[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 4.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 11, 2021, 06:54:48 PM

Ok here's one way Pacquiao is motivated as per Roach,

He said that Pacquiao is pissed out, because the title that he won against Thurman was handed to Ugas without due process, so he was stripped with that belt. So he might go for a knock out against Ugas here to claim that belt back. But I don't know if this is true though, we all know that Roach is the one hyping Manny's fight so take it with a grain of salt.

Roach has been promising a knockout for like the past 10 fights. Ugas has never been knocked out and Pacquiao only has 1 knockout in the past decade. I don't think Pacquiao coming off a 2 year layoff at 42 years old will be capable of getting the KO in this fight even if it is a late replacement opponent.

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I just learned that the fight is now cancelled and somebody steps up as a replacement because Spence Jr is having a condition on his eye. He wait for this but ended up disappointed. I wonder what about the preparation of the new boxer that Pacquiao will face? He was surprised I believed. Spence Jr won't have maybe a chance to fight Pacquiao as the latter is now aging and close to retirement.

The closest possible time he can still fight Manny is by next year.

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Quote from: blockman on August 11, 2021, 06:43:43 PM

But for him to say that he might still fight Pacquiao in the future? we will never know how negotiations are going to happen by that time. Pacquiao is known to be in another focus after this match so I guess if it's going to be a year or two, we'll never know if it's still possible or it could possibly be that Pacquiao already announces his retirement.

If Pacquiao will lose in the Election, he will fight again in the ring. It's just about less than a year to go before the election so it's not that long to wait. Spence Jr at that time is now recovered.

Pacquiao won't hang his gloves yet unless the new opponent will knock him out sending Pacquiao to retirement.

I see Pacquiao will still fight 2-3 times if he loses in the election. That was 1-2 years and his age will be around 43-44 years.

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Ok here's one way Pacquiao is motivated as per Roach,

He said that Pacquiao is pissed out, because the title that he won against Thurman was handed to Ugas without due process, so he was stripped with that belt. So he might go for a knock out against Ugas here to claim that belt back. But I don't know if this is true though, we all know that Roach is the one hyping Manny's fight so take it with a grain of salt.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

The decision was already been released and there's no way to revert it back. We have to accept the reality that Pacquiao vs Spence Jr won't be a thing anymore. What we can do right now is to accept the fact and wish a speedy recovery for Errol on his eye injury.
But for him to say that he might still fight Pacquiao in the future? we will never know how negotiations are going to happen by that time. Pacquiao is known to be in another focus after this match so I guess if it's going to be a year or two, we'll never know if it's still possible or it could possibly be that Pacquiao already announces his retirement.

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@freedomgo, I trust Pacman till the end but it is sad that some people still consider his age as a hindrance for him.

You can't control what they should think, it's their personal opinion and we should be honest here.
We are fans of Manny while some are fans of Spence, and that will make the discussion very productive as we have opinions from different sites.

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Yeah, I can't control people decisions or have a final say about their presumption on the fight but I was rep Pacman (since I'm one his fan) by noting out some truth about the fight because this is not the first time Pacman will fight with a dangerous young boxer which also have the punches of destruction and in the end, he came out to be the winner.

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Quote from: yazher on August 11, 2021, 06:03:14 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

As you said, we can't blame anybody for what happened cause it was an accident and no one really wants that to happen. especially when the fight has only a few days left. The guy wanted the fight but circumstances don't allow him this time. As for Ugas, I think he needs to double his training from now on or I may say he is destined to lose this fight since Manny Pacquiao is the one who really needs this fight to show an amazing performance for the upcoming election. Hmmm.. looks like something is going on here, I hope my speculations are just delusions.

No one really likes for this thing to happen even Spence himself.Injuries like this could really happen from time to time unexpectedly if they wont really be that careful in terms of their training which would really might

result into unfortunate events like this which would really cause that postponement of event and no one really likes that rather than if its intentional but its really just dumb to consider that they've been doing that

just to make up some excuse? I dont really believe that Spence is scared of Pacquiao on where most people been saying as of this moment specially to those countrymen of Pacquiao which i dont see for it to be
that way.

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There is a tweet of Spence that he canceled the fight. This isn't confirmed yet but there is a facebook viral post about this game being canceled already. But I guess he chicken out his biggest fight here. This is a very big fight of his life where he can make a lot of money. I have no idea about what happened but the coins I allocate for this fight will be used somewhere else which is good in a way.

If you have read the past posts mate, it's confirmed. He got an eye injury.

And his going to be replaced by another fighter so the fight with Pacquiao will continue but with another boxer.

That’s right, the trainings of Manny will not be wasted because he will still fight another boxer. Not sure if its same date, is it going to happen on the same day?

