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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 09:49:18 PM

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He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

Yes, all of that must be done because now for the new division will make him fight with boxers he has never faced before, there will be many challenges that must be faced and if he can really prepare himself well I sure Benavidez can be great fighter here.
Several fights have been prepared and we will see them soon, I just hope that all of Benavidez fights can be completed well and win as his fans also want, Benavidez will be one of the best fighters in this division for the future.
In an effort to meet Canelo, hopefully there will be an opportunity to be realized, if these two fighters really meet then of course this will be very spectacular title fight and big fight.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 05, 2024, 09:41:07 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 05, 2024, 03:44:23 AM

I think he had adapted already to 175 lbs, but as we have seen his performance though is in question. But as per that link posted, when they interview his father he had injured his hands in that fight.

And as far as adaption goes, he survived and win that fight, and one thing that goes with him is that he is still very young and so his ceiling is limitless for now. And as Light Heavy is also filled with monsters like him and powerful boxers, it's really gets exciting to see them, like they have their own version of the Fab 4, like in the 135 lbs before. So very bright future for him and hopefully that broken or brittle hands will not be a problem for him in the future.

Just need to take time healing his hands while waiting for his term, like what mentioned there are many big names in this division and giving an opportunity to fight against one will surely a big break for him, he needed to make sure that very preparation will be taken seriously as the fight might become a big break for him to reached the top, though most of the time it will be a rough road to take and not all can break that wall and start to shine.

Speaking of hand injuries, it is also reported that Shakur Stevenson did break his knuckle and did go under the knife for a quick surgery and his fight with Cordina is not cancelled. So it's obvious that the hands are the first one to get injured for this top level boxers and hopefully they can recover very fast.

Quote from: Fredomago on September 05, 2024, 09:41:07 AM

It's more on determination and I like that observation, he's still young and very capable to improve his skills since he's already on the level where champs will meet on the top.

That's one advantage of being young, their body tends to heal very quick. And since Benavidez doesn't have a schedule fight, then it's good for him to rest till next year. But for sure he will be tuning in on the Beterbiev vs Bivol fight as he says that he will challenge the winner.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 09:49:18 PM

He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

Benavidez has held the interim title for over two years now. If Canelo has not decided to face him in all that time, I don’t see why he would do it now. Benavidez was less experienced back then and Canelo would have been a heavy favorite to win. Today, Canelo appears to be in decline and Benavidez is a lot more dangerous of an opponent. Canelo is no longer willing to take risks and would rather fight Charlo and Berlanga for easy money.

Canelo has been always a double edge when it comes to his standard. That time Benavidez is too young or doesn't have the experience and he has to build his resume face, plus he was caught with illegal drugs as well in his system, so Canelo doesn't want to fight him.

But then later on his career, he cherry picks opponents, Charlo as career 154 lbs who has to move up 2 divisions. And then Munguia a Mexican, but doesn't have the experience and then Berlanga, a good fighter, good boxer in paper, but still the same with Munguia, doesn't possesses the tools to beat this version of Canelo as he is too notice.

And Canelo will face Benavidez for at least $200 million as per report.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 09, 2024, 07:52:17 AM

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 09:49:18 PM

He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

Benavidez has held the interim title for over two years now. If Canelo has not decided to face him in all that time, I don’t see why he would do it now. Benavidez was less experienced back then and Canelo would have been a heavy favorite to win. Today, Canelo appears to be in decline and Benavidez is a lot more dangerous of an opponent. Canelo is no longer willing to take risks and would rather fight Charlo and Berlanga for easy money.

I agree to that, Canelo is more on money as he knows that his no longer on his peak and taking that risk fighting a challenger with a decent chance of beating him might ruined his plans in making more money while he still has that charisma on both promoters and fans, just need for Benavidez to keep improving and wait for his time, I mean for another champ to give him that chance, maybe whoever wins from Bivol and Beterbiev.

They might not want to admit it, but we have seen that Canelo is declining, starting from his John Ryder fight. That's why he chooses boxers that he can easily defeat. But they could deceived fans because his opponents seems to be good in paper. But hardcore fans knows what Canelo is doing here.

