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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.
I do think that is already the mindset of Canelo, at his age and for sure he knows that he is slowing down, although he might not admit it. And with that, why put his body to more damage before he can retire? He can pick fighters that won't beat him period. But if we insert David Benavidez name, Canelo might change his rhythm as he doesn't want to give David his chance as he knows that he could get another losses before he retire. So let's see, he has his two fights every year. And so next year in May we might see him against Mbilli or other fighters not name David Benavidez.
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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.

That’s what people are thinking now. If we look at his fights after beating Gennadiy Golovkin in their third fight, none of them have been particularly interesting. Canelo is near retirement and should be seeking serious opponents to challenge his talent, but it seems like he’s just playing it safe, fighting boxers who aren’t even popular in the same division. I’m not sure what his plan is or when he’ll retire, but hopefully, he’ll realize that boxing isn’t just about making money; it’s about building a legacy. So far, he’s not on the right path.

I do agree that maybe father time is calling Canelo and in just a couple of years he might hang up his gloves. And so he is very careful of choosing his opponents to at least preserved the record that he had and doesn't want to have a 3rd lose in his resume.

But before he retire, he should at least give David Benavidez a fight so that the fans will not have that "what if" scenario on our head. Just like the Floyd vs Manny fight, it should have happen years earlier and not that Manny is already a damage good from Marquez and Antonio Margarito (although he won his fight, Manny took significant hit on his body and he confessed to it after that fight.)
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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.

That’s what people are thinking now. If we look at his fights after beating Gennadiy Golovkin in their third fight, none of them have been particularly interesting. Canelo is near retirement and should be seeking serious opponents to challenge his talent, but it seems like he’s just playing it safe, fighting boxers who aren’t even popular in the same division. I’m not sure what his plan is or when he’ll retire, but hopefully, he’ll realize that boxing isn’t just about making money; it’s about building a legacy. So far, he’s not on the right path.
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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.
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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

He has an impressive record with 29 wins, 23 of which are by KO, and he is undefeated. I’m not sure if he’s on the same level as Canelo, but I like how Canelo chooses his opponents, especially those who are undefeated but not as popular. He has a knack for tarnishing their perfect records. We’ll see if this fight happens and how the fans react, knowing it’s another relatively unknown boxer that Canelo is going up against after Berlanga.

Another unknown fighter but still can attract fans and viewers to support the fight, It's Canelo so promoters can easily bring his name and create attentions, though still needed to wait for the outcome of Cabelo's schedule fight, after that possible negotiations against the two camps and if there's a good deal in between for sure Canelo will take this and make huge amount of money.

He needs to be wiser as his prime is way near, compensated because of his name and his status from the ring, we don't know how long it will last.
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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

He has an impressive record with 29 wins, 23 of which are by KO, and he is undefeated. I’m not sure if he’s on the same level as Canelo, but I like how Canelo chooses his opponents, especially those who are undefeated but not as popular. He has a knack for tarnishing their perfect records. We’ll see if this fight happens and how the fans react, knowing it’s another relatively unknown boxer that Canelo is going up against after Berlanga.
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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.
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^^ That has been the practice in boxing though if I'm not mistaken, there are a lot of free tickets being given to the boxers and promoters and they will hand it out to close friends and families. But it doesn't mean that the fight is not successful or if the live gates are really sold out. Even high profile fights like the Crawford vs Spence, there are a lot of tickets that has been given.

For me it's not fair to judge that fight as not sold out or something. Still depends on the money that HE Turki Alalshikh is willing to shell out and win (or lose) at the end of the business day. But I would agree that the tickets given though is very high, it could be just less than 1000. However, it could be that many are really asking for free tickets and so they have to increased the numbers.
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I mean the welterweight should be the center of attention for boxing as it has a solid history before, we have seen great boxers in the welterweight including Manny Pacquiao and Floyd and there were times like Thurman is dominating their division with great names like PR's Garcia, then Porter and then Spence and Crawford. And now who do we have as a champion? Barrios?? Ennis?? Brian Norman??? elevated to WBO full champion.

