[Boxing]: Ryan Garcia vs Javier Fortuna - July 19 - page 10.

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Quote from: Natalim on June 17, 2022, 06:30:56 AM

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Just like the other victim of Garcia maybe except Tagoe, if they engage and toe to toe, they will be destroyed by that left hook, one of the best in this division.

Tagoe chooses to run and survive than go toe to toe against Ryan Garcia, he just wants to protect himself as he knows he has no chance against Garcia. I don't know why that guy fights Garcia when he has no intention to win and to be honest, his record seemed worthless after his performance.

That guy made Garcia look bad because he is all chase throughout the whole fight so they get Fortuna again because he is a guy who can engage being a two-time champion and so Garcia can boast that he had beaten a two-time world champion, everything has been to make Garcia look great to the eyes of this fans but not to the eyes of the boxing community, after Fortuna, he should look for a better fighter like Tank or Haney if they still want to fight the king of instagram.

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Just like the other victim of Garcia maybe except Tagoe, if they engage and toe to toe, they will be destroyed by that left hook, one of the best in this division.

Tagoe chooses to run and survive than go toe to toe against Ryan Garcia, he just wants to protect himself as he knows he has no chance against Garcia. I don't know why that guy fights Garcia when he has no intention to win and to be honest, his record seemed worthless after his performance.

What can you expect from a non-caliber fighter, he was not even popular and we don't know who Garcia was fighting at that time. His record was impressive but if you look at the quality of opponents he beat, he cannot match up with a champion like Garica.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 17, 2022, 04:45:05 AM

Just like the other victim of Garcia maybe except Tagoe, if they engage and toe to toe, they will be destroyed by that left hook, one of the best in this division.

Tagoe chooses to run and survive than go toe to toe against Ryan Garcia, he just wants to protect himself as he knows he has no chance against Garcia. I don't know why that guy fights Garcia when he has no intention to win and to be honest, his record seemed worthless after his performance.

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The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.

That's right because if I see things like this it is full of risks for Fortuna and it will be profitable for Garcia.
if you look at Garcia's fight he will be even more aggressive if indeed the opponent does something like this and he actually prefers this style of fighting and obviously this is not very good in my opinion even though Fortuna's experience is superior, in this case it will be a risky.

But still there is also risk for Garcia, although is it very slim that he will lost in this fight. But we really don't know what's going to happen because one punch might change everything. That's why Garcia should really take care of Fortuna in the early round, maybe 6 rounds or less and defeat him by a knock out. So that we will see if he really is over with his mental illness and he is really back and focus more on his boxing career now, this is like a second wind for him.

Yes, but I would say, it's a very calculated risk on their side. First, Fortuna was beaten by Jojo Diaz, a b-level fighter. Ryan has more power and have all the advantage in this fight. So if you are just a casual boxing fans, you might think that this is a great risk on the side of Ryan. But it's not, but I would agree that maybe less than 6 rounds or less. Just like the other victim of Garcia maybe except Tagoe, if they engage and toe to toe, they will be destroyed by that left hook, one of the best in this division.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 16, 2022, 06:47:59 PM

Well Ryan Garcia now has a very good motivation, what we can think is that Ryan will have to try much harder to put on a good fight, of course everyone bets on RYAN, for Fortuna it is a super important fight, he wants to win, he will take care of a possible knockout because he doesn't want to look bad, if we put this in context we can say that Ryan has some experience with Fortuna, people know him more and know more about his career, Fortuna wants to make his way to be able to establish himself as one of the best And what better way is to beat Ryan, it would be something that will give him a lot of prestige and the doors will continue to open for him.

A challenging fight between these two fighters, they have reasons to win, especially in terms of their future careers. Ryan needs to be established more, while Javier will try to bring his name to the limelight. Whoever wins the fight will generate a good money fight. Promoters interest will be there and will let them to showcase their talents.

Boxing is more on the money side, hypes with great performance will bring the fighter to the place they wanted to be, both know the value of this fight so expect an enjoyable and interesting action from these two fighters.

