[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 5.

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Quote from: Reatim on August 11, 2021, 07:24:27 AM

Ugas record is not that bad at all , and what amazed me like what you said is the idea that Ugas seems to be ready and trained to take over for Spence position > Grin

this fight must happen now because the Philippine election is near to come and Manny will be busy campaigning for sure.

The fact that he is holding a belt and he is one of tough fighter in that division it's still going to be an interesting fight I have seen his fight against Porter which I believe he won but it was given to Porter, it's already in the past and Ugas could make history if he beats Pacquiao, Yeah Manny to fight and wins so he can go home and become a hero again and start his campaign, is going up in a much higher position so he needs this win.

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Quote from: Reatim on August 11, 2021, 07:24:27 AM

Ugas record is not that bad at all , and what amazed me like what you said is the idea that Ugas seems to be ready and trained to take over for Spence position > Grin

this fight must happen now because the Philippine election is near to come and Manny will be busy campaigning for sure.

Anyone is ready to take over, Ugas was the undercard or they called co main event of that suppose to be big event, but since Spence is not available, we have Ugas here who are willing to take the opportunity to fight the legend.

yeah and knowing how popular MaNNY is, for sure all the boxers are willing to face him and have a chance fighting him over the ring before the man retires.
this can be a record of each boxers if one chance that they will become the last boxer who fight manny pacquiao if Manny decide to retire and focus in politics forever.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

that's unfortunate. I was really excited about this fight. but if he wants to continue his career it would be best to follow his doctor's recommendation.

Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:45:43 AM

I'm just curious, what would happen to the people who already bought the PPV subscription? they paid for Spence vs Manny but they'll see another boxer in the ring, maybe the PPV will cost lower than the original price now.

It's probably they get the option of a refund or be able to use the PPV they bought to watch the Pacquiao VS Ugas. I'd assume a lot of Spence fans would want a refund since Spence won't be fighting anymore.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

True, this is one of the worst injury in boxing, SRL has this, not sure if it was detected before his fight, but it was a career ending for him. I remember watching a video of his doing some exhibitions for the public, I forget the name of the other boxer or celebrity. But when he hits SRL on the eye, it suddenly turns into a serious boxing exhibitions. It's good that we have advancement as far as detecting this kind of injury, because of Spence continue to fight, maybe it will be severely damage by Pacquiao unintentionally.

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Quote from: Reatim on August 11, 2021, 07:24:27 AM

Ugas record is not that bad at all , and what amazed me like what you said is the idea that Ugas seems to be ready and trained to take over for Spence position > Grin

this fight must happen now because the Philippine election is near to come and Manny will be busy campaigning for sure.

Anyone is ready to take over, Ugas was the undercard or they called co main event of that suppose to be big event, but since Spence is not available, we have Ugas here who are willing to take the opportunity to fight the legend.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 11, 2021, 07:38:17 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

Even Spence himself is disappointed because of what happen but that is what athletes can't prevent - to get an injury. Even Spence said that he will be the one to make Manny retire but it seems that it will not happen because of the retinal tear in his left eye.

Now going to his new opponent Yordenis Ugás. His professional record is 30 Wins 4 Losses and 12 of his wins coming from a way of Knockout. Comparing to Spence, Spence is a better fighter than him but lets not forget that a single punch can change the momentum of the fight. I'm not belittling Ugás because he is a Bronze Medalist in World Olympics but I think that Pacquiao can win this fight.

I hope this is still a good fight to watch If Yordenis Ugás will fight Manny toe to toe, then we will not regret for buying the PPV. I'm just curious, what would happen to the people who already bought the PPV subscription? they paid for Spence vs Manny but they'll see another boxer in the ring, maybe the PPV will cost lower than the original price now.

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Quote from: Sanitough on August 11, 2021, 07:34:12 AM

I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

Even Spence himself is disappointed because of what happen but that is what athletes can't prevent - to get an injury. Even Spence said that he will be the one to make Manny retire but it seems that it will not happen because of the retinal tear in his left eye.

Now going to his new opponent Yordenis Ugás. His professional record is 26 Wins 4 Losses and 12 of his wins coming from a way of Knockout. Comparing to Spence, Spence is a better fighter than him but lets not forget that a single punch can change the momentum of the fight. I'm not belittling Ugás because he is a Bronze Medalist in World Olympics but I think that Pacquiao can win this fight.

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I'm a little bit disappointed but we have to accept that Spence cannot fight, he just follows the advice of his 3 doctors and his condition could become severe if he chooses to fight Manny Pacquiao. I think he will undergo an operation and the healing process might be long, but Spence said he will come back, so hopefully, they will still fight again in a year or two.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on August 11, 2021, 07:12:12 AM

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Quote from: toast on August 11, 2021, 04:02:30 AM

Do you think Manny Pacquiao have a chance on winning in this one? Looks like the odds is in favor with Spence, we all know how great Pacquiao but this is a newer and stronger generation but we will see it. I bet this would be a great match in the history.