But now the prime fighters of super welterweight seems to be the new division that is getting the attention of boxing fans. And again, his excellency Turki Alalshikh is trying to bring the best fight in this division and this might be the start that the 154 lbs could be the much talk about weight class and no longer 147 lbs.

And for sure it will attracts the interest of fans and gamblers who loves to see great fights, if both camps agrees then we will see schedules and updates from fighters who will allow fans watching them, his excellency can bring them as money is not a problem and venue can caters big names and for sure behind that there are big names who are also involves in gambling and this kind of setup will bring more interest for sure in this sport.

Speaking of His Excellency, it was reported that the fight between Crawford vs Madrimov was a sell out, and that all tickets has been sold. However, news surface that it's not the case,

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According to a Department of Consumer Affairs and California State Athletic Commission document reviewed by BoxingScene, nearly 4,000 tickets were given away for the blockbuster event, Alalshikh’s first in the United States.

A total of 3,935 tickets to the 21,799-capacity show were categorized as “exempt,” meaning that 18.1 percent of available seats may have been filled but were not purchased. Organizers gave away $500 seats at the highest rate, with 1,116 of those 3,449 available tickets (32.4 percent) going out as freebies.

https://www.boxingscene.com/despite-turki-alalshikhs-claim-aug-3-show-sellout-name-only--185412

So there are lot of tickets that have been given, in other sports it is called complimentary tickets if I'm not mistaken. So this tickets is given to the family of the boxers and whoever they want to give it to.

In any case, this is not the first time though to hear it and won't be the last, although it could mean that the tickets is not totally sold as contrary and maybe it could have been a break-even payout for power broker Turki Alalshikh.

I'm not saying that it was bad promotion or something, but if you are in the business of making money, this does not look very good.
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I mean the welterweight should be the center of attention for boxing as it has a solid history before, we have seen great boxers in the welterweight including Manny Pacquiao and Floyd and there were times like Thurman is dominating their division with great names like PR's Garcia, then Porter and then Spence and Crawford. And now who do we have as a champion? Barrios?? Ennis?? Brian Norman??? elevated to WBO full champion.

But now the prime fighters of super welterweight seems to be the new division that is getting the attention of boxing fans. And again, his excellency Turki Alalshikh is trying to bring the best fight in this division and this might be the start that the 154 lbs could be the much talk about weight class and no longer 147 lbs.

And for sure it will attracts the interest of fans and gamblers who loves to see great fights, if both camps agrees then we will see schedules and updates from fighters who will allow fans watching them, his excellency can bring them as money is not a problem and venue can caters big names and for sure behind that there are big names who are also involves in gambling and this kind of setup will bring more interest for sure in this sport.
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^^ It is because the welterweight division was dominated by only names: Bud Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. During their range, maybe there are a quite few fighters in that weight class. Shawn Porter was on his way out, Danny Garcia has difficulty making the weight, Thurman is injured and was not the same anymore when he comes back. Manny is obviously not in his prime anymore.

So probably it has something to do with the lack of talent thereof and fighters moving up in weight or retiring. But just imagine if in their primes the two of them have Manny, Floyd Mayweather, Victor Ortiz or Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley. I don't think that either Crawford or Spence that dominant in that era.

It could be, but you can't compare era's though.


In any others, there are reports that Devin Haney is making a comeback as per social media, or it because there are videos of him and some random guy being involved in a scuffle,

https://x.com/BBK_4x/status/1824359786986524725

In any case, who do you guys think that Haney should fought in his comeback fight?

For me I would love to see him and Teo Lopez going against each other for the unification fight, WBC/WBO in the line.
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^^ It is because the welterweight division was dominated by only names: Bud Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. During their range, maybe there are a quite few fighters in that weight class. Shawn Porter was on his way out, Danny Garcia has difficulty making the weight, Thurman is injured and was not the same anymore when he comes back. Manny is obviously not in his prime anymore.

