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Many are underestimating Fortuna and always looking forward to Ryan Garcia's next fight because Javier Fortuna is a nobody, I should say I don't want Garcia to underestimate Javier Fortuna, just b because of his hype, but I got to admit the next fight for this kid, will be the most anticipating fight in all boxing, Jervonta "Tank" Davis is a monster and the kind of uppercuts, likely a calculating opponent and surely a technical genius so Ryan Garcia needs a little smarty moves aswell,

And the fact that Davis was still in his prime while the young Garcia might need more solid boxing experienced, in this upcoming

fight with Fortuna, he needs to show more skills and maturity. If he continues to be more predictable, facing Davis would be

his nightmare. Davis is a monster indeed. He will keep throwing solid punches if you try fighting toe-to-toe and what I see

from Garcia's style, he will dwell with that and also will try his strength. But we never know, maybe a lucky solid punch

will be his ticket to earn a belt Roll Eyes

That is the reason why Gervonta Davis was nicknamed "Tank" because of his solid chin, but his chin was just his second best ability because his defensive and offensive capabilities are indeed much smarter and lethal. That said, Ryan Garcia should really improve himself to the best version that he could possibly attain if he wants to take out Davis soon because if he won't, I'm afraid that Davis will be the 1st boxer to carve a loss in Garcia's record.
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Many are underestimating Fortuna and always looking forward to Ryan Garcia's next fight because Javier Fortuna is a nobody, I should say I don't want Garcia to underestimate Javier Fortuna, just b because of his hype, but I got to admit the next fight for this kid, will be the most anticipating fight in all boxing, Jervonta "Tank" Davis is a monster and the kind of uppercuts, likely a calculating opponent and surely a technical genius so Ryan Garcia needs a little smarty moves aswell,

And the fact that Davis was still in his prime while the young Garcia might need more solid boxing experienced, in this upcoming

fight with Fortuna, he needs to show more skills and maturity. If he continues to be more predictable, facing Davis would be

his nightmare. Davis is a monster indeed. He will keep throwing solid punches if you try fighting toe-to-toe and what I see

from Garcia's style, he will dwell with that and also will try his strength. But we never know, maybe a lucky solid punch

will be his ticket to earn a belt Roll Eyes
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Yes, but he can't get out Davis out of his mouth, hehehe,

Ryan Garcia To Gervonta Davis: I Will Whoop Your Ass, Put You To Sleep!.

Not a good sign though if he keeps on talking about the next boxer he wants to fight because he still have someone in front of him next month. So he better not skip and be over confident against Fortuna because a loss will mean that all of his dream and big money fights are not going to happen because he will be back to zero again.
You got that right, this kid needs to focus on what's in front of him first. What's in his imagination might not happen if he keeps on underestimating Javier Fortuna.
It would be acceptable if his last fight was a TKO to say it would be a short night for Fortuna, but it's not. After that change of head trainer to Goossen his last game against Tagoe was a UD.
Let's see, it's easy to talk trash but you should have the power to back it up.
Was it July 19 or 16? Title says 19 but I am seeing 16.
He was too confident in the fight against Fortuna right now and actually it wasn't too good to be overconfident like this because there would be a gap in his mind that would make this a disaster for himself.
Confidence was good but talking about the next fight before finishing the approaching duel now sounded like underestimating Fortuna.
I know he has quality but it's still not completely decided that he can win.

The truth is that I have seen this behavior in other boxers and they do not do very well, however the boxers who tend to underestimate their opponents is for the direct fight, but not the one that comes after the direct fight, this is something very new for me In fact, Ryan has very good self-esteem, I must emphasize that if he wins the fight against Fortuna and manages to beat Gervonta Davis, he leaves me silent, but I think that is not the way to do things, so much confidence and so much security sometimes goes wrong, I think that above all people should be more humane and have a little more humility, although as it is the business and business model, I may be doing it on purpose to gain more fame.

Ryan Garcia has always been full of confidence. And there's no reason why he shouldn't be confident. He has great boxing skills. He is a rising star who has already made a popular name in the sport. He is undefeated and has a very high knockout rate. So he somehow earns the right to brag and be confident.