Sorry, you mean Manny Pacquiao's match with whom because Manny Pacquiao's match against Errol Spence Jr was officially canceled due to an incident where Errol Spence Jr suffered a tear in his left retina.
and Spence is not allowed to play Pacquiao to avoid things that are not desirable, but Manny Pacquiao will still play against a different opponent, Yordenis Ugas and will still take place on 21 August.

Woah, that's totally news but it looks like this Ugas was prepared when he was selected to fight Manny. Well, let's see how this goes but a good news from PacMan is he's releasing his own NFT. Here's his tweet about the NFT: https://twitter.com/MannyPacquiao/status/1425167457870749699?s=19 and to those who loves and an avid fan of the People's Champ surely will get this.

From PacToken now here it goes a NFT ? Manny is reallya crypto believing person lol.

but lets go back to the topic .

Ugas record is not that bad at all , and what amazed me like what you said is the idea that Ugas seems to be ready and trained to take over for Spence position > Grin

this fight must happen now because the Philippine election is near to come and Manny will be busy campaigning for sure.

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Quote from: rodskee on August 11, 2021, 06:56:56 AM

Quote from: Obito on August 11, 2021, 06:35:51 AM

It seems that the fight is in shambles, the match is uncertain after what happened to Spence and I think that it's going to be favorable to Pacquaio if this match is going to be delayed and not cancelled, meaans more time for Pacquaio to condition himself into his utmost possible condition.

Lol , pacquiao needs to condition himself more? at least you are not serious on this mate because if there is a confident and advantageous in this fight then it is Manny and not errol.
lucky for errol that he had been injured because for sure he will face His darkest boxing career against Manny pacqiuao .
But lets see the official announcement if Ugas will be the one that Manny will face and if the same date will happen or adjusted.

There's a joke going in the social media that it's not TEAR that they saw in Spence's eye but it's FEAR so they advise him to back out in the fight
Cheesy

anyway, he is facing Ugas it was confirmed, Ugas is good but lacks ring generalship and dominance he loves to slug it out, I will not rule out an upset because Ugas is capable and he is one of toughest in the division.

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Quote from: bitzizzix on August 11, 2021, 07:08:26 AM

Quote from: toast on August 11, 2021, 04:02:30 AM

Do you think Manny Pacquiao have a chance on winning in this one? Looks like the odds is in favor with Spence, we all know how great Pacquiao but this is a newer and stronger generation but we will see it. I bet this would be a great match in the history.

Sorry, you mean Manny Pacquiao's match with whom because Manny Pacquiao's match against Errol Spence Jr was officially canceled due to an incident where Errol Spence Jr suffered a tear in his left retina.
and Spence is not allowed to play Pacquiao to avoid things that are not desirable, but Manny Pacquiao will still play against a different opponent, Yordenis Ugas and will still take place on 21 August.

Woah, that's totally news but it looks like this Ugas was prepared when he was selected to fight Manny. Well, let's see how this goes but a good news from PacMan is he's releasing his own NFT. Here's his tweet about the NFT: https://twitter.com/MannyPacquiao/status/1425167457870749699?s=19 and to those who loves and an avid fan of the People's Champ surely will get this.

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Quote from: toast on August 11, 2021, 04:02:30 AM

Do you think Manny Pacquiao have a chance on winning in this one? Looks like the odds is in favor with Spence, we all know how great Pacquiao but this is a newer and stronger generation but we will see it. I bet this would be a great match in the history.

Sorry, you mean Manny Pacquiao's match with whom because Manny Pacquiao's match against Errol Spence Jr was officially canceled due to an incident where Errol Spence Jr suffered a tear in his left retina.
and Spence is not allowed to continue the match to avoid things that are not desirable, but Manny Pacquiao will still play against a different opponent, namely with Yordenis Ugas and will still take place on 21 August.

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Quote from: Obito on August 11, 2021, 06:35:51 AM

It seems that the fight is in shambles, the match is uncertain after what happened to Spence and I think that it's going to be favorable to Pacquaio if this match is going to be delayed and not cancelled, meaans more time for Pacquaio to condition himself into his utmost possible condition.

Lol , pacquiao needs to condition himself more? at least you are not serious on this mate because if there is a confident and advantageous in this fight then it is Manny and not errol.
lucky for errol that he had been injured because for sure he will face His darkest boxing career against Manny pacqiuao .
But lets see the official announcement if Ugas will be the one that Manny will face and if the same date will happen or adjusted.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 11, 2021, 12:11:56 AM

Well, it seems to me that it is not news that arouses much joy even for Manny fans, the fact that Spence is not present if it takes away some of the emotion from the show, now as Ugas will replace it, I do not know how much they can raise for it, Although now the trend for betting may change and go in another direction, the preparation by Yordenis must be under a lot of pressure, only 10 days is not enough, the physical preparation for the fights is everything. There are bettors who seek to make appraisals for athletes, and according to that is what they make the decision to place bets, I think that evaluating Yordenis right now will be somewhat more complicated because there is little time left.

