleem and #4 Goodman are already set to face each other in an IBF final eliminator. #3 Nery already won a WBC partial eliminator and is likely to face a final WBC eliminator or he could also become the WBC mandatory right away. This leaves #5 Casimero as the highest-ranked without a commitment to another organization or a scheduled opponent after Filippus.

The WBO and WBC belts though are already unified and the WBC might be the first to issue their mandatory next year. There's also the possible 4-belt unification between the winner of Inoue-Fulton and Tapales which may further prolong the chances of Casimero getting his title shot. But maybe if Inoue wins the WBO-WBC belt and WBA-IBF champion Tapales needs to face the Aleem vs Goodman winner next, Casimero might get picked.

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Quote from: Botnake on May 09, 2023, 06:46:21 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 08, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

Yes, we do hope that he has learn his lessons in the past, be professional and make the weight. And with that, he has wanted a lot of opportunities, including a fight with Inoue.

Anyhow, even non-Filipinos who has follow the sports of boxing knows what Casimero can bring in the table. He is a former champion after all and he need to win this one in front of his home town as I can see that he is being treated as as hero as well, similar to Manny Pacquiao. This is just another stepping stone for him and if he wins he then definitely he will again shake the division and call out high rank fighters in this division.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 08, 2023, 03:40:33 PM

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

He has moved up in weight, so he is comfortable in his current division. Casimero is likely to make weight without any problems, and we are lucky to see him perform at his best again in front of Filipinos. I can't wait to see this fight, and hopefully, our local channels will televise it for free.

Casimero is fighting a non-championship fight, which is quite new to us. We miss seeing him fight for a championship, but it is what it is now. He wasted his opportunity to become an undisputed champion, but we still support him to be successful again, as we don't have a lot of popular Filipino boxers in the world at the moment.

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^^ Yeah, he shouldn't have any problems making 122 lbs, it could really be his walking weight after all. Although boxers tend to gain more lbs during their off season, but at least Casimero doesn't need to shred more pounds unlike in 118 lbs wherein he really struggle in the last couple of years to make the weight and even lose the belt in the scale.

And in the Akaho fight, he make the weight without any issues so he will be fine now. It's just how he is going to be in this fight as everyone is expecting that he will score a knockout victory here.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 07, 2023, 06:07:07 PM

these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.

As always with a non-popular fight, odds are going to be released few days before the fight but rest assured that this will be covered by the bookies.

The tickets for the general admission for this fight is less that a hundred dollar and it's already sold out and last time I've heard that they added some tickets to cater to some fans that are eager to watch this fight. The venue could only accommodate a few hundred of people that's the reason why the general admission ticket is that high, though not too high but to ordinary Filipinos it's quite a lot of money.

^^ latest photo of Casimero I grabbed on his youtube channel and it seems he got no problem anymore making the scale.

Yes, it seems like we're right all along that Casimero shouldn't be having those issues again in this division. Though the difference is not that big at least that gave Casimero some leverage to be in his usual body weight and not so scraggy compared to what he have to endure back at 118 just to settle in with the weight but that didn't last long as it is already clear enough that the weight class is not for him anymore.

About the tickets, yes it's kind of expensive for normal people but talking about the venue where the fight will happen, it is also kind of reasonable enough because it is Okada Manila Hotel & Casino. Anyway, I sure do hope that there will be a live feed on this fight for free.

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Quote from: yazher on May 08, 2023, 08:27:43 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on April 27, 2023, 05:09:54 PM

MAIN EVENT
John Riel Casimero vs. Fillipus Nghitumbwa

UNDERCARDS
Takeshi Inoue vs. Weljon Mindoro
Jun Ikegawa vs. Carl Jammes Martin
Ayumu Hanada vs. Vince Paras

Looks like we have some decent undercard fights as well and these guys might be the next superstar in boxing they just need to show some impact in this one because this is their chance to shine since Casimero is famous enough to be watched with millions of viewers all around the world especially in Asia. It might be not the best opponent he could have but it is a chance to prove to himself he can beat anybody here in this weight class and he needs to be getting a stronger opponent than Nghitumbwa. I predict an early knockout because Casimero is hungry for a multimillion contract but in order to have that, he will need to win this amazingly than ever before.

Yep, the match for Inoue is quite interesting as well. Casimero needed to have the KO because as far as I know the opponent it not so well known in the mainstream but be has a good Track record for KO, most of his fight are came from KO. My vote will be for Casimero but he should be careful with Nghitumbwa, this guy has a good stats as well, this will be a good fight for both of them want to be known and want to be known more.