But in this particular fight, Ryan Garcia could be as confident as he wants because he is facing a boxer who is already in the end part of his career, a boxer who is almost 10 years older than Garcia.
He's just acting like he's really confident but I know that he's still having some time to get back on track after that mental issues he had after he fought Campbell, true he has some good skills and the needs to be a superstar but he should get himself back to track as soon as possible because his talent will go to waste if he'll stay at his comfort place. I will expect that we will see a different Garcia on the ring next week.

Yes, Garcia's mental issues should be addressed soon because it would be such a waste if it persists and affects his prime years in the sport. But getting a clue from his team's choices of opponents, it seems Garcia is not yet really in the best of shape. He's already got his tune up fight against Tagoe but it wasn't as explosive as others expected. And now this bout is another tune up fight. This is basically choosing another weak opponent to somehow measure if he is already conditioned enough to face quality opponents.

Let's see if his confidence will translate into a better performance inside the ring.
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Yes, but he can't get out Davis out of his mouth, hehehe,

Ryan Garcia To Gervonta Davis: I Will Whoop Your Ass, Put You To Sleep!.

Not a good sign though if he keeps on talking about the next boxer he wants to fight because he still have someone in front of him next month. So he better not skip and be over confident against Fortuna because a loss will mean that all of his dream and big money fights are not going to happen because he will be back to zero again.
You got that right, this kid needs to focus on what's in front of him first. What's in his imagination might not happen if he keeps on underestimating Javier Fortuna.
It would be acceptable if his last fight was a TKO to say it would be a short night for Fortuna, but it's not. After that change of head trainer to Goossen his last game against Tagoe was a UD.
Let's see, it's easy to talk trash but you should have the power to back it up.
Was it July 19 or 16? Title says 19 but I am seeing 16.
He was too confident in the fight against Fortuna right now and actually it wasn't too good to be overconfident like this because there would be a gap in his mind that would make this a disaster for himself.
Confidence was good but talking about the next fight before finishing the approaching duel now sounded like underestimating Fortuna.
I know he has quality but it's still not completely decided that he can win.

The truth is that I have seen this behavior in other boxers and they do not do very well, however the boxers who tend to underestimate their opponents is for the direct fight, but not the one that comes after the direct fight, this is something very new for me In fact, Ryan has very good self-esteem, I must emphasize that if he wins the fight against Fortuna and manages to beat Gervonta Davis, he leaves me silent, but I think that is not the way to do things, so much confidence and so much security sometimes goes wrong, I think that above all people should be more humane and have a little more humility, although as it is the business and business model, I may be doing it on purpose to gain more fame.

Ryan Garcia has always been full of confidence. And there's no reason why he shouldn't be confident. He has great boxing skills. He is a rising star who has already made a popular name in the sport. He is undefeated and has a very high knockout rate. So he somehow earns the right to brag and be confident.

But in this particular fight, Ryan Garcia could be as confident as he wants because he is facing a boxer who is already in the end part of his career, a boxer who is almost 10 years older than Garcia.
He's just acting like he's really confident but I know that he's still having some time to get back on track after that mental issues he had after he fought Campbell, true he has some good skills and the needs to be a superstar but he should get himself back to track as soon as possible because his talent will go to waste if he'll stay at his comfort place. I will expect that we will see a different Garcia on the ring next week.
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This reminds me of the Garcia's previous fight against Emmanuel Tagoe who're experienced with 33 fight with only 1 lose, but after the fight... all we can see is Emmanuel Tagoe is just running away and avoid to punch Garcia. Even Tagoe is unknown fighter, but there's some replay of his old fights that show he can box. I'm sure they have an agreement to make easy win for Garcia and I think Fortuna will so same.

Garcia claiming his next fight will be against Tank, if this will come true and let's say Garcia win, then he's deserve it since Tank isn't a dumb fighter who only looking for money.

