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Quote from: coin-investor on April 04, 2021, 07:48:15 AM

Fury has a big edge in the voting over 95% have voted that he will win the 1st and second bout, it will be profitable if they have one piece and they settle it on the third fight, but knowing Joshua he is a very flexible guy, he shows it in the Ruiz rematch, where he totally dominated Ruiz using a different style.

Fury definitely has a big edge in the votes but 77% have voted for Fury to win the first and the second fight Wink

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Only if I see the actual domination on the ring by Fury and his victory "for a clear advantage" will agree that the bookmakers (and the majority of those who voted) were right

At the moment, I see no reason (and any factual material) to give an advantage to one of the boxers so much.
In my opinion, it will be a tough fight and if there is no unexpected knockout (it is not known in whose favor) in the first rounds, then Joshua will win on points. This is my assumption, after the first battle when new data appears, I will revise it.

Yes, and in any case, I am happy both for the audience who will see an excellent show and for the athletes who will make millions, regardless of the outcome of the fights

Thank you for your comments. You are right none of us knows what will happen if the two fight deal goes ahead, we cannot be sure about anything that will happen in the ring and we are all expressing our opinions. Too many of the people (including myself) think Fury will win both fights and there is nothing wrong with that just like there is nothing wrong the opinion that you and some others have the Joshua will win at least one fight.

I hope we get more feedback from more members

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Quote from: coin-investor on April 04, 2021, 07:48:15 AM

Fury has a big edge in the voting over 95% have voted that he will win the 1st and second bout, it will be profitable if they have one piece and they settle it on the third fight, but knowing Joshua he is a very flexible guy, he shows it in the Ruiz rematch, where he totally dominated Ruiz using a different style.

Probably he is already studying how to beat Fury, this is a different scenario as he is the underdog of the fight, if I'm not mistaken, when he was already a champion, I never see him fight being an underdog, so there's a lot to job to be done by him to prove that he is the real champion.

His fight wasn't as big as the fight of Fury, so it's normal that people will feel that Fury is a much superior fighter.

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Only if I see the actual domination on the ring by Fury and his victory "for a clear advantage" will agree that the bookmakers (and the majority of those who voted) were right

At the moment, I see no reason (and any factual material) to give an advantage to one of the boxers so much.
In my opinion, it will be a tough fight and if there is no unexpected knockout (it is not known in whose favor) in the first rounds, then Joshua will win on points. This is my assumption, after the first battle when new data appears, I will revise it.

Yes, and in any case, I am happy both for the audience who will see an excellent show and for the athletes who will make millions, regardless of the outcome of the fights

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Fury has a big edge in the voting over 95% have voted that he will win the 1st and second bout, it will be profitable if they have one piece and they settle it on the third fight, but knowing Joshua he is a very flexible guy, he shows it in the Ruiz rematch, where he totally dominated Ruiz using a different style.

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It is only profitable to bet on Joshua winning if he actually wins the fight but the odds are against him winning for a reason.

Quote from: Viscore on April 04, 2021, 07:24:37 AM

Well, Joshua had the better odds so it's always profitable to bet on him, whether he wins by KO or by decision, you will get a good payout because of the odds. This is the first fight, so just like the Fury vs Wilder first fight, they might be more focus on defense and a DRAW is possible. When first fight result to a draw, then there's a possibility of a trilogy, that if the loser will not act BS like Wilder.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 04, 2021, 02:06:38 AM

What are the odds on this fight? I wanted Tyson Fury at first, however, all the hype is behind him and the sportsbooks might make him the big favorite. Similar to the UFC, hyped fighters are bad bets hehehe.

Fury is the favorite to win this fight.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-for-anthony-joshua-vs-tyson-fury-after-two-fight-deal-signed-2021/

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Fighter   Odds
Tyson Fury   -190
Anthony Joshua   +140

If you are a Joshua fan, you'll find that betting odds attractive, +140 is a steal since both of them are champions and anything could happen.

I'm not a fan of Joshua but voted "draw + one win for Joshua" just thinking that (in my opinion) these athletes are approximately equal and the bias towards Fury is unreasonable, respectively, those who bet on Joshua will be in the black (not exactly in those two fights, but on a streak of similar 100, betting on Joshua would be profitable).

Well, Joshua had the better odds so it's always profitable to bet on him, whether he wins by KO or by decision, you will get a good payout because of the odds. This is the first fight, so just like the Fury vs Wilder first fight, they might be more focus on defense and a DRAW is possible. When first fight result to a draw, then there's a possibility of a trilogy, that if the loser will not act BS like Wilder.

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There is no bias towards Fury so there is nothing unreasonable about voting for him. Fury is simply just the better fighter therefore it is normal to back the fighter you believe will win.

Just as in football if there is a match between Manchester City (top of the EPL table) playing a team one or places below them. Many votes would be for a Manchester City victory and less for the other team because they are the top team. Just look at Chelsea vs West Bromwich Albion yesterday, nobody would have given West Brom a chance but they lost 2-5 so the underdog can win and in this case Joshua is the underdog.

