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Topic: [Boxing] Errol Spence Jr vs. Yordenis Ugas 3-Belt Welterweight Unification Match - page 7. (Read 3674 times)

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Well I hope that Crawford's camp will just agree that they will be having just 40% cut from the purse just to make the fight happen in reality, but I still doubt that they will just agree about it easily even if there's still some other ways that they can earn. You know, 10% is already a big money.

I agree, that discussion will come soon if indeed Spence happens to be the winner in this fight. For now, let's talk about Ugas and Spence as this is also an anticipated and interesting fight to see.

There's no other way. Crawford just needs to accept that 40%. He is the one hungry to fight Spence and the latter didn't even bother if the fight against him will happen or not. Spence will just go on his plan of moving up if Crawford won't agree with the purse split.

Spence is the big reason why the fight will generate more money and not Crawford. After he finished Spence, then demand more on his future fights, easy as that. For now, to make that fight happen, Crawford should just accept that Spence is really the King of Entertainment compared to him.

But this discussion can only happen if Spence will pass Ugas. What if Ugas won? It will now be Ugas vs Crawford and the purse split is 100% 50/50. Smiley
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That's already a fair cut because the distance between Crawford and Spence is not that big, he should already accept that deal if he was offered by Crawford's team. But it seems to me and probably for others that Spence is still not interested about it because he really looks like that he was avoiding Crawford for some reasons that he himself only knows or was he just trying to hype the fight.

I'm afraid that he will regret this decisions sooner or later because if Ugas will upset Spence, then that idea would become into ash as Ugas will be the one who will fight Crawford now. But if the opposite happens, I bet that Spence will recommend that he needs to get the 60% cut of the purse just for the fight to happen.

If Spence wins and demand or ask for that cut if Crawford's camp is very much willing to fight Spence it won't be a problem, they can accept that just to proceed with the talks, aside from this cut there are still many ways to earn from this possible fight, sponsors and other things behind this sport will be happy to engage.

It's more about what will happen from this upcoming fight. Everything will be discussed again after for now. Let's continue in our opinion

between Ugas and Spence and how we see the fight will end up. Roll Eyes Cool

Well I hope that Crawford's camp will just agree that they will be having just 40% cut from the purse just to make the fight happen in reality, but I still doubt that they will just agree about it easily even if there's still some other ways that they can earn. You know, 10% is already a big money.

I agree, that discussion will come soon if indeed Spence happens to be the winner in this fight. For now, let's talk about Ugas and Spence as this is also an anticipated and interesting fight to see.
Money wise, it's already huge a 10% cut in the purse could mean millions for this boxers. But if Crawford really wanted to see who is the best, then maybe he will go down and accept that split so that they can dance together. And if he believes in his talent then if he wins then definitely he will be now the A-side if Spence wanted a rematch.

But we will have to see Spence performance against Ugas first and definitely he needs to win it. Before we can speculate the possibility of a Spence vs Crawford unification and super fight.
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I also think that this fight will push through when the day of the fight will come. The loser of the match could be a chance for those who lose in their previous match which is a chance to climb back again and maybe land to a big fight. I'm thinking that this match is in favor of spence even if you just base it on their records which Spence did have more KOs. Not that I am very sure of what I said but there are unexpected events that you thought will happen so, all we can do is to wait and let the time tell you the result.
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That's already a fair cut because the distance between Crawford and Spence is not that big, he should already accept that deal if he was offered by Crawford's team. But it seems to me and probably for others that Spence is still not interested about it because he really looks like that he was avoiding Crawford for some reasons that he himself only knows or was he just trying to hype the fight.

I'm afraid that he will regret this decisions sooner or later because if Ugas will upset Spence, then that idea would become into ash as Ugas will be the one who will fight Crawford now. But if the opposite happens, I bet that Spence will recommend that he needs to get the 60% cut of the purse just for the fight to happen.

If Spence wins and demand or ask for that cut if Crawford's camp is very much willing to fight Spence it won't be a problem, they can accept that just to proceed with the talks, aside from this cut there are still many ways to earn from this possible fight, sponsors and other things behind this sport will be happy to engage.

It's more about what will happen from this upcoming fight. Everything will be discussed again after for now. Let's continue in our opinion

between Ugas and Spence and how we see the fight will end up. Roll Eyes Cool

I think Crawford's camp is already willing to fight Spence as they are calling him already in the past years, it's just that Spence is avoiding him or maybe he have another plans in his mind to make their fight more sellable if it would really happen soon. We don't really know about all these things yet that's why I'm curious what would be his response if he will be ask again after this fight.

