Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match (Read 3619 times)
April 18, 2022, 07:01:21 PM
Locking the thread now.
We can now take the discussions involving the possibility of Crawford vs Spence on another thread in the future if any.
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Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas
Date: April 16, 2022
Venue: AT&T Stadium, Arlington, Texas, U.S.
Title(s) on the line: WBA (Super), WBC, and IBF welterweight titles
Result: Errol Spence Jr. wins via 10th round TKO
April 18, 2022, 06:46:29 PM
Now that both Spence and Crawford have spoken about their most awaited fight, it will just be a matter of weeks before there will be some news that both camps are on a discussion now.
I think bookies will slightly favor Errol here as he is holding more belts than Crawford. All are talking about Errol's next fight but was just wondering what will happen to Ugas now? It seems that people are forgetting his existence after this fight.
But in fairness to Ugas, he put up a good fight with Spence Jr.Ugas can still go and fight in this division and he can beat anyone not name Spence or Crawford. I will even give some advantage on him if he is going to face Thurman next. It's that Spence is the best fighter in this division so it's hard to beat him at this point.
April 18, 2022, 06:44:42 PM
I was expecting that this is going to be a close fight, but no. However it is quite entertaining, but It could've been more entertaining If Ugas didn't held too much of his punches, but Errol's punch is really punishing him and it's very evident on his face lol.
for me its a close fight, because even spence, he felt dizzy when he was corner in round 6 if i am not mistaken.. And this fight is really expected to be a closed fight because they have both have good chin, stamina but unfortunately the face of ugas is not good that's why it ended by KO. April 18, 2022, 06:44:01 PM
Now that both Spence and Crawford have spoken about their most awaited fight, it will just be a matter of weeks before there will be some news that both camps are on a discussion now.
I think bookies will slightly favor Errol here as he is holding more belts than Crawford. All are talking about Errol's next fight but was just wondering what will happen to Ugas now? It seems that people are forgetting his existence after this fight.
But in fairness to Ugas, he put up a good fight with Spence Jr.The choice between Crawford and Spence on who will be favored to win is a hard choice even for boxing experts, there's no reason why the fight will not push through, they both ask for it, they will be the laughing stock of the boxing community if they cannot walk their talk, they push themselves through it.
April 18, 2022, 06:19:41 PM
Now that both Spence and Crawford have spoken about their most awaited fight, it will just be a matter of weeks before there will be some news that both camps are on a discussion now.
I think bookies will slightly favor Errol here as he is holding more belts than Crawford. All are talking about Errol's next fight but was just wondering what will happen to Ugas now? It seems that people are forgetting his existence after this fight.
But in fairness to Ugas, he put up a good fight with Spence Jr. 
April 18, 2022, 06:13:19 PM
Wow, congrats to Errol Spence for stopping the very tough Ugas. If not for that swelled eyes it could have reached the twelve rounds. That work rate of Errol Spence is so amazing, relentlessly throwing uppercuts that cause the swelling of the eyes of Ugas.
Now, the unification fight for welterweight belts should happen this year or the next as the two protagonists are still in their primes.
If the fight would happen this year, I would favor slightly Errol Spence with the performance he was showing today.
Now, the unification fight for welterweight belts should happen this year or the next as the two protagonists are still in their primes.
If the fight would happen this year, I would favor slightly Errol Spence with the performance he was showing today.
It's really a complete domination on the side of Spence from the first round. As his trainer/coach said, this could be the best version of Spence before the fight and that's why I put a bet on him winning by KO.
Congrats bro, i didn't see it coming. My reference for putting my on "Spence to win via Decision" was Spence last fight against Danny Garcia where the volume of punches he threw was not like this recent fight.
I just literally put my bet literally minutes before the actual fight. I'm leaning towards Spence winning by decision, but I have a feeling that it will be a different Spence as per his trainer/coach and so I have him to win by TKO/KO or by stoppage by round 10. Could have bet on the round range as well, but still a win is a win.
April 18, 2022, 05:54:20 PM
Now that both Spence and Crawford have spoken about their most awaited fight, it will just be a matter of weeks before there will be some news that both camps are on a discussion now.
