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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 10, 2024, 10:35:05 PM

I am presently watching Luis Alberto Lopez vs. Angelo Leo for the world IBF featherweight division championship. The champion is Lopez from Mexico and anyone who is watching this can be quite certain that if Inoue can increase his weight for this division, he can certainly win against Lopez hehehe.

I predict that next year, Inoue will leave super bantamweight and begin unifying the championships of featherweight with the last fight of the unification against Brandon Figueroa in Las Vegas heheheheheh.

Lopez has had some very good wins and was looking like the guy who would get the opportunity against Inoue. Unfortunately, he has always been careless with his defense and tonight he got knocked out cold. That payday against Inoue has vanished and that is perhaps why he was in tears in his locker room after the fight.

Featherweight is a stacked division. There are around a dozen fighters who would all be considered credible opponents for Inoue. If he can become undisputed, it will elevate his legacy even further. It will not be an easy task because these fighters have size and power that he is not used to.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 10, 2024, 10:35:05 PM

I am presently watching Luis Alberto Lopez vs. Angelo Leo for the world IBF featherweight division championship. The champion is Lopez from Mexico and anyone who is watching this can be quite certain that if Inoue can increase his weight for this division, he can certainly win against Lopez hehehe.

I predict that next year, Inoue will leave super bantamweight and begin unifying the championships of featherweight with the last fight of the unification against Brandon Figueroa in Las Vegas heheheheheh.

And we have a new IBF featherweight champion, Angelo Leo knocks the lights out of Alberto Lopez. Knockout of the year would you agree? Unfortunately, Lopez doesn't want to play defense and this cost his belt as that left hook really clip him for good. And he might might be the same again after this knockout, he has the talent but if you are fighting these kind of fighters, with power, you should at least put your hands up and not disrespect the power of your opponent.

Yeah, it was reported that Inoue will go up and so he will have to deal with this kind of fighters, bigger and more power and has chin and maybe this set of featherweight can hold and measure very well on Inoue's power. Hopefully, once Inoue goes up to 126 lbs, I want him to test himself against Leo here and see if he can pass this boxer with power, and hand speed and chin as well.

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I am presently watching Luis Alberto Lopez vs. Angelo Leo for the world IBF featherweight division championship. The champion is Lopez from Mexico and anyone who is watching this can be quite certain that if Inoue can increase his weight for this division, he can certainly win against Lopez hehehe.

I predict that next year, Inoue will leave super bantamweight and begin unifying the championships of featherweight with the last fight of the unification against Brandon Figueroa in Las Vegas heheheheheh.

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Quote from: Finestream on August 09, 2024, 07:17:49 AM

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So I'm not surprised that as early as in his suspension, he is targeting Crawford as he is the man to beat at 147 lbs to 154 lbs. However, I do not think that Ryan has the skills to beat this version of Crawford. Even at his age, Crawford is still superior to 90% of the 147 lbs to 154 lbs.

I’d love to see him give it a shot. We were already surprised when he beat Haney, so I think he has a chance against Crawford. I'm sure Crawford would love to fight Garcia since he’s a fan favorite, which means big money for both of them as people will definitely tune in. The way Ryan talks and acts has probably helped boost his career and visibility, and I think in the boxing world, among real fans, everyone knows who he is by now, so let's bring this fight on.

Exactly, there could be boxing fans that might hate Ryan Garcia because he has caught with PEDS in his system. But there could be that can argue that it could have been tainted and he really don't know that. And the way he really beat Haney, we all know that Devin can't get over with that first lost of his career.

And again, he weight more than 140 lbs and for sure he can make the weight at 147 lbs or even 154 lbs. And I also think that Crawford can go down to welterweight if ever he is willing to face Ryan. And as Crawford is not getting any younger, last couple of fights for him should be money fight. Then we will see how Ryan is going to sell this fight, he really knows how to do that, be it in social media or what he is going to say against Crawford in face off or the kick off press conference.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 09, 2024, 06:11:11 AM

So I'm not surprised that as early as in his suspension, he is targeting Crawford as he is the man to beat at 147 lbs to 154 lbs. However, I do not think that Ryan has the skills to beat this version of Crawford. Even at his age, Crawford is still superior to 90% of the 147 lbs to 154 lbs.

