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https://www.google.com/amp/s/tribune.net.ph/amp/story/2024/10/15/casimero-not-on-top-ranks-radar

Too bad for us who wants to see Casimero and Inoue fight. Looks like, Casimero didn't impress the top rank peeps. He's not under Inoue's radar even after the dominating 1st round knock out win.
Well, I guess this what happens when you don't carry any title to leverage the fight you wanted.
There has been a lot of debate in the social media whether or not Inoue has been ducking again or is it just because Casimero has made several violations against boxing regulations.
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It is quite unfortunate that the stunning KO victory obtained by Casimero gave another sad incident where he had to accept sanction for one-year ban from fighting in Japan as widely reported by various sports media.
But Casimero is under Treasure Boxing Promotions which is promoter from Japan and of course there will be an appeal or other efforts with the next fight outside Japan, but we just see how it goes.
What is clear is that I see Casimero has great ambitions to return to being the best and he said he could make it all happen in 2025.

Getting banned in Japan for a year is a big blow to Casimero's chances of challenging Inoue, especially since Inoue is focused on fighting in Japan. With that year, Inoue’s team can say whatever they want without fans constantly pushing for a Casimero fight.

But in my opinion, the ban isn’t that bad because opportunities aren’t just limited to Japan. If Casimero's promoter truly believes in him and his marketability, they should look for big fights outside Japan, maybe in Saudi Arabia or the USA. These places are becoming major venues with lots of top fighters eager to showcase their skills.

Casimero isn’t a champion right now, so he’d probably land on the undercard for those events if he wants more exposure. Let’s see how things develop, but from what I’ve seen, Casimero had a solid year and deserves a break until the end of the year.

Exactly this totally end up his want to fight Inoue and also the camp of the monster is so clear on their intention that they don't have interest to fight Casimero.

Don't know if they are afraid or what since they have so many reasons produced just to avoid. Maybe best for Casimero to go up. Maybe Casimero should forget about chasing Inoue and just get fights outside Japan. Saudi Arabia and USA is good venue for sure he could able to get a fight especially if there's no influential people will intervene. Since we know that he have bad blood with Sean Gibbons which somehow the main reason on why he struggle to get big fights. For now he should take a break for awhile and plan his next fight since this is the only thing he could do.
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It is quite unfortunate that the stunning KO victory obtained by Casimero gave another sad incident where he had to accept sanction for one-year ban from fighting in Japan as widely reported by various sports media.
But Casimero is under Treasure Boxing Promotions which is promoter from Japan and of course there will be an appeal or other efforts with the next fight outside Japan, but we just see how it goes.
What is clear is that I see Casimero has great ambitions to return to being the best and he said he could make it all happen in 2025.

Getting banned in Japan for a year is a big blow to Casimero's chances of challenging Inoue, especially since Inoue is focused on fighting in Japan. With that year, Inoue’s team can say whatever they want without fans constantly pushing for a Casimero fight.

But in my opinion, the ban isn’t that bad because opportunities aren’t just limited to Japan. If Casimero's promoter truly believes in him and his marketability, they should look for big fights outside Japan, maybe in Saudi Arabia or the USA. These places are becoming major venues with lots of top fighters eager to showcase their skills.

Casimero isn’t a champion right now, so he’d probably land on the undercard for those events if he wants more exposure. Let’s see how things develop, but from what I’ve seen, Casimero had a solid year and deserves a break until the end of the year.
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He was just pissed that inside of the news channel reporting his victory in Japan, instead of congratulating him first. And that time, maybe Casimero hasn't heard the news yet and not yet official with regards to his ban.
It is quite unfortunate that the stunning KO victory obtained by Casimero gave another sad incident where he had to accept sanction for one-year ban from fighting in Japan as widely reported by various sports media.
But Casimero is under Treasure Boxing Promotions which is promoter from Japan and of course there will be an appeal or other efforts with the next fight outside Japan, but we just see how it goes.
What is clear is that I see Casimero has great ambitions to return to being the best and he said he could make it all happen in 2025.
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Casimero has landed a few days ago in the Philippines and he was given a hero's welcome in his hometown. Just a few stops in Japan for him. And regarding his suspension, here is the official list that we got from Japan commission,



https://jbc.or.jp/wp_jbc/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/syouhei241016.pdf

Unfortunately, I can't speak Japanese so not sure how long is the suspension although many news outlet had already reported it to be 1 year. Although Casimero didn't like what local GMA news reported it,


Using some translation tool for that picture, here's what it says.

