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Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2024, 02:59:08 AM

Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

Interesting case and controversy to it, indeed Grin

It happens sometimes..

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Quote from: Questat on August 27, 2024, 07:40:30 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2024, 02:59:08 AM

Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

That's how influential Floyd is, but since it’s just an exhibition fight, so we know who would win and that he could dictate the outcome. It’s amazing that Floyd doesn't want to lose, even after retirement, but I don't understand why people still watch his exhibition fights when he has shown he change the rules on his favor, still a cheater even after his pro.

He is not even in his best shape and sure the age is showing already even from the great Floyd Mayweather. But yeah, he can do anything but this could be the first time that we have seen this kind of request in the middle of the fight to change the referee because the boxers doesn't want his decision.

And it just shows that Floyd has the control of the fight and the promotion itself that's why he can do that. But we will still have to remember that this is just a exhibition fight and most likely there is no governing boxing body who facilitates this one.

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Quote from: Questat on August 27, 2024, 07:40:30 AM

Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2024, 02:59:08 AM

Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

That's how influential Floyd is, but since it’s just an exhibition fight, so we know who would win and that he could dictate the outcome. It’s amazing that Floyd doesn't want to lose, even after retirement, but I don't understand why people still watch his exhibition fights when he has shown he change the rules on his favor, still a cheater even after his pro.

I agree with your all points but we still have too many around us those love to watch cheaters while they are having their strong influence and never want to lose this exhibition match ended in draw as organizers feeling ok because they never want again another widespread riots across the stadium as we have in last summer during these fighters match.

Last time we have this fight in Miami but now this time we have this in Mexico where things were well-balanced for the boxers Floyd Mayweather is having a long tour around the globe for his exhibitions games which will create good entertainment for his fans.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2024, 02:59:08 AM

Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

That's how influential Floyd is, but since it’s just an exhibition fight, so we know who would win and that he could dictate the outcome. It’s amazing that Floyd doesn't want to lose, even after retirement, but I don't understand why people still watch his exhibition fights when he has shown he change the rules on his favor, still a cheater even after his pro.

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Quote from: OgNasty on August 25, 2024, 02:59:08 AM

Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

And that's only in Floyd's fight, LOL. But yeah, I'm not siding with anyone, but it was a hook that Floyd throws and unfortunately it hit Gotti on the side of the head and then the controversy started and I thought that there will be another brawl between the two camps.

Although it was reported that the referee also deducted a point when he officiates the Tommy Fury and Jake Paul fight.

And since this fight is in Mexico, legendary Julio Cezar Chaver Sr was there to see the fight but Floyd said that he will not fight Sr because he is too old and it will not be good on him fighting the old man.

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Floyd Mayweather fired the referee in the middle of his boxing match tonight. He hit his opponent with a hook that the ref said landed on the back of his opponent’s head. It was a bad call and Floyd started complaining immediately and within a minute or two they had a new ref stepping in to finish the fight. Amazing…

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 20, 2024, 08:55:41 PM

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 14, 2024, 01:13:45 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on August 13, 2024, 10:28:27 PM

But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.

It appears that the dreams of Errol Spence of being a champion in the super welterweight division will be broken if Bud Crawford will unify this weight division and become the king of super welterweight hehehehe.

In any case, I wish Bud Crawford will not yet leave welterweight because there is a boxer there that many fans would like to witness who is the real king. This boxer is Boots Ennis. He has a chance to win against Bud, I reckon.

He can still win belt at super welterweight, but if we talk unification, he might have to face Bud Crawford again. The thing though is that Bud didn't look impressive at his first fight at 154 lbs and we say that old age might have been knocking on him.

It seems that Bud will still at super welterweight now, no way he will go down to 147 lbs as there are no money fights. At this point in time, he could be like Canelo, looking for the biggest payday in his every fight moving forward before they retire.