As long as Joshua will be in the ring he will always have a chance to win no matter who the opponent is but most of the votes here clearly feel he will lose twice to Fury.

Anyway no matter who wins the fights both fighters will make millions beyond their wildest dreams but as usual it will be those gambling that will either be at a loss or will pocket their wins.

Quote from: KTChampions on April 04, 2021, 05:35:51 AM

I'm not a fan of Joshua but voted "draw + one win for Joshua" just thinking that (in my opinion) these athletes are approximately equal and the bias towards Fury is unreasonable, respectively, those who bet on Joshua will be in the black (not exactly in those two fights, but on a streak of similar 100, betting on Joshua would be profitable).

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Quote from: Japinat on April 04, 2021, 04:31:55 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 04, 2021, 02:06:38 AM

What are the odds on this fight? I wanted Tyson Fury at first, however, all the hype is behind him and the sportsbooks might make him the big favorite. Similar to the UFC, hyped fighters are bad bets hehehe.

Fury is the favorite to win this fight.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-for-anthony-joshua-vs-tyson-fury-after-two-fight-deal-signed-2021/

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Fighter   Odds
Tyson Fury   -190
Anthony Joshua   +140

If you are a Joshua fan, you'll find that betting odds attractive, +140 is a steal since both of them are champions and anything could happen.

I'm not a fan of Joshua but voted "draw + one win for Joshua" just thinking that (in my opinion) these athletes are approximately equal and the bias towards Fury is unreasonable, respectively, those who bet on Joshua will be in the black (not exactly in those two fights, but on a streak of similar 100, betting on Joshua would be profitable).

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Without doubt Fury is technically superior, I would say far above Wilder and even higher above Joshua. Nobody in the heavyweight division can come close to Fury because he has all the tools and techniques to grind out a win or go for a knockout.

I do not see any major problems for Fury if his two fight deal goes ahead against Joshua.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 03, 2021, 07:32:42 PM

If Joshua and Wilder were both unbeaten and faced each other a couple of years ago I would have thought Wilder would win by knockout. Now the momentum is with Joshua but he would still struggle to beat a fully fit and focused Wilder. As you can see the favourite in the poll is Fury that is because he is a much better boxer than Joshua.

Wilder created the aura that he could knock anyone out with a single punch and even i would bet him to win the fight but now both Joshua and Wilder has a loss attached to their career and after Fury and Joshua battle it out i would like to see Joshua and Wilder to know the second best in the Heavyweight division Grin

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Quote from: Saisher on April 03, 2021, 07:15:08 PM

even if Fury is a huge favorite here, Joshua can pull a huge upset, I want to believe that he has good boxing skill and power over Deontay Wilder, it's going to be a technical fight for both this guy, no one will be reckless to try to knock out the other.

Fury is a technically superior in my opinion from the fights he had and the experience and i am not expecting an upset unless the judges goes crazy and score for Joshua Grin

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on April 04, 2021, 02:06:38 AM

What are the odds on this fight? I wanted Tyson Fury at first, however, all the hype is behind him and the sportsbooks might make him the big favorite. Similar to the UFC, hyped fighters are bad bets hehehe.

Fury is the favorite to win this fight.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/boxing/opening-odds-for-anthony-joshua-vs-tyson-fury-after-two-fight-deal-signed-2021/

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Fighter   Odds
Tyson Fury   -190
Anthony Joshua   +140

If you are a Joshua fan, you'll find that betting odds attractive, +140 is a steal since both of them are champions and anything could happen.

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What are the odds on this fight? I wanted Tyson Fury at first, however, all the hype is behind him and the sportsbooks might make him the big favorite. Similar to the UFC, hyped fighters are bad bets hehehe.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 03, 2021, 07:32:42 PM

If Joshua and Wilder were both unbeaten and faced each other a couple of years ago I would have thought Wilder would win by knockout. Now the momentum is with Joshua but he would still struggle to beat a fully fit and focused Wilder. As you can see the favourite in the poll is Fury that is because he is a much better boxer than Joshua.

Wilder created the aura that he could knock anyone out with a single punch and even i would bet him to win the fight but now both Joshua and Wilder has a loss attached to their career and after Fury and Joshua battle it out i would like to see Joshua and Wilder to know the second best in the Heavyweight division Grin

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Well it is the fact that Wilder can knockout almost anybody on command with a single punch, if I am not wrong I think he has the highest percentage of knockouts in the entire history of the heavyweight division, which is a very revealing statistic as we have had incredible fighters in that division, the only problem for Wilder is that is all what he had, boxing fans have known that he is not really a great technical boxer and once he faced someone like Fury he had no chance to win at all.

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 03, 2021, 07:32:42 PM

If Joshua and Wilder were both unbeaten and faced each other a couple of years ago I would have thought Wilder would win by knockout. Now the momentum is with Joshua but he would still struggle to beat a fully fit and focused Wilder. As you can see the favourite in the poll is Fury that is because he is a much better boxer than Joshua.