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Ryan Garcia's time will come and he should be patient for the time being because he himself know that he is still not his usual condition, after those issues he got, he still needs to prove the fans and people that he is back. He have a shot now to prove himself again and that is defeating Javier Fortuna with an impressive ending, but if his performance was still the same as he fought Tagoe back, I'm afraid he will just add another easy win to Gervonta Davis and give a stain in his own record.

He has this momentum and winning more fights with amazing outcomes will bring more fans back to him, from that part he will soon receive recognitions from promoters and those people behind this sport, Garcia needs to work more he still young and still at his prime, if he makes his way smooth, the next thing to happen is to challenge another title holder and snatch that chance to win a fight.. Roll Eyes

This fight is another ticket for him to bring his name on top, step-by-step process slowly, but if he will keep on winning, there's no other thing but to be victorious again.

I could feel that he will prove himself more in this fight. He's in the process of creating a big name in the industry and he shouldn't miss this chance to be victorious again. His previous matches were too challenging so I guess his losses will give him all the eagerness to be victorious this time. Ryan is young and could build up a strong name in the industry but he should show up his stamina in every fight.

Well Ryan Garcia now has a very good motivation, what we can think is that Ryan will have to try much harder to put on a good fight, of course everyone bets on RYAN, for Fortuna it is a super important fight, he wants to win, he will take care of a possible knockout because he doesn't want to look bad, if we put this in context we can say that Ryan has some experience with Fortuna, people know him more and know more about his career, Fortuna wants to make his way to be able to establish himself as one of the best And what better way is to beat Ryan, it would be something that will give him a lot of prestige and the doors will continue to open for him.

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The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.

That's right because if I see things like this it is full of risks for Fortuna and it will be profitable for Garcia.
if you look at Garcia's fight he will be even more aggressive if indeed the opponent does something like this and he actually prefers this style of fighting and obviously this is not very good in my opinion even though Fortuna's experience is superior, in this case it will be a risky.

But still there is also risk for Garcia, although is it very slim that he will lost in this fight. But we really don't know what's going to happen because one punch might change everything. That's why Garcia should really take care of Fortuna in the early round, maybe 6 rounds or less and defeat him by a knock out. So that we will see if he really is over with his mental illness and he is really back and focus more on his boxing career now, this is like a second wind for him.

this is why most of the time we can witness an upset inside the ring. because when both fighters are already inside, we can't predict their movements. i believe garcia knew his chances over fortuna, why they chose him as his next opponent. but he should not take this fight for granted. as much as possible finish the fight early. because if it will go the distance, the judges may favour fortuna, that is, if there will be no KO involved.

It's very obvious. they just want Garcia to have another easy win because they are not yet convince that he is back already. Though Garcia is still undefeated but I believe he might struggle against a legit champion that is just waiting for him. This fight should give his confidence back again, a win here by KO will make him ready for the next big fight.

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The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.

That's right because if I see things like this it is full of risks for Fortuna and it will be profitable for Garcia.
if you look at Garcia's fight he will be even more aggressive if indeed the opponent does something like this and he actually prefers this style of fighting and obviously this is not very good in my opinion even though Fortuna's experience is superior, in this case it will be a risky.

But still there is also risk for Garcia, although is it very slim that he will lost in this fight. But we really don't know what's going to happen because one punch might change everything. That's why Garcia should really take care of Fortuna in the early round, maybe 6 rounds or less and defeat him by a knock out. So that we will see if he really is over with his mental illness and he is really back and focus more on his boxing career now, this is like a second wind for him.

this is why most of the time we can witness an upset inside the ring. because when both fighters are already inside, we can't predict their movements. i believe garcia knew his chances over fortuna, why they chose him as his next opponent. but he should not take this fight for granted. as much as possible finish the fight early. because if it will go the distance, the judges may favour fortuna, that is, if there will be no KO involved.

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The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.

That's right because if I see things like this it is full of risks for Fortuna and it will be profitable for Garcia.
if you look at Garcia's fight he will be even more aggressive if indeed the opponent does something like this and he actually prefers this style of fighting and obviously this is not very good in my opinion even though Fortuna's experience is superior, in this case it will be a risky.