It might also be because Bud did not very much need to perform on a high level because of the opponent or he might need more tune up fights to adjust on this new weight division. We can be very much certain his next fights in super welterweight will be very good hehehe. I reckon it might be better viewing for the fans if Errol Spence also gets a championship with Bud and repeat the same storyline which occurred on welterweight hehehehe.

Are you saying that Bud didn't train or took Bohachuk very lightly? If that is the case, then that is bad for him to have that kind of mentality to overestimate an opponent specially he is going up in weight here.

So let's see who will be his next fight, this division is laden with talents, so again, every fight here, he should be training with 100% focus otherwise, he might suffer his first loss and then his stock going down because of that.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 20, 2024, 05:17:53 AM

Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 19, 2024, 11:46:20 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 14, 2024, 01:13:45 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on August 13, 2024, 10:28:27 PM

But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.

It appears that the dreams of Errol Spence of being a champion in the super welterweight division will be broken if Bud Crawford will unify this weight division and become the king of super welterweight hehehehe.

In any case, I wish Bud Crawford will not yet leave welterweight because there is a boxer there that many fans would like to witness who is the real king. This boxer is Boots Ennis. He has a chance to win against Bud, I reckon.

He can still win belt at super welterweight, but if we talk unification, he might have to face Bud Crawford again. The thing though is that Bud didn't look impressive at his first fight at 154 lbs and we say that old age might have been knocking on him.

It seems that Bud will still at super welterweight now, no way he will go down to 147 lbs as there are no money fights. At this point in time, he could be like Canelo, looking for the biggest payday in his every fight moving forward before they retire.

It might also be because Bud did not very much need to perform on a high level because of the opponent or he might need more tune up fights to adjust on this new weight division. We can be very much certain his next fights in super welterweight will be very good hehehe. I reckon it might be better viewing for the fans if Errol Spence also gets a championship with Bud and repeat the same storyline which occurred on welterweight hehehehe.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 19, 2024, 11:46:20 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 14, 2024, 01:13:45 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on August 13, 2024, 10:28:27 PM

But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.

It appears that the dreams of Errol Spence of being a champion in the super welterweight division will be broken if Bud Crawford will unify this weight division and become the king of super welterweight hehehehe.

In any case, I wish Bud Crawford will not yet leave welterweight because there is a boxer there that many fans would like to witness who is the real king. This boxer is Boots Ennis. He has a chance to win against Bud, I reckon.

I do think that Boots Ennis and Errol Spence will not be meeting Crawford inside the ring at this stage of the latter's career, i mean Crawford is picking money fights as his fights as a professional boxer is numbered due to age factor. There is a great possibility that Crawford will be facing Ortiz next at super welterweight division in Saudi Arabia.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 19, 2024, 11:46:20 PM

Quote from: bisdak40 on August 14, 2024, 01:13:45 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on August 13, 2024, 10:28:27 PM

But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.

It appears that the dreams of Errol Spence of being a champion in the super welterweight division will be broken if Bud Crawford will unify this weight division and become the king of super welterweight hehehehe.

In any case, I wish Bud Crawford will not yet leave welterweight because there is a boxer there that many fans would like to witness who is the real king. This boxer is Boots Ennis. He has a chance to win against Bud, I reckon.

He can still win belt at super welterweight, but if we talk unification, he might have to face Bud Crawford again. The thing though is that Bud didn't look impressive at his first fight at 154 lbs and we say that old age might have been knocking on him.

It seems that Bud will still at super welterweight now, no way he will go down to 147 lbs as there are no money fights. At this point in time, he could be like Canelo, looking for the biggest payday in his every fight moving forward before they retire.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on August 14, 2024, 01:13:45 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on August 13, 2024, 10:28:27 PM

But I guess there is no hostage of the belt by Crawford although he still holds the next 3 belts. However, with this move, I do not think that Crawford will stay at 147 lbs.

Yeah, Terrence Crawford will be moving up on his next fight against Vergil Ortiz, at least that is what his excellency Turki Alalshikh had promised that he will make this fight happen. With his years numbered, i do think that Crawford will take this one even though he will be the slight underdog as Ortiz is comfortable fighting in the 154lbs division.

