[Boxing]: Manny Pacquiao vs Errol Spence Jr - August 21 - page 32.

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Could be, and hopefully we fans are going to see this great fight. Maybe they can do out of court settlement, I'm sure Sean Gibbons and Manny has hired an attorney already to face the lawsuit and do everything to resolved it.

Manny Pacquiao is a Senator in the Philippines, he surely is familiar with the law as his job requires him to be. Don't worry about this mess, it's just a small problem and Manny will be able to settle this problem without ruining his reputation. Also, he has a lot of lawyers that will take care of this problem.

Manny's focus now is training, that's it.

He is very focused in every fight, actually, we are the ones who are speculating so much about the lawsuit. Pacquiao is in the business for decades, he surely had face this kind of problem before and handled it successfully. Both fighters have to take care of their body, avoid getting injured or getting infected with the virus, so on the scheduled date, we will see this fight and fans would see a very entertaining fight.

It seems like a money grab to me. Manny Pacquiao seems well past his prime and I question how much time he's been able to put aside for training. I don't see him letting his legacy get destroyed, so maybe this is a easy fight just to use his name to get some money. I've heard he has a history of drug addiction problems, but that could be nonsense. You'd think a senator wouldn't be resorting to fighting people for money to buy drugs. We can hope there is more to this than what it appears on the surface. Either way, I won't be watching.

About him being involved in drugs, those are just rumors without a basis, he is a hero in the Philippines so people are looking up to him. This could give easy money to him, but he deserved that given his legendary status, and might be old or has past his prime but he has proven he can still fight and we all saw that on his previous fight against Thurman.

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Quote from: Natalim on July 02, 2021, 04:06:00 PM

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 01, 2021, 09:17:24 PM

Could be, and hopefully we fans are going to see this great fight. Maybe they can do out of court settlement, I'm sure Sean Gibbons and Manny has hired an attorney already to face the lawsuit and do everything to resolved it.

Manny Pacquiao is a Senator in the Philippines, he surely is familiar with the law as his job requires him to be. Don't worry about this mess, it's just a small problem and Manny will be able to settle this problem without ruining his reputation. Also, he has a lot of lawyers that will take care of this problem.

Manny's focus now is training, that's it.

He is very focused in every fight, actually, we are the ones who are speculating so much about the lawsuit. Pacquiao is in the business for decades, he surely had face this kind of problem before and handled it successfully. Both fighters have to take care of their body, avoid getting injured or getting infected with the virus, so on the scheduled date, we will see this fight and fans would see a very entertaining fight.

It seems like a money grab to me. Manny Pacquiao seems well past his prime and I question how much time he's been able to put aside for training. I don't see him letting his legacy get destroyed, so maybe this is a easy fight just to use his name to get some money. I've heard he has a history of drug addiction problems, but that could be nonsense. You'd think a senator wouldn't be resorting to fighting people for money to buy drugs. We can hope there is more to this than what it appears on the surface. Either way, I won't be watching.

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Quote from: Kasabus on July 02, 2021, 09:28:31 AM

Quote from: Kemarit on July 01, 2021, 09:17:24 PM

Could be, and hopefully we fans are going to see this great fight. Maybe they can do out of court settlement, I'm sure Sean Gibbons and Manny has hired an attorney already to face the lawsuit and do everything to resolved it.

Manny Pacquiao is a Senator in the Philippines, he surely is familiar with the law as his job requires him to be. Don't worry about this mess, it's just a small problem and Manny will be able to settle this problem without ruining his reputation. Also, he has a lot of lawyers that will take care of this problem.

Manny's focus now is training, that's it.

He is very focused in every fight, actually, we are the ones who are speculating so much about the lawsuit. Pacquiao is in the business for decades, he surely had face this kind of problem before and handled it successfully. Both fighters have to take care of their body, avoid getting injured or getting infected with the virus, so on the scheduled date, we will see this fight and fans would see a very entertaining fight.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 01, 2021, 09:17:24 PM

Could be, and hopefully we fans are going to see this great fight. Maybe they can do out of court settlement, I'm sure Sean Gibbons and Manny has hired an attorney already to face the lawsuit and do everything to resolved it.

