[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 2.

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Quote from: harizen on August 14, 2021, 03:23:03 AM

Quote from: Kelvinid on August 13, 2021, 08:16:15 AM

I'll go for the KO per round as it's more interesting for me.

Can you share some crypto-betting sites that offer other betting options for this match?

I want to see other betting options since checking a couple of my preferred sites, the only option is the winner of the match.

There will be no betting for this one because the match was already cancelled and Manny will face other boxer on August 22, try to look at your sportsbook if Manny vs Ugas is available and analyze first before you gamble. On this new match, I expect now Manny to KO his opponent on any round, this is still an exciting match.

I'm sure harizen knows the fight was cancelled, he is probably asking for the Pacquiao vs Ugas fight, and currently there's not betting per round on the fight yet, but when Spence vs Pacquiao odds were open, there were a lot of markets, so most likely the complete odds will also be available soon.

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I'll go for the KO per round as it's more interesting for me.

Can you share some crypto-betting sites that offer other betting options for this match?

I want to see other betting options since checking a couple of my preferred sites, the only option is the winner of the match.

There will be no betting for this one because the match was already cancelled and Manny will face other boxer on August 22, try to look at your sportsbook if Manny vs Ugas is available and analyze first before you gamble. On this new match, I expect now Manny to KO his opponent on any round, this is still an exciting match.

He's not aware with the news and its true that Pacquiao vs Spence had been cancelled out due to eye injury of Spence and now diverted to Ugas which i could say that Spence is much more better opponent
but imho that Ugas isnt someone that you should be confident on even though he had more losses than or compared with Spence but basing up with experience then they are just the same.
Its just sad that the fight didnt really happen in between spence and pacquiao but this one didnt really make Pacquiao to stop but rather seeing some potential opponent which do end up with
Ugas.

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This is understandable. Spence is a young undefeated boxer and a clear contender to dominate over the years. Yordenis Ugas is a slightly younger boxer than Pacquiao with an impressive record of defeats and does not claim to be a milestone in boxing history. It is possible that the upcoming fight will be easy for Pacquiao, I think if it happens this way, everyone will be disappointed.

I'm watching his fight against Shawn Porter where he lost via SD, I think he is just too slow compared to Pacquiao and I can see an easy win by Pacquiao if he will just always be careful. This is the video of the full fight, courtesy of Premier Boxing Champions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwDc3BgZpk)

Yes, I saw this fight, Ugas was experiencing big problems throughout the fight due to the fact that he lagged behind in speed. By the way, I still don't understand why one of the judges gave the victory to Ugas - Porter was in the lead in shots and, therefore, points in almost every round.
It turns out that Ugas has only one hope - a knockout victory; in terms of points, he is unlikely to be able to defeat the faster Pacquiao.

Ugas does not have the speed and probably the power to defeat Pacquiao, he is just like a counter puncher but with the style of boxing of Pacquiao which is in and out, we might probably see a scenario like Pacquiao vs Clottey here whom Pacquiao's opponent is just fighting to survive, not to win.

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Quote from: Kasabus on August 13, 2021, 07:58:09 AM

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This is understandable. Spence is a young undefeated boxer and a clear contender to dominate over the years. Yordenis Ugas is a slightly younger boxer than Pacquiao with an impressive record of defeats and does not claim to be a milestone in boxing history. It is possible that the upcoming fight will be easy for Pacquiao, I think if it happens this way, everyone will be disappointed.

I'm watching his fight against Shawn Porter where he lost via SD, I think he is just too slow compared to Pacquiao and I can see an easy win by Pacquiao if he will just always be careful. This is the video of the full fight, courtesy of Premier Boxing Champions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwDc3BgZpk)

Yes, I saw this fight, Ugas was experiencing big problems throughout the fight due to the fact that he lagged behind in speed. By the way, I still don't understand why one of the judges gave the victory to Ugas - Porter was in the lead in shots and, therefore, points in almost every round.
It turns out that Ugas has only one hope - a knockout victory; in terms of points, he is unlikely to be able to defeat the faster Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on August 13, 2021, 08:16:15 AM

I'll go for the KO per round as it's more interesting for me.

Can you share some crypto-betting sites that offer other betting options for this match?

I want to see other betting options since checking a couple of my preferred sites, the only option is the winner of the match.

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Ok here's one way Pacquiao is motivated as per Roach,

He said that Pacquiao is pissed out, because the title that he won against Thurman was handed to Ugas without due process, so he was stripped with that belt. So he might go for a knock out against Ugas here to claim that belt back. But I don't know if this is true though, we all know that Roach is the one hyping Manny's fight so take it with a grain of salt.