I’d love to see him give it a shot. We were already surprised when he beat Haney, so I think he has a chance against Crawford. I'm sure Crawford would love to fight Garcia since he’s a fan favorite, which means big money for both of them as people will definitely tune in. The way Ryan talks and acts has probably helped boost his career and visibility, and I think in the boxing world, among real fans, everyone knows who he is by now, so let's bring this fight on.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 08, 2024, 09:26:36 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 06, 2024, 10:35:59 PM

On Bud Crawford's statement, similar to you I also agree. However, this might only be a trick from King Ry. He is only showing that he is not serious in social media but he is training for a knockout on his next opponent hehehe.

Bud though is not known to be very much involved in social media like Ryan, although from time to time he has responded to haters and bashers. But Ryan is on a different level as far as his social media accounts that sometimes he posted things that is absurd and then something that is personal.

Definitely, he will be looking for a knockout win every fight, I think that was his goal specially that he tasted that big knockout win against Haney. But we will have to wait, until his suspension is lift up, we really don't know what weight Ryan will be fighting, maybe he will go up to 147 - 154 lbs and challenge Crawford or any champions for that matter as this division is the centerpiece of boxing.

Crawford seldom answers anyone in his social media, and from what I observed, it's only boxers that he did respond in the past, those who are calling him out like Boots Ennis and Spence.

I do agree that when Ryan comes back, he might go as high as Super Welterweight, he is tall and very young and so his body is developing as it should be. So I'm not surprised that as early as in his suspension, he is targeting Crawford as he is the man to beat at 147 lbs to 154 lbs. However, I do not think that Ryan has the skills to beat this version of Crawford. Even at his age, Crawford is still superior to 90% of the 147 lbs to 154 lbs.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 06, 2024, 10:35:59 PM

On Bud Crawford's statement, similar to you I also agree. However, this might only be a trick from King Ry. He is only showing that he is not serious in social media but he is training for a knockout on his next opponent hehehe.

Bud though is not known to be very much involved in social media like Ryan, although from time to time he has responded to haters and bashers. But Ryan is on a different level as far as his social media accounts that sometimes he posted things that is absurd and then something that is personal.

Definitely, he will be looking for a knockout win every fight, I think that was his goal specially that he tasted that big knockout win against Haney. But we will have to wait, until his suspension is lift up, we really don't know what weight Ryan will be fighting, maybe he will go up to 147 - 154 lbs and challenge Crawford or any champions for that matter as this division is the centerpiece of boxing.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on August 06, 2024, 09:58:54 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2024, 11:05:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 01, 2024, 04:50:15 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 12:35:34 AM

On Haney's loss to King Ry, officially this has become a no contest because of King Ry's alleged use of ostarine. According to uncle Dana of the UFC, Ryan will not be found guilty if it was his legal team that represented Ryan. In the interview, uncle Dana was very much certain it was from contaminated supplements.

I'm not sure what the legal team of Dana will do though if they are the one who handle the case of Ryan Garcia. We don't know that names of them, but perhaps they have a lot of experience with this and representing UFC fighters caught with illegal substance in their body.

I am not quite certain why you want to put a stain on uncle Dana. What uncle Dana said was very much clear. He said his legal team certainly thinks the positive result on King Ry's test was because of tainted supplements. They are saying that King Ry did not cheat and his legal team has mishandled the case. If it was the UFC's legal team that helped King Ry, he would be innocent according to uncle Dana.

However, if Ryan cheated, why would uncle Dana's legal team represent a cheater?

I don't know, but perhaps the argument could boil down if Ryan really take the PEDS or not. And probably this is what Dana and his supposedly legal team might argue against the judge so that Ryan is not going to be banned. So the first thing that they have in mind is that Ryan did not cheat or take the drugs in his knowledge. And after that premised then they can go back and argue that Ryan and his team didn't know that the supplements he is taking is laden with this banned substance. But I guess the legal team of Ryan might have approach it different. Anyhow, the judgement has been handled and Ryan has been serving it already.