It appears that the dreams of Errol Spence of being a champion in the super welterweight division will be broken if Bud Crawford will unify this weight division and become the king of super welterweight hehehehe.

In any case, I wish Bud Crawford will not yet leave welterweight because there is a boxer there that many fans would like to witness who is the real king. This boxer is Boots Ennis. He has a chance to win against Bud, I reckon.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 18, 2024, 01:52:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2024, 04:35:56 AM

We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.

I do think that is already the mindset of Canelo, at his age and for sure he knows that he is slowing down, although he might not admit it. And with that, why put his body to more damage before he can retire? He can pick fighters that won't beat him period. But if we insert David Benavidez name, Canelo might change his rhythm as he doesn't want to give David his chance as he knows that he could get another losses before he retire. So let's see, he has his two fights every year. And so next year in May we might see him against Mbilli or other fighters not name David Benavidez.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 19, 2024, 08:22:32 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 18, 2024, 01:52:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2024, 04:35:56 AM

We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.

That’s what people are thinking now. If we look at his fights after beating Gennadiy Golovkin in their third fight, none of them have been particularly interesting. Canelo is near retirement and should be seeking serious opponents to challenge his talent, but it seems like he’s just playing it safe, fighting boxers who aren’t even popular in the same division. I’m not sure what his plan is or when he’ll retire, but hopefully, he’ll realize that boxing isn’t just about making money; it’s about building a legacy. So far, he’s not on the right path.

I do agree that maybe father time is calling Canelo and in just a couple of years he might hang up his gloves. And so he is very careful of choosing his opponents to at least preserved the record that he had and doesn't want to have a 3rd lose in his resume.

But before he retire, he should at least give David Benavidez a fight so that the fans will not have that "what if" scenario on our head. Just like the Floyd vs Manny fight, it should have happen years earlier and not that Manny is already a damage good from Marquez and Antonio Margarito (although he won his fight, Manny took significant hit on his body and he confessed to it after that fight.)

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on August 18, 2024, 01:52:34 PM

Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2024, 04:35:56 AM

We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.

That’s what people are thinking now. If we look at his fights after beating Gennadiy Golovkin in their third fight, none of them have been particularly interesting. Canelo is near retirement and should be seeking serious opponents to challenge his talent, but it seems like he’s just playing it safe, fighting boxers who aren’t even popular in the same division. I’m not sure what his plan is or when he’ll retire, but hopefully, he’ll realize that boxing isn’t just about making money; it’s about building a legacy. So far, he’s not on the right path.

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Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2024, 04:35:56 AM

We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

Mbilli is a good prospect but he isn’t ready to face Canelo, but that is how Canelo prefers his opponents because the same can be said about Munguia and Berlanga. If Mbilli is chosen by Canelo, many people will be unsatisfied. With these kinds of opponents, it demonstrates that Canelo is no longer looking for serious challenges and is just content to collect a paycheck. It is a similar strategy as Jake Paul where he is just looking to cash in on his name value.

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Quote from: Viscore on August 18, 2024, 07:25:51 AM

Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2024, 04:35:56 AM

We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

He has an impressive record with 29 wins, 23 of which are by KO, and he is undefeated. I’m not sure if he’s on the same level as Canelo, but I like how Canelo chooses his opponents, especially those who are undefeated but not as popular. He has a knack for tarnishing their perfect records. We’ll see if this fight happens and how the fans react, knowing it’s another relatively unknown boxer that Canelo is going up against after Berlanga.

Another unknown fighter but still can attract fans and viewers to support the fight, It's Canelo so promoters can easily bring his name and create attentions, though still needed to wait for the outcome of Cabelo's schedule fight, after that possible negotiations against the two camps and if there's a good deal in between for sure Canelo will take this and make huge amount of money.