Agreed. This is clearly Roach hyping the fight to sell more pay per views. This business is very much similar to cryptocoin ICOs, where if there are more buys, there will be more in the pockets of everyone involved hehe. From the promoters to the fighters and also the team including the trainers.

According to this news which was published before the cancellation. Terrence Crawford wanted to fight the winner of Pacman vs. Spence after his fight vs. Shawn Porter. This is clearly clickbait because Crawford vs. Porter has not yet been negotiated. I hope this is true, however. Boxing fans need Crawford vs. Spence hehehe.

Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter should happen before the end of 2021 and Crawford is already looking at his next opponent as he states he wants to fight the winner of Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr.

Source https://www.givemesport.com/1735622-terence-crawford-wants-to-fight-winner-of-manny-pacquiao-vs-errol-spence-jr

Crawford seemed to be so overconfident trying to underestimate the power of Porter, I am sure he has not fought anyone like Porter who is very aggressive and has a strong chin, if Porter was able to give Spence some problem, I think he can do the same on Crawford and could possibly beat him.

He is like a raging bull who always want for a kill, and he cannot be easily knockout as he is so strong.

I am quite certain that was also hyping himself when talking to the media to sell more pay per views for his own fight hehe. But he is one of the best welterweight boxers in the world and he might be arguably better than Errol Spence, I reckon.

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That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

This is understandable. Spence is a young undefeated boxer and a clear contender to dominate over the years. Yordenis Ugas is a slightly younger boxer than Pacquiao with an impressive record of defeats and does not claim to be a milestone in boxing history. It is possible that the upcoming fight will be easy for Pacquiao, I think if it happens this way, everyone will be disappointed.

I'm watching his fight against Shawn Porter where he lost via SD, I think he is just too slow compared to Pacquiao and I can see an easy win by Pacquiao if he will just always be careful. This is the video of the full fight, courtesy of Premier Boxing Champions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwDc3BgZpk)

I also think we will not see a competitive fight, it's either Ugas will just try to defend himself by running or he will take a risk and suffer the vicious defeat against Manny Pacquiao, the odds are just fair because it looks like it's an easy win, so I'll go for the KO per round as it's more interesting for me.

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That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

This is understandable. Spence is a young undefeated boxer and a clear contender to dominate over the years. Yordenis Ugas is a slightly younger boxer than Pacquiao with an impressive record of defeats and does not claim to be a milestone in boxing history. It is possible that the upcoming fight will be easy for Pacquiao, I think if it happens this way, everyone will be disappointed.

I'm watching his fight against Shawn Porter where he lost via SD, I think he is just too slow compared to Pacquiao and I can see an easy win by Pacquiao if he will just always be careful. This is the video of the full fight, courtesy of Premier Boxing Champions (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwDc3BgZpk)

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Quote from: Botnake on August 12, 2021, 04:33:07 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 12, 2021, 10:29:17 AM

That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

This is understandable. Spence is a young undefeated boxer and a clear contender to dominate over the years. Yordenis Ugas is a slightly younger boxer than Pacquiao with an impressive record of defeats and does not claim to be a milestone in boxing history. It is possible that the upcoming fight will be easy for Pacquiao, I think if it happens this way, everyone will be disappointed.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 12, 2021, 09:37:02 AM

The thread title has not been changed yet, but I think it's still understandable as we are all updated on what is happening. It's Pacquiao vs Ugas, and this is not as fun as our expectation with the Pacman vs Spence. Anyway, I think I'll make a thread for Pacman vs Ugas so we also have our own discussion on the specific fight, and it will be easy for everyone to search this fight on google.

true as you said, although it has been canceled but the thread above has not been deleted, we all know the fight has been cancelled, the long awaited boxing fight in 2021 between the legendary Manny Pacquiao against Errol Spence Jr is confirmed to be cancelled. The reason is known because Spence suffered an eye injury that did not allow him to get into the boxing ring. Of course the news was very surprising considering that the boxing fight was only a few days away. The plan is that Pacquiao and Spence will fight each other at the T-Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, United States on Sunday, August 22, 2021.

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Ok here's one way Pacquiao is motivated as per Roach,

He said that Pacquiao is pissed out, because the title that he won against Thurman was handed to Ugas without due process, so he was stripped with that belt. So he might go for a knock out against Ugas here to claim that belt back. But I don't know if this is true though, we all know that Roach is the one hyping Manny's fight so take it with a grain of salt.