Yeah, that's might be something if Ryan's camp knew it that they are taking illegal supplement that's another side but it's been handle and I don't any changes after, they just need to move forward and continue their careers, if they got that chance to fight again then better to clear everything first to make sure incident like this won't happen again.

A good rematch with clean from anything will settle the real winner, I like the chance of this drama converted to another million dollar money making for both camps.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on August 05, 2024, 11:31:32 PM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2024, 11:05:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 01, 2024, 04:50:15 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 12:35:34 AM

On Haney's loss to King Ry, officially this has become a no contest because of King Ry's alleged use of ostarine. According to uncle Dana of the UFC, Ryan will not be found guilty if it was his legal team that represented Ryan. In the interview, uncle Dana was very much certain it was from contaminated supplements.

I'm not sure what the legal team of Dana will do though if they are the one who handle the case of Ryan Garcia. We don't know that names of them, but perhaps they have a lot of experience with this and representing UFC fighters caught with illegal substance in their body.

I am not quite certain why you want to put a stain on uncle Dana. What uncle Dana said was very much clear. He said his legal team certainly thinks the positive result on King Ry's test was because of tainted supplements. They are saying that King Ry did not cheat and his legal team has mishandled the case. If it was the UFC's legal team that helped King Ry, he would be innocent according to uncle Dana.

However, if Ryan cheated, why would uncle Dana's legal team represent a cheater?

Well said.
This is the exact words that he said.

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“You know I hate talking about drug testing. But with all of our knowledge that we have in the years that we’ve been drug testing; we believe the people who handle the drug testing that he had taken a tainted supplement,” he added. “He did not cheat. If he had the right people around him and had the right, you know, that wouldn’t happen.”

https://www.yardbarker.com/general_sports/articles/dana_white_reveals_why_ryan_garcia_did_not_cheat/s1_17348_40573811

Then he added.

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“It’s none of my business and not my place to even talk about it,” he said.

I think Daddy Dana White just wants to tell his opinion about the matter of Ryan Garcia being accused of using an illegal drug. Also, I think he knows Ryan and he also knows that he won't go that far to take a drug to make himself better.
He is pointing out those who are handling Ryan and they did a bad job at protecting him. There should've been a fight first before they will just let go of that win.

Speaking of Ryan Garcia, he is getting some heat against Terence Crawford after stirring up a lot of controversies against him.
Crawford didn't let it pass and struck back.

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“I don’t have a relationship with [Garcia] like that, that’s not my place,” Crawford said of Garcia. “The guys that surround him, for you to call yourself a friend, a brother, a cousin, to watch a man like that self-destruct. What type of friend are you? Anything that I do that’s gonna challenge me, anything negative, or lead me down the wrong path, there’s not one person in my camp right now that wouldn’t grab me and be like ‘Hey, why you doing that?’…

I agree with Crawford on this one. It seems like whoever are in his circle are not the right people for him to grow and be better. It will be a waste, he is still young.

I reckon that the most important lesson to get from this occurrence is King Ry did not cheat and he was telling the truth when he shared in social media that he did not use steroids. There were also many accusations from Devin Haney and his team, however, who was telling the truth and who was lying? This is very important to know despite if the judge has sentenced Ryan already.

On Bud Crawford's statement, similar to you I also agree. However, this might only be a trick from King Ry. He is only showing that he is not serious in social media but he is training for a knockout on his next opponent hehehe.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2024, 11:05:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 01, 2024, 04:50:15 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 12:35:34 AM

On Haney's loss to King Ry, officially this has become a no contest because of King Ry's alleged use of ostarine. According to uncle Dana of the UFC, Ryan will not be found guilty if it was his legal team that represented Ryan. In the interview, uncle Dana was very much certain it was from contaminated supplements.

