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Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

Yes probably the biggest age gap that we will see in boxing, assuming we will count exhibition matches a professional fight. But still though even at 58 years of age, Mike Tyson still have that power because it's raw and God given. So regardless of your age, or any other athletes who have been given such, they can still perform and can still harnessed that power if needed in a situation. So there is still possibility that Mike Tyson if he trains seriously can put a serious hurt on Jake Paul if they fought. We just hope that this will not be stage or what like wrestling and they will really go at it to score a knockout. If that is the case then I will go with Mike Tyson to beat Jake Paul. Not only the age but I think Tyson will be the heaviest here. As far as I know Jake can be as high as Cruiserweight, Mike throughout his career is a Heavyweight although weighs just around 200 lbs during his prime.

So apparently Jake Paul (wannabe boxer slash youtuber) will be fighting Mike Tyson on 20th July.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/68504821

Tyson will be 58 at the date of the fight, Paul is 31 years younger than him (27 y.o). That's a huge age gap (possibly the biggest in boxing history?).
I am not surprised that Mike agreed to the fight, and from Paul's perspective that's also a good choice, as the fight is easy to hype, and if manages to avoid a KO by Tyson, he could then spin it as his success.

Any thoughts on that fight?

Not sure if this is true or not, but it's business for PBC, as much as we hear that he no longer works with them. But who knows, they are willing to take him back as there are a lot of upside of Canelo being at the side of PBC although Canelo and his team can't discount the fact that David Benavidez name will come into discussion for PBC for his next fight.

But it seems that it will be Munguia next for Canelo as they have settled the networks that will cover for this fight as GBP has it's own network affiliations. It's true about WBC, then go to social media saying that they are like mandating Canelo to fight David Benavidez. But now we see that it's not true as Canelo chooses Munguia.

I'm also confused as we thought that he bolted out of PBC and go to Eddie Hearn again for a Berlanga fight? But it seems that Munguia a Mexican is his next opponent? What happen to the excuse that he doesn't want to fight another Mexican? And then PBC negotiating with Oscar's Golden Boy? I know that could have collaborated fight before, but this is Canelo a former GB fighter. Oh well, it's all business and this people are here to make money and take their personal issues at the side.

I will wait for the official announcement though, so far there is none in social media.

Won't believed it until either side have the final and official announcement as who Canelo is going to fight next this May.

So Canelo is staying with PBC for his next fight? Mungia is not an easy fight for Canelo at this stage of his career. Mungia is young, huge and is heavy handed. But this is a little weird since Mungia is with GBP who is partnered with DAZN. The last time Mungia was the WBC mandatory of Jermell Charlo but it did not materialized after both PBC and DAZN did not come up with an agreement and corrupt WBC did not issue a purse bid.

Nontheless, at least PBC can still ride Canelo's popularity especially when it has a new network partner which is something new for the fight fans.

Source: https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/canelo-vs-munguia-back-on-pbc-and-amazon-prime-resume-talks/275131

This is really confusing. Everywhere I am watching the news of Canelo vs Munguia and everywhere I am watching that this fight is going to happen.

For now, nobody is saying that this fight is not going to happen.

However, right now it seems like everyone is trying to get views and making the most out of this. I am still not sure 100% about if this fight is actually going to happen or not. But if this happens, Canelo is going to be in danger. I think he is genuinely still trying to avoid Munguia because he knows he has an easier fight and it will be better for him to go there and get the win.

The latest development in the Canelo Alvarez soap opera is that he will remain with PBC for at least one more fight which is expected to be against Jaime Munguia. The question now is whether Canelo has come to his senses and will agree to a Benavidez fight in September or did PBC make some concessions which allow Canelo to keep choosing easier competition?

