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Topic: [Boxing] Casimero vs Nghitumbwa (May 13) - page 3. (Read 1908 times)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoYbQI3LOIg&ab_channel=SkywalkerBoxing%23TWT

Above is the youtube link of the Casimeo vs Nghitumbwa fight.

Hope this will work to all of us here.

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end of round three and it seems that this is an exciting fight to watch as Nghitumbwa is also have some guts to brawl against Casimero.

Nghitumbwa absorbing some heavy blows there at the end of the round 5,
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I know that Casimero is looking forward to make some statement in this fight to make a huge climb in the ladder but I will not rule out the factor that Casimero's opponent might turn this into a survival game again.

Honestly, you have a good point there. Compare to an old Ryo Akaho (36 years old when he fought Casimero) that doesn't have the quickness and agile anymore to avoid Casimero's punches, the much younger Nghitumbwa (currently at 27 years old) might have the stamina to last until the final bell rang if the purpose is just to avoid Casimero's punches lol. Basically, won't bother to face Casimero toe-to-toe especially if the young Nghitumbwa feels the strength behind those punches.

However, Nghitumbwa just has to make sure not to get pulverized by Casimero's quick and strong punches in the early rounds as it will result in him not being able to last in the later rounds. Casimero is always known to be an aggressive boxer, right from the early rounds and that is the reason why most of his opponents are ended up almost out of gas in the later rounds.

Official weigh-in video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ivZEIBqgeA
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We have plenty of betting odds available here:


https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41184637-Nghitumbwa-Fillipus-vs-Casimero-John-Riel

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

It's a matter of how you trust Casimero here now, with that betting odds you will be able to pick whatever you think that Casimero
will be able to knock his opponent down.

One correct guess will give you a sweet outcome, though it's still a tough guess and upset still possible as we don't know what preparations did Nghitumbwa has done during his trainings.

Almost a fight night, one more day and we will witness Casimero back inside the ring! Good luck to all bettors.


Many options to choose from but it makes it even harder to choose Grin

I personally will bet on Casimero via decision @ 5.40 and throw some few for Casimero to finish the fight within 10-12 @ 6.40 .. I know that Casimero is looking forward to make some statement in this fight to make a huge climb in the ladder but I will not rule out the factor that Casimero's opponent might turn this into a survival game again. Just to be sure though that's why I took the decision and 10-12, but that's not even guaranteed hehe.
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We have plenty of betting odds available here:


https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41184637-Nghitumbwa-Fillipus-vs-Casimero-John-Riel

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

It's a matter of how you trust Casimero here now, with that betting odds you will be able to pick whatever you think that Casimero
will be able to knock his opponent down.

One correct guess will give you a sweet outcome, though it's still a tough guess and upset still possible as we don't know what preparations did Nghitumbwa has done during his trainings.

Almost a fight night, one more day and we will witness Casimero back inside the ring! Good luck to all bettors.
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We have plenty of betting odds available here:
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For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

Yup, this will end in a knockout but my confidence is very high that it would be Nghitumbwa who would end facing the canvass so for this is a gimme for all the Filipino boxing fans and bettors alike though the chance of an upset is still there but for it is just less than 1 percent.

Below is the weigh-in link, Casimero still got that "angas" in there lol which i think he could back by beating badly his opponent.

That odds of @6.40 for a knockout win on round 1-3 is quite interesting and maybe i'll put a few dollars on it but most of my money will be on the Casimero win via KO/TKO.

Why is that the tx fee now is too high?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMyLlDbfBuk&ab_channel=ManilaBulletinOnline

Yeah, saw this also in my Facebook, and Casimero still has that brandish style, but Nghitumbwa was not intimidated although later he try to shake the hands of Casimero. And it's also the first time that I saw Nghitumbwa, and the guy is taller. But we all know that Casimero has share the rings with taller boxer and it doesn't matter. What matter is that he still possesses that punching power to take down those tall and lanky boxer like Nghitumbwa.

Why not? That odds is very attractive and maybe Casimero if he will able to find that opening in early rounds might go for a KO/TKO just like what he did when he bet the much touted Zolani Tete (which is also very tall for him).
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We have plenty of betting odds available here:
~snip~

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.

Yup, this will end in a knockout but my confidence is very high that it would be Nghitumbwa who would end facing the canvass so for this is a gimme for all the Filipino boxing fans and bettors alike though the chance of an upset is still there but for it is just less than 1 percent.

Below is the weigh-in link, Casimero still got that "angas" in there lol which i think he could back by beating badly his opponent.

That odds of @6.40 for a knockout win on round 1-3 is quite interesting and maybe i'll put a few dollars on it but most of my money will be on the Casimero win via KO/TKO.