And it might end with a unanimous decision as well with Ryan Garcia winning but it will depend on what will Fortuna does because Tagoe running more constant and in the 1st round Emmanuel Tagoe have push Garcia, but I think that constant running away was because of Garcia's strong punch, the Game boy must be hurt by Garcia's devastating punches, but if this would likely happen with Fortuna it will be the same, but I think Ryan Garcia will likely want to deliver that Knockout so badly,

For me, Tank Davis will surely want the money, who wouldn't? and with the rising start of Ryan Garcia, this is going to be 1 epic fight to watch, Tank Davis with his speed and defense against Ryan Garcia's Speed and power, after Garcia wins against Fortuna,


I think it will be easy for Garcia because Fortuna is not even a popular boxer.
His promoter has probably cherry picked this fight for Garcia to have an impressive fight before fighting a real challenger in his division.

If Tank Davis is really waiting for him, then after this we will surely see a very entertaining fight, and I think I grade it an even fight on the chances of winning.

It is likely an unpredictable fight if Jervonta Davis will likely fights Ryan Garcia, and It will be one of Jervonta and Ryan's crazy fights and a bigger fight would likely for the money to rack up, both fighters can not underestimate each other, but me I like the power and speed of Ryan Garcia if I can compare Garcia with a known boxer that has the same punching power and speed it will be a slightly close Naoya Inoue, well this is just my opinion, that is why I liked Ryan Garcia, with this Fortuna fight it will be a Knockout win or if Fortuna will constantly run away then Unanimous decision win for Garcia,



Gaining attentions and media hypes brings more noticeable attractions with the fans all over the sport. It's a business and we can't

remove that fact that he and his camp are doing things like this to attract promoters and fans to be more curious about him, and if he

will win his upcoming fight against Fortuna. His next upcoming fight will be more interesting. Though everything will be known after

he manages winning and how he will perform during the fight.

Many are underestimating Fortuna and always looking forward to Ryan Garcia's next fight because Javier Fortuna is a nobody, I should say I don't want Garcia to underestimate Javier Fortuna, just b because of his hype, but I got to admit the next fight for this kid, will be the most anticipating fight in all boxing, Jervonta "Tank" Davis is a monster and the kind of uppercuts, likely a calculating opponent and surely a technical genius so Ryan Garcia needs a little smarty moves aswell,
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Quick glance at the odds in Stake.com

ML:

Garcia - 1.08
Fortuna - 7.20

So we can say that Garcia is then again like in the Tagoe fight is the outstanding favorite to win. No other betting listed though, so let's wait for the odds on the KO, I'm interested to see what the bookies will gave Ryan or any other betting options for that matter.

we can really say, garcia is the heavy favourite here. don't know if some of the gamblers here will try to bet on fortuna for possible big payout if he will pull this off. right now, no other betting lines are available but maybe few days from now as the fight is getting near.
because if you will bet on garcia with this odd, not worth much. unless, you are betting big on him.

Yes, that conclusion is right, he is the heavy favorite and Ryan should live that billing. We don't want to see some upset, I mean of course if you are going to bet on Fortuna as a long shot, there is no problem with that. But with that odds and then we see the skill levels of this fighter, maybe we will not see any surprise and yeah, let's see if the KO odds will be better than the ML.
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I think that above all people should be more humane and have a little more humility, although as it is the business and business model, I may be doing it on purpose to gain more fame.


Gaining attentions and media hypes brings more noticeable attractions with the fans all over the sport. It's a business and we can't

remove that fact that he and his camp are doing things like this to attract promoters and fans to be more curious about him, and if he

will win his upcoming fight against Fortuna. His next upcoming fight will be more interesting. Though everything will be known after

he manages winning and how he will perform during the fight.
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Fortuna will not be very easy fight for Ryan, specially that Javier wanted to proved that Ryan is just all pure hype. But we have seen a lot of boxers who face Garcia and said the same thing. Tagoe, run, Campbell was close but he got knock out. Duno was calling him before and then Ryan shut his mouth for good never to be heard again. So I think Ryan will win, but he needs to put some extra effort and be impressive in this fight so that he will be again into the social media calling out fighters like Davis and Haney and maybe they will give in.

I think it will be easy for Garcia because Fortuna is not even a popular boxer.
His promoter has probably cherry picked this fight for Garcia to have an impressive fight before fighting a real challenger in his division.

