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Topic: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Rematch - JOSHUA vs USYK II (updated thread) - page 4. (Read 3469 times)

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Usyk really won a well-deserved victory, even by decision, if a fight with Fury takes place, it would be interesting to see what happens there, the Gypsy King in his style has already commented on the rematch of Usyk vs Joshua and called it one of the worst title fights in his opinion.

https://twitter.com/Tyson_Fury/status/1561138327964860420
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the fight is all slomo. he is losing his sting, it doesn't look like he trained for this fight. no game plan no combo that i think remarkable enough to make him win. it was a close fight though i just can't believe he couldn't avoid a coming punch. 
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Have you all seen Joshua's behavior after the fight he is a very upset man he even throws the two belts the WBA and ring magazine title outside of the ring and even confronted Usyk and tells him how do you beat me, its a big disappointment for those who adorn and look up to him instead of congratulating Usyk he despises him, Usyk for his part is very calm, Usyk deserves the match and Joshua has no right to disrespect Usyk, he should be sanction for his action.

Anthony Joshua confronts Oleksandr Usyk after defeat & throws belts out of the ring
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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring. The AJ I watched today stands no fighting chance against Fury and Wilder.

Yeah I agree there's so much hesitation on his part he is very tentative he just waited and waited for Usyk to come in and he is in a defensive mode, I thought he'll going to do another performance as he did with Ruiz, but it seems its a continuation on where both fighters left off, now the boxing community will take Usyk seriously and might pit him against Fury or Wilder.
Usyk could be the greatest heavyweight boxer of this generation after all, and I wonder what's next for Joshua.

Well looking at the scores, if Joshua will just have enough push in rounds 10-12, he could have been the winner. He just had a good round 9, but in round 10 and onwards, his legs is gone, seems to gassing out as there is no power from his punch.

Let's hear from Fury, maybe he will get out of retirement? Or maybe not since Joshua lost and there is no need for an all out war between 2 Brits in the Heavyweight. Congrats to Usyk I think he can clean up the division not name Fury. I think he can beat any version of Wilder with this technical boxing.

The revenge of Joshua's countryman hehehe. If the money is right, I reckon Fury would fight anyone in the boxing ring.

Also, agreed that Usyk can beat any version of Wilder, however, any version of Wilder can knockout Usyk. Usyk is also small for a heavyweight. His real weight division is in cruiserweight or light heavyweight.
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^^ Yes, I  think Fury might get out of his retirement and fight Usyk, for sure this will also be bigger in any parts of the world, US/UK/Middle East.

But yeah, we should hear from Fury first, he has still up to August 26 to make it official, whether he will retire for good or not, or go for another lucrative fight against Usyk for all the marbles and money.
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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring. The AJ I watched today stands no fighting chance against Fury and Wilder.

Yeah I agree there's so much hesitation on his part he is very tentative he just waited and waited for Usyk to come in and he is in a defensive mode, I thought he'll going to do another performance as he did with Ruiz, but it seems its a continuation on where both fighters left off, now the boxing community will take Usyk seriously and might pit him against Fury or Wilder.
Usyk could be the greatest heavyweight boxer of this generation after all, and I wonder what's next for Joshua.

Well looking at the scores, if Joshua will just have enough push in rounds 10-12, he could have been the winner. He just had a good round 9, but in round 10 and onwards, his legs is gone, seems to gassing out as there is no power from his punch.

Rounds 10 to 12 are considered championship rounds if you don't have it on these last two rounds and the fight is close you are in trouble Joshua let his dream slip on these rounds the fight is too close it could go either way between these championship rounds but Usyk is the one that deliver the needed points.

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Let's hear from Fury, maybe he will get out of retirement? Or maybe not since Joshua lost and there is no need for an all out war between 2 Brits in the Heavyweight. Congrats to Usyk I think he can clean up the division not name Fury. I think he can beat any version of Wilder with this technical boxing.

Fury considered himself the greatest boxer of this generation now Usyk is up to the challenge and because of this win his claim is now challenged I'm sure we will hear a lot from Fury and maybe get out of retirement and challenge him, and I'm sure too Wilder will also target him, the heavyweight division is a very excited division now.
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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring. The AJ I watched today stands no fighting chance against Fury and Wilder.

Yeah I agree there's so much hesitation on his part he is very tentative he just waited and waited for Usyk to come in and he is in a defensive mode, I thought he'll going to do another performance as he did with Ruiz, but it seems its a continuation on where both fighters left off, now the boxing community will take Usyk seriously and might pit him against Fury or Wilder.

It's because he will be vulnerable to Usyk's counter that's why he didn't engaged him early and chooses to be in the defensive mode which we obviously see as not that effective because he can't win rounds by that performance.

Usyk could be the greatest heavyweight boxer of this generation after all, and I wonder what's next for Joshua.

