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LOL, but it could be true, maybe the Sulaiman is going in public right now, sort of to like they are doing their job and as it giving Canelo ultimatum to fight Benavidez. But I think they are just lying here, Canelo will still fight whoever they like despite what the WBC is saying to us.


That's big money already and if it is true, by now Canelo could have taken that offer. So more likely it could be good money for Canelo but not close to what  Lewkowicz. And we still have to wait though, but I don't see Canelo vs Benavidez. They will have separate opponent for this year and I don't think they will fight in 2024.

They are having a hard time keeping their story straight. Whatever comes out of the mouth of Sulaiman is likely just damage control. They don’t want to upset Canelo because they don’t want to lose their percentage of his purse. They will most likely continue to allow Canelo to evade Benavidez for as long as he pleases.

I don’t believe the $55 million offer was real. It’s just something that Lewkowicz put out there to get some publicity for Benavidez’ next fight. Sampson’s word isn’t very credible and he’s defaulted on purse bids before so where would he even get that kind of money to offer Canelo. PBC isn’t getting much of a budget from Amazon if all their cards are going on PPV, so Haymon can’t make those kind of guarantees either. It would be more money than what Canelo made against GGG, Canelo vs. Benavidez isn’t close to that magnitude.

For Filipino boxing fans, Dave Apolinario remains undefeated, but it was a close call against Tanes Ongjunta of Thailand. As we was knock down early, and then he storm back and knock out his opponent in the 4th round.


https://mb.com.ph/2024/2/23/undefeated-dave-apolinario-knocks-out-thai-foe-to-earn-world-title-shot

So he is still undefeated and most likely will fight for the belt next against Japanese Seigo Yuri Akui.

I reckon that they would not give the offer with confidence of getting the funds and making more from it after the fight. However, I understand the skepticism because only Canelo has a name that is very known outside of the boxing community. I speculate if this event was going to be created in Saudi Arabia with the support of the Saudi royal family, we can be certain that money will be flowing out of the promoters' ears hehehee.

The WBC president uncle Mauricio has also appeared to change his mind on David Benavidez's next opponent.

WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman said this Thursday through his social networks that David Benavidez's next opponent will not be Saul 'Canelo' Alvarez as had been said in recent hours, and that the interim light heavyweight championship will be disputed by the American fighter of Mexican descent and the Ukrainian Oleksandr Gvozdyk.

Source https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/02/23/65d896bdca47411a698b45b4.html

It's a business for sure PBC will look for a way to make things profitable and as we know Canelo's name still valuable even he was been exposed during the attempt of moving up and snatching Bivol's belt, The value of his name still attractable for the fans and bettors, compared with Charlo as you mentioned seems that they needed to risk and offer him for the sake of good amount of money.

Bringing them together and close the deal might need a story line to make it attractive and might create good impressions for the fans and followers of these two fighters, let see what will be the next update if ever Canelo and PBC will bring this fight to reality.

This is a big test for Tank Davis. Frank Martin is a slick boxer so this will be a big test for Davis. But as far as power, we all know that Davis has the advantage here. And I think this could be one of the best fighter that Davis might have to face in recent years.

Although the super fight in this division is Shakur vs Tank, but might not happen for now. Tank is happy with this paper belt and his camp is not ready for him to lose that 0 so they will have to protect it.

On the 135 lbs division, news says that Tank Davis next opponent will be Frank Martin.

Remember though that Martin supposedly agree verbally in terms to fight Shakur Stevenson last year. But Martin back out in the last minute and Shakur fought with a lackluster performance against Edwin Delos Santos.

So let's see if this will be official in the next couple of days. The fight will be for the WBA lightweight title.

What are the numbers though? I thought it's $35 million and not $55 million for a Munguia fight offer for Canelo? I don't think that Canelo will terminate his contract with PBC, it should be airtight that Canelo will have to fulfill that 3 fight that he agreed. So far he had one with Jermell Charlo. But I think Canelo will chose Jermall Charlo here less risk for him, also a American, Munguia is a Mexican and we all know that his excuse are. I don't think that they are protecting Jermall's 0, I mean he has been going a lot, mental issues 160 lbs seems pretty much a dead division for now and so they will have to force him to go to 168 lbs and fight Canelo and have that storyline of revenge or something to make the fight marketable.

There's already 1 week before this month ends. Maybe Canelo and PBC should reach an agreement otherwise it will be a late notice to the opponent for Cinco De Mayo. I believe Canelo starts training a few days from now or who knows he is already starting his light training. Potential opponents like Jermall, Benavidez, Crawford, and Mungia better start their light training as well or they do not have proper training camps if they wait for the official decision of Canelo.

So it looks like Canelo wants Jermall but PBC wants Benavidez or Mungia. But I guess Canelo will make the final decision as he might have the right to terminate the contract with PBC. I am not confident that PBC has the money or sponsor to offer Canelo $55 million to fight Benavidez but who knows? And it also looks like PBC is protecting Jermall's 0 too.

Mauricio Sulaiman is from the WBC. In any case, it appears that Sulaiman is listening to the fans and he wants to give us what we have always wished to witness for Canelo's next opponent. I have also seen a locked thread about the PBC offering Canelo $55 million if he signs the deal. This will certainly show that Canelo is avoiding king David Benavidez if he rejects this hehehehe.

On Caenlo fans who want to defend him for this. This is boxing where the best fighters should fight each other. This should not be something similar to the Miss Universe.

