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Saudi money is paying more than the US fights which is why there's a flock of fighters that are willing to fight there. But Alalshikh from now on wanted the real fights, not the cherry-picking and the casual type of fights. Tank obviously can earn more in Saudi but so far he remains a coward still unwilling to fight champions at 135 and 140. So Davis is not qualified to fight in Saudi which is why Alalshikh made fun of him by saying he will send a pair of gloves instead of raris. Tank's not getting younger too. But maybe he is contented cherry picking in the US, luckily for him and PBC, they have a lot of casual loyalist fans.

So far Matchroom, Top Rank and its partner in the UK Queensberry are in making big fights in Saudi. I expect Oscar De La Hoya's GBP to offer its fighters as well. A scheduled Matchroom vs Queensberry fighters event is also expected and it's going to be big.

But as you have said, Saudi is new but they keep on trending. And there are a US promoter that can milk the oil money there, and it was only Bob Arum for now. Oscar is trying to break into the picture as have said, but I think he says something negative about having fight in the Middle East but now instantly regretting it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/de-la-hoya-appeals-turki-alalshikh-i-make-you-proud--181008

And obviously, Floyd is also making fights in their with his exhibitions and making cool and easy millions.

Tank and PBC should think about it, there are huge money there and he should be at least marketable as their goal is to take advantage while he was still very young.

And Teo did win but in another controversial fight. Not saying Teo underperformed though because Ortiz was a hell of a slick fighter. But I also believed Teo won the fight because he was the aggressor while he was already the defending champion. Ortiz is a high-level fighter which is why Loma also had difficulty winning but at least it was clear unlike Teo's.

After becoming a hardcore follower of this sport since my high school days, I am not buying into any retirement antics. The same with sleeping disorder specialist, Shakur Stevenson.


Yeah. But I guess all of these promoters are doing the same to their fighters who aren't that marketable. Just like PBC is not making a unification fight between its same division champions Subriel Matias and Rolly Romero. Probably because Romero is a low-level fighter who was gifted with a belt but is very popular. While Matias is a very dangerous fighter but because he is not that marketable, there is zero chance that PBC will feed Romero.

And Ryan is fighting Haney. I won't be surprised if Ryan will find ways to back out soon. What was he thinking?

Super lightweight might not be an easy division for Tank to conquer. Not saying that he can't but there could be boxers like Teo Lopez and Devin Haney that can give him problems. But we don't know it until Tank calls out those fighter or stay in his comfort zone at 135 lbs and fight Shakur for a super fight this year. Shakur though if I'm not mistaken says that he is quitting, but I don't call that bluff.

Maybe he is just waiting for the right fighting to come in, perhaps the winner of Kambosos vs Loma.

Might easier to make as they are all in house with Bob Arum's Top Rank. And for sure, this could be very well the plan by uncle Bob.

If I'm the handler of Tank, I will like for him to clean up the division, there are a lot of worthy opponents like Shakur who has been barking on him, and the Loma vs Kambosos for the vacant IBF title. So need for Tank to rush to 140 lbs. But the problem is that Tank is being protected by all cost and they doesn't want him to lose that 0. Although I would agree when Teo Says that this is no longer Floyd's era, that 0 is no longer the norm. As a fighter you will have to fight the best to be the best. So that's what Tank need to do here, fight the best in Shakur or even Loma and the upcoming Keyshawn Davis who has a impressive win tonight.

Agreed and there are boxers in the lightweight division who can move to super lightweight and also the same for super lightweight who can move down to lightweight division. I speculate that if Tank Davis unifies the lightweight division he might challege all champions in the super lightweight divisions and also unify it. This is if Devin Haney has not yet done it hehehe. Also Shakur can also move up to super lightweight to challenge Teo or Haney. We might also see Shakur vs. Tank in super lightweight, I reckon.

I don't know if you read one observation though that after a great performance of Teo, next his fight is like so-so performance for him. Not sure if this is true or not, but he really looks remarkable against the lineal champion in Taylor. But maybe here, who knows, he says he retired, and then un-retired, Lol, what an antics.