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He was just pissed that inside of the news channel reporting his victory in Japan, instead of congratulating him first. And that time, maybe Casimero hasn't heard the news yet and not yet official with regards to his ban.

Not all media is like that though. Sure, he won, but he’s not Manny, and that fight wasn’t even for a championship. Maybe it’s also his attitude that turns the media away from supporting him, but it’s okay. Media today isn’t as important as before, especially now that we have social media and famous vloggers like Silver Voice TV (who’s betting against him,  Tongue).
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Casimero has landed a few days ago in the Philippines and he was given a hero's welcome in his hometown. Just a few stops in Japan for him. And regarding his suspension, here is the official list that we got from Japan commission,



https://jbc.or.jp/wp_jbc/wp-content/uploads/2024/10/syouhei241016.pdf

Unfortunately, I can't speak Japanese so not sure how long is the suspension although many news outlet had already reported it to be 1 year. Although Casimero didn't like what local GMA news reported it,



https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=554141437302765

He was just pissed that inside of the news channel reporting his victory in Japan, instead of congratulating him first. And that time, maybe Casimero hasn't heard the news yet and not yet official with regards to his ban.
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That is good if that's the case, i hope that Treasure Boxing Promotion will continue to support Casimero. On the othe hand, Team Casimero has another option, they say that they will accept the offer for them to fight in Saudi Arabia if no offer that is made to them.
If he could be on the undercard, that would be a smart move. The Saudi promoters seem to focus on big, high-profile fights, usually with well-known names. Even though Casimero isn't a global sensation, a matchup between him and Inoue would definitely turn heads, especially if they meet in a heavier division. Casimero might be thinking about moving up anyway since he's been struggling to maintain his current weight. His body’s getting bigger, so it’s probably time for him to make that move.

Casimero vs Tapales is a good match-up but i don't think someone would promote this fight as there are no hype between them.

A Casimero vs. Tapales fight would definitely stir up some excitement, especially here in the Philippines. It could be the perfect tune-up for Casimero while he figures out his next big move outside Japan. Plus, with the beef between them, it would add extra spice to the matchup, making it more than just a regular fight.
I do agree, I do not think that the power broker in Saudi is looking at smaller weights unless your name is Inoue or Tank Davis. However, we have seen Tank Davis like Canelo didn't welcome Turki's involvement in boxing. So I doubt that this two might fight in Saudi. But if there are offer from Saudi then why not? He will be one lucky boxer with his stature trying to break into Middle East. As for Casimero vs Tapales, it is also doable, I know usually Filipinos have this unwritten rule not to fight each other, unless when both fighters are still trying to make a name for themselves. However, Casimero already fought Jonas Sultan and he is the last man to beat Casimero in 2017. And we all know that Sultan replaced Casimero in the Butler fight. So overall, I do agree that Casimero vs Tapales is going to be worth watching for for Filipino boxing fans. Or maybe the whole division is watching, as Tapales is a former champion at 122 lbs.
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That is good if that's the case, i hope that Treasure Boxing Promotion will continue to support Casimero. On the othe hand, Team Casimero has another option, they say that they will accept the offer for them to fight in Saudi Arabia if no offer that is made to them.
If he could be on the undercard, that would be a smart move. The Saudi promoters seem to focus on big, high-profile fights, usually with well-known names. Even though Casimero isn't a global sensation, a matchup between him and Inoue would definitely turn heads, especially if they meet in a heavier division. Casimero might be thinking about moving up anyway since he's been struggling to maintain his current weight. His body’s getting bigger, so it’s probably time for him to make that move.