I'm not sure what the legal team of Dana will do though if they are the one who handle the case of Ryan Garcia. We don't know that names of them, but perhaps they have a lot of experience with this and representing UFC fighters caught with illegal substance in their body.

I am not quite certain why you want to put a stain on uncle Dana. What uncle Dana said was very much clear. He said his legal team certainly thinks the positive result on King Ry's test was because of tainted supplements. They are saying that King Ry did not cheat and his legal team has mishandled the case. If it was the UFC's legal team that helped King Ry, he would be innocent according to uncle Dana.

However, if Ryan cheated, why would uncle Dana's legal team represent a cheater?

I don't know, but perhaps the argument could boil down if Ryan really take the PEDS or not. And probably this is what Dana and his supposedly legal team might argue against the judge so that Ryan is not going to be banned. So the first thing that they have in mind is that Ryan did not cheat or take the drugs in his knowledge. And after that premised then they can go back and argue that Ryan and his team didn't know that the supplements he is taking is laden with this banned substance. But I guess the legal team of Ryan might have approach it different. Anyhow, the judgement has been handled and Ryan has been serving it already.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 05, 2024, 11:05:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 01, 2024, 04:50:15 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 12:35:34 AM

On Haney's loss to King Ry, officially this has become a no contest because of King Ry's alleged use of ostarine. According to uncle Dana of the UFC, Ryan will not be found guilty if it was his legal team that represented Ryan. In the interview, uncle Dana was very much certain it was from contaminated supplements.

I'm not sure what the legal team of Dana will do though if they are the one who handle the case of Ryan Garcia. We don't know that names of them, but perhaps they have a lot of experience with this and representing UFC fighters caught with illegal substance in their body.

I am not quite certain why you want to put a stain on uncle Dana. What uncle Dana said was very much clear. He said his legal team certainly thinks the positive result on King Ry's test was because of tainted supplements. They are saying that King Ry did not cheat and his legal team has mishandled the case. If it was the UFC's legal team that helped King Ry, he would be innocent according to uncle Dana.

However, if Ryan cheated, why would uncle Dana's legal team represent a cheater?

Well said.
This is the exact words that he said.

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“You know I hate talking about drug testing. But with all of our knowledge that we have in the years that we’ve been drug testing; we believe the people who handle the drug testing that he had taken a tainted supplement,” he added. “He did not cheat. If he had the right people around him and had the right, you know, that wouldn’t happen.”

https://www.yardbarker.com/general_sports/articles/dana_white_reveals_why_ryan_garcia_did_not_cheat/s1_17348_40573811

Then he added.

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“It’s none of my business and not my place to even talk about it,” he said.

I think Daddy Dana White just wants to tell his opinion about the matter of Ryan Garcia being accused of using an illegal drug. Also, I think he knows Ryan and he also knows that he won't go that far to take a drug to make himself better.
He is pointing out those who are handling Ryan and they did a bad job at protecting him. There should've been a fight first before they will just let go of that win.

Speaking of Ryan Garcia, he is getting some heat against Terence Crawford after stirring up a lot of controversies against him.
Crawford didn't let it pass and struck back.

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“I don’t have a relationship with [Garcia] like that, that’s not my place,” Crawford said of Garcia. “The guys that surround him, for you to call yourself a friend, a brother, a cousin, to watch a man like that self-destruct. What type of friend are you? Anything that I do that’s gonna challenge me, anything negative, or lead me down the wrong path, there’s not one person in my camp right now that wouldn’t grab me and be like ‘Hey, why you doing that?’…

I agree with Crawford on this one. It seems like whoever are in his circle are not the right people for him to grow and be better. It will be a waste, he is still young.

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Quote from: Jating on August 01, 2024, 04:50:15 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 12:35:34 AM

On Haney's loss to King Ry, officially this has become a no contest because of King Ry's alleged use of ostarine. According to uncle Dana of the UFC, Ryan will not be found guilty if it was his legal team that represented Ryan. In the interview, uncle Dana was very much certain it was from contaminated supplements.