April 18, 2022, 10:10:36 AM
Anyhow, I would agree that this is a very good performance by Spence. He doesn't need to go to 154 lbs, just stay in this division and then face Crawford next. No need to talk about the purse split, he can have 60% of it and hopefully Crawford will agree because he thinks he can beat Spence.
That's the story now, a 60/40 split in favor of Spence has to be realized if we want to see this fight happening. Now, that Spence is officially back and proves that he is still the same person after everything, then Crawford should speak early so we will not expect if he would not agree with the sharing.
Now that both Spence and Crawford have spoken about their most awaited fight, it will just be a matter of weeks before there will be some news that both camps are on a discussion now.
April 18, 2022, 09:37:20 AM
I missed this fight as I preferred to go out of town. Also it is hard to imagine light punching Ugas beating Spence in his own backyard. Just now, I realized the undercard was for the WBA regular Butaev vs Stanionis. Thought this fight is happening this coming weekend. What a bummer! These guys are mf warriors. Along with another undefeated knockout-artists Vergil Ortiz and Jaron Ennis they will be the next generation of welterweights and it will be exciting. That is why we need Crawford-Spence to happen this year or these young guns will become mandatories sooner than later. F*k PBC if they want Crawford to fight Danny Garcia first. This fight is too marinated over the years. Floyd Mayweather jr. wanted to sign Bud. I am not sure if Floyd will be helpful on Bud's remaining years but if it guarantees a Spence bout this year then maybe it is good enough.
April 18, 2022, 09:03:59 AM
Nope we can say its different because Pacquaio camp is well prepared against Spence and we know his fight is originally schedule with Spence and not with Ugas. Ugas name has pop up surprisingly when Spence cannot make it due to some issue so the preparation time of Pacquaio against Ugas at that time is short so that's affect the whole fight since he didn't scout well his opponent.
Pacman could have said no to Ugas if he doesn't feel he will win. Actually, Pacman has already passed his prime, so it's understandable that he would lose to a younger and stronger fighter, that's alright mate, he already retired, no need to discuss what happened with the "IFS" and everything. Ugas won that fight clearly, while Ugas lose to Spence clearly as well.
Good point, lets move forward and now the next thing is if we would hear noise or rumors between Crawford and Spence or there's still another fight that may take place before these two world champ will finally meet inside the ring, for now, let's give Spence time to celebrate as he brings that amazing strength and dominance against Ugas.
Time to celebrate for Bettors/gamblers who managed to bet for Spence, either ML or KO odds very nice win and very entertaining as we have seen it from the face of both fighters.
April 18, 2022, 08:47:31 AM
I know that Spence will be dominant but not so dominant that he can win by a technical knock out I lose a bet with the results nevertheless I'm happy that Spence is calling out Crawford the same thing happens when Crawford wins against Porter he is calling out Spence, so we will not count the days when they will sign a contract for the unification bout, everybody expects this to happen this year.
April 18, 2022, 08:36:49 AM
Spence said that "we all know who I am coming next and it's what the people want" and then he mentioned that he is coming for Crawford. We will see some update soon regarding about their fight.
He should keep his words Crawford also wanted him badly, these two should have fought last year, there are so many accusations and excuses in both camps, Crawford makes it appear that Spence doesn't want to fight him and so is Spence if this year if there is no final contract signing, then these two boxers really don't want to settle things in the ring and they are all just talks.
The important thing is that this time the Spence vs Crawford fight is slowly turning into reality as both of them have already spoke about it, well hopefully this time around it will happen with no issues and excuses about this and that.
April 18, 2022, 08:24:38 AM
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Congratulations to Errol Spence what he have shown inside the ring a while ago is definitely a great fight that was worth to watch for. And indeed, Spence is far different to Pacquiao and he shows us a solid performance that leads to his victory via knock out against Ugas. I mean for me there's no point of comparing the two fighter between Spence and Pacquiao both are good fighter in their respective timeline. Now, I am very sure that this is a great milestone to Spence career, however, I must think that Spence vs. Crawford is kind of an anticipated fight if given a chance.
Nah, they're not just a "good" fighter, they are one of the few "best" fighters.
And "Spence is far different to Pacquiao", that's basically comparing lol. But I could be wrong by what you meant by that statement.