Why is that the tx fee now is too high?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMyLlDbfBuk&ab_channel=ManilaBulletinOnline
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We have plenty of betting odds available here:


https://duelbits.com/sportsbook/boxing/match/41184637-Nghitumbwa-Fillipus-vs-Casimero-John-Riel

For Casimero fans, this is what you've been waiting for. If you believe that he can knock out his opponent in 3 rounds, then the 1-3 range with odds of 6.40 is good for you. It's great that it's already available now, and I believe the outcome will be a KO since both boxers are capable of knocking out their opponents.
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stake has it already along with other 7 betting lines.



the odds is at 5.40 if casimero by decision, whereas casimero by ko is at 1.60. can casimero really dominate this fight? hope he can still attract crowd as his boxing career is on the brink of losing the spark. if he loses, don't know where he will pick-up from here.

It is highly likely that Casimero will win by KO, as he is a renowned KO artist. Additionally, I believe that Nghitumbwa will not be running throughout the fight, as that is not his reputation.

Looking at Nghitumbwa's record (https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/814162), we can see that he has achieved 11 KO victories in his last 12 fights. This speaks volumes about his aggressive style in the ring. Frankly, I would not be surprised if this fight ends early
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strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number.  

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4


Odds are out in sportsbet.io though, and you are just about right, Casimero ML is 1.31 and Nghitumbwa 3.4

And then the over/under round is 7.5, 1.94/1.84.

So everyone or at last majority who saw Casimero as the favorite is correct, he is 1:3 favorite against Nghitumbwa. So the ML bet is not that attractive, but at least in the over/under rounds is a good bet for us. If Casimero will land his signature power punches then I don't think that this fight is going to last long, and if we look at the odds, the under is the favorite. So this could be a value bet, IMHO.

stake has it already along with other 7 betting lines.



the odds is at 5.40 if casimero by decision, whereas casimero by ko is at 1.60. can casimero really dominate this fight? hope he can still attract crowd as his boxing career is on the brink of losing the spark. if he loses, don't know where he will pick-up from here.
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strange that there is still no option to bet on this fight at stake.com, even though there are only 4 days left for the fight to start, I don't understand why this option is not yet available, could it be that this has nothing to do with the little importance that this fight has or are they still thinking that Can something happen and the fight be postponed? well anyway if i can watch this fight i would definitely watch this fight and the reason is that i don't believe it will be a very long fight, i predict early KO and the fight will be over very soon, i'm still hoping that on the news site in Portuguese that I follow make analysis and comments about this fight

i predict the comments will be very funny, because the youtube comments about this fight make me laugh so much because the guys from namibia are convinced that the fighter from their country can win the fight, here comes the guys from philippines we all know that when when it comes to supporting their fighters they become very competitive in the comments on social media so it's funny to see Filipinos arguing with those from namibia and everything gets worse because Nghitumbwa is not a favorite and is not even taken very seriously by the commentators of the youtube channels i saw

Though their titles are global, they are unknown fighters whcih could be the reason. Strange still because stake normally list WBO fights.

This could easily be predicted since Casimero is the most experienced and still a WBO champion. A mismatch that we could say he picked this Filip for the number. 

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4


Odds are out in sportsbet.io though, and you are just about right, Casimero ML is 1.31 and Nghitumbwa 3.4

And then the over/under round is 7.5, 1.94/1.84.

So everyone or at last majority who saw Casimero as the favorite is correct, he is 1:3 favorite against Nghitumbwa. So the ML bet is not that attractive, but at least in the over/under rounds is a good bet for us. If Casimero will land his signature power punches then I don't think that this fight is going to last long, and if we look at the odds, the under is the favorite. So this could be a value bet, IMHO.
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^^ Odds for the fight are out and more options to bet.

For me, if you are a high roller and confident enough that Casimero would win this fight, that ML odds of @1.31 is very attractive, just like Drake (if i'm not wrong) betting 1M usd for Davis and won 375k in return, easy money isn't it?

Did he? Wow, that's a crazy bet again coming from the one and only Drake! Grin

This time he's fortunate enough and won a 375k profit from betting $1M because the last time, his bet for Jake Paul to knockout Tommy Fury did lost and that's worth a staggering $400k.

Anyway, back to the main topic, I can see that Casimero is indeed favored by the bookies and listing him @ 1.31 is decent enough but not for me because that's quite low. Decision @ 5.40 is juicy and I'll throw some few bucks towards him as a sign of support to our very own Filipino boxer.
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^^ Odds for the fight are out and more options to bet.

For me, if you are a high roller and confident enough that Casimero would win this fight, that ML odds of @1.31 is very attractive, just like Drake (if i'm not wrong) betting 1M usd for Davis and won 375k in return, easy money isn't it?
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3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

Slim chance indeed for Nghitumbwa, I was convinced about the odds after I watched his highlights. It looks like the guy is flat footed, won't move much and is always open. The kind of fighting style he's got will not gonna last 5 rounds in an international stage. If Nghitumbwa will not going to be careful against Casimero, this match will end up in a knockout victory for Casimero.
Most of the boxing analyst would probably have Casimero an easy win.
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https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel



It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.