I'm not sure what the legal team of Dana will do though if they are the one who handle the case of Ryan Garcia. We don't know that names of them, but perhaps they have a lot of experience with this and representing UFC fighters caught with illegal substance in their body.

I am not quite certain why you want to put a stain on uncle Dana. What uncle Dana said was very much clear. He said his legal team certainly thinks the positive result on King Ry's test was because of tainted supplements. They are saying that King Ry did not cheat and his legal team has mishandled the case. If it was the UFC's legal team that helped King Ry, he would be innocent according to uncle Dana.

However, if Ryan cheated, why would uncle Dana's legal team represent a cheater?

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In other news, here are the Ring Magazine's pound for pound list:

1️⃣🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk
2️⃣🇯🇵 Naoya Inoue
3️⃣🇺🇸 Terence Crawford
4️⃣🇲🇽 Canelo Alvarez
5️⃣🇺🇸 Jesse 'Bam' Rodriguez
6️⃣🇷🇺 Artur Beterbiev
7️⃣🇷🇺 Dmitry Bivol
8️⃣🇺🇸 Gervonta Davis
9️⃣🇯🇵 Junto Nakatani
🔟🇺🇸 Devin Haney

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1818487108061085860

Do you agree on the list? Spence was out, then Haney getting in the list as rank 10th.

Jesse Bam Rodriguez has already surpassed Tank Davis at only 24 years old. It is very impressive what he has accomplished in his young career. Canelo still being in the top 5 is a bit generous. Canelo peaked when he became undisputed champion against Plant in 2021. Since then, it’s been a loss to Bivol and cherry picked opponents like Ryder, Charlo and a very old GGG. He gets credit for his accomplishments in the past, but he cannot live off that forever. I consider Bivol and Beterbiev to be better fighters at this moment but due to inactivity we have not seen their full potential.

I guess they still given preferential treatment to Canelo as this point in time. He had decline already and as you have said, cherry picking his fight after his lost to Bivol. I like Bam Rodriguez and it seems to be that his could be the one to break the monopoly of Japanese fighters in the lower rank right now.

As for Haney, yes, he could not be in the top 10. But it seems that we have the weakest of the champions right now, they don't even include 140 lbs like Teo Lopez or even Pitbull Cruz to represent that weight class.

Canelo is more for the money, he's taking his time knowing that he's no longer on his prime so cherry picking his next opponents just to secure decent profits, though he still got that fame especialy from those who organize this kind of listing, but in terms of capabilities he might lose if he will take the challenge from a fighter who can compete the he did, after that fight against Bivol when he see that his tactics is no longer effective he just quitely observing and waiting for good offer with secure benefits.

Yes, that is very clear since he lost to Bivol, he should have lost to GGG though. But now since Canelo is getting old, for sure his adviser is telling him to carefully select an opponent that will not be a treat or very easy fight. Now fighting Berlanga next this September and most like he will be getting the bigger purse split again.

No denying though that even if Canelo is declining, still other boxer sees him as the cash cow and so they are willing to fight even if the purse split favors Canelo. After all if they upset him, it will be a good stepping stone for them just like what Bivol is right now.

And talking about Canelo, David Morrell, will also be moving up at 175 lbs to face Radivoje Kalajdzic on the pay-per-view undercard of Israil Madrimov vs. Terence Crawford. It another fighter at 168 lbs that Canelo doesn't want to fight.

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I don't know if it has much to do with the topic of boxing but it's more Olympic but I find what happened with the Algerian athlete really in bad taste and I think that my bet fell through precisely because she didn't want to fight, I don't know if I The choice of retiring seems very right

Tell me more about this boxer.

I haven't really followed the boxing fights in the Olympics, but I read there are boxers in the women's division complaining about the organizers allowing a transgender to participate, and they are dominating now. Does that issue fall into that category?

And another girl in question has won her match as Taiwan's Lin Yu-ting beat Sitora Turdibekova. And I think you are referring to Algerian boxer Imane Khelif who beat Angela Carin. And according to Angela, she quit because she can't take it anymore as Khelif, quitting in just 46 seconds.