But still there is also risk for Garcia, although is it very slim that he will lost in this fight. But we really don't know what's going to happen because one punch might change everything. That's why Garcia should really take care of Fortuna in the early round, maybe 6 rounds or less and defeat him by a knock out. So that we will see if he really is over with his mental illness and he is really back and focus more on his boxing career now, this is like a second wind for him.

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They still have faith in Garcia as he's still young and there's still a lot more room for improvement but he got to know that the time is running by so he should definitely make anything possible so that the old Garcia can be revived back, he's a knockout specialist and the people are also wanting to see him defeating boxers in early match or atleast give an entertaining fight.

He should be careful though because just like as you said, he's viewed as an achievement to add in their record.

Indeed! they believe that the guy still has a big shot in this industry, he can bring audience to watch him fighting. They are convinced that with good marketing, Garcia can still make them money. The pressure to win is more on the side of Garcia to prove and to create a good path for him to attract more promoters to offer him more money fights as well with a title fights.

The way he will fight in this upcoming one from Fortuna will give him the ticket to build up his resume back to where it should belong.

Winning is an easy job for Garcia and we can somehow say that this is already a done job for him, but that's not what Oscar is looking for as that's not what Garcia have known in this league. As I said, Garcia is known to be a knockout specialist and his record can speak for him about that that's why winning is the easy part especially if it's against Tagoe and Fortuna and Oscar is looking an impressive result like getting his foes knockout or a TKO by that way, we can slightly say that he's a bit ready against the heavy names in the industry like Tank Davis and Kambosos Jr.

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Quote from: Russlenat on June 16, 2022, 01:38:06 PM

The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.

That's right because if I see things like this it is full of risks for Fortuna and it will be profitable for Garcia.
if you look at Garcia's fight he will be even more aggressive if indeed the opponent does something like this and he actually prefers this style of fighting and obviously this is not very good in my opinion even though Fortuna's experience is superior, in this case it will be a risky.

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^^ That is also what we expect of him against Tagoe, win by a knock out but it didn't happen. However, we can't blame Ryan because Tagoe doesn't want to engage.

But in this fight, if Fortuna is willing to go toe to toe with Ryan, he should at least get a knock down. Again, as others have said, he needs to win impressively, to throw out the argument that he still have those mental issues he has, or his mind is not yet committed on boxing 100%.

well if that's true that he is willing to go toe to toe with the golden boy, then it expected that there will be a KO on this match and surely many people will choose Ryan Garcia as he has good percentage when it comes knocking out his opponent since then.

And of course it's impossible to last upto 12 rounds if it happens, because we all knows that most of the aggressive opponents of Ryan Garcia always ended KO very very early. Cheesy

The chances are good in Garcia's side if Fortuna chooses to have a toe to toe with him, he may have some advantage because of his experience compared to Garcia but the latter is a knockout specialist and he still remain that way if he will have the right chance, he is just struggling now but I know he can overcome it. It will be fun if indeed that's going to happen in their fight next month.

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^^ That is also what we expect of him against Tagoe, win by a knock out but it didn't happen. However, we can't blame Ryan because Tagoe doesn't want to engage.

But in this fight, if Fortuna is willing to go toe to toe with Ryan, he should at least get a knock down. Again, as others have said, he needs to win impressively, to throw out the argument that he still have those mental issues he has, or his mind is not yet committed on boxing 100%.

I actually remember that and I can't refrain myself from laughing a bit about Tagoe because he was so confident and sharp looking at the face-off but when he shared a ring with Ryan Garcia, everything changed after he tasted the latter's punch, he surely knows that this is above his pay grade and he can't exactly beat him so he's gone to survival mode like Rigo. We really expected Tagoe to give Ryan a challenge as he has more experience but it turns out opposite and it's frankly clear that he's just for fighting locally.

Yeah, I guess he was only there for the paycheck but will not allow Garcia to knock him out because of his pride. He simply turtle up and didn't want to engage and obviously in survival mode every round.

Hopefully Fortuna will engage Garcia and push him in this fight so that we will see if Ryan can still fight or the mentally to be a great fighter when facing a boxer that is not afraid of his power. We don't want another Tagoe type of fight for sure.