Still up for debate, if he beats Wilder and then win against Fury, then yeah, probably he will be considered the greatest of this generation. But so far the title is being held by the retired Tyson Fury.
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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring. The AJ I watched today stands no fighting chance against Fury and Wilder.

Yeah I agree there's so much hesitation on his part he is very tentative he just waited and waited for Usyk to come in and he is in a defensive mode, I thought he'll going to do another performance as he did with Ruiz, but it seems its a continuation on where both fighters left off, now the boxing community will take Usyk seriously and might pit him against Fury or Wilder.
Usyk could be the greatest heavyweight boxer of this generation after all, and I wonder what's next for Joshua.

Well looking at the scores, if Joshua will just have enough push in rounds 10-12, he could have been the winner. He just had a good round 9, but in round 10 and onwards, his legs is gone, seems to gassing out as there is no power from his punch.

Let's hear from Fury, maybe he will get out of retirement? Or maybe not since Joshua lost and there is no need for an all out war between 2 Brits in the Heavyweight. Congrats to Usyk I think he can clean up the division not name Fury. I think he can beat any version of Wilder with this technical boxing.
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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring. The AJ I watched today stands no fighting chance against Fury and Wilder.

Yeah I agree there's so much hesitation on his part he is very tentative he just waited and waited for Usyk to come in and he is in a defensive mode, I thought he'll going to do another performance as he did with Ruiz, but it seems its a continuation on where both fighters left off, now the boxing community will take Usyk seriously and might pit him against Fury or Wilder.
Usyk could be the greatest heavyweight boxer of this generation after all, and I wonder what's next for Joshua.
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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring.
Anthony Joshua fought better than he did in the first fight, showed better reaction especially in the early stages and had some really good rounds where he dominated like in Round 9, but this fight proves that sometimes having a powerful fist is not just enough, Skills just like what Usyk showed are also required to make a complete boxer. His movements made it difficult for him to be an easy target for a direct punch from AJ's powerful fist.

Usyk was able to improve his performance with every round, he looked to come back stronger and that was something impressive and shows the real mindset of a fighter, a champion someone who was there to prove a point and surely he has. AJ was satisfied with the outcome of the fight, Usyk really deserved it.

Now it's going to be Usyk vs Fury Cheesy, that's some fight!

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What is happening to AJ? Has he lost his drive, his motivation, his hunger? I mean, because I do not understand what's been going on with this champ. Has he made so much money that his heart in no longer in the sport? Totally appalled and embarrassed with his performance in the ring. The AJ I watched today stands no fighting chance against Fury and Wilder.
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BREAKING NEWS !!

Usyk defeats Joshua again











It was a points decision where two ringside judges awarded the win to Usyk:

USYK: Victor Fesechko (116-112)
USYK: Steve Gray (115-113)
JOSHUA: Glenn Feldman (115-113)
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Who watch the fight?

Unofficially (my scorecard) I have Usyk winning 116-112.

Let's see what will be the judges scorecard as this is a very close fight. I gave Usyk the championship rounds.

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Official result: Oleksandr Usyk def. Anthony Joshua via split decision (115-113, 115-113, 116-112)
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Anthony Joshua has been very strict with his training on this fight and there is so much focus from his team, but I still feel Anthony Joshua has lots that confidence he had back then when he was undefeated and confidence is very important in Boxing, Joshua has great potentials and has great punching power so does his opponent now it comes down to who wants it more I think Joshua may come out champion.
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I think Joshua is already mentally defeated after losing to Usyk last year but his actual defeat in 2022 will happen in a couple of hours time. Joshua will need a miracle to win but it can happen, it is not impossible however it is highly improbably.

I give Joshua zero chance of winning. He needs to go out from round one throwing right handers Wilder-style and hope he catches Usyk on the jaw knocking him out... other than that Joshua himself knows he cannot outwit or outbox Usyk therefore he should probably throw in the towel or be prepared to get knocked out.

Usyk outperformed Joshua in the first fight in terms of speed, it was obvious, and increasing the weight always leads to a loss of speed, which will be a negative moment for Joshau. Joshua is a hardy fighter and most likely we will see all 12 rounds again today with a Usyk victory by decision, but I would like Usyk to knock out Joshau and we will not return to this confrontation anymore. Heard a lot of promises that Joshua will surprise everyone, that he has a fight plan that will help him win, let's see what he can show us today.
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Anthony Joshua is weighing around 244 pounds much heavier than the first first and Oleksandr Usyk weighs at 221 pound around the weight he fought last time. I am not expecting any massive difference in this fight unless Usyk was not focusing on training after winning the belt just like Andy Ruiz Jr  Grin.