So this is really controversial decision from IOC to let both boxers to compete because of some gender issues or testing. And it's more from that, I mean they are ban by IBA, however IOC stripped of responsibility from this year's Olympics that's why the two female boxers are allowed to compete now.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 02, 2024, 04:56:29 AM

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Quote from: Jating on July 31, 2024, 04:08:56 AM

In other news, here are the Ring Magazine's pound for pound list:

1️⃣🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk
2️⃣🇯🇵 Naoya Inoue
3️⃣🇺🇸 Terence Crawford
4️⃣🇲🇽 Canelo Alvarez
5️⃣🇺🇸 Jesse 'Bam' Rodriguez
6️⃣🇷🇺 Artur Beterbiev
7️⃣🇷🇺 Dmitry Bivol
8️⃣🇺🇸 Gervonta Davis
9️⃣🇯🇵 Junto Nakatani
🔟🇺🇸 Devin Haney

https://x.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1818487108061085860

Do you agree on the list? Spence was out, then Haney getting in the list as rank 10th.

Jesse Bam Rodriguez has already surpassed Tank Davis at only 24 years old. It is very impressive what he has accomplished in his young career. Canelo still being in the top 5 is a bit generous. Canelo peaked when he became undisputed champion against Plant in 2021. Since then, it’s been a loss to Bivol and cherry picked opponents like Ryder, Charlo and a very old GGG. He gets credit for his accomplishments in the past, but he cannot live off that forever. I consider Bivol and Beterbiev to be better fighters at this moment but due to inactivity we have not seen their full potential.

I guess they still given preferential treatment to Canelo as this point in time. He had decline already and as you have said, cherry picking his fight after his lost to Bivol. I like Bam Rodriguez and it seems to be that his could be the one to break the monopoly of Japanese fighters in the lower rank right now.

As for Haney, yes, he could not be in the top 10. But it seems that we have the weakest of the champions right now, they don't even include 140 lbs like Teo Lopez or even Pitbull Cruz to represent that weight class.

Canelo is more for the money, he's taking his time knowing that he's no longer on his prime so cherry picking his next opponents just to secure decent profits, though he still got that fame especialy from those who organize this kind of listing, but in terms of capabilities he might lose if he will take the challenge from a fighter who can compete the he did, after that fight against Bivol when he see that his tactics is no longer effective he just quitely observing and waiting for good offer with secure benefits.

Yes, it's all for the money for Canelo now, he had a fight with Berlanga and if he gets pass him for sure he will be looking for Crawford. Crawford is a brand ambassador for HE His Turki Alalshikh. And so Canelo is banking that they are going to make that fight happen and give him what he is asking for.

Crawford will have a fight with Madrimov at 154 lbs, so this is a great start for him. If he shows and knockout Madrimov here, then there will be hype on Canelo and him fighting as he might call out Canelo post fight interview.

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Quote from: Questat on August 02, 2024, 04:41:08 AM

Quote from: Sg4j1n3ll0 on August 02, 2024, 04:26:50 AM

I don't know if it has much to do with the topic of boxing but it's more Olympic but I find what happened with the Algerian athlete really in bad taste and I think that my bet fell through precisely because she didn't want to fight, I don't know if I The choice of retiring seems very right

Tell me more about this boxer.

I haven't really followed the boxing fights in the Olympics, but I read there are boxers in the women's division complaining about the organizers allowing a transgender to participate, and they are dominating now. Does that issue fall into that category?

What being talked about about Imane Khelif?
She was indeed accused of being transgender but that was only proven because the basic testosterone hormone she had was so high like man, there was nothing else that could state about this accusation and even called woman who was born with high testosterone levels.
It is difficult to be able to confirm everything more clearly and last year Imane Khelif when she participated in the 2023 World Boxing Championship was banned from fighting in the final and that was all because of the provisions and regulations of the International Boxing Association (IBA).
But for the 2024 Olympics she became one of the legitimate boxers and could continue her struggle to win the gold medal, maybe for some championships in the international boxing association she will get ban like last year.
I don't know what really happened but if it is proven, the certainty of whether she is real woman or transgender will definitely be known sooner or later in the future.