I understand that Tagoe tried to have a toe-toe-toe fight with Garicas as we saw it in the early rounds but his goal was changed drastically after knowing the intensities of Garcia's punches could bring, we can't blame him though because he tried but it's really clear that Garcia's too much for him even though the kid was still adjusting that time from being inactive.

As for Garcia's foe in his upcoming fight, seems like Fortuna could bring up something that Tagoe could not so let's hope that he can challenge the kid or even push him into corners just to wake up Garcia's true side. I believe the kid is just lacking some push and maybe Fortuna is the right boxer for that.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 14, 2022, 04:58:49 PM

^^ That is also what we expect of him against Tagoe, win by a knock out but it didn't happen. However, we can't blame Ryan because Tagoe doesn't want to engage.

But in this fight, if Fortuna is willing to go toe to toe with Ryan, he should at least get a knock down. Again, as others have said, he needs to win impressively, to throw out the argument that he still have those mental issues he has, or his mind is not yet committed on boxing 100%.

well if that's true that he is willing to go toe to toe with the golden boy, then it expected that there will be a KO on this match and surely many people will choose Ryan Garcia as he has good percentage when it comes knocking out his opponent since then.

And of course it's impossible to last upto 12 rounds if it happens, because we all knows that most of the aggressive opponents of Ryan Garcia always ended KO very very early. Cheesy

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They still have faith in Garcia as he's still young and there's still a lot more room for improvement but he got to know that the time is running by so he should definitely make anything possible so that the old Garcia can be revived back, he's a knockout specialist and the people are also wanting to see him defeating boxers in early match or atleast give an entertaining fight.

He should be careful though because just like as you said, he's viewed as an achievement to add in their record.

Indeed! they believe that the guy still has a big shot in this industry, he can bring audience to watch him fighting. They are convinced that with good marketing, Garcia can still make them money. The pressure to win is more on the side of Garcia to prove and to create a good path for him to attract more promoters to offer him more money fights as well with a title fights.

The way he will fight in this upcoming one from Fortuna will give him the ticket to build up his resume back to where it should belong.

He already had the tools, but he needs to build this confidence first. Definitely he can bring fans to watch his love because admit it or not, he has the talent to back his words. I don't think there will be pressure on him, he should just box just like what he uses to. If the knock out comes along then good, if not, then entertain the crowd and bring them to his favor so that they will continue to support him in his next fight.

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Quote from: stadus on June 15, 2022, 02:53:21 PM

They still have faith in Garcia as he's still young and there's still a lot more room for improvement but he got to know that the time is running by so he should definitely make anything possible so that the old Garcia can be revived back, he's a knockout specialist and the people are also wanting to see him defeating boxers in early match or atleast give an entertaining fight.

He should be careful though because just like as you said, he's viewed as an achievement to add in their record.

Indeed! they believe that the guy still has a big shot in this industry, he can bring audience to watch him fighting. They are convinced that with good marketing, Garcia can still make them money. The pressure to win is more on the side of Garcia to prove and to create a good path for him to attract more promoters to offer him more money fights as well with a title fights.

The way he will fight in this upcoming one from Fortuna will give him the ticket to build up his resume back to where it should belong.

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^^ That is also what we expect of him against Tagoe, win by a knock out but it didn't happen. However, we can't blame Ryan because Tagoe doesn't want to engage.

But in this fight, if Fortuna is willing to go toe to toe with Ryan, he should at least get a knock down. Again, as others have said, he needs to win impressively, to throw out the argument that he still have those mental issues he has, or his mind is not yet committed on boxing 100%.

I actually remember that and I can't refrain myself from laughing a bit about Tagoe because he was so confident and sharp looking at the face-off but when he shared a ring with Ryan Garcia, everything changed after he tasted the latter's punch, he surely knows that this is above his pay grade and he can't exactly beat him so he's gone to survival mode like Rigo. We really expected Tagoe to give Ryan a challenge as he has more experience but it turns out opposite and it's frankly clear that he's just for fighting locally.

Yeah, I guess he was only there for the paycheck but will not allow Garcia to knock him out because of his pride. He simply turtle up and didn't want to engage and obviously in survival mode every round.