Casimero vs Tapales is a good match-up but i don't think someone would promote this fight as there are no hype between them.

A Casimero vs. Tapales fight would definitely stir up some excitement, especially here in the Philippines. It could be the perfect tune-up for Casimero while he figures out his next big move outside Japan. Plus, with the beef between them, it would add extra spice to the matchup, making it more than just a regular fight.
If he had some problems about maintaining or reaching up such weight or controlling it out then it isnt really directly a solution on moving into higher weight division. He do really just have that bad nutritionist and it would really be better that if they would be hiring up someone but actually this could also reflect out that Casimero's discipline towards his body weight isnt really that much good because if he do really have that need to maintain up that weight bracket then he should really be that strict or mindful about into his diet too, so that he wont really be facing up some bans due to some weight issues.
As for against with Tapales then it would be having no doubts that Tapales isnt really that able to beat up Casimero but well it is really that hard to make out some conclusions on this one but
basing up on records then we could really be able to actually see on who do have the advantage. As for having those fight arrangement outside Japan then it could really be still possible but
i do agree on what you have said that mostly this could really be happening into those fighters on which having that higher caliber or simply having that popularity.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


I read that his Japanese promoter will continue to back him, and they are hoping that Casimero and Inoue will meet in another weight category, A good promoter will find a way to do that if the circumstances is not favorable.
Good for him, because if his Japanese promoter will not extend his contract, then he will have to look for another promoter. And it's going to be very difficult because of his history of not making the weight.

Casimero's only choice is to fight in the Philippines and fight a top rated boxer possibly Marlon Tapales.
I think we have a good fight if both fighters agreed to fight even without a title, its not really hopeless for Casimero although this Japan ban is a big blow to his campaign to fight Inoue, his team and his promoters can take their fight elsewhere like in the US if his promoter is good in negotiating.
Tapales is a former champion, has face Inoue before, it will be good to see them fight each other. But not sure though as Filipino boxers are close if I'm not mistaken. As usually they come from the same province or spoke the same language. But in any case if there are no more options for him, then Tapales vs Casimero could be a headline fight in the Philippines.
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That is good if that's the case, i hope that Treasure Boxing Promotion will continue to support Casimero. On the othe hand, Team Casimero has another option, they say that they will accept the offer for them to fight in Saudi Arabia if no offer that is made to them.
If he could be on the undercard, that would be a smart move. The Saudi promoters seem to focus on big, high-profile fights, usually with well-known names. Even though Casimero isn't a global sensation, a matchup between him and Inoue would definitely turn heads, especially if they meet in a heavier division. Casimero might be thinking about moving up anyway since he's been struggling to maintain his current weight. His body’s getting bigger, so it’s probably time for him to make that move.

Casimero vs Tapales is a good match-up but i don't think someone would promote this fight as there are no hype between them.

A Casimero vs. Tapales fight would definitely stir up some excitement, especially here in the Philippines. It could be the perfect tune-up for Casimero while he figures out his next big move outside Japan. Plus, with the beef between them, it would add extra spice to the matchup, making it more than just a regular fight.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


I read that his Japanese promoter will continue to back him, and they are hoping that Casimero and Inoue will meet in another weight category, A good promoter will find a way to do that if the circumstances is not favorable.
Casimero's only choice is to fight in the Philippines and fight a top rated boxer possibly Marlon Tapales.
I think we have a good fight if both fighters agreed to fight even without a title, its not really hopeless for Casimero although this Japan ban is a big blow to his campaign to fight Inoue, his team and his promoters can take their fight elsewhere like in the US if his promoter is good in negotiating.

That is good if that's the case, i hope that Treasure Boxing Promotion will continue to support Casimero. On the othe hand, Team Casimero has another option, they say that they will accept the offer for them to fight in Saudi Arabia if no offer that is made to them.