It seems that the bookmakers are also in confusion, since they have not yet announced the odds on which they will accept bets in the new pair (or have I looked badly?). I don’t think Pacquiao will be the clear favorite in the match with Ugas, but I can assume that due to the large number of fans, bookmakers will have to treat him as such.
I can assume that the odds will be like 1.5 on Pacquiao and 2.3 on Ugas.

Looking at professional record of Ugas which have low percentage of K.O we can say that the advantage is with Manny for sure he will be the fan favorite to bet on this match and I'm not kinda excited about his new opponent since it seems the fight will became boring but let see who knows Ugas could give a hard time to many to win this match up. But I bet this fight will go to Manny and seems the promoter of this fight helping Manny to get a easy win due to some personal reasons.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 10, 2021, 06:17:07 PM

Edit: It has been voided, for those who haven't seen or has not experience a bet being voided, here are the images:

This answers my question. The match has been voided but are you still fond of betting Pacquiao versus Ugas?

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 10, 2021, 08:57:24 PM

Why does this happen only 10 days before the biggest boxing fight of the year? I cannot stop myself from being skeptical about this. This might be a rugpull hehehe. Pacman had more chance than what much of the people thought. Watch Spence vs. Porter. Pacman can win by using a similar tactic.

That definition is likely. It's my first time to see such an incident like this as if we're just near to the fight night then someone has to rugpull* for that match. Now there are the theories and thoughts that's going to play in our minds if there's really an actual reason beside that injury.

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It seems that the fight is in shambles, the match is uncertain after what happened to Spence and I think that it's going to be favorable to Pacquaio if this match is going to be delayed and not cancelled, meaans more time for Pacquaio to condition himself into his utmost possible condition.

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Quote from: toast on August 11, 2021, 04:02:30 AM

Do you think Manny Pacquiao have a chance on winning in this one? Looks like the odds is in favor with Spence, we all know how great Pacquiao but this is a newer and stronger generation but we will see it. I bet this would be a great match in the history.

Nope because the game between these 2 fighters are not going to happen

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Errol Spence Jr. out of Manny Pacquiao fight because of eye injury; Yordenis Ugas takes his place

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/errol-spence-jr-out-of-manny-pacquiao-fight-because-of-eye-injury-yordenis-ugas-takes-his-place/

meaning it is UGAS is the new contender in this bout , so meaning the odds will not be happening and the fight may be reset if things don't follow as required.

Good that this happen because i am short of budget bow and i can't take part of betting for Manny lol.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on August 11, 2021, 12:11:56 AM

Well, it seems to me that it is not news that arouses much joy even for Manny fans, the fact that Spence is not present if it takes away some of the emotion from the show, now as Ugas will replace it, I do not know how much they can raise for it, Although now the trend for betting may change and go in another direction, the preparation by Yordenis must be under a lot of pressure, only 10 days is not enough, the physical preparation for the fights is everything. There are bettors who seek to make appraisals for athletes, and according to that is what they make the decision to place bets, I think that evaluating Yordenis right now will be somewhat more complicated because there is little time left.

It seems that the bookmakers are also in confusion, since they have not yet announced the odds on which they will accept bets in the new pair (or have I looked badly?). I don’t think Pacquiao will be the clear favorite in the match with Ugas, but I can assume that due to the large number of fans, bookmakers will have to treat him as such.
I can assume that the odds will be like 1.5 on Pacquiao and 2.3 on Ugas.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 11, 2021, 01:25:10 AM

I do hope that Pacquiao will not fall for this so called 'replacement curse'.

He is already a veteran of this sports so for sure him and his team will prepare for any eventually against Ugas. Yordenis is one lucky guy though, not sure if there will be some adjustments are far as purse is concern, but it's going to be a honor to fight a legendary boxer of our generation. Spence really needs to cancel the fight and get the operation done of him ASAP.

Manny Pacquiao first became popular in the US when he beat Ledwaba on a spectacular display of skills as a substitute/replacement opponent for the latter. Manny was unknown at that time so Ledwada was short of time studying the southpaw Pacman and thus lost that fight which lead to the downfall of his career, so i think Manny is very well aware of this replacement curse.

For sure there are adjustments on the purse that Ugas will receive as he will be fighting the legend and also some sort of luring him to take the fight.

IMO, this would be an easy fight for Manny, easier than a fight with Mikey Garcia.

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Do you think Manny Pacquiao have a chance on winning in this one? Looks like the odds is in favor with Spence, we all know how great Pacquiao but this is a newer and stronger generation but we will see it. I bet this would be a great match in the history.

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