Yes, the ball is on the court of Spence, and if he wins this fight, is he willing to give Crawford a fight or will he ignore him again and reason out that he doesn't have any power or bring fans? I think that is Spence sticking point, but not sure if that is justified or not. So yeah, the purse could be like 60-40 in favor of him but we can't do anything if he doesn't want to fight Crawford for whatever reason (or excuses).
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That's already a fair cut because the distance between Crawford and Spence is not that big, he should already accept that deal if he was offered by Crawford's team. But it seems to me and probably for others that Spence is still not interested about it because he really looks like that he was avoiding Crawford for some reasons that he himself only knows or was he just trying to hype the fight.

I'm afraid that he will regret this decisions sooner or later because if Ugas will upset Spence, then that idea would become into ash as Ugas will be the one who will fight Crawford now. But if the opposite happens, I bet that Spence will recommend that he needs to get the 60% cut of the purse just for the fight to happen.

If Spence wins and demand or ask for that cut if Crawford's camp is very much willing to fight Spence it won't be a problem, they can accept that just to proceed with the talks, aside from this cut there are still many ways to earn from this possible fight, sponsors and other things behind this sport will be happy to engage.

It's more about what will happen from this upcoming fight. Everything will be discussed again after for now. Let's continue in our opinion

between Ugas and Spence and how we see the fight will end up. Roll Eyes Cool

I think Crawford's camp is already willing to fight Spence as they are calling him already in the past years, it's just that Spence is avoiding him or maybe he have another plans in his mind to make their fight more sellable if it would really happen soon. We don't really know about all these things yet that's why I'm curious what would be his response if he will be ask again after this fight.
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That's already a fair cut because the distance between Crawford and Spence is not that big, he should already accept that deal if he was offered by Crawford's team. But it seems to me and probably for others that Spence is still not interested about it because he really looks like that he was avoiding Crawford for some reasons that he himself only knows or was he just trying to hype the fight.

I'm afraid that he will regret this decisions sooner or later because if Ugas will upset Spence, then that idea would become into ash as Ugas will be the one who will fight Crawford now. But if the opposite happens, I bet that Spence will recommend that he needs to get the 60% cut of the purse just for the fight to happen.

If Spence wins and demand or ask for that cut if Crawford's camp is very much willing to fight Spence it won't be a problem, they can accept that just to proceed with the talks, aside from this cut there are still many ways to earn from this possible fight, sponsors and other things behind this sport will be happy to engage.

It's more about what will happen from this upcoming fight. Everything will be discussed again after for now. Let's continue in our opinion

between Ugas and Spence and how we see the fight will end up. Roll Eyes Cool

Well I hope that Crawford's camp will just agree that they will be having just 40% cut from the purse just to make the fight happen in reality, but I still doubt that they will just agree about it easily even if there's still some other ways that they can earn. You know, 10% is already a big money.

I agree, that discussion will come soon if indeed Spence happens to be the winner in this fight. For now, let's talk about Ugas and Spence as this is also an anticipated and interesting fight to see.
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That's already a fair cut because the distance between Crawford and Spence is not that big, he should already accept that deal if he was offered by Crawford's team. But it seems to me and probably for others that Spence is still not interested about it because he really looks like that he was avoiding Crawford for some reasons that he himself only knows or was he just trying to hype the fight.

I'm afraid that he will regret this decisions sooner or later because if Ugas will upset Spence, then that idea would become into ash as Ugas will be the one who will fight Crawford now. But if the opposite happens, I bet that Spence will recommend that he needs to get the 60% cut of the purse just for the fight to happen.

If Spence wins and demand or ask for that cut if Crawford's camp is very much willing to fight Spence it won't be a problem, they can accept that just to proceed with the talks, aside from this cut there are still many ways to earn from this possible fight, sponsors and other things behind this sport will be happy to engage.

It's more about what will happen from this upcoming fight. Everything will be discussed again after for now. Let's continue in our opinion

between Ugas and Spence and how we see the fight will end up. Roll Eyes Cool
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I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.
I think that is a fight that we would all like to see, but as you say it seems Spence is not interested, it could be as we speculate that he is just avoiding Crawford, however there are many other possibilities, like the money not being high enough, wanting a bigger share than what Crawford wants to give him, personal problems between the two or even just a genuine desire to move up a division as he is finding difficult to remain at that weight.