Casimero vs Tapales is a good match-up but i don't think someone would promote this fight as there are no hype between them.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


Japan has one of the strictest commissions so the suspension comes as no surprise. They have even suspended fighters for fighting dirty and trainers have been banned for insulting the referee. 1 year does seem harsh but his prior weight issues were probably taken into consideration and they wanted to teach him a lesson so he doesn’t continue breaking the rules.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


I read that his Japanese promoter will continue to back him, and they are hoping that Casimero and Inoue will meet in another weight category, A good promoter will find a way to do that if the circumstances is not favorable.
Casimero's only choice is to fight in the Philippines and fight a top rated boxer possibly Marlon Tapales.
I think we have a good fight if both fighters agreed to fight even without a title, its not really hopeless for Casimero although this Japan ban is a big blow to his campaign to fight Inoue, his team and his promoters can take their fight elsewhere like in the US if his promoter is good in negotiating.
Actually i was surprised that there's that immediate ban just because of that weight problem on which i could say or we can all say that it is really just that too much?
I do have those kind of feels that they are really just that trying out to avoid on having that face down with Inoue vs Casimero on which this fight had been long time in talks of boxing fans
that both fighters would really be meeting up on the ring. Is there a possibility that it could be arranged and done outside Japan? It will really be that great if this one really happens
because we would really be able to see up on whose really that much better fighter among the two.

1 year is really just that too fast and could be not noticed specially on boxing world and instead on trying out to make up some kind of argument on such ban then it would really be better that Casimero's camp should really be focusing into things on where they could really be actually be able to have those kind of steps on which it makes closer to Inoue. Just like on what you had observed or everyone is really that noticing on why they are really that too strict or making up some heavy decisions specially on this one that being banned for 1 year as this kind of weigh problem isnt that a major thing? Why such ban? You would really be normal raising up some questions on why the heck they do came up with that kind of idea or decision. Well, its really that not that too long to consider and on the moment that Casimero do able to pass up that banned then if they would really be throwing out another issue then this is where we can really be able to say that they are really that trying out to avoid Casimero.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


I read that his Japanese promoter will continue to back him, and they are hoping that Casimero and Inoue will meet in another weight category, A good promoter will find a way to do that if the circumstances is not favorable.
Casimero's only choice is to fight in the Philippines and fight a top rated boxer possibly Marlon Tapales.
I think we have a good fight if both fighters agreed to fight even without a title, its not really hopeless for Casimero although this Japan ban is a big blow to his campaign to fight Inoue, his team and his promoters can take their fight elsewhere like in the US if his promoter is good in negotiating.
Actually i was surprised that there's that immediate ban just because of that weight problem on which i could say or we can all say that it is really just that too much?
I do have those kind of feels that they are really just that trying out to avoid on having that face down with Inoue vs Casimero on which this fight had been long time in talks of boxing fans
that both fighters would really be meeting up on the ring. Is there a possibility that it could be arranged and done outside Japan? It will really be that great if this one really happens
because we would really be able to see up on whose really that much better fighter among the two.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


I read that his Japanese promoter will continue to back him, and they are hoping that Casimero and Inoue will meet in another weight category, A good promoter will find a way to do that if the circumstances is not favorable.
Casimero's only choice is to fight in the Philippines and fight a top rated boxer possibly Marlon Tapales.
I think we have a good fight if both fighters agreed to fight even without a title, its not really hopeless for Casimero although this Japan ban is a big blow to his campaign to fight Inoue, his team and his promoters can take their fight elsewhere like in the US if his promoter is good in negotiating.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.
Japan dislikes Casimero because they believe Inoue can't beat him, and they made it look legit by suspending Casimero for a year, so he couldn’t fight in Japan. It’s kind of funny because, in the past, they gave Nery a lifetime ban, but when they saw the chance that Inoue could fight him since he’s easier to beat, they suddenly lifted the ban.