So money first for him, like Floyd when he was about to go out as well. And he is signing like 2-3 fights as well on whoever he wants to like Matchroom's Eddie Hearn. However, I do not see Canelo having to get the money from the Saudi's because him and HE Turki Alalshikh as somewhat in a disagreement.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 09, 2024, 07:52:17 AM

I agree to that, Canelo is more on money as he knows that his no longer on his peak and taking that risk fighting a challenger with a decent chance of beating him might ruined his plans in making more money while he still has that charisma on both promoters and fans, just need for Benavidez to keep improving and wait for his time, I mean for another champ to give him that chance, maybe whoever wins from Bivol and Beterbiev.

He wouldn't fight either one of them. Just imagine, if Benavidez wins, it means he's better than Bivol, and Canelo wouldn't want that since he already lost to Bivol in their previous fight. Even more so if Bivol wins again. So, we shouldn't expect it to happen. Canelo seems more focused on easy fights for the money now and probably doesn't want to risk losing again after what happened with Bivol.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 05, 2024, 06:17:44 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 09:49:18 PM

He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

Benavidez has held the interim title for over two years now. If Canelo has not decided to face him in all that time, I don’t see why he would do it now. Benavidez was less experienced back then and Canelo would have been a heavy favorite to win. Today, Canelo appears to be in decline and Benavidez is a lot more dangerous of an opponent. Canelo is no longer willing to take risks and would rather fight Charlo and Berlanga for easy money.

I agree to that, Canelo is more on money as he knows that his no longer on his peak and taking that risk fighting a challenger with a decent chance of beating him might ruined his plans in making more money while he still has that charisma on both promoters and fans, just need for Benavidez to keep improving and wait for his time, I mean for another champ to give him that chance, maybe whoever wins from Bivol and Beterbiev.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 09:49:18 PM

He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

Benavidez has held the interim title for over two years now. If Canelo has not decided to face him in all that time, I don’t see why he would do it now. Benavidez was less experienced back then and Canelo would have been a heavy favorite to win. Today, Canelo appears to be in decline and Benavidez is a lot more dangerous of an opponent. Canelo is no longer willing to take risks and would rather fight Charlo and Berlanga for easy money.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 05, 2024, 09:41:07 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 05, 2024, 03:44:23 AM

I think he had adapted already to 175 lbs, but as we have seen his performance though is in question. But as per that link posted, when they interview his father he had injured his hands in that fight.

And as far as adaption goes, he survived and win that fight, and one thing that goes with him is that he is still very young and so his ceiling is limitless for now. And as Light Heavy is also filled with monsters like him and powerful boxers, it's really gets exciting to see them, like they have their own version of the Fab 4, like in the 135 lbs before. So very bright future for him and hopefully that broken or brittle hands will not be a problem for him in the future.

Just need to take time healing his hands while waiting for his term, like what mentioned there are many big names in this division and giving an opportunity to fight against one will surely a big break for him, he needed to make sure that very preparation will be taken seriously as the fight might become a big break for him to reached the top, though most of the time it will be a rough road to take and not all can break that wall and start to shine.

It's more on determination and I like that observation, he's still young and very capable to improve his skills since he's already on the level where champs will meet on the top.

It's going to be a big factor for him, there are a lot of boxers that is used to have a brittle hand, take for example Floyd Mayweather. If my memory serves me right, he has history of injuring his hands and prior to fighting, he will have someone inject some sort of medicine to numb the pain and it's totally legal or at least when he fought in his native Las Vegas.

So that hand injury could be a bad sign for David Benavidez as he is going up in weight and potentially fighting boxers that have a solid and good chin. And so he will go and punch so hard that he might re-injured it again and again as it will be brittle due to the wear and tear.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 05, 2024, 03:44:23 AM

I think he had adapted already to 175 lbs, but as we have seen his performance though is in question. But as per that link posted, when they interview his father he had injured his hands in that fight.

And as far as adaption goes, he survived and win that fight, and one thing that goes with him is that he is still very young and so his ceiling is limitless for now. And as Light Heavy is also filled with monsters like him and powerful boxers, it's really gets exciting to see them, like they have their own version of the Fab 4, like in the 135 lbs before. So very bright future for him and hopefully that broken or brittle hands will not be a problem for him in the future.