Spence if offered a 50/50 sharing on the fight revenue, I think that's already fair since Crawford is a champion and even has a higher ranking than him. I don't know the real reason behind, but if he is avoiding him, then for sure that's not good as it will not give the fans the ultimate entertainment they are looking.

Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.
That's already a fair cut because the distance between Crawford and Spence is not that big, he should already accept that deal if he was offered by Crawford's team. But it seems to me and probably for others that Spence is still not interested about it because he really looks like that he was avoiding Crawford for some reasons that he himself only knows or was he just trying to hype the fight.

I'm afraid that he will regret this decisions sooner or later because if Ugas will upset Spence, then that idea would become into ash as Ugas will be the one who will fight Crawford now. But if the opposite happens, I bet that Spence will recommend that he needs to get the 60% cut of the purse just for the fight to happen.
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Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.

That's probably the reason why he left Top Rank to have more freedom in choosing his opponent, but even before he was still with the Top Rank. He was already calling out Spence but it seems like Spence is not interested in fighting him, so if Spence would say no, better for Crawford to just move up in weight.

It's really the best thing to do after you became famous, you need to part ways with your ex-manager to profit more and if it will gonna goes right for you, you can make your own promotion like the other popular boxers we have known in the boxing industry. Looks like boxers nowadays know to find their own way to make their own trademark in the industry, which can be a good thing for others as well once they managed to do the same when they are popular enough to part ways with their managers.
Yes mate, just like what Manny Pacquaio and Mayweather did. They built their own promotional company after having some first hand knowledge on how to do the business deals.

I suspect that Crawford already have an on idea how to do his own fights and sell it without the need of Bob Arum of the Top Rank Promotions and that's a good decision to earn more money every fight because he now have no one to share his cuts.

But its hard to promote yourself especially if you are not in level with Pacquaio and Mayweather. Although we know how good Crawford is but its a huge gamble for his career for doing that plan, but if he can take a risk to do that then maybe its good to try this after he win with Ugas since if he lose on that match this owned promotional business will became unrelevant since fans interest will lessen.
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Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.

That's probably the reason why he left Top Rank to have more freedom in choosing his opponent, but even before he was still with the Top Rank. He was already calling out Spence but it seems like Spence is not interested in fighting him, so if Spence would say no, better for Crawford to just move up in weight.

It's really the best thing to do after you became famous, you need to part ways with your ex-manager to profit more and if it will gonna goes right for you, you can make your own promotion like the other popular boxers we have known in the boxing industry. Looks like boxers nowadays know to find their own way to make their own trademark in the industry, which can be a good thing for others as well once they managed to do the same when they are popular enough to part ways with their managers.
Yes mate, just like what Manny Pacquaio and Mayweather did. They built their own promotional company after having some first hand knowledge on how to do the business deals.

I suspect that Crawford already have an on idea how to do his own fights and sell it without the need of Bob Arum of the Top Rank Promotions and that's a good decision to earn more money every fight because he now have no one to share his cuts.
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Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.

That's probably the reason why he left Top Rank to have more freedom in choosing his opponent, but even before he was still with the Top Rank. He was already calling out Spence but it seems like Spence is not interested in fighting him, so if Spence would say no, better for Crawford to just move up in weight.

It's really the best thing to do after you became famous, you need to part ways with your ex-manager to profit more and if it will gonna goes right for you, you can make your own promotion like the other popular boxers we have known in the boxing industry. Looks like boxers nowadays know to find their own way to make their own trademark in the industry, which can be a good thing for others as well once they managed to do the same when they are popular enough to part ways with their managers.
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Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.

That's probably the reason why he left Top Rank to have more freedom in choosing his opponent, but even before he was still with the Top Rank. He was already calling out Spence but it seems like Spence is not interested in fighting him, so if Spence would say no, better for Crawford to just move up in weight.
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I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.
I think that is a fight that we would all like to see, but as you say it seems Spence is not interested, it could be as we speculate that he is just avoiding Crawford, however there are many other possibilities, like the money not being high enough, wanting a bigger share than what Crawford wants to give him, personal problems between the two or even just a genuine desire to move up a division as he is finding difficult to remain at that weight.

Spence if offered a 50/50 sharing on the fight revenue, I think that's already fair since Crawford is a champion and even has a higher ranking than him. I don't know the real reason behind, but if he is avoiding him, then for sure that's not good as it will not give the fans the ultimate entertainment they are looking.

Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.
Unless if it would make it mandatory then there's no way for Spence to ignore such fight but we know that this isnt possible.Whether on what the reason behind on not being interested for Crawford fight
then its up to him whether its a personal one or about the money but 50/50 isnt really that bad either. Lets just wait until the time comes if he would make out such decision.
The thing he should mind off as of this moment is on his fight against Ugas which he shouldnt taken it lightly.
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I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.
I think that is a fight that we would all like to see, but as you say it seems Spence is not interested, it could be as we speculate that he is just avoiding Crawford, however there are many other possibilities, like the money not being high enough, wanting a bigger share than what Crawford wants to give him, personal problems between the two or even just a genuine desire to move up a division as he is finding difficult to remain at that weight.

Spence if offered a 50/50 sharing on the fight revenue, I think that's already fair since Crawford is a champion and even has a higher ranking than him. I don't know the real reason behind, but if he is avoiding him, then for sure that's not good as it will not give the fans the ultimate entertainment they are looking.

Crawford really want a blockbuster fight as he is not making big money in his past fights, so maybe now that he is not connected with Bob, he could make his own decision whom he would like to fight.
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I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.
I think that is a fight that we would all like to see, but as you say it seems Spence is not interested, it could be as we speculate that he is just avoiding Crawford, however there are many other possibilities, like the money not being high enough, wanting a bigger share than what Crawford wants to give him, personal problems between the two or even just a genuine desire to move up a division as he is finding difficult to remain at that weight.
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I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.

Who knows if the price is right, maybe after if in case Spence wins this match against Ugas before he jumped to another division

he will give the fans the fight that they wanted to witness. These two names are well recognized in this division, and like many

of us, we wanted them to face inside the ring and settle who between them is the best division champ. Everything is still possible

but we should wait till this fight is over and Spence was announced as the winner.
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^^ Thurman is just lurking in the shadows, he just come back from a long layoff and for me his latest win against a balloon up Barrios is not that impressive. He needs to fight quality fighters fight in the division before he can fight for the belt again. So right now, it's Spence, Crawford and Ugas as the top dog and maybe they should fight each other first and then Thurman builds up his resume again before he can fight anyone of them.

Maybe Thurman can fight the loser between Ugas and Spence instead of having a rematch, the winner can move forward and face

Crawford, this would be a good chance for Thurman to aim for the belt if he wins, then waiting for the loser again, then challenge the

overall belt holder. Just a wild opinion though, but for now, everyone's eye is on this upcoming fight. A winner takes all fights that will

add a good hypes to the winner's resume and accomplishments.

Good opinion, but Thurman wants to fight the winner of this fight. Even though Thurman's come back win isn't that impressive but he's still a top caliber fighter and will always worthy to take a shot on the top fighters on his weight division currently.
However, base on this article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.badlefthook.com/platform/amp/2022/2/10/22926877/keith-thurman-would-love-fight-spence-vs-ugas-winner-next-boxing-news-2022
If Spence will win against Ugas, he might turn down the offer to fight Thurman due to a personal reason.
So, most probably it's gonna be Spence vs. Crawford. But Ugas might not be an easy opponent for Spence. So, he should get pass against Ugas first before we proceed talking about his next fight.

I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.

Not sure if he is avoiding it intentionally or just wanted to create hype around it or just waiting to see what is going to be in the table money wise.

And he can't just go and move to the next division, sooner or later it will haunt him not for not fighting Crawford. This fight could define both of their legacy as a boxer. So this fight should be made if he wins against Ugas.

Lots of fans like us has been wanting to know what's the reason behind why Spence isn't fighting Crawford, that's why it looks like he is avoiding him or afraid of him. The fans wants to know and might be best to fight Crawford if indeed Spence will be the winner on this fight.

We've heard that Spence wants the bigger slice since then but I guess if there's an agreement Crawford will settle on the 40%-50% just to make the fight happen. Anyway, we will hear it again from him soon after the fight because I know that there will be a reporter that will ask him regarding the status between him and Crawford.
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^^ Thurman is just lurking in the shadows, he just come back from a long layoff and for me his latest win against a balloon up Barrios is not that impressive. He needs to fight quality fighters fight in the division before he can fight for the belt again. So right now, it's Spence, Crawford and Ugas as the top dog and maybe they should fight each other first and then Thurman builds up his resume again before he can fight anyone of them.