He needs to be wiser as his prime is way near, compensated because of his name and his status from the ring, we don't know how long it will last.

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Quote from: Jating on August 18, 2024, 04:35:56 AM

We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

He has an impressive record with 29 wins, 23 of which are by KO, and he is undefeated. I’m not sure if he’s on the same level as Canelo, but I like how Canelo chooses his opponents, especially those who are undefeated but not as popular. He has a knack for tarnishing their perfect records. We’ll see if this fight happens and how the fans react, knowing it’s another relatively unknown boxer that Canelo is going up against after Berlanga.

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We know that Canelo will have a fight against Berlanga, but there is one boxer as well that has been mentioned maybe to be the next challenger if ever Canelo win against Berlanga in September and that is Christian Mbilli.

He is rated in all of the divisions if I''m not mistaken. I'm trying to hype his name as he won today against a very tough opponent in Sergiy Derevyanchenko. Scores where 100-90, 99-91 and 98-92. And if you watch the fight, it's obvious that Mbili will win but you can't take anything from Sergiy as he fought with a torn biceps. But there are moments though in the fight that Mbili has some illegal blows, rabbit punch and was not deducted points although it might not change the outcome of the fight.

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^^ That has been the practice in boxing though if I'm not mistaken, there are a lot of free tickets being given to the boxers and promoters and they will hand it out to close friends and families. But it doesn't mean that the fight is not successful or if the live gates are really sold out. Even high profile fights like the Crawford vs Spence, there are a lot of tickets that has been given.

For me it's not fair to judge that fight as not sold out or something. Still depends on the money that HE Turki Alalshikh is willing to shell out and win (or lose) at the end of the business day. But I would agree that the tickets given though is very high, it could be just less than 1000. However, it could be that many are really asking for free tickets and so they have to increased the numbers.

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Quote from: Fredomago on August 16, 2024, 06:23:31 AM

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I mean the welterweight should be the center of attention for boxing as it has a solid history before, we have seen great boxers in the welterweight including Manny Pacquiao and Floyd and there were times like Thurman is dominating their division with great names like PR's Garcia, then Porter and then Spence and Crawford. And now who do we have as a champion? Barrios?? Ennis?? Brian Norman??? elevated to WBO full champion.

But now the prime fighters of super welterweight seems to be the new division that is getting the attention of boxing fans. And again, his excellency Turki Alalshikh is trying to bring the best fight in this division and this might be the start that the 154 lbs could be the much talk about weight class and no longer 147 lbs.

And for sure it will attracts the interest of fans and gamblers who loves to see great fights, if both camps agrees then we will see schedules and updates from fighters who will allow fans watching them, his excellency can bring them as money is not a problem and venue can caters big names and for sure behind that there are big names who are also involves in gambling and this kind of setup will bring more interest for sure in this sport.

Speaking of His Excellency, it was reported that the fight between Crawford vs Madrimov was a sell out, and that all tickets has been sold. However, news surface that it's not the case,

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According to a Department of Consumer Affairs and California State Athletic Commission document reviewed by BoxingScene, nearly 4,000 tickets were given away for the blockbuster event, Alalshikh’s first in the United States.

A total of 3,935 tickets to the 21,799-capacity show were categorized as “exempt,” meaning that 18.1 percent of available seats may have been filled but were not purchased. Organizers gave away $500 seats at the highest rate, with 1,116 of those 3,449 available tickets (32.4 percent) going out as freebies.

https://www.boxingscene.com/despite-turki-alalshikhs-claim-aug-3-show-sellout-name-only--185412

So there are lot of tickets that have been given, in other sports it is called complimentary tickets if I'm not mistaken. So this tickets is given to the family of the boxers and whoever they want to give it to.

In any case, this is not the first time though to hear it and won't be the last, although it could mean that the tickets is not totally sold as contrary and maybe it could have been a break-even payout for power broker Turki Alalshikh.

I'm not saying that it was bad promotion or something, but if you are in the business of making money, this does not look very good.

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