On the other hand, I didn't expect Errol to deliver such a great performance. I was expecting that this is going to be a close fight, but no. However it is quite entertaining, but It could've been more entertaining If Ugas didn't held too much of his punches, but Errol's punch is really punishing him and it's very evident on his face lol.
IMO, it was a close fight because there are some times that Spence gets hit hard by Ugas, at some point he was even almost KO if the refs did not play a dirty game. At this fight, it was pretty evident that Spence has better stamina and he has move volume punches compared to Ugas.
I can't even imagine if it was Spence who fought Pacman, for sure Pacman will be KO with the way he fought with Ugas.
I can completely understand why Spence was so aggressive even if it was still on the 1st round, he is trying to gas out Ugas by giving him a barrage of punches either on the body or face while Ugas is definitely hurting even if he is covering his face. Spence tried to get as close as he could to Ugas to avoid counter punch as he know that he cannot land a solid good punch if he's keeping his distance because Ugas's have the reach advantage. Although Spence was hurt badly on the 6th round but he bounced back well.
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I can't even imagine if it was Spence who fought Pacman, for sure Pacman will be KO with the way he fought with Ugas.
I also gave a thought about that, what if Spence didn't got injured last time? He could have badly hurt Pacquiao for sure or worse a KO. April 18, 2022, 08:15:12 AM
Nope we can say its different because Pacquaio camp is well prepared against Spence and we know his fight is originally schedule with Spence and not with Ugas. Ugas name has pop up surprisingly when Spence cannot make it due to some issue so the preparation time of Pacquaio against Ugas at that time is short so that's affect the whole fight since he didn't scout well his opponent.
Pacman could have said no to Ugas if he doesn't feel he will win. Actually, Pacman has already passed his prime, so it's understandable that he would lose to a younger and stronger fighter, that's alright mate, he already retired, no need to discuss what happened with the "IFS" and everything. Ugas won that fight clearly, while Ugas lose to Spence clearly as well.
April 18, 2022, 08:06:58 AM
~snip~
Congratulations to Errol Spence what he have shown inside the ring a while ago is definitely a great fight that was worth to watch for. And indeed, Spence is far different to Pacquiao and he shows us a solid performance that leads to his victory via knock out against Ugas. I mean for me there's no point of comparing the two fighter between Spence and Pacquiao both are good fighter in their respective timeline. Now, I am very sure that this is a great milestone to Spence career, however, I must think that Spence vs. Crawford is kind of an anticipated fight if given a chance.
Nah, they're not just a "good" fighter, they are one of the few "best" fighters.
And "Spence is far different to Pacquiao", that's basically comparing lol. But I could be wrong by what you meant by that statement.
On the other hand, I didn't expect Errol to deliver such a great performance. I was expecting that this is going to be a close fight, but no. However it is quite entertaining, but It could've been more entertaining If Ugas didn't held too much of his punches, but Errol's punch is really punishing him and it's very evident on his face lol.
Nope we can say its different because Pacquaio camp is well prepared against Spence and we know his fight is originally schedule with Spence and not with Ugas. Ugas name has pop up surprisingly when Spence cannot make it due to some issue so the preparation time of Pacquaio against Ugas at that time is short so that's affect the whole fight since he didn't scout well his opponent.
April 18, 2022, 07:51:55 AM
^^ We can't really say for certain, what if it will be a different version of Pacman who also showed up against Spence in that fight?
So definitely that's a lot of 'IF' and questions if that fight push through and who will eventually win.
But for now, Spence is in the top of the welterweight division now with this huge win against Ugas and the way he defeated him, not seeing anyone that can touch him, not even Crawford in my opinion.
So definitely that's a lot of 'IF' and questions if that fight push through and who will eventually win.
But for now, Spence is in the top of the welterweight division now with this huge win against Ugas and the way he defeated him, not seeing anyone that can touch him, not even Crawford in my opinion.
That's a strong Spence out there. Even Ugas still wants to continue, but by looking at his face he might endanger his health.
Those solid conversions coming from Spence really hurt Ugas as expected. He will really try to overpower Ugas, and that's how the turnaround
of this fight, Ugas made good conversions as well but Spence is still young and his body is more stronger in my opinion, he recover right away
and start throwing back and notice that body shots and a combo will give him the win.