If Tank Davis is really waiting for him, then after this we will surely see a very entertaining fight, and I think I grade it an even fight on the chances of winning.

We can't conclude that though it's true, the chance that Fortuna is just a cherry pick to hypes Garcia's name but after this if in case he will win the fight and it's for real that Tank is waiting for him, oh well, that's something that will prove if Garcia is really one of those sensational fighters in his division,.

Things can only be concluded after the fight. Garcia's chance to be on top after he passes both Fortuna and Davis. Roll Eyes Wink
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Fortuna will not be very easy fight for Ryan, specially that Javier wanted to proved that Ryan is just all pure hype. But we have seen a lot of boxers who face Garcia and said the same thing. Tagoe, run, Campbell was close but he got knock out. Duno was calling him before and then Ryan shut his mouth for good never to be heard again. So I think Ryan will win, but he needs to put some extra effort and be impressive in this fight so that he will be again into the social media calling out fighters like Davis and Haney and maybe they will give in.

I think it will be easy for Garcia because Fortuna is not even a popular boxer.
His promoter has probably cherry picked this fight for Garcia to have an impressive fight before fighting a real challenger in his division.

If Tank Davis is really waiting for him, then after this we will surely see a very entertaining fight, and I think I grade it an even fight on the chances of winning.
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Actually, this can be a hope, especially for me because it will be very exciting to see Davis, especially for now they have quite a name in their class.
But indeed, if you look at it now, even if it is possible to happen, I think it would be very arrogant if you directly make something like this, but on the other hand, you still have to face a battle that, even though you are superior, does not rule out the possibility that something surprising will happen.
Yep it happened on July 16th at the Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles which was expected to be packed with 20,000 fans.

He needs to put his mouth into his clubs and impress the fans, if after this fight he made an impressive performance expect to see more noise about the possibilities of his next money fight, though just the same, he needs to win first before expecting another good fight to come, there are things that Garcia needs to establish against Fortuna a good ticket to have a better future career inside this sport.
And that this golden boy needs to prove not only to the audience but to his opponent as well that he is just not on more talks and assumptions, he  needs to beat Fortuna first so he can finally take himself to a higher level. I have seen how Ryan made his last fights and he really has the guts to win in boxing, but with Fortuna around, i think he'll be a loser this time.

Fortuna will not be very easy fight for Ryan, specially that Javier wanted to proved that Ryan is just all pure hype. But we have seen a lot of boxers who face Garcia and said the same thing. Tagoe, run, Campbell was close but he got knock out. Duno was calling him before and then Ryan shut his mouth for good never to be heard again. So I think Ryan will win, but he needs to put some extra effort and be impressive in this fight so that he will be again into the social media calling out fighters like Davis and Haney and maybe they will give in.
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Yes, but he can't get out Davis out of his mouth, hehehe,

Ryan Garcia To Gervonta Davis: I Will Whoop Your Ass, Put You To Sleep!.

Not a good sign though if he keeps on talking about the next boxer he wants to fight because he still have someone in front of him next month. So he better not skip and be over confident against Fortuna because a loss will mean that all of his dream and big money fights are not going to happen because he will be back to zero again.
You got that right, this kid needs to focus on what's in front of him first. What's in his imagination might not happen if he keeps on underestimating Javier Fortuna.
It would be acceptable if his last fight was a TKO to say it would be a short night for Fortuna, but it's not. After that change of head trainer to Goossen his last game against Tagoe was a UD.
Let's see, it's easy to talk trash but you should have the power to back it up.
Was it July 19 or 16? Title says 19 but I am seeing 16.
He was too confident in the fight against Fortuna right now and actually it wasn't too good to be overconfident like this because there would be a gap in his mind that would make this a disaster for himself.
Confidence was good but talking about the next fight before finishing the approaching duel now sounded like underestimating Fortuna.
I know he has quality but it's still not completely decided that he can win.

The truth is that I have seen this behavior in other boxers and they do not do very well, however the boxers who tend to underestimate their opponents is for the direct fight, but not the one that comes after the direct fight, this is something very new for me In fact, Ryan has very good self-esteem, I must emphasize that if he wins the fight against Fortuna and manages to beat Gervonta Davis, he leaves me silent, but I think that is not the way to do things, so much confidence and so much security sometimes goes wrong, I think that above all people should be more humane and have a little more humility, although as it is the business and business model, I may be doing it on purpose to gain more fame.