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Quote from: goinmerry on April 27, 2023, 05:09:54 PM

MAIN EVENT
John Riel Casimero vs. Fillipus Nghitumbwa

UNDERCARDS
Takeshi Inoue vs. Weljon Mindoro
Jun Ikegawa vs. Carl Jammes Martin
Ayumu Hanada vs. Vince Paras

Looks like we have some decent undercard fights as well and these guys might be the next superstar in boxing they just need to show some impact in this one because this is their chance to shine since Casimero is famous enough to be watched with millions of viewers all around the world especially in Asia. It might be not the best opponent he could have but it is a chance to prove to himself he can beat anybody here in this weight class and he needs to be getting a stronger opponent than Nghitumbwa. I predict an early knockout because Casimero is hungry for a multimillion contract but in order to have that, he will need to win this amazingly than ever before.

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Quote from: mirakal on May 07, 2023, 03:32:37 PM

In my local sportsbook, this bout was already listed about a week ago, but as of now, there are no betting options for this fight. Still waiting for it though.

John Riel Casimero - 1.12
Filipus Nghitumbwa - 8.4
Draw - 30

What sportsbook are you using? Those odds are crazy. I didn't expect Filipus Nghitumbwa to be the favorite, but I also didn't expect him to be this much of an underdog. Personally, I would bet on Casimero, but 1.12 is not attractive. Are there any other betting options where we can get higher odds, such as Casimero winning by KO in 1-3 rounds?

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on May 07, 2023, 06:07:07 PM

these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.

As always with a non-popular fight, odds are going to be released few days before the fight but rest assured that this will be covered by the bookies.

The tickets for the general admission for this fight is less that a hundred dollar and it's already sold out and last time I've heard that they added some tickets to cater to some fans that are eager to watch this fight. The venue could only accommodate a few hundred of people that's the reason why the general admission ticket is that high, though not too high but to ordinary Filipinos it's quite a lot of money.

^^ latest photo of Casimero I grabbed on his youtube channel and it seems he got no problem anymore making the scale.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 07, 2023, 03:00:35 PM

This homecoming fight is not very welcoming to the fans that want to watch him live though as the venue is in an expensive hotel-casino where tickets are expected to be very expensive. Only rich individuals can afford to watch this event. But most likely this can be shown live on local television channels for free. I don't have cable and antenna on my tv so I am rooting for the vloggers to show this live online. Cheesy

Filipino sports streamers are making money from streaming live boxing through donations so I will have no problem watching this fight, and you are right only rich ones can afford the price, but the promotions have a good reason why they will hold in casinos because this is not a championship fight and he is fighting unknown fighters and its hard to promote this fight in big arenas for a more affordable price, so the promoters opted for small arenas but expensive tickets and sponsorships.
Maybe after Casimero becomes a World Champion again his promoters can choose a big arena for his local fans.

these days, you have no problem watching it live if you know where to find free streaming services. and if not, just wait for the free uploads. seems that crypto bookies won't list this fight. not a big fight anyway.
such hotel venue is indeed an expensive one, so not for the masses. well, if the rich are willing to watch they can earn some money here. but casimero's name is waning down already. so he needs to win on this fight, else, his name will go down much deeper.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 07, 2023, 03:00:35 PM

This homecoming fight is not very welcoming to the fans that want to watch him live though as the venue is in an expensive hotel-casino where tickets are expected to be very expensive. Only rich individuals can afford to watch this event. But most likely this can be shown live on local television channels for free. I don't have cable and antenna on my tv so I am rooting for the vloggers to show this live online. Cheesy

Filipino sports streamers are making money from streaming live boxing through donations so I will have no problem watching this fight, and you are right only rich ones can afford the price, but the promotions have a good reason why they will hold in casinos because this is not a championship fight and he is fighting unknown fighters and its hard to promote this fight in big arenas for a more affordable price, so the promoters opted for small arenas but expensive tickets and sponsorships.
Maybe after Casimero becomes a World Champion again his promoters can choose a big arena for his local fans.

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Quote from: Botnake on May 06, 2023, 10:34:59 PM

Are there still no betting odds available for this fight? I have searched different sportsbooks, but I could not find any. I'm not sure of the reason behind it, but it's probably because this fight isn't as popular as championship fights.

The fight is less than a week away, so the odds should be available by now. Since they're not out yet, I'll check again a day before the fight.

For those who don't know where the fight will take place, it will be in the Philippines.

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FORMER world champion Johnriel Casimero makes a homecoming after four years as he takes on Filipus Nghitumbwa of Namibia at the Okada Resort Hotel on May 13.

Maybe you guessed it right, bookies are still not listing this fight because aside from the fact that it's not yet a championship fight, both participants are not that known especially Nghitumbwa or it's not gaining a lot of attention. Maybe 48 hours before the fight, they will.

