Topic: [Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 34. (Read 8247 times)

Quote from: freedomgo on June 28, 2021, 04:18:51 PM

They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.

Three million dollars to stand aside is a huge sum and it depends upon whether Mayweather and his management will be willing to give that kind of money. The problem is that how much money the management is planning to make with Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence and what is the pay share each fighters are getting, if we know those guaranteed purses we will know whether they will settle it and continue with this fight.

Why is Mayweather here? the fight is between Manny and Spence and the lawsuit was coming from Paradigm Sports,

https://sports.inquirer.net/427126/pacquiao-faces-breach-of-contract-lawsuit-from-paradigm-sports

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Manny Pacquiao will have one more fight before he takes on Errol Spence Jr. in August.

As per The Athletic, combat sports manager Audie Attar has filed a lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao claiming the eight-division world champion breached contract when he agreed to fight Spence for WBC and IBF welterweight titles.

Manny should have a fight before this fight, and that is the fight against Garcia but it did not happen, that's the reason why the case happen.

From what I've understood in the article, Paradigm Sports would not sue Manny if only he fights Mayweather or the two will have a rematch.

Clearly, this is a way for Paradigm to disrupt this fight and possibly milk some money out of the Pacman camp.

This issue has already reached the camp of the Filipino camp and they said that this lawsuit will not win against them, hopefully.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 26, 2021, 09:37:29 PM

It is looking uncertain whether this fight will happen. Pacquiao is being sued by his manager Audie Attar for breach of contract. Attar's company Paradigm Sports was negotiating a Pacquiao vs. Mikey Garcia fight when Pacquiao instead decided to sign a contract for the Spence fight.

https://theathletic.com/news/manny-pacquiao-faces-lawsuit-saying-he-veered-from-mikey-garcia-for-errol-spence/42bUGIF0hGnL

I've just seen this news lately and I'm surprised what just happened. I thought that Pacquiao - Spence is already going to happen without any problems.

But an interesting surprise came out. Let's see how things will go for Pacquiao.

I guess Manny had already signed a contract on the Garica fight, that's why there's a breach of contract. I have not read the content of the news yet, but it's pretty obvious that they are just looking for money that's why they sue Manny. Why can't they just wait after this fight, regardless of the result, I'm sure Manny could still fight Garcia if that's how the contract will be fulfilled.

Well.

They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.

We cannot listen to one side only, there's a court that determines the case, it's not us.

In fact, Manny's camp downplayed this lawsuit, so most probably they know something that will not harm them and they continue what they are doing.

The timing is so obvious, they are just trying to disrupt a big fight and make money from it, that's it, but it's a long process, it's not decided right away, so like I said, let's wait for the court decision and let's stop speculating.

It's okay to discuss. We just have to wait if it's in the court.

Hmmmm, right. The timing is very obvious as their fight goes nigh and by chance, they want to stop the match or just want to create a ruckus so they get the attention.

But I think instead of putting it on media, they should've reached out the team quietly and discuss the issues with them.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 28, 2021, 04:19:57 PM

They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.

Three million dollars to stand aside is a huge sum and it depends upon whether Mayweather and his management will be willing to give that kind of money. The problem is that how much money the management is planning to make with Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence and what is the pay share each fighters are getting, if we know those guaranteed purses we will know whether they will settle it and continue with this fight.

Why is Mayweather here? the fight is between Manny and Spence and the lawsuit was coming from Paradigm Sports,

https://sports.inquirer.net/427126/pacquiao-faces-breach-of-contract-lawsuit-from-paradigm-sports

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Manny Pacquiao will have one more fight before he takes on Errol Spence Jr. in August.

As per The Athletic, combat sports manager Audie Attar has filed a lawsuit against Manny Pacquiao claiming the eight-division world champion breached contract when he agreed to fight Spence for WBC and IBF welterweight titles.

Manny should have a fight before this fight, and that is the fight against Garcia but it did not happen, that's the reason why the case happen.

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They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.

Three million dollars to stand aside is a huge sum and it depends upon whether Manny Pacquiao and his management will be willing to give that kind of money. The problem is that how much money the management is planning to make with Manny Pacquiao and Errol Spence and what is the pay share each fighters are getting, if we know those guaranteed purses we will know whether they will settle it and continue with this fight.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 26, 2021, 09:37:29 PM

It is looking uncertain whether this fight will happen. Pacquiao is being sued by his manager Audie Attar for breach of contract. Attar's company Paradigm Sports was negotiating a Pacquiao vs. Mikey Garcia fight when Pacquiao instead decided to sign a contract for the Spence fight.

https://theathletic.com/news/manny-pacquiao-faces-lawsuit-saying-he-veered-from-mikey-garcia-for-errol-spence/42bUGIF0hGnL

I've just seen this news lately and I'm surprised what just happened. I thought that Pacquiao - Spence is already going to happen without any problems.