Maybe Thurman can fight the loser between Ugas and Spence instead of having a rematch, the winner can move forward and face

Crawford, this would be a good chance for Thurman to aim for the belt if he wins, then waiting for the loser again, then challenge the

overall belt holder. Just a wild opinion though, but for now, everyone's eye is on this upcoming fight. A winner takes all fights that will

add a good hypes to the winner's resume and accomplishments.

Good opinion, but Thurman wants to fight the winner of this fight. Even though Thurman's come back win isn't that impressive but he's still a top caliber fighter and will always worthy to take a shot on the top fighters on his weight division currently.
However, base on this article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.badlefthook.com/platform/amp/2022/2/10/22926877/keith-thurman-would-love-fight-spence-vs-ugas-winner-next-boxing-news-2022
If Spence will win against Ugas, he might turn down the offer to fight Thurman due to a personal reason.
So, most probably it's gonna be Spence vs. Crawford. But Ugas might not be an easy opponent for Spence. So, he should get pass against Ugas first before we proceed talking about his next fight.

I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.

Not sure if he is avoiding it intentionally or just wanted to create hype around it or just waiting to see what is going to be in the table money wise.

And he can't just go and move to the next division, sooner or later it will haunt him not for not fighting Crawford. This fight could define both of their legacy as a boxer. So this fight should be made if he wins against Ugas.
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^^ Thurman is just lurking in the shadows, he just come back from a long layoff and for me his latest win against a balloon up Barrios is not that impressive. He needs to fight quality fighters fight in the division before he can fight for the belt again. So right now, it's Spence, Crawford and Ugas as the top dog and maybe they should fight each other first and then Thurman builds up his resume again before he can fight anyone of them.

Maybe Thurman can fight the loser between Ugas and Spence instead of having a rematch, the winner can move forward and face

Crawford, this would be a good chance for Thurman to aim for the belt if he wins, then waiting for the loser again, then challenge the

overall belt holder. Just a wild opinion though, but for now, everyone's eye is on this upcoming fight. A winner takes all fights that will

add a good hypes to the winner's resume and accomplishments.

Yes, I was also about to say the same thing that Keith Thurman should watch and fight who will be the loser between Ugas and Spence as this way he could climb back again and start his career with more credible opponents and Ugas or Spence is good starting phase to begin with.

He cannot just yet face and fight Crawford because he's reserve to fight who will be the winner between Ugas and Spence. Thurman's time will come because he's just starting to build his career again and defeating Barrios is just a welcome phase.

Defeating Barrios is impressive part of reviving back his career and for what we see it shows that he can still able to have a good comeback to fight more big names on their division. I'm curious to know the result about this knowing that Ugas or Erol Spence is also a great fighter to defeat and what will happen to his career if he lost again once their match between Ugas or Spence.
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^^ Thurman is just lurking in the shadows, he just come back from a long layoff and for me his latest win against a balloon up Barrios is not that impressive. He needs to fight quality fighters fight in the division before he can fight for the belt again. So right now, it's Spence, Crawford and Ugas as the top dog and maybe they should fight each other first and then Thurman builds up his resume again before he can fight anyone of them.

Maybe Thurman can fight the loser between Ugas and Spence instead of having a rematch, the winner can move forward and face

Crawford, this would be a good chance for Thurman to aim for the belt if he wins, then waiting for the loser again, then challenge the

overall belt holder. Just a wild opinion though, but for now, everyone's eye is on this upcoming fight. A winner takes all fights that will

add a good hypes to the winner's resume and accomplishments.

Good opinion, but Thurman wants to fight the winner of this fight. Even though Thurman's come back win isn't that impressive but he's still a top caliber fighter and will always worthy to take a shot on the top fighters on his weight division currently.
However, base on this article https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.badlefthook.com/platform/amp/2022/2/10/22926877/keith-thurman-would-love-fight-spence-vs-ugas-winner-next-boxing-news-2022
If Spence will win against Ugas, he might turn down the offer to fight Thurman due to a personal reason.
So, most probably it's gonna be Spence vs. Crawford. But Ugas might not be an easy opponent for Spence. So, he should get pass against Ugas first before we proceed talking about his next fight.

I think us fans would like to see a super fight, Spence vs Crawford should be next.

But it seems that Spence is not that interested though, and would rather move up to 154 lbs and face other champions. Not sure why is Spence trying to avoid Crawford because they are the two best on the welterweight division and boxing fans deserves this fight, two undefeated fighters all belt on the line.
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