Manny should not lose his focus, since I’ve heard that we will still fight another great boxer so if he didn’t take this seriously, he might lose. Anyway, praying as well for the recovery of Errol, I hope that this is not just an excuse and a pure incident.

Details are out there, you only have to check them.

Manny is still in focused but I guess he's disappointed with the news and it's just one day when the announcement has been made.

And I think that everyone has already absorbed the news and prolly moved on already.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

As you said, we can't blame anybody for what happened cause it was an accident and no one really wants that to happen. especially when the fight has only a few days left. The guy wanted the fight but circumstances don't allow him this time. As for Ugas, I think he needs to double his training from now on or I may say he is destined to lose this fight since Manny Pacquiao is the one who really needs this fight to show an amazing performance for the upcoming election. Hmmm.. looks like something is going on here, I hope my speculations are just delusions.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 11, 2021, 05:56:07 PM

Quote from: stadus on August 11, 2021, 05:49:36 PM

I'm disappointed because my bet was cancelled, I can't anymore bet on Pacquiao as an underdog as the current odds against Ugas, he is a heavy favorites.

Odds in sportsbet

Manny Pacquiao 1.26
Yordenis Ugas 3.45

Also, the title thread should be changed now to Manny Pacquiao vs Yordenis Ugas. I feel you. Since Pacquiao is the favorite on this match, the odds are quite low which is not very favorable to those who want to bet on him. But anyway, if you are really rooting for Pac, just bet any amount you feel comfortable of. Still betting on Pac even at low odds. Hope he can finish the fight early with TKO.

If there are TKO odds, it would be nice but currently, there are only limited odds, the money line is only present, no other odds at all, probably sportsbook are currently preparing the odds as they themselves did not see this coming too.

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Quote from: stadus on August 11, 2021, 05:49:36 PM

I'm disappointed because my bet was cancelled, I can't anymore bet on Pacquiao as an underdog as the current odds against Ugas, he is a heavy favorites.

Odds in sportsbet

Manny Pacquiao 1.26
Yordenis Ugas 3.45

Also, the title thread should be changed now to Manny Pacquiao vs Yordenis Ugas. I feel you. Since Pacquiao is the favorite on this match, the odds are quite low which is not very favorable to those who want to bet on him. But anyway, if you are really rooting for Pac, just bet any amount you feel comfortable of. Still betting on Pac even at low odds. Hope he can finish the fight early with TKO.

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I'm disappointed because my bet was cancelled, I can't anymore bet on Pacquiao as an underdog as the current odds against Ugas, he is a heavy favorites.

Odds in sportsbet

Manny Pacquiao 1.26
Yordenis Ugas 3.45

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

True, this is one of the worst injury in boxing, SRL has this, not sure if it was detected before his fight, but it was a career ending for him. I remember watching a video of his doing some exhibitions for the public, I forget the name of the other boxer or celebrity. But when he hits SRL on the eye, it suddenly turns into a serious boxing exhibitions. It's good that we have advancement as far as detecting this kind of injury, because of Spence continue to fight, maybe it will be severely damage by Pacquiao unintentionally.

It was Spence who felt it, he said, he felt something in his left eye that is not normal, so he came to the doctors to get it checked and they have the some findings. All these doctors, they can attest that Spence is telling the truth, so there's a valid reason why he withdraws the fight. Pacman on the other hand is very nice, he wish Spence a fast recovery so they'll meet someday again, who knows.

Now, only Crawford is a possible big opponent of Pacquiao, hopefully we will see this fight before he retires.

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Quote from: smyslov on August 11, 2021, 11:14:24 AM

Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 11, 2021, 09:49:23 AM

This is why a lot of boxing fans are upset because they felt they were scammed and wanted refund. A lot of us are excited to see Pacquiao vs Spence but unfortunately, it is not happening. And now, the odds are in favor of Pacquiao, the underdog now is Ugas. Don't know if bookies will attract bettors because of the turn of events.

Ugas cannot be compared to Spence, Spence is way better fans have reason to be disappointed especially the fans of Spence, but the welfare of any boxer is important, they have the right to get a refund but the Ugas Pacquiao is also a very interesting fight, this is not a good way to end Pacquiao career fighting a lesser-known opponent.

Pacquiao's career might still continue, who knows though, if he could easily defeat his opponent, he might end up having a fight early next year. I don't know how he will manage his time as I'm sure he will also be busy with his political life, but knowing Manny, he can do everything so let's just trust him.

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Quote from: Twinkledoe on August 11, 2021, 09:49:23 AM

This is why a lot of boxing fans are upset because they felt they were scammed and wanted refund. A lot of us are excited to see Pacquiao vs Spence but unfortunately, it is not happening. And now, the odds are in favor of Pacquiao, the underdog now is Ugas. Don't know if bookies will attract bettors because of the turn of events.