In my local sportsbook, this bout was already listed about a week ago, but as of now, there are no betting options for this fight. Still waiting for it though.

John Riel Casimero - 1.12
Filipus Nghitumbwa - 8.4
Draw - 30

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Quote from: Botnake on May 06, 2023, 10:34:59 PM

Are there still no betting odds available for this fight? I have searched different sportsbooks, but I could not find any. I'm not sure of the reason behind it, but it's probably because this fight isn't as popular as championship fights.

The fight is less than a week away, so the odds should be available by now. Since they're not out yet, I'll check again a day before the fight.

For those who don't know where the fight will take place, it will be in the Philippines.

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FORMER world champion Johnriel Casimero makes a homecoming after four years as he takes on Filipus Nghitumbwa of Namibia at the Okada Resort Hotel on May 13.

Because this is just like a tune-up fight for Johnreil Casimero. I did notice earlier that Filippus is ranked #10 by the WBO and top 20 by another 1 or 2 sanctioning bodies. So this is not a bad pick at least and this is a homecoming fight of Casimero where it is hard and not cheap to let a world-ranked contender into enemy territory.

This homecoming fight is not very welcoming to the fans that want to watch him live though as the venue is in an expensive hotel-casino where tickets are expected to be very expensive. Only rich individuals can afford to watch this event. But most likely this can be shown live on local television channels for free. I don't have cable and antenna on my tv so I am rooting for the vloggers to show this live online. Cheesy

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 07, 2023, 12:58:09 AM

For me, John Riel Casimero should focus on some upper-rank bouts this will not surely add to his experience that much, but it will surely add up to his winning record, but for me a step-up fight for Casimero should be Luis Nery, or Ra'eese Aleem that is rank 3 and 2 in the WBO Super Bantamweight division, then after that focus on the IBF,

The problem is, those on the upper rank have nothing to gain if they will fight Casimero at this point. Casimero's camp really wants to push for a good fight in order to be recognized and climb the ranking but they are starting from scratch since entering the 122 lbs division. No choice but to accept fights even against a non-popular boxer.

Casimero needs to remain active in the ring for at least 2 fights per year regardless of the opponent as the goal is to be recognized. His debut fight on the 122 is against a low-tier boxer but with how Casimero shows dominance in that fight, the WBC has given him an 8th rank right away. The WBO also ranked him 5th.

If Casimero will show a dominant landslide victory, or much better a deadly KO win, he will surely again be recognized and will be given a much higher rank. One step closer to having a chance to fight those at the upper rank.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 07, 2023, 12:58:09 AM

Why does John Riel Casimero accept this fight? he's just going to walk through this guy and depending on the record he has he doesn't have any kind of heavy opponents at all, unlike John Riel Casimero that has Guillermo Rigondeaux, Duke Micah, Zolani Tete, and even Ryo Akaho that has 44 bouts in his record, while Fillipus Nghitumbwa all of his fight records was all from Namibia for sure this is not going to be an upset this is going to be a destruction of a rising talent I really think it is still not enough 13 bouts 12 KO's and 1 Lost,

For me, John Riel Casimero should focus on some upper-rank bouts this will not surely add to his experience that much, but it will surely add up to his winning record, but for me a step-up fight for Casimero should be Luis Nery, or Ra'eese Aleem that is rank 3 and 2 in the WBO Super Bantamweight division, then after that focus on the IBF,

He has a new manager, a Japanese match maker, so maybe they just want to take it slow. And as much as we wanted John Riel to fight for the belt, it's not gonna be easy for him right now as this is a new weight class for him. So he had to climb the ladder again.

So maybe after this one, they will look for a name opponents and maybe fight in the US. But I do agree, I'm liking Casimero against the likes of Luis Nery. They have been trash talking before so might be a good opportunity for John Riel to face him next after he wins against Nghitumbwa. And it would be better if Casimero wins by a knockout here so that he can go and become hype again.

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Why does John Riel Casimero accept this fight? he's just going to walk through this guy and depending on the record he has he doesn't have any kind of heavy opponents at all, unlike John Riel Casimero that has Guillermo Rigondeaux, Duke Micah, Zolani Tete, and even Ryo Akaho that has 44 bouts in his record, while Fillipus Nghitumbwa all of his fight records was all from Namibia for sure this is not going to be an upset this is going to be a destruction of a rising talent I really think it is still not enough 13 bouts 12 KO's and 1 Lost,

For me, John Riel Casimero should focus on some upper-rank bouts this will not surely add to his experience that much, but it will surely add up to his winning record, but for me a step-up fight for Casimero should be Luis Nery, or Ra'eese Aleem that is rank 3 and 2 in the WBO Super Bantamweight division, then after that focus on the IBF,

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