Just need to take time healing his hands while waiting for his term, like what mentioned there are many big names in this division and giving an opportunity to fight against one will surely a big break for him, he needed to make sure that very preparation will be taken seriously as the fight might become a big break for him to reached the top, though most of the time it will be a rough road to take and not all can break that wall and start to shine.

It's more on determination and I like that observation, he's still young and very capable to improve his skills since he's already on the level where champs will meet on the top.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 04, 2024, 09:49:18 PM

Quote from: Hirose UK on September 04, 2024, 09:13:34 PM

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 02, 2024, 05:11:32 AM

^^ I'm also not aware that David Benavidez is injured in his fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk and it's obvious that his performance has affected us because we are not that impressed on him and even says that he looks regular at 175 lbs.

But what if he is not injured, can he really score a knockout or shows as a good performance? It's done already, we can't comment on that, but it seems that there goal right now is to fight in 175 lbs and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

Hopefully a healthy Benavidez won't upset the fans once he face real champ in this division, we've seen Bivol and Beterbiev fought they both heavy punchers and in terms of speed they've got that reached where they can really create that combo which can bring down opponent, though boxing always bring surprises and upset who knows what will be the fate of him (Benavidez) once he fight whoever wins or whoever camps that will negotiate and sign contract against him.

I think he will still be fine and for division that currently only needs conditioning to adapt to fight, Benavidez must start everything more carefully considering this is division filled with many monsters.
But actually Benavidez can perform well when he is in the super middleweight class and of course there he is fighter who has had many wins until he finally decided to move up and get bigger achievements, but there are many obstacles that must be faced and one of them is the fighters in the light heavyweight class.
There are two fights that we can actually see in the future, namely the fight between Benavidez vs David Morrell or Benavidez against Canelo Alvarez, both are quite tough fighters and could possibly be good fight if everything can happen.

He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

I think he had adapted already to 175 lbs, but as we have seen his performance though is in question. But as per that link posted, when they interview his father he had injured his hands in that fight.

And as far as adaption goes, he survived and win that fight, and one thing that goes with him is that he is still very young and so his ceiling is limitless for now. And as Light Heavy is also filled with monsters like him and powerful boxers, it's really gets exciting to see them, like they have their own version of the Fab 4, like in the 135 lbs before. So very bright future for him and hopefully that broken or brittle hands will not be a problem for him in the future.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on September 04, 2024, 09:13:34 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 07:20:21 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 02, 2024, 05:11:32 AM

^^ I'm also not aware that David Benavidez is injured in his fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk and it's obvious that his performance has affected us because we are not that impressed on him and even says that he looks regular at 175 lbs.

But what if he is not injured, can he really score a knockout or shows as a good performance? It's done already, we can't comment on that, but it seems that there goal right now is to fight in 175 lbs and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

Hopefully a healthy Benavidez won't upset the fans once he face real champ in this division, we've seen Bivol and Beterbiev fought they both heavy punchers and in terms of speed they've got that reached where they can really create that combo which can bring down opponent, though boxing always bring surprises and upset who knows what will be the fate of him (Benavidez) once he fight whoever wins or whoever camps that will negotiate and sign contract against him.

I think he will still be fine and for division that currently only needs conditioning to adapt to fight, Benavidez must start everything more carefully considering this is division filled with many monsters.
But actually Benavidez can perform well when he is in the super middleweight class and of course there he is fighter who has had many wins until he finally decided to move up and get bigger achievements, but there are many obstacles that must be faced and one of them is the fighters in the light heavyweight class.
There are two fights that we can actually see in the future, namely the fight between Benavidez vs David Morrell or Benavidez against Canelo Alvarez, both are quite tough fighters and could possibly be good fight if everything can happen.

He needs to adopt as moving up means many more challenges before achieving his goals, he's still young and capable to adjust when it's needed, once an opportunity open for him then he needs to grab and make sure to showcase his skills and talents, not just to win the fight but also wins the fans, I like to see if that deal against Canelo will materialize knowing that it's been awhile his name was been mentioned but still no confirmation about the possible fight to happen.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 07:20:21 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 02, 2024, 05:11:32 AM

^^ I'm also not aware that David Benavidez is injured in his fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk and it's obvious that his performance has affected us because we are not that impressed on him and even says that he looks regular at 175 lbs.