But an interesting surprise came out. Let's see how things will go for Pacquiao.

I guess Manny had already signed a contract on the Garica fight, that's why there's a breach of contract. I have not read the content of the news yet, but it's pretty obvious that they are just looking for money that's why they sue Manny. Why can't they just wait after this fight, regardless of the result, I'm sure Manny could still fight Garcia if that's how the contract will be fulfilled.

Well.

They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.

We cannot listen to one side only, there's a court that determines the case, it's not us.

In fact, Manny's camp downplayed this lawsuit, so most probably they know something that will not harm them and they continue what they are doing.

The timing is so obvious, they are just trying to disrupt a big fight and make money from it, that's it, but it's a long process, it's not decided right away, so like I said, let's wait for the court decision and let's stop speculating.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on June 26, 2021, 09:37:29 PM

It is looking uncertain whether this fight will happen. Pacquiao is being sued by his manager Audie Attar for breach of contract. Attar's company Paradigm Sports was negotiating a Pacquiao vs. Mikey Garcia fight when Pacquiao instead decided to sign a contract for the Spence fight.

https://theathletic.com/news/manny-pacquiao-faces-lawsuit-saying-he-veered-from-mikey-garcia-for-errol-spence/42bUGIF0hGnL

I've just seen this news lately and I'm surprised what just happened. I thought that Pacquiao - Spence is already going to happen without any problems.

But an interesting surprise came out. Let's see how things will go for Pacquiao.

I guess Manny had already signed a contract on the Garica fight, that's why there's a breach of contract. I have not read the content of the news yet, but it's pretty obvious that they are just looking for money that's why they sue Manny. Why can't they just wait after this fight, regardless of the result, I'm sure Manny could still fight Garcia if that's how the contract will be fulfilled.

Well.

They cannot wait on it as there's already a contract. Manny should honor the contract but if not, he has to pay what they are demanding for.

That's a big amount of money that he has to pay.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 28, 2021, 02:21:36 PM

Quote from: mirakal on June 28, 2021, 08:52:33 AM

That's right, Manny will face the lawsuit after, and who knows it will be settled after. It should not be a problem as even if that $3 million will be demanded, Manny would be able to pay that amount, so in his coming fight, his focus is still 100%.

Manny Pacquiao can definitely pay that lawsuit he is facing right now and after that event of Pacquiao VS Spence, he can surely accumulate millions of dollar to pay what is the charge on him, But Audie Attar of Paradigm sports is blocking the fight to be withheld, I don't know if that can be applied because right now as you have said Manny Pacquiao is 100% focus on the Spence fight, Right now on stake.com the odds is 1.38 For Spence and 2.95 for Manny Pacquiao at the moment.

If you look at the odds, Manny Pacquiao is so undervalued, it's what we called an opportunity for bettors to take that good value as an underdog bet, don't mind what people say or media says, they are just trying to mislead us, the real winner here is surely Pacquiao and that odds is just an advance Christmas gift. There's no way the fight will be blocked, that's why theres' an amount involved because Manny will have to pay that amount if he lose in the lawsuit filed against him.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 28, 2021, 08:52:33 AM

That's right, Manny will face the lawsuit after, and who knows it will be settled after. It should not be a problem as even if that $3 million will be demanded, Manny would be able to pay that amount, so in his coming fight, his focus is still 100%.

Manny Pacquiao can definitely pay that lawsuit he is facing right now and after that event of Pacquiao VS Spence, he can surely accumulate millions of dollar to pay what is the charge on him, But Audie Attar of Paradigm sports is blocking the fight to be withheld, I don't know if that can be applied because right now as you have said Manny Pacquiao is 100% focus on the Spence fight, Right now on stake.com the odds is 1.38 For Spence and 2.95 for Manny Pacquiao at the moment.

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Quote from: mirakal on June 28, 2021, 08:52:33 AM

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That's right, Manny will face the lawsuit after, and who knows it will be settled after. It should not be a problem as even if that $3 million will be demanded, Manny would be able to pay that amount, so in his coming fight, his focus is still 100%.