What is clear is that Benavidez will fight Gvozdyk and of course Canelo will not fight Benavidez this year even though many people really want their fight.
Previously, it was reported that Canelo had fight on May 4 and the most likely opponent was Jermall Charlo, so there was decision for the fight between Benavidez and Gvozdyk because the Canelo vs Benavidez fight would not happen.
But yesterday I received some news that was being discussed by many boxing fans in the area where I live, they were talking about Canelo choosing Jaime Munguia as his opponent on May 4.
Moreover, last year Canelo also managed to beat Charlo with unanimous decision from the referee, there is no definite clarity regarding this, but what is clear is that Canelo is trying to maintain what he has so that it is not taken by another fighter who could beat him.
I myself was quite surprised by the news of discussions about Canelo choice of opponent because Jaime Munguia has an undefeated title with 43 wins, 0 losses and 34 by knockout.
Jaime Munguia is great boxer and his amazing fight was when he defeated Sergiy Derevyanchenko and John Ryder at super middleweight.

Maybe they are different. Manny started off his career without a fear of losing and was able to make history in boxing, becoming an 8th division world champion. That happened because he didn't want to stop pushing himself to the limit, even trying to beat bigger guys. However, later on, he realized his weight limit after a victory against Margarito.


He could have taken an easier route, such as a rematch with Bivol, but it seems he is not interested in giving it another try against the boxer that defeated him. I believe Benavidez is quite more dangerous than Bivol, so he will also say no to that obviously. Or perhaps, he is just waiting for the right timing, which I'm not certain about because he is not getting any younger so he should be taking fights to add to his legacy before retirement.

I don't think boxers will be contented with their performance or legacy. We have seen Manny for instance, time and time again comeback to box even after he losses to Marquez and Floyd and still chooses risk risk fighters.

If Canelo doesn't want to take risk anymore at this point in his career, then his legacy will not be cemented if he duck Benavidez or didn't give Bivol a rematch and avenge his lost to him. But that's what his call, and I'm sure that the people around him are advising him to do that, chooses less risk but in the end, he will be judge when he retires.

Canelo seems to me to be an excellent boxer with everything to do well, for me he is one of the greatest in the world, but considering that things for some boxers are difficult, I don't know if he can hold his own against a boxer like Bivol, Bivol is A Russian who does not waste time, especially for things that have to do with the belts, is one of those who is always going to look for anything, a trophy in particular, and Canelo if he is offering him this fight, well this revenge, I don't know, but I think he's still not at the level of a Bivol , which is why he insists and Insists, this is good in the long term if Vivol beats him, because it shows that they don't have any problems with rematches, but like him before He had said that he did not give importance to Canelo, that he did not bring good things for his career because he had seen it that way, it is something that I still do not understand, however Canelo will not remain calm until he achieves his goal.

The thing about Benavidez is interesting because he needs to win no matter what, because things can turn out very well and encouraging for them, but what I most want to see is a Bivol fighting Canelo.

For me the best and most interesting fight will be that one, boxing has hardly had much action with the most famous boxers, but I think Canelo draws a lot of attention for the simple fact of always using his style of attracting attention to Hey, it's something he can't help, he's not calm even on social media, he's always involved in something, I remember what happened to Messi and from there I understood that what he's looking for is fame , that they're not considering things that more have to be special events, that's why he has insisted so much with the Bivol thing that if it is given to him, it's wrong, that's having a lot of willingness for things, this boxer is very famous and he Achieves what he sets out to do, that's how it is.

Maybe he is already content with his achievements now, and that is his legacy. For now, he doesn't want to take higher risks; he's done with that aspect. What he wants is just to cherry-pick and make money consistently. I know fans are upset as things aren't going the way we'd like for him, but, after all, this is business.


And that will make Canelo slowly fade from the spotlight. Champions are seeking to fight for other champions, even moving up to have a better challenge. Unfortunately, Canelo has stopped challenging himself, especially after his loss to Bivol.

It will be a bad strategy if Canelo is reserving everything for a Bivol rematch. He is not getting any younger, and he should have rematch Bivol early, instead of going into John Ryder and Charlo fight, it will not add anything to his legacy (if he is still after it).