Hopefully Fortuna will engage Garcia and push him in this fight so that we will see if Ryan can still fight or the mentally to be a great fighter when facing a boxer that is not afraid of his power. We don't want another Tagoe type of fight for sure.

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I am going to support Ryan - I like his speed and his punching technique.
Unfortunate for him that he is struggling with mental health - I think he is talented and smart - he can focus on his fitness and can live his dreams

I like his confidence and boxing skills too, you cannot compare him to anyone because the guy is still young and have lots of room for improvement. After this fight, I hope he will have his time to shine against a worthy opponent as well. We also need to see him struggling in his practice to level up and beat his strong opponents. He needs to fight someone who is a threat to his current record so that he will gonna further stretch his kills to the max and upgrade his power and speed to outmatch his next opponents until he became an undisputed champion himself.

Despite of his issues on depression and mental health struggles, I can see that he is still ready to give Fortuna the best fight his opponent wanted. Seeing how Garcia fought in his previous games, I know this game will favor him. And yes, he all got confidence and boxing skills that i think will be more enhanced if he will be given opportunities to fight with most of the big time undefeated boxers, so that he can see himself too undefeated in his own chosen career.

If after that fight he take more serious trainings and deal with much heavier sparring sessions, I guess coming in this fight he will be more ready, he's trying to hype his name and the only thing that he needs to do is to win this fight and find a new challenger that will create more noise for his name. We don't know how things will come up, but everything will be settled once he steps inside the ring and showcase his skills, then wins against Fortuna.

Garcia's camp knows the big potential of him. They will bring him back to find the rhythm and try taking down Fortuna in a solid way

of knocking him down..

Another easy challenger, but this time he needs to be more impressive if he wants to have a big fight with the champions that are waiting for him. They know that Garcia went through some mental and emotional problems, so they will see that as his weakness. Promoters are not convince yet, so they bring this another unknown guy just for Garcia to give a convincing win.

I also see that way, promoters wants engagements with Garcia's name, if they will see more interest for him they soon bring him to a money fight that will allow him to face champion from his division, for now, he needs to take down Fortuna with an impressive win, a KO is more preferred to make sure that the social media will hype him up, though at other hand, Fortuna's opportunities to make a name here is also possible,

Garcia is a known fighter. Before he has his issue, beating him will add to Fortuna's achievement as a fighter.

Let see if how they will take this fight to the level that fans will enjoy and be entertained.

They still have faith in Garcia as he's still young and there's still a lot more room for improvement but he got to know that the time is running by so he should definitely make anything possible so that the old Garcia can be revived back, he's a knockout specialist and the people are also wanting to see him defeating boxers in early match or atleast give an entertaining fight.

He should be careful though because just like as you said, he's viewed as an achievement to add in their record.

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Quote from: Baofeng on June 14, 2022, 04:58:49 PM

^^ That is also what we expect of him against Tagoe, win by a knock out but it didn't happen. However, we can't blame Ryan because Tagoe doesn't want to engage.

But in this fight, if Fortuna is willing to go toe to toe with Ryan, he should at least get a knock down. Again, as others have said, he needs to win impressively, to throw out the argument that he still have those mental issues he has, or his mind is not yet committed on boxing 100%.

I actually remember that and I can't refrain myself from laughing a bit about Tagoe because he was so confident and sharp looking at the face-off but when he shared a ring with Ryan Garcia, everything changed after he tasted the latter's punch, he surely knows that this is above his pay grade and he can't exactly beat him so he's gone to survival mode like Rigo. We really expected Tagoe to give Ryan a challenge as he has more experience but it turns out opposite and it's frankly clear that he's just for fighting locally.

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^^ That is also what we expect of him against Tagoe, win by a knock out but it didn't happen. However, we can't blame Ryan because Tagoe doesn't want to engage.

But in this fight, if Fortuna is willing to go toe to toe with Ryan, he should at least get a knock down. Again, as others have said, he needs to win impressively, to throw out the argument that he still have those mental issues he has, or his mind is not yet committed on boxing 100%.

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