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Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 4. (Read 3674 times)

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Here is the official weigh-in guys:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz7TcVx0xdE

Both make the weight easily, both have their belts on their shoulder, but come fight night only one guy will make it out with those 3 belts.
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I haven't thought of betting on the "DRAW", but looking at the odds, that attracts me. I would consider putting some money on the "DRAW" result, who knows, if this will be a close fight, remath could be possible, and the anticipated fight between Spence and Crawford will be delayed.

And once luck permits you to win, that would be a very nice odd for you.

Not sure if that may happen since Spence is a very aggressive fighter. If he manages to break Ugas, defense he will not stop
to keep throwing solid punches, Ugas though on the other hand needs not just to wait for a counter but instead he needs
also to create his own attack, surprising Spence that he's not just good for countering but also with attacking and aiming
for a solid conversion.

It could be a stylistic match up for Spence, nevertheless if he can stay aggressive then he can win in the judges scorecard.

I don't see him breaking down the defense of Ugas, he is a defensive fighter, what Spence can do is try to impress the judges with his aggressive every round. As I don't see him winning by a knock out against a defensive fighter. And I'm feeling that we are going to see a more well balance Spence in this fight, a better version of him.
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I haven't thought of betting on the "DRAW", but looking at the odds, that attracts me. I would consider putting some money on the "DRAW" result, who knows, if this will be a close fight, remath could be possible, and the anticipated fight between Spence and Crawford will be delayed.

And once luck permits you to win, that would be a very nice odd for you.

Not sure if that may happen since Spence is a very aggressive fighter. If he manages to break Ugas, defense he will not stop
to keep throwing solid punches, Ugas though on the other hand needs not just to wait for a counter but instead he needs
also to create his own attack, surprising Spence that he's not just good for countering but also with attacking and aiming
for a solid conversion.
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For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.



Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.

You have a point mate, it is worth it to put a few dollars on the "draw" option, and the bulk of our bet will be in the "Spence via Decision win".

When Ugas fought Manny Pacquiao, I thought that the former is too slow for Manny but the opposite happened, Manny was the one who could not avoid those crispy jabs of Ugas and I lose my bet on that fight not because I underestimated Ugas but because of putting too much premium on Manny's fight against Thurman.

Come Saturday's fight, Ugas will be the old man, and the amount of money involve for the much-awaited Welterweight unification between Crawford vs Spence is too big then i think Spence will pocket the "W" here.



I haven't thought of betting on the "DRAW", but looking at the odds, that attracts me. I would consider putting some money on the "DRAW" result, who knows, if this will be a close fight, remath could be possible, and the anticipated fight between Spence and Crawford will be delayed.
I also cannot really deny how juicy the odds of the draw is, it is quite very unlikely to happen in this fight but who knows right? The fight is still undecided. This might be a good one to bet, I will throw a few bucks and that would suffice. Anyway, the fight is approaching in less than few hours from now. You already got your bets? Grin
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For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.



Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.

You have a point mate, it is worth it to put a few dollars on the "draw" option, and the bulk of our bet will be in the "Spence via Decision win".

When Ugas fought Manny Pacquiao, I thought that the former is too slow for Manny but the opposite happened, Manny was the one who could not avoid those crispy jabs of Ugas and I lose my bet on that fight not because I underestimated Ugas but because of putting too much premium on Manny's fight against Thurman.

Come Saturday's fight, Ugas will be the old man, and the amount of money involve for the much-awaited Welterweight unification between Crawford vs Spence is too big then i think Spence will pocket the "W" here.



I haven't thought of betting on the "DRAW", but looking at the odds, that attracts me. I would consider putting some money on the "DRAW" result, who knows, if this will be a close fight, remath could be possible, and the anticipated fight between Spence and Crawford will be delayed.
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For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.



Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.

You have a point mate, it is worth it to put a few dollars on the "draw" option, and the bulk of our bet will be in the "Spence via Decision win".

When Ugas fought Manny Pacquiao, I thought that the former is too slow for Manny but the opposite happened, Manny was the one who could not avoid those crispy jabs of Ugas and I lose my bet on that fight not because I underestimated Ugas but because of putting too much premium on Manny's fight against Thurman.

Come Saturday's fight, Ugas will be the old man, and the amount of money involve for the much-awaited Welterweight unification between Crawford vs Spence is too big then i think Spence will pocket the "W" here.

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Ugas did not beat a prime Pacman, that's why fans are still doubtful on his capability as a boxer, and they see that Spence is a tough animal, a boxer who is still on his prime, so if he could beat Spence, then he would gain 100% respect from the fans.