Wilder created the aura that he could knock anyone out with a single punch and even i would bet him to win the fight but now both Joshua and Wilder has a loss attached to their career and after Fury and Joshua battle it out i would like to see Joshua and Wilder to know the second best in the Heavyweight division Grin

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Quote from: Saisher on April 03, 2021, 07:15:08 PM

even if Fury is a huge favorite here, Joshua can pull a huge upset, I want to believe that he has good boxing skill and power over Deontay Wilder, it's going to be a technical fight for both this guy, no one will be reckless to try to knock out the other.

Fury is a technically superior in my opinion from the fights he had and the experience and i am not expecting an upset unless the judges goes crazy and score for Joshua Grin

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If Joshua and Wilder were both unbeaten and faced each other a couple of years ago I would have thought Wilder would win by knockout. Now the momentum is with Joshua but he would still struggle to beat a fully fit and focused Wilder. As you can see the favourite in the poll is Fury that is because he is a much better boxer than Joshua.

Quote from: Saisher on April 03, 2021, 07:15:08 PM

The poll is very surprising, Joshua is a huge underdog here after his previous two impressive wins he still is an underdog, even if Fury is a huge favorite here, Joshua can pull a huge upset, I want to believe that he has good boxing skill and power over Deontay Wilder, it's going to be a technical fight for both this guy, no one will be reckless to try to knock out the other.

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1st & 2nd Fight: Fury   - 34 (79.1%)
1st & 2nd Fight: Joshua   - 3 (7%)
1st Fight: Fury -=- 2nd Fight: Joshua   - 1 (2.3%)
1st Fight: Joshua -=- 2nd Fight: Fury   - 3 (7%)
1 Draw + 1 Win for Fury   - 2 (4.7%)
1 Draw + 1 Win for Joshua   - 0 (0%)
2 Draws   - 0 (0%)

The poll is very surprising, Joshua is a huge underdog here after his previous two impressive wins he still is an underdog, even if Fury is a huge favorite here, Joshua can pull a huge upset, I want to believe that he has good boxing skill and power over Deontay Wilder, it's going to be a technical fight for both this guy, no one will be reckless to try to knock out the other.

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Quote from: hulla on April 03, 2021, 12:34:47 PM

If there are no certain restrictions that hinder the fight to take place in the UK I expected the first or the rematch to happen in the UK since the two fighters are both British.
But we are talking about the biggest fight event in the boxing scheme so it will be hard to choose a venue due to the pandemic cause the venue that will be chosen have to worth it.

Yeah there were no proofs but if theres a rumor then it can be possibly true or would happen.I have seen this stuff in YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gk9sMFes1Q

About link-up? Yeah, there might be some big talks but it wont really be changing a thing when he's already on the boxing ring.

I liked the venue, maybe they can make it in Dubai.

About Mayweather training him, I'm not impressed with that news, besides, Floyd is not really known as a trainer he is a fighter and to my knowledge, he has not trained anyone yet that has become a champion, maybe becauses he has a training gym, but is he really the one who is training the fight?

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Votes in the poll: 42

Fury to win both fights: 33

Joshua to win both fights: 3

Here is the poll after 42 votes and Fury is simply running away with the votes. The forum members have spoken and they still favour Fury to beat Joshua twice.

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Quote from: hulla on April 03, 2021, 12:34:47 PM

If there are no certain restrictions that hinder the fight to take place in the UK I expected the first or the rematch to happen in the UK since the two fighters are both British.
But we are talking about the biggest fight event in the boxing scheme so it will be hard to choose a venue due to the pandemic cause the venue that will be chosen have to worth it.

Yeah there were no proofs but if theres a rumor then it can be possibly true or would happen.I have seen this stuff in YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gk9sMFes1Q

About link-up? Yeah, there might be some big talks but it wont really be changing a thing when he's already on the boxing ring.

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Rumours of Mayweather training Joshua have been going on but there is no proof. No boxer in their right mind would ever allow a new trainer to join his already close team so close to a fight so I doubt it. Furthermore I mentioned in a post a few pages back that Mayweather and Fury also get along so he would not risk alienating one boxer over the other.

Quote from: hulla on April 03, 2021, 04:30:12 PM

I know he said he doesn't want the fight to happen in the UK but I'm just saying that maybe he changes his mind because Bob Arum and Hearn want the fight to take place in the UK. This means if Joshua wins the fight the rematch will likely happen in the UK.
Having, I think Asia or Arab will be the best venue for this fight.
I read Mayweather is somehow training Joshua how true is this rumor?

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Quote from: JollyGood on April 03, 2021, 01:12:00 PM

Fury stated numerous he does not want to fight in the UK. Joshua stated on many occasions he wants to fight at the Tottenham Hotspur stadium in London. I doubt any British promoter can stump up the money needed to get the fight to take place in the UK.

It is highly unlikely any individual will be able to put this fight together with funds in place so most likely this will only happen after a country decides to promote it.

I know he said he doesn't want the fight to happen in the UK but I'm just saying that maybe he changes his mind because Bob Arum and Hearn want the fight to take place in the UK. This means if Joshua wins the fight the rematch will likely happen in the UK.
Having, I think Asia or Arab will be the best venue for this fight.
I read Mayweather is somehow training Joshua how true is this rumor?

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