Manny Pacquiao is a Senator in the Philippines, he surely is familiar with the law as his job requires him to be. Don't worry about this mess, it's just a small problem and Manny will be able to settle this problem without ruining his reputation. Also, he has a lot of lawyers that will take care of this problem.

Manny's focus now is training, that's it.

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Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2021, 08:12:35 PM

I read that Manny is going to continue with his training in this fight. So barring all circumstances, this fight can still happen and that the distraction lawsuit could be settled out of court.

He really need to be active and prepared in case the fight happens this August. Manny though is an active body, he plays basketball even if he is not fighting.

Quote from: TravelMug on July 01, 2021, 08:12:35 PM

So it's not yet over, we still have our chances to see Pacquiao vs Spence this age, just crossed our fingers. I personally don't like Garcia vs Pacquiao, the thrill and excitement is in this fight.

Could be, and hopefully we fans are going to see this great fight. Maybe they can do out of court settlement, I'm sure Sean Gibbons and Manny has hired an attorney already to face the lawsuit and do everything to resolved it.

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I read that Manny is going to continue with his training in this fight. So barring all circumstances, this fight can still happen and that the distraction lawsuit could be settled out of court.

So it's not yet over, we still have our chances to see Pacquiao vs Spence this age, just crossed our fingers. I personally don't like Garcia vs Pacquiao, the thrill and excitement is in this fight.

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Quote from: stadus on July 01, 2021, 05:23:20 PM

They say boxing is the most corrupt sport, and they could be right, but who cares, if we accept that, we will still enjoy boxing. Manny is not always favored by judges, that's why most of his wins are in KO because he has to make sure that it will not bring to the judges to scorecard so he can get a fair decision.

Some of the judges in the UFC as well as in boxing gives out shitty judgement and when we see their scorecard we really think that whether we were watching the same fight and it happens and then i always questions their knowledge of the sport and what they are seeing in a fight to score the points. The thing i always see is that if the fight is taking place in the US and if the opponent is from other country then it is difficult to win a decision and there are countless matches i can point.

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Quote from: dunfida on July 01, 2021, 03:55:15 PM

About corruption or something related to that then its not something you would get surprised because on any industry then corruption would always be present and theres no surprising thing on it.

They say boxing is the most corrupt sport, and they could be right, but who cares, if we accept that, we will still enjoy boxing. Manny is not always favored by judges, that's why most of his wins are in KO because he has to make sure that it will not bring to the judges to scorecard so he can get a fair decision.

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Quote from: goinmerry on June 21, 2021, 07:36:10 PM

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

It is true that the pandemic was terrible for those athletes that are at the end of their careers as it stole almost two years from them, however Manny is simply out of this world so I would not be surprised if he still looks the same even if he has not fought in a long time.

Now we know that in the world of boxing there is also a lot of corruption, so I would not be surprised that if promoters think Spence is the new star of the sport they may give him some help so he beats many on the score cards and he can put on his resume that he was able to beat an old Manny Pacquiao.

Athletes never gets younger and its just normal to think off about the probabilities on being defeated but actually Manny hasnt something to prove out more since he's already been known to be a Legend on this sport.
He wouldnt lose nothing in case Spence would able to beat him up but it would really be looking good if he do retires after this if he do able to snatch some win against Spence.About corruption or something related to that then its not something you would get surprised because on any industry then corruption would always be present and theres no surprising thing on it.

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Quote from: ene1980 on June 22, 2021, 05:24:34 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on June 21, 2021, 07:36:10 PM

I agree that when making an analysis, the age of Manny Pacquiao should not be taken as one of the disadvantages. Can apply to other veteran boxers but not for Pacquiao.