Another lawsuit and we might see another fight that is planned in doubt, what is with these lawsuit that everyone is jumping into, they fight did not take place and the delay may be due to the pandemic situation and now some of them are going to court so that they want to honor that agreement and $3 million is a huge amount and i do not think Manny will be paying such a huge amount to carry on with this fight.

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Quote from: peter0425 on June 28, 2021, 07:46:49 AM

Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 27, 2021, 04:16:39 PM

Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2021, 03:52:20 PM

Pacman are not worried about the lawsuit, let's not make this a big hindrance because no matter what, the fight will happen and we will witness a god fight between Manny and Spence.

We cannot underestimate these lawsuit because i thought nothing would happen when Deontay Wilder filed one against a contract they had and with that Tyson Fury had to drop the proposed match up with Anthony Joshua and continue with the trilogy and if there is a contract you never know what the outcome would be.
I still hope there is nothing to worry and the fight will carry on as expected.

Then let it be mate, i believe that this issue is only giving more popularity for the fight imagine that this issue claims big advertising and make impact for the upcoming fight.

and one thing for sure , this fight will come to happen and the lawsuit will be face after.

That's right, Manny will face the lawsuit after, and who knows it will be settled after. It should not be a problem as even if that $3 million will be demanded, Manny would be able to pay that amount, so in his coming fight, his focus is still 100%.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 27, 2021, 04:16:39 PM

Quote from: Japinat on June 27, 2021, 03:52:20 PM

Pacman are not worried about the lawsuit, let's not make this a big hindrance because no matter what, the fight will happen and we will witness a god fight between Manny and Spence.

We cannot underestimate these lawsuit because i thought nothing would happen when Deontay Wilder filed one against a contract they had and with that Tyson Fury had to drop the proposed match up with Anthony Joshua and continue with the trilogy and if there is a contract you never know what the outcome would be.
I still hope there is nothing to worry and the fight will carry on as expected.

Then let it be mate, i believe that this issue is only giving more popularity for the fight imagine that this issue claims big advertising and make impact for the upcoming fight.

and one thing for sure , this fight will come to happen and the lawsuit will be face after.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 27, 2021, 10:50:35 PM

Quote from: TimeTeller on June 28, 2021, 07:04:28 AM

The court has the power to stop this match especially if the lawsuit is supported with documents, Manny should settle this and the possible payment for the damages can be made if Manny still want push this match through. There's a problem like this before with other boxers and they can't do anything about it but to settle it, just like what Tyson experienced before so many lawsuit and that drains all his money.

Too bad they are expecting a Spence - Pacquiao because this is more interesting than the Pacquiao - Garcia match, both fights are good match ups, because both Spence and Garcia are champions, between Spence and Garcia, Garcia will be an easy fight, on Errol Spence it will generate a lot of interested and ticket sales is expected to be a sold out.
I have this feeling that the Garcia fight is the one that will push through because $3 million is such huge money, let's see where this leads us only Manny's team can decide who he wants to fight.

For me the Garcia fight should happen, I mean this is a winnable fight for Manny, of course money could have been little as compare to a Spence fight, but the risk is small for Pacquiao.

$3 million is big at this time, we don't know where Manny or his camp are going to get it, unless PBC is willing to shoulder it right now and then just deduct it from his purse in the Spence fight. So let's see what other options are open for Manny now.

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Quote from: robelneo on June 27, 2021, 10:50:35 PM

Quote from: robelneo on June 27, 2021, 10:50:35 PM

The court has the power to stop this match especially if the lawsuit is supported with documents, Manny should settle this and the possible payment for the damages can be made if Manny still want push this match through. There's a problem like this before with other boxers and they can't do anything about it but to settle it, just like what Tyson experienced before so many lawsuit and that drains all his money.

Too bad they are expecting a Spence - Pacquiao because this is more interesting than the Pacquiao - Garcia match, both fights are good match ups, because both Spence and Garcia are champions, between Spence and Garcia, Garcia will be an easy fight, on Errol Spence it will generate a lot of interested and ticket sales is expected to be a sold out.
I have this feeling that the Garcia fight is the one that will push through because $3 million is such huge money, let's see where this leads us only Manny's team can decide who he wants to fight.

If they feel they can generate good amount of money from Pacquiao-Spence fight, I guess they will push thru this match.
Because they can just pay the million-dollar lawsuit. But if not, just do the Pac-Garcia, and then, Spence. Grin

Manny is indeed still a bankable boxer, considering of his age. Young blood wants to be a part of his boxing career.
By the way, some sportsbooks like sportsbet & bitsler has still the odds for this match.