I love the betting odds, and even though it's only 1.31 for Casimero, I don't mind because it's free money for me. Casimero, a former champion, is fighting an unknown boxer, and the chance of an upset is very slim. Therefore, I'm taking Casimero's money line without any doubt. Let's wait for the full market to be unlocked; at least we already have the money line bets available for now. It's also up on Sportsbet.
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wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel



It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight

3.4 for Nghitumbwa, which he has a slim chance but if luck favors him, he will indeed make a loud noise humiliating a top dog.  His next fight will be more challenging as well. He'll need more luck from his supporters.

Proving himself against the rest on top will be more challenging for a fighter who hasn't even tested fighting abroad. But who knows, almost all his fights ended in a KO.
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wow the odds are out on stake.com

https://stake.com/sports/boxing/international/international-matchups/43587054-nghitumbwa-fillipus-casimero-john-riel



It's strange that Casimero has an odd of @1.31 normally this odd value tends to be a trap, if Casimero had an odd of @1.10 I would be convinced that he would win this fight without any difficulties, but now that I see this odd then it means that the bookmakers are still not convinced that casimir will get an easy victory in this fight, probably the risk of him losing is medium in practice, but also betting on a fight like this and with odds of @1.31 doesn't seem to be viable, even that he wins the profit would not pay off unless one adds this fight to a multibet bet but that too would be very risky

anyway if Casimero loses in this fight then Nghitumbwa will become very famous and will start to attract a lot of attention in the Boxing world so this fight is more important for Nghitumbwa than a victory here he will climb many steps on the ladder of fame and will also feel more confident that he can beat more international fighters, however in case he loses here in a humiliating way he will be a joke, people even before he fights laugh at him and don't see him winning this fight, so if he loses everyone will he'll laugh a lot, of course he'll feel bad but it's a risk he took the moment he agreed to fight
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Depends on the hype because we all know that organizers are much more leaning towards a fight who can give them more profits. Now, if Inoue will be successful enough and became the undisputed in this division, he will likely face Casimero first (given that Casimero have defeated his own opponent in the next few days) because I doubt that he will be given a mandatory title defense fight that early when he just got the belts under his possession.

Well, it is not uncommon in boxing that a new champion will be facing a mandatory right away. Before, the IBF is notorious for strictly imposing its mandatories and doesn't even care if the champion is unified or a superstar.

Inoue's main priority, if he beats Fulton, is to become undisputed so it means Tapales. Tapales also said that if he is going to choose his next opponent, it will be Inoue. Hopefully, none of these sanctioning bodies will issue a mandatory right away so can see another undisputed champion. The IBF final eliminator between Aleem and Goodman happens next month so the mandate will be issued late this year or early next year. But I'm expecting the IBF to postpone the mandate if Tapales is facing Inoue for the undisputed belts. 

Besides, if Casimero will be successful on his own path, I'm inclined that he may target the interim holders so that his chances to face the champion(s) will increase more. He surely knows that time is not on his side anymore and so it won't be helpful on his situation if he will just wait for any opportunity rather than working towards it.

The good thing about this division is that there are no current fake and paper champions. The division is free from garbage interims and regular belts. So everything is straightforward here.
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I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.
Even the odds will be out, it's not worth to bet Casimero because he should become a huge favorite like was been mentioned by @mirakal, I don't think there's a big difference either the international bookie and local bookie. But since the moneyline still not yet available, I doubt if we will see other betting option.
We don't necessarily need to bet on the moneyline, especially if Casimero is a heavy favorite, as that won't give us much return. Some bookies offer betting on rounds or ranges of every three rounds, and we can try to guess which particular range Casimero will win by KO. I've seen this many times already, and the odds can be really high, so we just need to be good at guessing.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4
It's too low, if Casimero odds is 1.3, the odds for Ngitumbwa should be around 3.00 - 5.00.

Is it really 1.30? I think that's still high. I was expecting his odds to be around 1.10 at most, or maybe 1.20.
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I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.
Even the odds will be out, it's not worth to bet Casimero because he should become a huge favorite like was been mentioned by @mirakal, I don't think there's a big difference either the international bookie and local bookie. But since the moneyline still not yet available, I doubt if we will see other betting option.

If I have to be the bookmaker, my odd will be Casimero 1.3 vs Ngitumbwa 2.4
It's too low, if Casimero odds is 1.3, the odds for Ngitumbwa should be around 3.00 - 5.00.
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It's really a good venue for him to hype his name, though it's been long predicted that his advantage is
wide and the winning chance is high, but the outcome is still what the fans would like to see. An early K.O
with a very dominating fight as per my take.

I am expecting the same, so I would like to see the odds for that so I can bet early. Unfortunately, as of today, the odds are still not available, so I cannot place my bet yet. This fight will be on Sunday in the Philippines, so people will have free time to watch it. But, as a fan, I also like to bet, so hopefully, the odds will be out by Saturday.
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