So probably it has something to do with the lack of talent thereof and fighters moving up in weight or retiring. But just imagine if in their primes the two of them have Manny, Floyd Mayweather, Victor Ortiz or Miguel Cotto or Shane Mosley. I don't think that either Crawford or Spence that dominant in that era.
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But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.
He will be staying at super welterweight now, so it's good for Crawford. And I think he has no competition at welterweight already, he has done it, unified all the belts when he beat Spence. Although Ennis seems to be the name that keeps popping up, Crawford said that he won't fight Ennis because he is not that well known or simply there might not be enough fans to buy that fight.

Also the super welterweight has a lot of good names, and with his excellency Turki Alalshikh involvement, we might see great fights in this division. It could start with Crawford vs Ortiz, or Crawford vs Fundora. So it's going to be very interesting division in the next couple of years and the thing is that almost all of this fighters are in their primes. So they will start to carve out their legacies.

On their primes and really aiming to bring their names on top, great timing to attract both fans and gamblers, with good and entertaining offers for sure money will flow for these types of upcoming offers we just need to wait for camps to work on and sign a deal after that we will hear schedules that fans are waiting to see those known names inside the ring fighting against one another.
I mean the welterweight should be the center of attention for boxing as it has a solid history before, we have seen great boxers in the welterweight including Manny Pacquiao and Floyd and there were times like Thurman is dominating their division with great names like PR's Garcia, then Porter and then Spence and Crawford. And now who do we have as a champion? Barrios?? Ennis?? Brian Norman??? elevated to WBO full champion.

But now the prime fighters of super welterweight seems to be the new division that is getting the attention of boxing fans. And again, his excellency Turki Alalshikh is trying to bring the best fight in this division and this might be the start that the 154 lbs could be the much talk about weight class and no longer 147 lbs.
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He will be staying at super welterweight now, so it's good for Crawford. And I think he has no competition at welterweight already, he has done it, unified all the belts when he beat Spence. Although Ennis seems to be the name that keeps popping up, Crawford said that he won't fight Ennis because he is not that well known or simply there might not be enough fans to buy that fight.

Also the super welterweight has a lot of good names, and with his excellency Turki Alalshikh involvement, we might see great fights in this division. It could start with Crawford vs Ortiz, or Crawford vs Fundora. So it's going to be very interesting division in the next couple of years and the thing is that almost all of this fighters are in their primes. So they will start to carve out their legacies.
On their primes and really aiming to bring their names on top, great timing to attract both fans and gamblers, with good and entertaining offers for sure money will flow for these types of upcoming offers we just need to wait for camps to work on and sign a deal after that we will hear schedules that fans are waiting to see those known names inside the ring fighting against one another.
Crawford has earned it, he is currently at the peak of his glory with several championship titles and of course in every fight always shows that Crawford is the favorite.
For the future I think it would be very interesting if we really see Crawford fight Vergil Ortiz because he is pretty great boxer and currently has record of 22 fights with 22 wins and has 100% KO ratio.
We can watch Crawford vs Vergil Ortiz as one of the best fights for Crawford because Ortiz is boxer who might be able to make Crawford feel how fight is quite difficult for him to win.
But in this fight if we can really see it then I still pretty sure to make Crawford the favorite.
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But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.
He will be staying at super welterweight now, so it's good for Crawford. And I think he has no competition at welterweight already, he has done it, unified all the belts when he beat Spence. Although Ennis seems to be the name that keeps popping up, Crawford said that he won't fight Ennis because he is not that well known or simply there might not be enough fans to buy that fight.

Also the super welterweight has a lot of good names, and with his excellency Turki Alalshikh involvement, we might see great fights in this division. It could start with Crawford vs Ortiz, or Crawford vs Fundora. So it's going to be very interesting division in the next couple of years and the thing is that almost all of this fighters are in their primes. So they will start to carve out their legacies.

On their primes and really aiming to bring their names on top, great timing to attract both fans and gamblers, with good and entertaining offers for sure money will flow for these types of upcoming offers we just need to wait for camps to work on and sign a deal after that we will hear schedules that fans are waiting to see those known names inside the ring fighting against one another.

Right, with the entrance of Saudi's Alalshikh, the whole boxing scenario has really shift as we have seen great fights being fostered by the power broker. And as least for us fans we appreciate the way he put up his cards.