They already have, I can get 3/1 odds for Manny and that's a good early odds since I would still bet on him even if I will do it later. This is very surprising that Manny will be the underdog this match, I mean, he beat Thurman, so at least make him a slight underdog, not a heavy underdog. But anyway, we can't control the minds of the people, they believe what they think will happen in the match, and we never know who will win, so let's bet on the fighter we think will win.

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The court has the power to stop this match especially if the lawsuit is supported with documents, Manny should settle this and the possible payment for the damages can be made if Manny still want push this match through. There's a problem like this before with other boxers and they can't do anything about it but to settle it, just like what Tyson experienced before so many lawsuit and that drains all his money.

Too bad they are expecting a Spence - Pacquiao because this is more interesting than the Pacquiao - Garcia match, both fights are good match ups, because both Spence and Garcia are champions, between Spence and Garcia, Garcia will be an easy fight, on Errol Spence it will generate a lot of interested and ticket sales is expected to be a sold out.
I have this feeling that the Garcia fight is the one that will push through because $3 million is such huge money, let's see where this leads us only Manny's team can decide who he wants to fight.

If they feel they can generate good amount of money from Pacquiao-Spence fight, I guess they will push thru this match.
Because they can just pay the million-dollar lawsuit. But if not, just do the Pac-Garcia, and then, Spence. Grin

Manny is indeed still a bankable boxer, considering of his age. Young blood wants to be a part of his boxing career.
By the way, some sportsbooks like sportsbet & bitsler has still the odds for this match.

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The court has the power to stop this match especially if the lawsuit is supported with documents, Manny should settle this and the possible payment for the damages can be made if Manny still want push this match through. There's a problem like this before with other boxers and they can't do anything about it but to settle it, just like what Tyson experienced before so many lawsuit and that drains all his money.

If they want to stop this match I think Manny would stop his boxing career and finally retired because he is already old you know. I even doubt that he can beat Spence as he beat those last two boxers he fought years ago. I would really want to see this fight happen but this time I will stay neutral as I don't want to cheer on any one of them I only want to see how the currently high-speed boxers will clash inside the ring together.

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Quote from: livingfree on June 27, 2021, 05:44:50 PM

The court has the power to stop this match especially if the lawsuit is supported with documents, Manny should settle this and the possible payment for the damages can be made if Manny still want push this match through. There's a problem like this before with other boxers and they can't do anything about it but to settle it, just like what Tyson experienced before so many lawsuit and that drains all his money.

Too bad they are expecting a Spence - Pacquiao because this is more interesting than the Pacquiao - Garcia match, both fights are good match ups, because both Spence and Garcia are champions, between Spence and Garcia, Garcia will be an easy fight, on Errol Spence it will generate a lot of interested and ticket sales is expected to be a sold out.
I have this feeling that the Garcia fight is the one that will push through because $3 million is such huge money, let's see where this leads us only Manny's team can decide who he wants to fight.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 27, 2021, 04:16:39 PM

We cannot underestimate these lawsuit because i thought nothing would happen when Deontay Wilder filed one against a contract they had and with that Tyson Fury had to drop the proposed match up with Anthony Joshua and continue with the trilogy and if there is a contract you never know what the outcome would be.
I still hope there is nothing to worry and the fight will carry on as expected.

True.

Since it has already been publicly exposed. I think Manny's team wants to keep it in private until Paradigm has to give that signal that people must know that there's a violation that Manny did with them.

I also hope that this soon shall pass and will be settled.

The contract is clear and the team of Manny should know that to avoid this kind of problem, now the lawsuit wants this fight to stop and it's in the court already so I believe the fight can only push through if Manny teams will pay much and settle this before the court to give respect on his contract with the other management. As much as we want to see Manny on the boxing ring again, he cannot just ignore this one.

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Quote from: SaShiRaJaVu on June 27, 2021, 04:16:39 PM

We cannot underestimate these lawsuit because i thought nothing would happen when Deontay Wilder filed one against a contract they had and with that Tyson Fury had to drop the proposed match up with Anthony Joshua and continue with the trilogy and if there is a contract you never know what the outcome would be.
I still hope there is nothing to worry and the fight will carry on as expected.

True.

Since it has already been publicly exposed. I think Manny's team wants to keep it in private until Paradigm has to give that signal that people must know that there's a violation that Manny did with them.

I also hope that this soon shall pass and will be settled.

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