Beterbiev vs Benavidez could also be an intriguing match up. Both have power but Benavidez a bit taller and so we will see how Beterbiev can counter that height and reach advantage. But we will see, LHW division is looking to be very interesting division as Benavidez is moving up to challenge the two Russians.

On David Benavidez, I very much agree and it will not be very shocking if this was his real roadmap to have a fight against Canelo. I wish it will be Bivol who gets the victory on his next fight then it will be Bivol vs. Benvidez and I also wish the victory will go to Benavidez. This will be a checkmate on Canelo. I speculate the reason why he will not fight the greatest challengers in super middleweight is because he is saving everything for a rematch vs. Bivol.

^^ Two fighters have been mentioned, earlier it was Charlo, but when Charlo get out of PBC, it's not Berlanga and Munguia. And I think it both of those fights, this May and September, Canelo will emerge victorious. Those two fighters are still very young and no experience or tools to beat Canelo at this point although we can say that Canelo is slowing down and cherry picking his opponents now.

Benavidez is moving up in weight at 175 lbs and will not wait for Canelo this year.

As for Dave Apolinario of the Philippines, he almost suffered a lost there when he was knock down. His lucky that his opponent doesn't have that much power to really knock him out for good or he has recuperating power from a knock down.

This is Mauricio Sulaimann's intention and said that it is a mandatory fight for Canelo Alvarez which Canelo doesn't like but surely Canelo Alvarez will fight him and this is a true test for David Benavidez because Canelo Alvarez is not a pushover as we can all agree to that but I think it is interesting if Canelo Alvarez can really defeat David Benavidez.


Dave Apolinario is surely a proud Filipino and seeing him still undefeated is interesting he is just 25 years old at the moment and he is shaking his opponent's heads that Tanes Ongjunta's fight was really incredible for sure he will go a long way in this kind of sports, and so I am rooting for him to win.


After Canelo can not fight Benavidez because he has a fight this year maybe in May there is a huge chance that he can now fight Charlo for the best thing he can be, but this is what Canelo wanted but, I wanted a much better challenge for Canelo Alvarez, well let's just wait after this fight maybe the Benavidez VS Alvarez could still continue.

Yes I do agree, if he beats the winner of Bivol and Beterbiev then he will earn a lot of fans and he will have a better legacy at this young age. I think his father will not focus on Canelo as they know Canelo is clearly ducking his son.

If I'm not mistaken, this guys have also sparred, so they know each other. Just like Haney and Garcia who have meet during their amateur days. Yes, for sure gonna be tough for Benavidez but I think this is the challenge that he is looking for.

Or maybe Canelo's camp is just doing this to keep the fans push it and to bring more attention to make sure that money will flow once he agree with the deal, another media hypes to create attention and make more fans to involve, the more they show their intention to support this possible fight the more sure money that will going to flow, and I think that's how the business works now, there's no pride or it's not becuase of fame and legacy but more in how much money a fighter will take after the fight.

We as a fan wanted him to make this big decision and pick Benavidez as next, but there's no certainty if Canelo will take it and will let his fans be satisfied, not an easy take as the hype for Benavidez in upsetting Canelo is very high, let see if there's update that will be announce regarding to the possibility that promoters and both camps will discuss and talk about a possible deal.

Wow, that's bad news. So, Canelo just wants to go on his own so he will not be pressured, and instead will just try to cherry-pick to boost his wins and then retire eventually? There must be a reason for his decision, but whatever it is, it's not looking good for his legacy. Boxers nowadays, especially those who have popular names, can already dictate what they want to do because they know if they leave, there will be new doors that will open, since either way they can still make money promoting a popular boxer like him. However, the concern here for the fans is that Canelo, by saying no to a boxer that could give him good competition, is not a warrior. In short, a warrior would fight the best even if he is not sure he will win.