Top Rank has this uncanny ability though to read their boxers and how their careers can go. And so if they see that they are not marketable, they will surely dump them. Or if those boxers trying to get back or wanted to get out of their contract, then they file cases and their career are going to be on a hold. Nevertheless Ramirez going to GBP might be a blessing for Ryan Garcia as he will have a good test if they fight and it's going to be all in-house money for Oscar, and obviously easy to set up.

Yes, this is a decent fight already for Teofimo since Ortiz showed how good he is against Loma. And we knew that Teofimo only won a very close decision against an injured Loma. Although I think Teofimo has matured a lot. I think Teofimo was only 22 years old when he fought Loma.

The other top fighters at 140 seem to have difficulty getting title shorts. Arnold Barboza is now 32. His career was fucked up badly by Top Rank. He's probably not marketable and is a high risk. No wonder Top Rank only gave him one fight per year since 2021. He's supposed to become mandatory to Taylor or Teofimo. The same with former 2-belt champion Jose Ramirez who only lost a close decision to Taylor. Ramirez only fought twice since then. But maybe their careers get resurrected as they seem to be joining Golden Boy Promotions. Or their inactivity is about to get exploited by the likes of Ryan Garcia.

^^ There are a lot of worthy fights on 140 lbs in my opinion.

And I think this is good as well, maybe we will see champions vs champions later, but Lopez is defending his belt against a tough opponent. Although Ortiz lost to Loma, it was a great fight and he give everything he can against Loma that time and if not for the experience of Loma in the late rounds, he could have pulled a upset in that fight.

And we have seen that Ortiz is too big at 135 lbs, and so a move to 140 lbs might do good him for him as he will have a crack at the belt that Teo has.

I am very disappoint.




I reckon this fight certainly is very worthy to have a thread created. This is a good fight. However, I am also disappointed that Teofimo Lopez vs. Subriel Matias was not organized. It would have been a unification of IBF and WBO championships.

On Teo vs Ortiz, it is the first time for Ortiz to fight in super lightweight. Teo might win by knockout on the 10-12 rounds. If you compare them, Teo is stronger, faster and the bigger puncher.

The long-awaited Dmitry Bivol Vs Artur Beterbiev fight was announced two days ago and will happen on Saturday 1st June.
The place - you guessed it, Saudi Arabia. They'll be fighting for the undisputed light heavyweight championship. It doesn't get much better than this. Bivol is ranked 1st in the global ranking and Beterbiev is 2nd.
Both are undefeated, with 22 and 20 wins respectively. Beterbiew has an unbelievable 100% KO rate (Bivol 50%). It will be a massive challenge for Dmitrii, but my money will be on him.

well, the justification that Fury gave for postponing the fight was a little funny to me in the sense that the guy said he was fighting different fighters and that in the fifth round he suffered a blow to the eye that caused serious injury to the point of medical intervention may be necessary. So I found it funny because even though it's training the guy works really hard, I hope he heals quickly. Now something I see in this bad situation, is that this will become very disadvantageous for Fury because with this wound, he will have to stop training to recover and the fight has been rescheduled for May 18th, so assuming that this entire month Fury is recovering from his health, so there will be many days without training, when he returns to training next month he will have to train to gain momentum and will need to be very careful

to not suffer another injury, because I read that Turki Alalshikh said that May 18th was the deadline and that if any fighter wanted to postpone the fight, then he would fine the fighter 10 million dollars, something quite exaggerated in my opinion. opinion. but it seemed to me to be something very serious that Turki Alalshikh is talking about, so both fighters must be very careful with their health from now on because they are forced to comply with the fight schedule on May 18th. This year we will have many very interesting fights such as Anthony Joshua's fights, Dmitry Bivol's fight, Artur Beterbiev's fight. Even if there are postponements, this year there are still a lot of good fights that will happen

IMO, he should stay where he is right now and wait for more challengers to come. But if he's bored there already and can't do that much then it's time for him to start challenging on a higher weight division. That's the way to go for him to get more championships and he's already proven himself to his current weight class. If he wants to prove more things then that's what he has to do as he's already unbeatable and proved as a monster there.