Unlike other boxing promoters wherein only the main event is worth to watch. And we have seen in the Ortiz vs Bohachuk, they produces knockout of the year and possible fight of the year. And with that, 154 lbs is going to be the center piece now, and if Spence is going to official move up in this division then it's going to be stack up and each fight is worth our money paying them in PPV or even in live gates.
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But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.
He will be staying at super welterweight now, so it's good for Crawford. And I think he has no competition at welterweight already, he has done it, unified all the belts when he beat Spence. Although Ennis seems to be the name that keeps popping up, Crawford said that he won't fight Ennis because he is not that well known or simply there might not be enough fans to buy that fight.

Also the super welterweight has a lot of good names, and with his excellency Turki Alalshikh involvement, we might see great fights in this division. It could start with Crawford vs Ortiz, or Crawford vs Fundora. So it's going to be very interesting division in the next couple of years and the thing is that almost all of this fighters are in their primes. So they will start to carve out their legacies.

On their primes and really aiming to bring their names on top, great timing to attract both fans and gamblers, with good and entertaining offers for sure money will flow for these types of upcoming offers we just need to wait for camps to work on and sign a deal after that we will hear schedules that fans are waiting to see those known names inside the ring fighting against one another.
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But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.
He will be staying at super welterweight now, so it's good for Crawford. And I think he has no competition at welterweight already, he has done it, unified all the belts when he beat Spence. Although Ennis seems to be the name that keeps popping up, Crawford said that he won't fight Ennis because he is not that well known or simply there might not be enough fans to buy that fight.

Also the super welterweight has a lot of good names, and with his excellency Turki Alalshikh involvement, we might see great fights in this division. It could start with Crawford vs Ortiz, or Crawford vs Fundora. So it's going to be very interesting division in the next couple of years and the thing is that almost all of this fighters are in their primes. So they will start to carve out their legacies.
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But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.

Would love to see Vergil Ortiz vs Bud Crawford for unification fight at 154 lbs. Crawford if I'm not mistaken was under contract by HE Turki Alalshikh and so with other fighters. So it's going to be very easy to make this fight.

But I think Crawford will still be the slight favorite here, he is still going to be the A-side despite his last performance and Ortiz showing against Bohachuk. Just interesting to note though that once the centerpiece of boxing the 147 lbs seems to be not as hot as it used to be because the champions are not that well known to boxing fans. And the last name we have is Crawford and Spence.
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But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.
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I am not quite certain why there are people who view Alberto Lopez is a good boxer. If Inoue fought him, we can be quite and very much certain that he will be sleeping on the stretcher before round 6 hehehehe. He does not have much head movement, his footwork is not very good and his punches are not very powerful. There are also headshaking articles written that Lopez has similar power to Prince Naseem Hamed. I reckon these article writers are very much similar to scam ICO shills that hype and trick many people to buy the token hehehehehehh.

When there are 4 or more champions per weight class, not every champion is going to be a future hall of famer. Lopez won the title in Josh Warrington’s backyard and defended it against Conlan in Belfast. He is at least good enough to beat some good UK fighters on their own turf.

The average Inoue opponent gets knocked out in less than 6. Inoue is clearly on a different level than everybody else in the sport and very few even stand a chance against him.

I have not seen the comparison to Naseem Hamed, but there is a lot of clickbait out there that is not worth paying attention to. Lopez is good enough to compete against the best in the division, outside of Inoue if he moves up, but with his reckless style, his championship reign was not going to last very long.
Naseem and Lopez comparison? Nah, not even close I think Prince Naseem is more brandish and flamboyant and really very athletic and he uses it as his defense. As compare to Venado Lopez who is really open and trying to be a Floyd wannabee with his shoulder roll, but he is not that fast to cover his chin. And it just a matter of time when he faces a fighter with speed and power like Leo and then that timing left hook to end the fight. Josh Warrington has been in a lot of wars, his body is showing wear and tear when Lopez faces him. Conlan is not even a top 10 fighter to me.
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