We did not see Manny Pacquiao fight for the past two years and he is not getting younger and these delay is due to the pandemic and not because he was injured or retired but the problem is that with age your reflexes goes down and that is a fact. We can very well understand this once the fight starts and in the first three rounds we will know whether we are seeing the old Manny Pacquiao.

It is true that the pandemic was terrible for those athletes that are at the end of their careers as it stole almost two years from them, however Manny is simply out of this world so I would not be surprised if he still looks the same even if he has not fought in a long time.

Now we know that in the world of boxing there is also a lot of corruption, so I would not be surprised that if promoters think Spence is the new star of the sport they may give him some help so he beats many on the score cards and he can put on his resume that he was able to beat an old Manny Pacquiao.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 30, 2021, 05:45:29 PM

It was reported before that Manny is asking too much against Crawford, but if he wins here, Bob Arum might go for that big asking because he knows Manny would attract big fights and fans are already allowed to watch in the arena.

It makes sense that Manny Pacquiao is asking a big amount of winnings against Crawford because even with the reputation of this boxer, the distance between him and Manny is also too much. Crawford would have a big paycheck just for accepting the fight. Manny is the one who will attract the most viewers and even sold out all tickets and PPVs.

It's also the same with the fight with Errol Spence as Manny will take the most percentage of revenues which it should be. Manny is close to retirement and he's just picking a worthy fight alongside big paychecks.

That’s why his previous agency sues him, because they’ve loss the opportunity to make that much money and now this fight is at risk if Manny can’t settle this. Manny has a good reputation and that’s why he’s asking for that huge money and he deserve it because of so many titles that he had. Whoever fights Manny, is already a big pleasure plus the money that they can get so it can still be a win win situation for both boxer.

Right, and they are asking for the advance payment only, I'm not sure if Manny has received that money or not though. Maybe he is and he can just return it back and then fight Crawford. Win or lose if they are still interested on Manny vs Garcia then that's another options as well. So yes, still a win win situation for anyone involved. It's just the question of money, we all know that in boxing, there's a lot of money involved and promoters is taking a risk, that's why when they heard that Manny vs Crawford is going to happen, they have to file a lawsuit and just try to recoup the money they have lost.

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It was reported before that Manny is asking too much against Crawford, but if he wins here, Bob Arum might go for that big asking because he knows Manny would attract big fights and fans are already allowed to watch in the arena.

It makes sense that Manny Pacquiao is asking a big amount of winnings against Crawford because even with the reputation of this boxer, the distance between him and Manny is also too much. Crawford would have a big paycheck just for accepting the fight. Manny is the one who will attract the most viewers and even sold out all tickets and PPVs.

It's also the same with the fight with Errol Spence as Manny will take the most percentage of revenues which it should be. Manny is close to retirement and he's just picking a worthy fight alongside big paychecks.

That’s why his previous agency sues him, because they’ve loss the opportunity to make that much money and now this fight is at risk if Manny can’t settle this. Manny has a good reputation and that’s why he’s asking for that huge money and he deserve it because of so many titles that he had. Whoever fights Manny, is already a big pleasure plus the money that they can get so it can still be a win win situation for both boxer.

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Quote from: Kelvinid on June 30, 2021, 05:45:29 PM

It was reported before that Manny is asking too much against Crawford, but if he wins here, Bob Arum might go for that big asking because he knows Manny would attract big fights and fans are already allowed to watch in the arena.

It makes sense that Manny Pacquiao is asking a big amount of winnings against Crawford because even with the reputation of this boxer, the distance between him and Manny is also too much. Crawford would have a big paycheck just for accepting the fight. Manny is the one who will attract the most viewers and even sold out all tickets and PPVs.

It's also the same with the fight with Errol Spence as Manny will take the most percentage of revenues which it should be. Manny is close to retirement and he's just picking a worthy fight alongside big paychecks.

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If this match is pursued and done, I think they can now pursue the Garcia match. Cheesy

I wonder if Garcia would still want Manny if Manny will destroy Spence. And if Manny loses in the Spence fight, the interest will also drop in his fight against Garcia, so I think what Garcia's camp is protecting here is the current value, or maybe they are just making news but their case is not really that strong.