But what if he is not injured, can he really score a knockout or shows as a good performance? It's done already, we can't comment on that, but it seems that there goal right now is to fight in 175 lbs and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

Hopefully a healthy Benavidez won't upset the fans once he face real champ in this division, we've seen Bivol and Beterbiev fought they both heavy punchers and in terms of speed they've got that reached where they can really create that combo which can bring down opponent, though boxing always bring surprises and upset who knows what will be the fate of him (Benavidez) once he fight whoever wins or whoever camps that will negotiate and sign contract against him.

I think he will still be fine and for division that currently only needs conditioning to adapt to fight, Benavidez must start everything more carefully considering this is division filled with many monsters.
But actually Benavidez can perform well when he is in the super middleweight class and of course there he is fighter who has had many wins until he finally decided to move up and get bigger achievements, but there are many obstacles that must be faced and one of them is the fighters in the light heavyweight class.
There are two fights that we can actually see in the future, namely the fight between Benavidez vs David Morrell or Benavidez against Canelo Alvarez, both are quite tough fighters and could possibly be good fight if everything can happen.

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Quote from: Fredomago on September 03, 2024, 07:20:21 AM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 02, 2024, 05:11:32 AM

^^ I'm also not aware that David Benavidez is injured in his fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk and it's obvious that his performance has affected us because we are not that impressed on him and even says that he looks regular at 175 lbs.

But what if he is not injured, can he really score a knockout or shows as a good performance? It's done already, we can't comment on that, but it seems that there goal right now is to fight in 175 lbs and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

Hopefully a healthy Benavidez won't upset the fans once he face real champ in this division, we've seen Bivol and Beterbiev fought they both heavy punchers and in terms of speed they've got that reached where they can really create that combo which can bring down opponent, though boxing always bring surprises and upset who knows what will be the fate of him (Benavidez) once he fight whoever wins or whoever camps that will negotiate and sign contract against him.

Oh yes, it will be a real fight either one of them will be a big challenge for Benavidez, regardless of his injury against Gvozdyk, we should give the big guy a big tap on his shoulder as he give everything against David, and he almost pull a upset. But I guess Benavidez with his injured hands try to fight that out and thinking that he needs to win this one to open doors to challenge the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

And it's just one month before the Bivol vs Beterbiev, and it's undercard fight, so for sure everyone is very excited for this event. LHW is going to be lit because Berlanga has also plans to move up in weight as he is also a big guy and can't stay at 168 lbs for long.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on September 02, 2024, 05:11:32 AM

^^ I'm also not aware that David Benavidez is injured in his fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk and it's obvious that his performance has affected us because we are not that impressed on him and even says that he looks regular at 175 lbs.

But what if he is not injured, can he really score a knockout or shows as a good performance? It's done already, we can't comment on that, but it seems that there goal right now is to fight in 175 lbs and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

Hopefully a healthy Benavidez won't upset the fans once he face real champ in this division, we've seen Bivol and Beterbiev fought they both heavy punchers and in terms of speed they've got that reached where they can really create that combo which can bring down opponent, though boxing always bring surprises and upset who knows what will be the fate of him (Benavidez) once he fight whoever wins or whoever camps that will negotiate and sign contract against him.

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^^ I'm also not aware that David Benavidez is injured in his fight against Oleksandr Gvozdyk and it's obvious that his performance has affected us because we are not that impressed on him and even says that he looks regular at 175 lbs.

But what if he is not injured, can he really score a knockout or shows as a good performance? It's done already, we can't comment on that, but it seems that there goal right now is to fight in 175 lbs and wait for the winner of Bivol vs Beterbiev.

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We have a good interview on Jose Benavidez Sr, David's father,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJyVH5uv978

And then we commented on David having a poor performance on his last fight at 175 lbs against Oleksandr Gvozdyk. He was not able to knockout Gvozdyk, but Sr says that David had injured both of his hands in that fight.

They are still hoping though that Canelo is going to give them a shot after his fight with Berlanga.

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Good news for boxing fans, WBO orders Terence Crawford to face Sebastian Fundora.

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The World Boxing Organization on Wednesday ordered World Boxing Association belt holder Crawford (41-0, 31 KOs) to meet Fundora (21-1-1, 13 KOs), declaring that the sides have 30 days to strike an agreement or the bout will be sent to purse bid.