Ugas cannot be compared to Spence, Spence is way better fans have reason to be disappointed especially the fans of Spence, but the welfare of any boxer is important, they have the right to get a refund but the Ugas Pacquiao is also a very interesting fight, this is not a good way to end Pacquiao career fighting a lesser-known opponent.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on August 11, 2021, 09:33:20 AM

Quote from: Japinat on August 11, 2021, 08:08:04 AM

Anyone is ready to take over, Ugas was the undercard or they called co main event of that suppose to be big event, but since Spence is not available, we have Ugas here who are willing to take the opportunity to fight the legend.

No decision yet as to who's going to take over Spence, I think it's just delayed but not yet cancelled meaning that there's a possibility that this fight is still going to happen even though it sounds like it's unclear yet, hope to see this fight because Pacquiao hasn't been in the ring for awhile now and I want to see him fight again.

It has been all over the news already, Ugas will take over Spence. You can also read above posts. You can see a lot of articles already but giving you one below.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/31999080/manny-pacquiao-fight-yordenis-ugas-errol-spence-jr

This is why a lot of boxing fans are upset because they felt they were scammed and wanted refund. A lot of us are excited to see Pacquiao vs Spence but unfortunately, it is not happening. And now, the odds are in favor of Pacquiao, the underdog now is Ugas. Don't know if bookies will attract bettors because of the turn of events.

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Quote from: Japinat on August 11, 2021, 08:08:04 AM

Anyone is ready to take over, Ugas was the undercard or they called co main event of that suppose to be big event, but since Spence is not available, we have Ugas here who are willing to take the opportunity to fight the legend.

No decision yet as to who's going to take over Spence, I think it's just delayed but not yet cancelled meaning that there's a possibility that this fight is still going to happen even though it sounds like it's unclear yet, hope to see this fight because Pacquiao hasn't been in the ring for awhile now and I want to see him fight again.

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Quote from: Reatim on August 11, 2021, 07:24:27 AM

Ugas record is not that bad at all , and what amazed me like what you said is the idea that Ugas seems to be ready and trained to take over for Spence position > Grin

this fight must happen now because the Philippine election is near to come and Manny will be busy campaigning for sure.

It sounds like it was just set at the right moment and he's that ready. Something might be up but who knows? That's what I thought because it's something to be busy for and I guess he needs to win this fight to make a fragrance across the political arena again, bringing victory for the country.

I haven't seen any fight with this Ugas but I guess this will be tough too to fight Manny from here on out with little preparation. Your thoughts, win or lose will Manny retires or not?

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Quote from: aioc on August 11, 2021, 08:36:24 AM

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Ugas record is not that bad at all , and what amazed me like what you said is the idea that Ugas seems to be ready and trained to take over for Spence position > Grin

this fight must happen now because the Philippine election is near to come and Manny will be busy campaigning for sure.

The fact that he is holding a belt and he is one of tough fighter in that division it's still going to be an interesting fight I have seen his fight against Porter which I believe he won but it was given to Porter, it's already in the past and Ugas could make history if he beats Pacquiao, Yeah Manny to fight and wins so he can go home and become a hero again and start his campaign, is going up in a much higher position so he needs this win.

well the ring is the only place where decision can be made, if he can beat Manny then be it but surely he needs more toughness and dedication and also experience and power punches to make this happen.
as Manny had proven already his skills and capacity over the years.
and this Underdog has the chance in trying that skill to fight .
lets see how the ODDS will be and decide in which we need to put our bets .

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 11, 2021, 07:38:17 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

Even Spence himself is disappointed because of what happen but that is what athletes can't prevent - to get an injury. Even Spence said that he will be the one to make Manny retire but it seems that it will not happen because of the retinal tear in his left eye.

Now going to his new opponent Yordenis Ugás. His professional record is 30 Wins 4 Losses and 12 of his wins coming from a way of Knockout. Comparing to Spence, Spence is a better fighter than him but lets not forget that a single punch can change the momentum of the fight. I'm not belittling Ugás because he is a Bronze Medalist in World Olympics but I think that Pacquiao can win this fight.

Ugas is also a very tough opponent for Manny no doubt. But he doesn't have the knock out power, and maybe Manny will take walk in and will try to bully Ugas and will go for a knock out win. Of course, Ugas has a punchers chance, but we all know that after the Marquez knock out, Manny seems to be very careful, but when the opportunity to close in and get a knock out win, he will surely go for in. Yeah, hopefully, after a win by Manny and Spence is fully healed maybe we can see them finally in the ring.

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