He can't brag with confidence that he beat Pacquiao, he just happens to be the guy who fought Pacquiao who is almost at the end of his career it could have been Spence or any other good boxer, but Ugas is the kind of boxer that Pacquiao can easily dispose of during the prime of his career if he beat Spence that would be the biggest upset of the year and will upset Crawford in the process.

Don't worry folks, Ugas was not bragging that he defeated the one and only Manny Pacquiao or anything similar about that. It just happens that he was there and replaced Spence on the fight because Spence cannot fight due to some retinal issues. Yordenis Ugas's name is just famous just because he defeated Pacman and that made some hype because of that upset, that same victory belonged to Spence if he wasn't injured. But fate chooses Ugas to have that fight and claim to be the winner against the aging Pacman.
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But for now, Crawford is going to watch the fight for sure and decide after the fight itself.

Crawford had already made a decision and that is to fight Spence, so whoever wins the fight between Spence and Ugas, I'm sure Crawford will challenge the winner and go with another unification fight. People are already predicting that Spence will win, but would that mean a big fight between Crawford and Spence will finally be realized?

Yes, it's a big fight if Spence win and then Crawford sign with PBC and make the fight happen. Crawford wanted to see who is the best in the welterweight so he is eyeing Spence. But as we have discussed before, Spence has so many excuses, and the sticking point the split. However, if Crawford signs with PBC in which Spence is also under, then maybe we will this find finally be realized.

I hope to see that happening, if that is the only chance Crawford will have a chance to fight Spence, then I think the decision is right, However, as the fight is approaching, Spence should be ready and must win against Ugas. Boxing nowadays has become a big business for most boxers, they value what they can earn more than the fans experience.

Everyone is really hoping that Spence and Crawford will clash after this fight specially if Spence win. The chances are high if Crawford signs with PBC, but we will see, maybe he can handle the negotiations and will agree with the terms that Spence will set. And for sure both knows the magnitude of their money, the money that they are going to make could be the biggest in their boxing careers so this fight should happen business wise.

If it's a 50/50 sharing of revenue, I think it's a fair deal and both parties would be willing to take it. However, Spence might change his mind especially if he wins his fight against Ugas because he will be holding more belts than what is Crawford currently holding. I hope he will not play a greedy game, just give the fans what they deserve so everyone will be happy.
That would be good if indeed Spence is willing to take a fair 50-50 share with Crawford and surely make the fight turn into reality but this scenario is somehow unlikely to happen as Spence is already vocal that he should take the bigger slice than Crawford. Especially if he will be the victorious one on this fight against Ugas, then we can expect that Spence will stood his ground and will only agree to fight if he will have the 60% share of the purse. Good thing is that Crawford can agree with it just to make the fight happen.
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For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.

Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.

A draw? That might not happen in this fight, yes it will be a close fight but nah I'm not seeing any draw either. Your choice mate! Grin
Errol Spence to win against Ugas by a decision is a much safer bet, but somehow I'm thinking that maybe he can take down the latter by a knockout but it is a risky bet as winning by a decision is the highest chance I'm seeing in this fight.


Draw is so rare on big fights and I also guess that will not happen for their fight. I also think its more risky to bet on that phase since we know that there one of them will be the winner of this match. I'm thinking about betting on Ugas since as I notice majority bet on Spence Jr. and want to try risking some amount of money to Ugas.
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For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.



Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.

A draw? That might not happen in this fight, yes it will be a close fight but nah I'm not seeing any draw either. Your choice mate! Grin
Errol Spence to win against Ugas by a decision is a much safer bet, but somehow I'm thinking that maybe he can take down the latter by a knockout but it is a risky bet as winning by a decision is the highest chance I'm seeing in this fight.
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Ugas did not beat a prime Pacman, that's why fans are still doubtful on his capability as a boxer, and they see that Spence is a tough animal, a boxer who is still on his prime, so if he could beat Spence, then he would gain 100% respect from the fans.

He can't brag with confidence that he beat Pacquiao, he just happens to be the guy who fought Pacquiao who is almost at the end of his career it could have been Spence or any other good boxer, but Ugas is the kind of boxer that Pacquiao can easily dispose of during the prime of his career if he beat Spence that would be the biggest upset of the year and will upset Crawford in the process.
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I also think that this fight will push through when the day of the fight will come. The loser of the match could be a chance for those who lose in their previous match which is a chance to climb back again and maybe land to a big fight. I'm thinking that this match is in favor of spence even if you just base it on their records which Spence did have more KOs. Not that I am very sure of what I said but there are unexpected events that you thought will happen so, all we can do is to wait and let the time tell you the result.