Ryan Garcia has always been full of confidence. And there's no reason why he shouldn't be confident. He has great boxing skills. He is a rising star who has already made a popular name in the sport. He is undefeated and has a very high knockout rate. So he somehow earns the right to brag and be confident.

But in this particular fight, Ryan Garcia could be as confident as he wants because he is facing a boxer who is already in the end part of his career, a boxer who is almost 10 years older than Garcia.
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Yes, but he can't get out Davis out of his mouth, hehehe,

Ryan Garcia To Gervonta Davis: I Will Whoop Your Ass, Put You To Sleep!.

Not a good sign though if he keeps on talking about the next boxer he wants to fight because he still have someone in front of him next month. So he better not skip and be over confident against Fortuna because a loss will mean that all of his dream and big money fights are not going to happen because he will be back to zero again.
You got that right, this kid needs to focus on what's in front of him first. What's in his imagination might not happen if he keeps on underestimating Javier Fortuna.
It would be acceptable if his last fight was a TKO to say it would be a short night for Fortuna, but it's not. After that change of head trainer to Goossen his last game against Tagoe was a UD.
Let's see, it's easy to talk trash but you should have the power to back it up.
Was it July 19 or 16? Title says 19 but I am seeing 16.
He was too confident in the fight against Fortuna right now and actually it wasn't too good to be overconfident like this because there would be a gap in his mind that would make this a disaster for himself.
Confidence was good but talking about the next fight before finishing the approaching duel now sounded like underestimating Fortuna.
I know he has quality but it's still not completely decided that he can win.

The truth is that I have seen this behavior in other boxers and they do not do very well, however the boxers who tend to underestimate their opponents is for the direct fight, but not the one that comes after the direct fight, this is something very new for me In fact, Ryan has very good self-esteem, I must emphasize that if he wins the fight against Fortuna and manages to beat Gervonta Davis, he leaves me silent, but I think that is not the way to do things, so much confidence and so much security sometimes goes wrong, I think that above all people should be more humane and have a little more humility, although as it is the business and business model, I may be doing it on purpose to gain more fame.
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Actually, this can be a hope, especially for me because it will be very exciting to see Davis, especially for now they have quite a name in their class.
But indeed, if you look at it now, even if it is possible to happen, I think it would be very arrogant if you directly make something like this, but on the other hand, you still have to face a battle that, even though you are superior, does not rule out the possibility that something surprising will happen.
Yep it happened on July 16th at the Crypto.com Arena in Los Angeles which was expected to be packed with 20,000 fans.

He needs to put his mouth into his clubs and impress the fans, if after this fight he made an impressive performance expect to see more noise about the possibilities of his next money fight, though just the same, he needs to win first before expecting another good fight to come, there are things that Garcia needs to establish against Fortuna a good ticket to have a better future career inside this sport.
And that this golden boy needs to prove not only to the audience but to his opponent as well that he is just not on more talks and assumptions, he  needs to beat Fortuna first so he can finally take himself to a higher level. I have seen how Ryan made his last fights and he really has the guts to win in boxing, but with Fortuna around, i think he'll be a loser this time.
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They should if they want their golden boy to be successful in this fight and reap the fruits with him, I mean we already saw a different Garcia when the kid was fighting against Tagoe, it's just that the latter was too afraid to exchange punches toe-to-toe because he quite know that he would be finished much earlier. I believe Garcia could've make the result different if Tagoe choses to be a fighter and not a runner, but still, the kid still needs some improvement especially now that Fortuna is somehow different from Tagoe.

It's a different type of fighter and if he wanted to challenge much bigger opponents in terms of career, he needs to impress the fans and the promoters against Fortuna, it will be more exciting if he will force a KO against the guy and then hypes his name to challenge a champ in his weight division, if the same outcome will take place same with Tagoe fight the chance of lesser interest may happen.