Here is an event that will surely give us great entertainment this fight is between Teofimo Lopez and Jamaine Ortiz and it is a fight for the WBO World Super Lightweight Title it will be a good fight to watch here is the full display of the event,

Lopez vs. Ortiz

Thursday 02.08.2024 at 09:00 PM ET
Promotion: Top Rank
Ownership: Top Rank, Inc.
Venue:  Michelob Ultra Arena
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada



MAIN EVENT
Teofimo Lopez VS Jamaine Ortiz

CO-MAIN EVENT
Keyshawn Davis VS Jose Pedraza

MAIN CARD
Abdullah Mason VS Benjamin Gurment

PRELIMINARY CARD
Javier Martinez VS Raul Salomon
Art Barrera Jr. VS Michael Portales
Alan Garcia VS Tomas Ornelas
George Acosta VS Rene Tellez Giron
Charlie Sheehy VS Abdel Sauceda
Antonio Zepeda VS Lemir Isom-Riley

All information was from TAPOLOGY: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/108571-lopez-vs-ortiz
Thread in Bitcointalk: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/teofimo-lopez-vs-jamaine-ortiz-wbo-welterweight-title-february-8-5478683

The new date for the Fury Vs Usyk fight has been announced. It's scheduled to happen on 18th May. So a little over 3 months from now, not as bad as many have expected.
But it's getting more interesting this time:

Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/fury-usyk-rescheduled-new-date-anthony-joshua-b2490193.html

AJ is fighting Ngannou in March, if he defeats him easily, many would probably prefer to see Fury fighting AJ instead of Usyk. Maybe Ngannou should get an offer to be a replacement option for Fury if he pulls out again 

It is always going to be better for a fighter to wait and take the best opportunity that he has. What I am trying to say is that it is a big mistake for any fighter to rush into a fight. Inoue is definitely a great fighter, of course, he might be a little hated. Actually, he is quite a lot hated. But that does not mean he's not on the way to making a world record as you said.

Yes, I agree that they should wait before making any arrangements to fight each other. Because that will probably not be the best decision for them at this moment.

And I think both of them said the same in public, Davis can't go down in weight and he is the far bigger boxer. And for Inoue, he said that perhaps 126 lbs will be his next stop and he might have difficulty making the next weight at 130 lbs as he will be too small on that division.

With that, I don't see them facing in the boxing ring in the future. Tank Davis has more fighters that he should be facing, specially that they are dub the 4 kings, him, Garcia, Haney and Teo. Only him and Ryan has faced so far, and there are talks that him and Haney might be the next, but who knows. He has been protected in his whole career that maybe they will not let Davis face anyone that they think will be a big risk or if they doesn't have the advantage, or can't dictate the negotiations like what they did against Ryan Garcia.

They cannot force themselves to fight each other while there are lots of opportunities waiting for them and they could just simply make this fight happen after they successfully beat every challenger and run out of any available opponent that could fit their strength. Anyway, that would be best for them if they could just wait before making any arrangements for their fight because as we know, Inoue is slowly making a world record for himself and not letting this chance go to waste because this is not something others can have to demolish everyone who wants to challenge him and take their belts.

All world-class fighters' sparring sessions are recorded to study and review their performances, habits, strengths, and weaknesses. So until I can see a much clearer resolution, I will continue to believe the cut was intentionally made earlier and the sparring session was only scripted to make an excuse.

Hopefully, the $10 million deduction is not part of the purse otherwise Fury can just duck again, retire again, and fight again. Maybe the $10 million penalty is payable even if the fight is canceled. But actually, even the $10 million penalty is just small compared to the possible Fury-Joshua showdown where both fighters can earn $50 to $100 million each. And it may not happen or the value becomes lower if Usyk humiliates Fury.

You are right, this is not very disappointing news because the fight for the undisputed heavyweight title between Tyson Fury vs Oleksandr Usyk has become the schedule that everyone has been waiting for.
If there is cancellation or longer postponement then this will obviously be very disappointing and of course there will be unfavorable sentiment among boxing fans.
We just want to see how two heavyweight monsters put all their titles on the line to prove who is truly the strongest champion.

Hahaha, this is ridiculous because Davis himself has stated that he will never be able to meet Inoue and he has also stated that he is surprised by the sentiments of people who want him to fight Inoue.
Obviously this is not about title or victory but about the weight of the two which is quite far apart, this is the main reason why Davis refuses to meet the KO monster Inoue.
After all, Inoue has also perfected the title he earned and now only time will tell whether he stays or will jump to a division above him by trying to become challenger for other champions in higher class.