As long as the money is right, there can always be negotiation towards with each other. Boxing isn't just all about pride and glory.

It's an actual business that money talks and since if they've settled the issue and they're clear to fight, why not I think? But yeah, it's still going to depend with the offer or if they let their pride eat them then it's just a wish match up.

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If you look at the odds, Manny Pacquiao is so undervalued, it's what we called an opportunity for bettors to take that good value as an underdog bet, don't mind what people say or media says, they are just trying to mislead us, the real winner here is surely Pacquiao and that odds is just an advance Christmas gift. There's no way the fight will be blocked, that's why theres' an amount involved because Manny will have to pay that amount if he lose in the lawsuit filed against him.

No! I am surely looking forward to Pacquiao winning this, definitely, that underdog status of Manny Pacquiao in this fight will surely give us a lot of sum when he wins, it is surely an opportunity, I believe Pacman definitely going to win over Spence, there is no doubt the speed and power of Pacman never faded, and that lawsuit that McGregor's manager been filed to Pacquiao is just to get attention, in my opinion, they really want a Pacquiao VS Garcia fight, but because of that issue, I think there will never be a fight.

the boxing fans seem to like more the Pacquiao-Spence over Pacquiao-Garcia here. so more then likely, Pacquiao's camp will just settle the lawsuit. if Pacquiao wins over Spence, i don't think people will clamour for Pacquiao-Garcia anymore. the odds are really in favour of Spence, so it is very nice to bet on Pacquiao here as the underdog. hope the promoters will not cancel this fight.

If Pacquiao wins, he will go for a Pacquiao vs Crawford fight, but he will be the one who will dictate the terms and will not allow his old promoter Bob Arum to do it. It was reported before that Manny is asking too much against Crawford, but if he wins here, Bob Arum might go for that big asking because he knows Manny would attract big fights and fans are already allowed to watch in the arena.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 30, 2021, 11:48:24 AM

Quote from: stadus on June 28, 2021, 04:30:02 PM

If you look at the odds, Manny Pacquiao is so undervalued, it's what we called an opportunity for bettors to take that good value as an underdog bet, don't mind what people say or media says, they are just trying to mislead us, the real winner here is surely Pacquiao and that odds is just an advance Christmas gift. There's no way the fight will be blocked, that's why theres' an amount involved because Manny will have to pay that amount if he lose in the lawsuit filed against him.

No! I am surely looking forward to Pacquiao winning this, definitely, that underdog status of Manny Pacquiao in this fight will surely give us a lot of sum when he wins, it is surely an opportunity, I believe Pacman definitely going to win over Spence, there is no doubt the speed and power of Pacman never faded, and that lawsuit that McGregor's manager been filed to Pacquiao is just to get attention, in my opinion, they really want a Pacquiao VS Garcia fight, but because of that issue, I think there will never be a fight.

the boxing fans seem to like more the Pacquiao-Spence over Pacquiao-Garcia here. so more then likely, Pacquiao's camp will just settle the lawsuit. if Pacquiao wins over Spence, i don't think people will clamour for Pacquiao-Garcia anymore. the odds are really in favour of Spence, so it is very nice to bet on Pacquiao here as the underdog. hope the promoters will not cancel this fight.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 30, 2021, 11:48:24 AM

Quote from: stadus on June 28, 2021, 04:30:02 PM

If you look at the odds, Manny Pacquiao is so undervalued, it's what we called an opportunity for bettors to take that good value as an underdog bet, don't mind what people say or media says, they are just trying to mislead us, the real winner here is surely Pacquiao and that odds is just an advance Christmas gift. There's no way the fight will be blocked, that's why theres' an amount involved because Manny will have to pay that amount if he lose in the lawsuit filed against him.