And it just shows that Canelo is calling the shot, PBC could have go to let Canelo be paid by that huge amount and fight Jaime Munguia. No second options for him. That money is already huge, what more can Canelo ask for? And it's a fight that he will be likely the favorite, so it's a win-win for him.


Time is running out, but I do believed that Canelo is already back in the game around February and could have been doing like training in the mitts to keep himself in shape and not just go and start training once they sign the contract as to who he is going to fight next.

I think this is true Mauricio Sulaimán is eager to see this fight but Canelo Alvarez is furious upon hearing this, as he wants to fight Jermell Charlo in his next fight but instead Sulaiman wants a mandatory fight between Canelo Alvarez VS David Benavidez, and Sulaiman then added that Canelo VS Benevidez is a more logical fight to see than with a Charlo fight. it should be rematched but instead because of WBO's Mauricio Sulaiman, Canelo Alvarez will fight Benavidez.


Canelo Alvarez is the one blooming right now in the scene boxing which is why there are so many offers for him, and even though there is a Mandatory fight that is coming I really think Canelo should give it a try this is great money he will be getting and he should ready himself 2 to 3 fights this year, and that is a huge amount to be offered for a boxer and if that would be me I will be tempted to accept that fight and be ready with the mandatory fight against David Benevidez if it continue as Mauricio Sulaimán has set it up, for me it will be a great fight. 


Sometimes because of the promotion and the back to back offer, you will never know who you will entertain, as this will need a great plan on handling those fighters or Canelo's Camp will need to plan this strategically, if they will go to a Dangerous fighter 1st, or put himself in an easy fight 1st to condition himself, if he would get all possible fights for him this year.

^^ What if Canelo wants Charlo for the same $35 million? Will PBC give in to his demand or would push for a Munguia fight. And obviously $35 million guaranteed is big money, but perhaps Canelo is not satisfied and still ask for more money.

As for Munguia, he could be getting his biggest paycheck and so I think they will sign the contract right away if there will be an offer from Canelo and PBC. However, isn't it too late? We just have 1 week before the start of March, and usually this boxers need 8-12 weeks for training and promotion. So the everything is still on the side of Canelo here, May 5 or at least along that week he usually fights as it is a Mexican day and so he needs to make the decision ASAP.

On the other hand, as per Michael Benson,

https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1760378377184084450


So Canelo is being offered a big $35 million to fight Jaime Munguia of Golden Boy. And that is big money, that is only guaranteed without the PPV and live gates sales. And again, Michael Benson is a reliable source and if by chance Canelo didn't pick Munguia and instead pick Charlo, then we all know that he is taking less risk in his career now.

Not sure if this is true or not,



https://twitter.com/boxing_william/status/1758908335083192470

But based on that statement, it seems that they are forcing Canelo to fight Benavidez next and so they are negotiating behind. Again, there's a lot of rumors that it will be Charlo next for Canelo in May. Let's see how this so could negotiation goes though, if this is real then good for us. But it might have been contradict what Canelo said recently that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican. All we can do right now is wait until we finally hear official statement from Canelo.

I’m really interested in seeing what Ashtray from Euphoria can accomplish as a professional. BoxRec says he already had 1 pro fight already but I couldn’t find any video and the March 2 fight is being advertised as his debut. He already has the fame and money so we will see how serious he is about boxing. I’m thinking he’ll probably turn out like Ryan Garcia, where he might be good but not quite good enough to be world champion.

Yeah, it's crazy how the WBC and the WBA are trying to milk as many fighters as possible by imposing sanctioning fees. The WBC champion in recess IIRC is to those that are out for a moment like injured or something. But in reality, it's just another way of playing with the rules. Luckily, the WBC's plan for the franchise champion did not work out for Canelo and Loma. It should've been similar to WBA's super champion which is now the real WBA belt relegating the WBA regular belt to a minor belt.

Now the WBC has a new division which is the bridgerweight. So far it is only the WBA that followed it. Perfect for the two very corrupt boxing bodies. Hopefully, the IBF and the WBO won't adopt that new division.

He can still chase for greatness still by fighting Benavidez or going after a rematch with Bivol to avenge his defeat. But so far none of that has happened, he chooses to fight the twins. Years ago he had plans to even moved to CW and fight the WBC champion for a catchweight?

What happen to that plan? Now, he is fighting at 154 lbs and 160 lbs boxers? He used to go up in weight and challenges those champions. But it seems right now it's the other way around for Canelo, asking boxers if they want to fight him to go up to his SMW. But doesn't want to fight the likes of Benavidez or even Munguia because he thinks they didn't deserved the fight or they are "Mexicans".

That's weird, but I guess what Jake Paul wanted to be is that to become a professional boxer, 

But I think this is borderline exhibition match? I just look at the odds for the Serrano fight and it seems it is a mismatch as Meinke is a 11:1 underdog. I haven't seen this kind of huge gap in the odds for a professional fight.

As for the opponent of Jake Paul, yeah probably another set up for him, cherry pick fight as we say.

That is not the job of the governing body to see if Canelo is going to win or not, or for any boxer. Their have mandated job is to keep their organization intact, rank their boxers and let them fight each other for the belts. They have 2 champions if you are going to look at it, David Benavidez as interim and then Canelo Alvarez as their regular champion. In a perfect world there should only be one champion and so the obvious path for WBC is to let their supposedly 2 champion fight for it to become their single champion that will represent their organization. Unfortunately, this is not going to happen as they allow Canelo to call the shots.