And with that we will see the WBO having just one champion at the end of the day as Crawford holds the interim belt, while Fundora is the full champ having beaten Tim Tszyu in a bloody fight.

So it's good to see that at least boxing organization are forcing their champion/s to fight each other. And after much talk of a Canelo Alvarez vs Bud Crawford, I don't think that is it going to happen. Crawford might be busy unifying the super welterweight division and there are a lot of great fighters too at 154 lbs right now.

Sooner or later, this organisations will have to enforce their own rules so in this case, it's really a good fight so why delayed it? And whoever wins in the bid, for sure will be happy to set up the fight because it could be one of the best in this super welterweight.

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Who do you think will be the favorite going into this fight?

Crawford, regardless of the advantage of Fundora in terms of his height and reach and how he wins the belt, oddmakers might take that into account but we all know that Crawford hasn't lost and plus his skills makes him the favorite, in my opinion.

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Quote from: Kemarit on August 30, 2024, 04:51:02 PM

Good news for boxing fans, WBO orders Terence Crawford to face Sebastian Fundora.

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The World Boxing Organization on Wednesday ordered World Boxing Association belt holder Crawford (41-0, 31 KOs) to meet Fundora (21-1-1, 13 KOs), declaring that the sides have 30 days to strike an agreement or the bout will be sent to purse bid.

And with that we will see the WBO having just one champion at the end of the day as Crawford holds the interim belt, while Fundora is the full champ having beaten Tim Tszyu in a bloody fight.

So it's good to see that at least boxing organization are forcing their champion/s to fight each other. And after much talk of a Canelo Alvarez vs Bud Crawford, I don't think that is it going to happen. Crawford might be busy unifying the super welterweight division and there are a lot of great fighters too at 154 lbs right now.

Who do you think will be the favorite going into this fight?

Of course, when we see 2 great boxers it will always be good for the boxing fans. And I think this is to be anticipated, both are champions but there should only be one standing champion and so they will have to fight this one out. I think it will be Crawford who is going to be the favorite here, nevertheless, it will be a challenge for Bud to see how he is going to adjust with the height and length advantage of Fundora. We have seen Tim struggled and then lost his belt against Sebastian. But we all know how tactical boxer is Bud is. So maybe he will figure it out along the fight and then readjust as necessary. As for fighting Canelo, it's hard seeing Bud at 168 lbs and then maintain his power or his quickness and it will be a mismatch. Although it's going to be a career payday for him but most likely he will take it maybe as his last fight before retiring.

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Good news for boxing fans, WBO orders Terence Crawford to face Sebastian Fundora.

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The World Boxing Organization on Wednesday ordered World Boxing Association belt holder Crawford (41-0, 31 KOs) to meet Fundora (21-1-1, 13 KOs), declaring that the sides have 30 days to strike an agreement or the bout will be sent to purse bid.

And with that we will see the WBO having just one champion at the end of the day as Crawford holds the interim belt, while Fundora is the full champ having beaten Tim Tszyu in a bloody fight.

So it's good to see that at least boxing organization are forcing their champion/s to fight each other. And after much talk of a Canelo Alvarez vs Bud Crawford, I don't think that is it going to happen. Crawford might be busy unifying the super welterweight division and there are a lot of great fighters too at 154 lbs right now.

Who do you think will be the favorite going into this fight?

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Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

That's how influential Floyd is, but since it’s just an exhibition fight, so we know who would win and that he could dictate the outcome. It’s amazing that Floyd doesn't want to lose, even after retirement, but I don't understand why people still watch his exhibition fights when he has shown he change the rules on his favor, still a cheater even after his pro.

Floyd Mayweather is world boxing champion and has record of 50 undefeated fights and he has power in exhibition fights, it is natural that Floyd can do anything to achieve victory even in the change of referees.
But this is ridiculous, fight like this is only for the benefit of getting satisfaction and some money so there is nothing interesting that we can really get, maybe some people still consider this fight as one of the entertainment events.
Previously they fought and ended in big fight or chaos because of mocking each other, and now they meet again because of Floyd desire for rematch.
But after everything is over we can see that Floyd seems quite happy with the results that he even said thank because Gotti wanted to do it for the second time.

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