Let see if how he will come up against Fortuna and how his camp plan a good strategy in winning not just the fight but also the fans all around the world.
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Quick glance at the odds in Stake.com

ML:

Garcia - 1.08
Fortuna - 7.20

So we can say that Garcia is then again like in the Tagoe fight is the outstanding favorite to win. No other betting listed though, so let's wait for the odds on the KO, I'm interested to see what the bookies will gave Ryan or any other betting options for that matter.

we can really say, garcia is the heavy favourite here. don't know if some of the gamblers here will try to bet on fortuna for possible big payout if he will pull this off. right now, no other betting lines are available but maybe few days from now as the fight is getting near.
because if you will bet on garcia with this odd, not worth much. unless, you are betting big on him.
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No doubt, any boxer would of course watch their last fight to examine some mistakes that they may or have been made then try to learn and adjust from it so that it won't happen again. As for Garcia's case, he already have the skills and talent needed but it may need some time to get it sharpen and I hope that Tagoe-Garcia fight will be enough to sharpen his talents and skills. I'll expect that we will see a different Garcia and not just kind of Garcia who's always barking despite he's still struggling in his own situation.

Garcia's camp need to check again those videos to review and to make sure that they will adjust, knowing that the opponents will also look from that previous fight to examine what particular part of their opponents will be lacking, in this case both Fortuna and Garcia will adjust and will look for the betterment of the strategy that they will going to use, not going to advance since Garcia needs to win this upcoming fight to call for a new one and a much bigger one.

They should if they want their golden boy to be successful in this fight and reap the fruits with him, I mean we already saw a different Garcia when the kid was fighting against Tagoe, it's just that the latter was too afraid to exchange punches toe-to-toe because he quite know that he would be finished much earlier. I believe Garcia could've make the result different if Tagoe choses to be a fighter and not a runner, but still, the kid still needs some improvement especially now that Fortuna is somehow different from Tagoe.
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Quick glance at the odds in Stake.com

ML:

Garcia - 1.08
Fortuna - 7.20

So we can say that Garcia is then again like in the Tagoe fight is the outstanding favorite to win. No other betting listed though, so let's wait for the odds on the KO, I'm interested to see what the bookies will gave Ryan or any other betting options for that matter.
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I believe Ryan Garcia has a strong punching power but I have watched many of his fight he is not too strong in withstanding punches from opponents, he has a weak body language and should work in that, he should also work on his off the ring drama, Ryan is very popular for calling out opponents and still not going ahead to fight them, he has called out several big names like tank Davis, and Haney and so on, i wish him well in this fight I believe he is better than his opponent and he should be able to win it.

Well he was caught once during the Campbell fight, but he was able to recover and won. So not sure if that is a weak body language, Campbell punch was so fast that he didn't see it.

I guess that is his strategy to get the attention from media, calling fighter like Tank Davis and Haney or even Manny Pacquiao pre-pandemic and before his mental breakdown, however it didn't materialized. If he wins impressive, we will make that call again to Davis for all the marbles and then Haney to get his belt.
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I believe Ryan Garcia has a strong punching power but I have watched many of his fight he is not too strong in withstanding punches from opponents, he has a weak body language and should work in that, he should also work on his off the ring drama, Ryan is very popular for calling out opponents and still not going ahead to fight them, he has called out several big names like tank Davis, and Haney and so on, i wish him well in this fight I believe he is better than his opponent and he should be able to win it.
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No doubt, any boxer would of course watch their last fight to examine some mistakes that they may or have been made then try to learn and adjust from it so that it won't happen again. As for Garcia's case, he already have the skills and talent needed but it may need some time to get it sharpen and I hope that Tagoe-Garcia fight will be enough to sharpen his talents and skills. I'll expect that we will see a different Garcia and not just kind of Garcia who's always barking despite he's still struggling in his own situation.

Garcia's camp need to check again those videos to review and to make sure that they will adjust, knowing that the opponents will also look from that previous fight to examine what particular part of their opponents will be lacking, in this case both Fortuna and Garcia will adjust and will look for the betterment of the strategy that they will going to use, not going to advance since Garcia needs to win this upcoming fight to call for a new one and a much bigger one.
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