Eyes here....
Japan Boxing Commission bans Luis Nery for life

And then...
Boxing News: Japanese Boxing Commission Lifts Ban on Luis Nery Amid Naoya Inoue Fight Rumors

I'm also under the impression that Japan might not like Casimero at all because of his taunting to Inoue. But I guess in their own ruling, if a boxer fight in their country and can't make the desired weight, then he should be punished and be suspended in Japan and that's what they do here.
They’re really trying to make Inoue look like a world-class fighter, even making him the number 1 pound-for-pound, but most of his fights have been in Japan. There’s no doubt about his power and speed, but maybe it’s time for him to challenge tougher opponents. If he can’t fight Casimero, he should move up in weight since he’s been in the same division for so long and already became undisputed.

What’s the point of playing it safe? He calls himself the "monster," so he shouldn’t fear anyone.

And if we fans can vote as to who is Casimero's next fight, it will be obviously, Inoue. Second choice will be Luis Nery, I agree that Nery is also a heavy puncher himself so a fight with Casimero, we might see someone going into the canvass or the fight ending in a knockout. But since this is Casimero's last fight with his Japanese promoters and there are no news that he will be sign again, then we really don't know what will happen to his career for now.

I hope something positive happens for him. After that big win and not being able to fight in Japan for a year, he should really take his business elsewhere, maybe fight in the US again and face some real challenges there.

Also, it reminded me, if you followed the Mayweather and Marquez fight, do you remember that at the weigh-in, Mayweather was over the limit? That gave him an easy win against Marquez, but was Mayweather suspended after that? Nope.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.
Japan dislikes Casimero because they believe Inoue can't beat him, and they made it look legit by suspending Casimero for a year, so he couldn’t fight in Japan. It’s kind of funny because, in the past, they gave Nery a lifetime ban, but when they saw the chance that Inoue could fight him since he’s easier to beat, they suddenly lifted the ban.

Eyes here....
Japan Boxing Commission bans Luis Nery for life

And then...
Boxing News: Japanese Boxing Commission Lifts Ban on Luis Nery Amid Naoya Inoue Fight Rumors

I'm also under the impression that Japan might not like Casimero at all because of his taunting to Inoue. But I guess in their own ruling, if a boxer fight in their country and can't make the desired weight, then he should be punished and be suspended in Japan and that's what they do here.

And if we fans can vote as to who is Casimero's next fight, it will be obviously, Inoue. Second choice will be Luis Nery, I agree that Nery is also a heavy puncher himself so a fight with Casimero, we might see someone going into the canvass or the fight ending in a knockout. But since this is Casimero's last fight with his Japanese promoters and there are no news that he will be sign again, then we really don't know what will happen to his career for now.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.
Japan dislikes Casimero because they believe Inoue can't beat him, and they made it look legit by suspending Casimero for a year, so he couldn’t fight in Japan. It’s kind of funny because, in the past, they gave Nery a lifetime ban, but when they saw the chance that Inoue could fight him since he’s easier to beat, they suddenly lifted the ban.

Eyes here....
Japan Boxing Commission bans Luis Nery for life

And then...
Boxing News: Japanese Boxing Commission Lifts Ban on Luis Nery Amid Naoya Inoue Fight Rumors
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Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?


There are a lot of solid names in the 122 lbs like,

Luis Nery - who give Inoue his first knockdown of his career, and Casimero and Nery has been calling out each other for many years, but during that time Casimero is still at the bantamweight of 118 lbs. But now that they are both in the same division, it might be good to see both of this big mouth fighters facing each other.

Murodjon Akhmadaliev - former champion, I think this is also a good fight for Casimero, Murodjon is a tough fighter and in paper it's going to be a clash of style, as Murodjon is somewhat technical and then Casimero, pure power in his every punch.
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For those who don't know, Casimero is suspended  by JBC for fighting in Japan for one year because he was one kilogram overweight. This punishment was imposed due to Casimero's failure to make the required weight during his previous fight against Saul Sanchez, which had  122-pound limit for the super bantamweight division. This penalty seems harsh. Hopefully he can make the most of fight or get fight soon, as he's also getting older.

Aside from Inoue, who are some notable boxers in his weight class that he could face?
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