Usyk outperformed Joshua in the first fight in terms of speed, it was obvious, and increasing the weight always leads to a loss of speed, which will be a negative moment for Joshau. Joshua is a hardy fighter and most likely we will see all 12 rounds again today with a Usyk victory by decision, but I would like Usyk to knock out Joshau and we will not return to this confrontation anymore. Heard a lot of promises that Joshua will surprise everyone, that he has a fight plan that will help him win, let's see what he can show us today.
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Nah, no way. The opposite. The person who holds the belts holds most of the sway and can dictate most of the terms.
Under usual normal circumstances I would never have asked the question but as it stands with Fury calling literally all the shots even though he is not fighting tonight, the issue about his retirement is still there. He gave up the belts or had them taken away after he could not fight previously because of all those issues but he made a comeback. In the process I am not sure how things altered financially for him.

It makes pure sense to hold on to the belts after winning them and keep making defences in the process increasing the earnings with each fight.

Fury definitely shouldn't be retiring when there's people like Usyk still to beat and I think he has to take those fights to cement his legacy.

Usyk looks scary though
He looks like a man on a mission. Did you see the other video where Hearn was being interviewed but Usyk came and sat next to him. Hearn was absolutely scared but tried to put up a show as though he was not worried  Grin

You never know with Fury. I've been a fan forever, and I still don't know when he's being serious, and when he isn't. It annoys me to a certain extent, and while he's perfectly within his right, and will retire a legend. It just feels wrong to do so, when he could have two more fights against the these two men, and potentially cement his position as the best of his era, and no one would be able to argue it. Currently, we're always going to be like "what about AJ or Usyk". Even though, I'm quite confident he beats both of them, and almost certain he beats AJ, I still want to see it.

I just hope he's playing mind games, and comes back regardless who wins.
The fact people are still talking about his retirement and that possible unification fight against Usyk (or Joshua) means he is not out of the picture yet. He has not officially retired by writing to the boxing organisations that he is world heavyweight champion of. I think he has maybe another 6 days to formally renounce his belts and effectively retire or he will have to fight the number one contender which really should be the winner of the Joshua-Usyk rematch.

I think it is mind games and he should enter the ring a final time to probably unify the belts then retire but as you said with Fury, you just do not know when he is being serious and when he is playing up to an audience.

I guess we'll find out Fury's true intentions by the end of the month as he's going to have to vacate the belt.
Exactly. He will have to vacate the belts or basically put his name forward for a mandatory defence and that is the only time his intentions will be known.
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Wooooow... I never thought that Fury has retired, because I remember him talking that the only belt that is left for his collection, is the belt Usyk holds. I have been living with a feeling, that he will fight the winner of Usyk vs Joshua fight, but then a rematch clause spoiled his plans, spoiled a bit.
Tyson Fury has vacated the belt and announced his retirement but with the way he started training once again with a new coach makes me think that he will be coming back once again.

Btw, Usyk looks bigger than he was in their first fight.
 
Its either Usyk has gained, or Joshua decided to lose to gain more speed. What do you think, will we see a new Joshua ?
Anthony Joshua is weighing around 244 pounds much heavier than the first first and Oleksandr Usyk weighs at 221 pound around the weight he fought last time. I am not expecting any massive difference in this fight unless Usyk was not focusing on training after winning the belt just like Andy Ruiz Jr  Grin.
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Fury definitely shouldn't be retiring when there's people like Usyk still to beat and I think he has to take those fights to cement his legacy.
You never know with Fury. I've been a fan forever, and I still don't know when he's being serious, and when he isn't. It annoys me to a certain extent, and while he's perfectly within his right, and will retire a legend. It just feels wrong to do so, when he could have two more fights against the these two men, and potentially cement his position as the best of his era, and no one would be able to argue it. Currently, we're always going to be like "what about AJ or Usyk". Even though, I'm quite confident he beats both of them, and almost certain he beats AJ, I still want to see it.

I just hope he's playing mind games, and comes back regardless who wins.

He's annoying a lot of people and people are starting to not take him serious. I always though his retirement shtick was just a ploy to try squeeze more money out of a potential fight. I.e. well I am retired but I'll come out of retirement if the price is right. He's obviously not serious anyway since he just offered Chisora 2 million for a fight and I think Chisora is very stupid and/or greedy to ask for more. He got $500,00 for his last fight against Pulev and I doubt he'll be getting even close to that for his next fights so he should have just taken the money. He's on tail end of his career as well so just take the money and retire rather than fighting a bum once a year for less than 100k a pop. Fury should 100% fight the winner of this match and let's face it that's probably going to be Usyk. Walking away when he can unify all the belts, get the biggest payday of his career and probably with out too much trouble seems silly. I guess we'll find out Fury's true intentions by the end of the month as he's going to have to vacate the belt.
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Oleksandr Usyk's desire to buy the rights to broadcast his fight with Joshua for Ukraine so impressed the Saudis that Saudi Arabia announced that it was giving Usyk the right to a fight that he would broadcast to Ukraine on his youtube channel.

https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/1163636/oleksandr-usyk-anthony-joshua-rematch-free-tv-channel-youtube-live-stream-where-to-watch/
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