That is a good point to develop so that it is taken into account when making a bet, it is a point that can weigh heavily in the balance, I see that point and I think that if UGAS had not won Pacquiao, my bet would be all on him, but Ugas beat a boxing legend, with a tremendous experience that gushes out of his pores, plus a Filipino has a special talent for boxing, because every Filipino in the world stands out in boxing, I think he is a point to take into account, some will say that Pacquiao did not prepare well or did not have the gallantry because he wanted to be a politician, but that does not take away all the merit and that is why in boxing whoever wins (for me) is the most intelligent.

Let's give credit to Ugas for beating the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

But in this fight, it will be different, he will be facing another prime fighters and many considered to be the best welterweight right now hands down.

So there's a lot on Ugas plate here, of course he has a slight chance to win, just like in the Pacquaio fight where he was the underdog. However, Spence is very different and it will be very close and difficult fight for Ugas to overcome.

Ugas did not beat a prime Pacman, that's why fans are still doubtful on his capability as a boxer, and they see that Spence is a tough animal, a boxer who is still on his prime, so if he could beat Spence, then he would gain 100% respect from the fans.
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I also think that this fight will push through when the day of the fight will come. The loser of the match could be a chance for those who lose in their previous match which is a chance to climb back again and maybe land to a big fight. I'm thinking that this match is in favor of spence even if you just base it on their records which Spence did have more KOs. Not that I am very sure of what I said but there are unexpected events that you thought will happen so, all we can do is to wait and let the time tell you the result.

That is a good point to develop so that it is taken into account when making a bet, it is a point that can weigh heavily in the balance, I see that point and I think that if UGAS had not won Pacquiao, my bet would be all on him, but Ugas beat a boxing legend, with a tremendous experience that gushes out of his pores, plus a Filipino has a special talent for boxing, because every Filipino in the world stands out in boxing, I think he is a point to take into account, some will say that Pacquiao did not prepare well or did not have the gallantry because he wanted to be a politician, but that does not take away all the merit and that is why in boxing whoever wins (for me) is the most intelligent.

Let's give credit to Ugas for beating the legendary Manny Pacquiao.

But in this fight, it will be different, he will be facing another prime fighters and many considered to be the best welterweight right now hands down.

So there's a lot on Ugas plate here, of course he has a slight chance to win, just like in the Pacquaio fight where he was the underdog. However, Spence is very different and it will be very close and difficult fight for Ugas to overcome.
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I also think that this fight will push through when the day of the fight will come. The loser of the match could be a chance for those who lose in their previous match which is a chance to climb back again and maybe land to a big fight. I'm thinking that this match is in favor of spence even if you just base it on their records which Spence did have more KOs. Not that I am very sure of what I said but there are unexpected events that you thought will happen so, all we can do is to wait and let the time tell you the result.

That is a good point to develop so that it is taken into account when making a bet, it is a point that can weigh heavily in the balance, I see that point and I think that if UGAS had not won Pacquiao, my bet would be all on him, but Ugas beat a boxing legend, with a tremendous experience that gushes out of his pores, plus a Filipino has a special talent for boxing, because every Filipino in the world stands out in boxing, I think he is a point to take into account, some will say that Pacquiao did not prepare well or did not have the gallantry because he wanted to be a politician, but that does not take away all the merit and that is why in boxing whoever wins (for me) is the most intelligent.
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But for now, Crawford is going to watch the fight for sure and decide after the fight itself.

Crawford had already made a decision and that is to fight Spence, so whoever wins the fight between Spence and Ugas, I'm sure Crawford will challenge the winner and go with another unification fight. People are already predicting that Spence will win, but would that mean a big fight between Crawford and Spence will finally be realized?

Yes, it's a big fight if Spence win and then Crawford sign with PBC and make the fight happen. Crawford wanted to see who is the best in the welterweight so he is eyeing Spence. But as we have discussed before, Spence has so many excuses, and the sticking point the split. However, if Crawford signs with PBC in which Spence is also under, then maybe we will this find finally be realized.

I hope to see that happening, if that is the only chance Crawford will have a chance to fight Spence, then I think the decision is right, However, as the fight is approaching, Spence should be ready and must win against Ugas. Boxing nowadays has become a big business for most boxers, they value what they can earn more than the fans experience.

Everyone is really hoping that Spence and Crawford will clash after this fight specially if Spence win. The chances are high if Crawford signs with PBC, but we will see, maybe he can handle the negotiations and will agree with the terms that Spence will set. And for sure both knows the magnitude of their money, the money that they are going to make could be the biggest in their boxing careers so this fight should happen business wise.

If it's a 50/50 sharing of revenue, I think it's a fair deal and both parties would be willing to take it. However, Spence might change his mind especially if he wins his fight against Ugas because he will be holding more belts than what is Crawford currently holding. I hope he will not play a greedy game, just give the fans what they deserve so everyone will be happy.
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But for now, Crawford is going to watch the fight for sure and decide after the fight itself.