No! I am surely looking forward to Pacquiao winning this, definitely, that underdog status of Manny Pacquiao in this fight will surely give us a lot of sum when he wins, it is surely an opportunity, I believe Pacman definitely going to win over Spence, there is no doubt the speed and power of Pacman never faded, and that lawsuit that McGregor's manager been filed to Pacquiao is just to get attention, in my opinion, they really want a Pacquiao VS Garcia fight, but because of that issue, I think there will never be a fight.

If they will fight, it would be better but if Pacquiao wins, the Pacquiao vs Garcia fight would not be interesting anymore as Garcia loses to Spence in their fight. I thought that Manny is once again underestimated, his achievement was overlooked because of his age despite no evidence that tells he is slowing down already.

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Quote from: stadus on June 28, 2021, 04:30:02 PM

If you look at the odds, Manny Pacquiao is so undervalued, it's what we called an opportunity for bettors to take that good value as an underdog bet, don't mind what people say or media says, they are just trying to mislead us, the real winner here is surely Pacquiao and that odds is just an advance Christmas gift. There's no way the fight will be blocked, that's why theres' an amount involved because Manny will have to pay that amount if he lose in the lawsuit filed against him.

No! I am surely looking forward to Pacquiao winning this, definitely, that underdog status of Manny Pacquiao in this fight will surely give us a lot of sum when he wins, it is surely an opportunity, I believe Pacman definitely going to win over Spence, there is no doubt the speed and power of Pacman never faded, and that lawsuit that McGregor's manager been filed to Pacquiao is just to get attention, in my opinion, they really want a Pacquiao VS Garcia fight, but because of that issue, I think there will never be a fight.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 30, 2021, 09:39:12 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on June 29, 2021, 11:12:19 PM

Sean Gibbons, Manny Pacquiao's handler said that the fight will continue as plan. He even told in an interview that Pacquiao will be in the US by July to train with fame Freddy Roach for the Spence fight.

But we all know boxing politics, every one has a price, so if they indeed settle this lawsuit out of the court then the fight can proceed by August. Pacquiao wanted to pursue this fight, so we can't really say that it's time for him to hang up his gloves and retire for good and let the young bloods take over the boxing scene. If Floyd can still relevant with exhibition matches, then Manny can do it with real fights.

That lawsuit will not actually stop the fight, it has nothing to do with the fight so the fight will continue while Manny still has to face the lawsuit, however, it's not necessary that he will face it now, he will have to focus on his fight then he will face the lawsuit.

It will not stop as the lawsuit highlighted only that Manny will have to pay $3 million for a breach of contract, Manny's camp would be able to pay that amount and that problem is over. he should not get affected and I am sure he is not since their camp downplayed this lawsuit.

I don't know why people still talking about the lawsuit, when Manny's camp is not too concern about it.

Quote from: Natalim on June 30, 2021, 09:39:12 AM

Regardless of the result of the Spence vs Manny fight, he will still make money and there's no doubt he can pay the damages demanded by the suing party.

The PPV revenue itself is expected to be a huge one, both fighters will enjoy it as they made the right marketing and this fight will be the biggest this year.

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Quote from: Dave1 on June 29, 2021, 11:12:19 PM

Sean Gibbons, Manny Pacquiao's handler said that the fight will continue as plan. He even told in an interview that Pacquiao will be in the US by July to train with fame Freddy Roach for the Spence fight.

But we all know boxing politics, every one has a price, so if they indeed settle this lawsuit out of the court then the fight can proceed by August. Pacquiao wanted to pursue this fight, so we can't really say that it's time for him to hang up his gloves and retire for good and let the young bloods take over the boxing scene. If Floyd can still relevant with exhibition matches, then Manny can do it with real fights.

That lawsuit will not actually stop the fight, it has nothing to do with the fight so the fight will continue while Manny still has to face the lawsuit, however, it's not necessary that he will face it now, he will have to focus on his fight then he will face the lawsuit.

Regardless of the result of the Spence vs Manny fight, he will still make money and there's no doubt he can pay the damages demanded by the suing party.

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