April 18, 2022, 05:45:50 AM
^^ We can't really say for certain, what if it will be a different version of Pacman who also showed up against Spence in that fight?
So definitely that's a lot of 'IF' and questions if that fight push through and who will eventually win.
But for now, Spence is in the top of the welterweight division now with this huge win against Ugas and the way he defeated him, not seeing anyone that can touch him, not even Crawford in my opinion.
So definitely that's a lot of 'IF' and questions if that fight push through and who will eventually win.
But for now, Spence is in the top of the welterweight division now with this huge win against Ugas and the way he defeated him, not seeing anyone that can touch him, not even Crawford in my opinion.
April 18, 2022, 04:33:43 AM
~snip~
Congratulations to Errol Spence what he have shown inside the ring a while ago is definitely a great fight that was worth to watch for. And indeed, Spence is far different to Pacquiao and he shows us a solid performance that leads to his victory via knock out against Ugas. I mean for me there's no point of comparing the two fighter between Spence and Pacquiao both are good fighter in their respective timeline. Now, I am very sure that this is a great milestone to Spence career, however, I must think that Spence vs. Crawford is kind of an anticipated fight if given a chance.
Nah, they're not just a "good" fighter, they are one of the few "best" fighters.
And "Spence is far different to Pacquiao", that's basically comparing lol. But I could be wrong by what you meant by that statement.
On the other hand, I didn't expect Errol to deliver such a great performance. I was expecting that this is going to be a close fight, but no. However it is quite entertaining, but It could've been more entertaining If Ugas didn't held too much of his punches, but Errol's punch is really punishing him and it's very evident on his face lol.
IMO, it was a close fight because there are some times that Spence gets hit hard by Ugas, at some point he was even almost KO if the refs did not play a dirty game. At this fight, it was pretty evident that Spence has better stamina and he has move volume punches compared to Ugas.
I can't even imagine if it was Spence who fought Pacman, for sure Pacman will be KO with the way he fought with Ugas.
April 18, 2022, 04:13:11 AM
~snip~
Congratulations to Errol Spence what he have shown inside the ring a while ago is definitely a great fight that was worth to watch for. And indeed, Spence is far different to Pacquiao and he shows us a solid performance that leads to his victory via knock out against Ugas. I mean for me there's no point of comparing the two fighter between Spence and Pacquiao both are good fighter in their respective timeline. Now, I am very sure that this is a great milestone to Spence career, however, I must think that Spence vs. Crawford is kind of an anticipated fight if given a chance.
Nah, they're not just a "good" fighter, they are one of the few "best" fighters.
And "Spence is far different to Pacquiao", that's basically comparing lol. But I could be wrong by what you meant by that statement.
On the other hand, I didn't expect Errol to deliver such a great performance. I was expecting that this is going to be a close fight, but no. However it is quite entertaining, but It could've been more entertaining If Ugas didn't held too much of his punches, but Errol's punch is really punishing him and it's very evident on his face lol.
April 18, 2022, 02:16:16 AM
Spence is holding plenty of belts, maybe 60% of the total split is justifiable for him.
Not bad at all, I guess would agree with that split, 40 for him, 60 for Spence, besides, if he could beat Spence he will be the undisputed champion if I'm not mistaken. This fight should be realize to grant the wish of the fans, no other boxers that could fight the two best fighters now that would make the fans excited to watch.
Crawford's camp thinks that their boxer is too much fame and popular if his camp disagrees with the 60/40 split. Spence has the right to ask for that and he can even make it 70/30 if he will push for a big demand. There's only 1 title that Crawford holds and requesting for a 50/50 is totally non-sense and not appropriate.
Spence can ignore Crawford if they will insist on that as from the very beginning, he is not interested at all and can move up a weight. Easy as that.
But as far as browsing some reports, there's no mention that Crawford likes 50/50 and will just allow his promoter to do the negotiation.
70/30 I think is still too much, prior to the win of Spence, Crawford is the number 1 pound for pound of ring magazine, so I don't really think he would go for that 70/30, 60/40 should be the last offer. Spence should be fair here, we all know that he attracts the crowd, but show some respect to his fellow champion.
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