Crawford had already made a decision and that is to fight Spence, so whoever wins the fight between Spence and Ugas, I'm sure Crawford will challenge the winner and go with another unification fight. People are already predicting that Spence will win, but would that mean a big fight between Crawford and Spence will finally be realized?

Yes, it's a big fight if Spence win and then Crawford sign with PBC and make the fight happen. Crawford wanted to see who is the best in the welterweight so he is eyeing Spence. But as we have discussed before, Spence has so many excuses, and the sticking point the split. However, if Crawford signs with PBC in which Spence is also under, then maybe we will this find finally be realized.

I hope to see that happening, if that is the only chance Crawford will have a chance to fight Spence, then I think the decision is right, However, as the fight is approaching, Spence should be ready and must win against Ugas. Boxing nowadays has become a big business for most boxers, they value what they can earn more than the fans experience.

Everyone is really hoping that Spence and Crawford will clash after this fight specially if Spence win. The chances are high if Crawford signs with PBC, but we will see, maybe he can handle the negotiations and will agree with the terms that Spence will set. And for sure both knows the magnitude of their money, the money that they are going to make could be the biggest in their boxing careers so this fight should happen business wise.
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^^ Just imagine though what will gonna happen if the fight goes into a draw.
The fight with Crawford will be derailed and we might see a rematch, but gamblers doesn't care specially if they put up a decent bet on the Draw at 20.00 odds right now. But we all know that the chances are very slim, Spence is not going to allow it because this is his come back back and he wanted to impressed his fans again with a huge win against Ugas.
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For now, let's leave the discussion about it as this thread is for Ugas and Spence.

Exactly, let's discuss other things after this Saturday's fight.

Below are some options, actually my favorites options as most of my boxing bets are coming from this kind of market. Betting on Spence via Decision is not so attractive but for me this fight is money on the bag for Spence but I doubt he could KO Ugas. Your thoughts.



Errol Spence to win by decision is clearly the best choice for this fight, however, are we not underestimating Ugas? Similar to Spence he has a jab that he can use intelligently, he has good counter punches similar to what we have witnessed vs. Pacman and he can also pressure his opponent in the ring. Considering that this might be a close fight and boxing is a corrupt sport, I reckon also gamble on the draw hehehehe.
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Nope, Pacquiao was not able to hit Ugas with his power shots because Ugas was smart enough to block his shots. Ugas was able to maintain his distance by effectively using his jab, which i don't think would work against Spence who is a bigger and taller fighter.

Ugas should already know that what he did on Pacquiao, might not work on Spence.

We don't have any idea how Ugas will work on a strategy that can possibly beat a much stronger Spence but I'm excited about his game plan.

Even if we see Ugas having a lower chance to beat the hell out of Spence, I'm looking forward that their fight being a close one and not that Spence will be the majority winner of every round.



A much more powerful and younger Spence, that strategy from Pacquiao can easily break. I'm also excited to see how Ugas will adjust. I would like to see him to be more on offensive and not to focus with his defense and only throw punches to counter Spence attack, it would be great if both fighters will exchange punches and keep doing the counter attack each time their opponent start to be aggressive.

We don't know what preparation both fighters are doing right now. They both need to excel once they meet inside the ring.

The winner will not only grab all the belts but also increase his value on his next coming fight.
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I agree that it is hard to knockout Ugas because he has a good chin and if I'm not mistaken, his lost all came from decision.
yhup ugas has good chin because even Pacquiao power punches he can handle and stunned it, that's why for me in my views probably there's a possibility that this fight will end up by decision if Spence can survive as well and there's no knock out that will happen within 12 rounds in both sides.
I think that Ugas cannot be underestimated in that the  battle, because in the previous fight against Pacquiao, Ugas was able to make Pacquiao quite cornered in every attack made by Ugas, besides that I saw that Ugas also has the ability to neutralize every opponent with his extraordinary jab ability in every fight, and the fight later will be a proving ground for the two boxers who in my opinion have different techniques in fighting, but to be honest, I will really hope if Spence will be able to maintain his KO winning record later.

That might be the reason why some boxing analysts considered Ugas has a chance to beat Spence. After facing Pacquiao, Ugas learned something big and now become more aggressive to the point that he challenge right away a fellow champion Spence Jr. that almost cementing a dominance in their weight class.

Other boxing analysts also see Spence is not the same as before that is why they think Ugas can beat Spence. We will only see if all speculations of these boxing experts will come true once, of course, the fight is now ready to be rumbled on.
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