Agreed. This is clearly Roach hyping the fight to sell more pay per views. This business is very much similar to cryptocoin ICOs, where if there are more buys, there will be more in the pockets of everyone involved hehe. From the promoters to the fighters and also the team including the trainers.

According to this news which was published before the cancellation. Terrence Crawford wanted to fight the winner of Pacman vs. Spence after his fight vs. Shawn Porter. This is clearly clickbait because Crawford vs. Porter has not yet been negotiated. I hope this is true, however. Boxing fans need Crawford vs. Spence hehehe.

Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter should happen before the end of 2021 and Crawford is already looking at his next opponent as he states he wants to fight the winner of Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr.

Source https://www.givemesport.com/1735622-terence-crawford-wants-to-fight-winner-of-manny-pacquiao-vs-errol-spence-jr

Crawford seemed to be so overconfident trying to underestimate the power of Porter, I am sure he has not fought anyone like Porter who is very aggressive and has a strong chin, if Porter was able to give Spence some problem, I think he can do the same on Crawford and could possibly beat him.

He is like a raging bull who always want for a kill, and he cannot be easily knockout as he is so strong.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 11, 2021, 06:54:48 PM

Ok here's one way Pacquiao is motivated as per Roach,

He said that Pacquiao is pissed out, because the title that he won against Thurman was handed to Ugas without due process, so he was stripped with that belt. So he might go for a knock out against Ugas here to claim that belt back. But I don't know if this is true though, we all know that Roach is the one hyping Manny's fight so take it with a grain of salt.

Agreed. This is clearly Roach hyping the fight to sell more pay per views. This business is very much similar to cryptocoin ICOs, where if there are more buys, there will be more in the pockets of everyone involved hehe. From the promoters to the fighters and also the team including the trainers.

According to this news which was published before the cancellation. Terrence Crawford wanted to fight the winner of Pacman vs. Spence after his fight vs. Shawn Porter. This is clearly clickbait because Crawford vs. Porter has not yet been negotiated. I hope this is true, however. Boxing fans need Crawford vs. Spence hehehe.

Terence Crawford vs Shawn Porter should happen before the end of 2021 and Crawford is already looking at his next opponent as he states he wants to fight the winner of Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr.

Source https://www.givemesport.com/1735622-terence-crawford-wants-to-fight-winner-of-manny-pacquiao-vs-errol-spence-jr

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I think it's time now to close the thread for any discussions regarding Pacquiao and Spence Jr.

We won't have any information for this until next year as early, I believed.

Let's continue the discussion of the new changes on Pacquiao's August 21 bout here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354098.0;

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Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

The level of competition is a major aspect, there is no debate that Errol Spence is going to be a tough challenge for any fighter and Manny Pacquiao is returning after a long gap and the age is a major factor but now his competition level has changed and he is not going to face any undefeated fighter but a short time replacement Yordenis Ugas and i will be surprised if he somehow able to defeat Manny.

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However, the coefficient on Ugas is very attractive, if you think objectively, he could have won one fight out of three against Pacquiao, which means that the bet on Ugas is profitable. Maybe I'll make a bet, at the moment I want even more analytics

Not against your view but as a member of the PH community here, we know and understand the gap between Pacquiao and Ugas. Pacquiao is already in preparation for Spence for several weeks now while Ugas got surprised and I doubt he can maximize his training for about over a week now against Pacquiao.

But it's up to you if you still want to bet on Ugas. Profitable of course because of the odds but risky to take that and even it will rose to 4 or 5, I will pass.

That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

I do even saw some memes on facebook about being a punching bag.I dont have any tracks nor being aware about on how Ugas do fight but this isnt something an opponent which could really go toe to toe with manny.

Its just sad that Spence vs Pacquiao didnt push through due to those unexpected events or injuries but for sure the interest on that previous arrangement isnt the same on what we do have here.

They might still sell some PPV but wont really be the same when Spence is his opponent but its not bad to check out this fight though.

The fight was announced early and PPV was available early so I think some people have already bought the subscription and they will not be able to ask for a refund, it's still a great fight to watch as we have our very own Manny Pacquiao continue in making a legacy in the sports of boxing.

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However, the coefficient on Ugas is very attractive, if you think objectively, he could have won one fight out of three against Pacquiao, which means that the bet on Ugas is profitable. Maybe I'll make a bet, at the moment I want even more analytics

Not against your view but as a member of the PH community here, we know and understand the gap between Pacquiao and Ugas. Pacquiao is already in preparation for Spence for several weeks now while Ugas got surprised and I doubt he can maximize his training for about over a week now against Pacquiao.