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Quote from: Dave1 on August 01, 2024, 04:08:11 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 01, 2024, 01:01:48 AM

Quote from: Jating on July 31, 2024, 04:08:56 AM

In other news, here are the Ring Magazine's pound for pound list:

1️⃣🇺🇦 Oleksandr Usyk
2️⃣🇯🇵 Naoya Inoue
3️⃣🇺🇸 Terence Crawford
4️⃣🇲🇽 Canelo Alvarez
5️⃣🇺🇸 Jesse 'Bam' Rodriguez
6️⃣🇷🇺 Artur Beterbiev
7️⃣🇷🇺 Dmitry Bivol
8️⃣🇺🇸 Gervonta Davis
9️⃣🇯🇵 Junto Nakatani
🔟🇺🇸 Devin Haney

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Do you agree on the list? Spence was out, then Haney getting in the list as rank 10th.

Jesse Bam Rodriguez has already surpassed Tank Davis at only 24 years old. It is very impressive what he has accomplished in his young career. Canelo still being in the top 5 is a bit generous. Canelo peaked when he became undisputed champion against Plant in 2021. Since then, it’s been a loss to Bivol and cherry picked opponents like Ryder, Charlo and a very old GGG. He gets credit for his accomplishments in the past, but he cannot live off that forever. I consider Bivol and Beterbiev to be better fighters at this moment but due to inactivity we have not seen their full potential.

I guess they still given preferential treatment to Canelo as this point in time. He had decline already and as you have said, cherry picking his fight after his lost to Bivol. I like Bam Rodriguez and it seems to be that his could be the one to break the monopoly of Japanese fighters in the lower rank right now.

As for Haney, yes, he could not be in the top 10. But it seems that we have the weakest of the champions right now, they don't even include 140 lbs like Teo Lopez or even Pitbull Cruz to represent that weight class.

Canelo is more for the money, he's taking his time knowing that he's no longer on his prime so cherry picking his next opponents just to secure decent profits, though he still got that fame especialy from those who organize this kind of listing, but in terms of capabilities he might lose if he will take the challenge from a fighter who can compete the he did, after that fight against Bivol when he see that his tactics is no longer effective he just quitely observing and waiting for good offer with secure benefits.

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I don't know if it has much to do with the topic of boxing but it's more Olympic but I find what happened with the Algerian athlete really in bad taste and I think that my bet fell through precisely because she didn't want to fight, I don't know if I The choice of retiring seems very right

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I haven't really followed the boxing fights in the Olympics, but I read there are boxers in the women's division complaining about the organizers allowing a transgender to participate, and they are dominating now. Does that issue fall into that category?

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I don't know if it has much to do with the topic of boxing but it's more Olympic but I find what happened with the Algerian athlete really in bad taste and I think that my bet fell through precisely because she didn't want to fight, I don't know if I The choice of retiring seems very right

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 01, 2024, 12:35:34 AM

@Kemarit. Agreed! My list would be Usyk, Crawford then Inoue on the 3rd slot. However, Inoue has a very good chance to become no.1 within 4 years if he chooses the correct opponents. He cannot do this by choosing opponents similar to TJ Doheny hehehe.

On Haney's loss to King Ry, officially this has become a no contest because of King Ry's alleged use of ostarine. According to uncle Dana of the UFC, Ryan will not be found guilty if it was his legal team that represented Ryan. In the interview, uncle Dana was very much certain it was from contaminated supplements.

Inoue has a clear path to become number 1, he had clean up the bantam and super bantamweight already. And if goes up to featherweight and win undisputed that will be the first time that we will see a fighter in modern belt era to do that.

Crawford though will be ahead of him again at he will go and fight Madrimov and chances are very high that he will win a new belt at a new division. But going undisputed? I don't think that Crawford has enough time though, he might be looking for many fights after his win against Madrimov and no longer looking for just belts as his legacy is already cemented.

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