But it's up to you if you still want to bet on Ugas. Profitable of course because of the odds but risky to take that and even it will rose to 4 or 5, I will pass.

That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

I do even saw some memes on facebook about being a punching bag.I dont have any tracks nor being aware about on how Ugas do fight but this isnt something an opponent which could really go toe to toe with manny.

Its just sad that Spence vs Pacquiao didnt push through due to those unexpected events or injuries but for sure the interest on that previous arrangement isnt the same on what we do have here.

They might still sell some PPV but wont really be the same when Spence is his opponent but its not bad to check out this fight though.

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However, the coefficient on Ugas is very attractive, if you think objectively, he could have won one fight out of three against Pacquiao, which means that the bet on Ugas is profitable. Maybe I'll make a bet, at the moment I want even more analytics

Not against your view but as a member of the PH community here, we know and understand the gap between Pacquiao and Ugas. Pacquiao is already in preparation for Spence for several weeks now while Ugas got surprised and I doubt he can maximize his training for about over a week now against Pacquiao.

But it's up to you if you still want to bet on Ugas. Profitable of course because of the odds but risky to take that and even it will rose to 4 or 5, I will pass.

That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

Suddenly people stop talking about the age of Pacquiao that he is old and he might get injured seriously. But anyway, Yordenis Ugás is not as young as Errol Spence, he is already 35 years but at that age he might still be in his prime. Lots of possibilities in this fight, but all I can see now is that people are thinking it's just an easy fight for Manny Pacquiao.

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Quote from: chaser15 on August 12, 2021, 07:58:05 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on August 12, 2021, 06:28:51 AM

However, the coefficient on Ugas is very attractive, if you think objectively, he could have won one fight out of three against Pacquiao, which means that the bet on Ugas is profitable. Maybe I'll make a bet, at the moment I want even more analytics

Not against your view but as a member of the PH community here, we know and understand the gap between Pacquiao and Ugas. Pacquiao is already in preparation for Spence for several weeks now while Ugas got surprised and I doubt he can maximize his training for about over a week now against Pacquiao.

But it's up to you if you still want to bet on Ugas. Profitable of course because of the odds but risky to take that and even it will rose to 4 or 5, I will pass.

That is, do you think that Ugas is so much weaker than Pacquiao that he will not be able to win one of 5 fights against him (if it were possible to conduct 5 such fights in identical conditions)? It turns out that if you're right, then the 1.26 odds on Pacquiao's victory are super beneficial and you can make an all-in for this outcome?

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The thread title has not been changed yet, but I think it's still understandable as we are all updated on what is happening. It's Pacquiao vs Ugas, and this is not as fun as our expectation with the Pacman vs Spence. Anyway, I think I'll make a thread for Pacman vs Ugas so we also have our own discussion on the specific fight, and it will be easy for everyone to search this fight on google.

I'm also thinking of making a specific thread for Pacquiao vs Ugas fight but since you think of this idea first then please do so because i think OP is not so active reading on this thread.

The firepower expectation next week seems to taper a lot and it seems that most of the fans are so not so excited anymore of this matchup.

IMO, this is some sort of a tune-up fight for Pacman before retiring hehe. He can't fight next year because of the lection in the Philippines so i think this could be his farewell fight.

And there's no chance he will fight again if he wins the presidency, let's hope he will lose so he will go back to boxing. lol.. Okay, let's discuss the Ugas vs Pacquiao fight, but I'll tell, I have not so familiar with his opponent but they said he is also a great boxer.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 12, 2021, 09:37:02 AM

The thread title has not been changed yet, but I think it's still understandable as we are all updated on what is happening. It's Pacquiao vs Ugas, and this is not as fun as our expectation with the Pacman vs Spence. Anyway, I think I'll make a thread for Pacman vs Ugas so we also have our own discussion on the specific fight, and it will be easy for everyone to search this fight on google.

I'm also thinking of making a specific thread for Pacquiao vs Ugas fight but since you think of this idea first then please do so because i think OP is not so active reading on this thread.

The firepower expectation next week seems to taper a lot and it seems that most of the fans are so not so excited anymore of this matchup.

IMO, this is some sort of a tune-up fight for Pacman before retiring hehe. He can't fight next year because of the lection in the Philippines so i think this could be his farewell fight.

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