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I think it will continue until the fight actually takes place where Dmitry Bivol will be the clear favorite and most people out there have him as the favorite to win this fight.
Both are the best fighters in the light heavyweight division and they both have very satisfying records, if I look at both of them then this is fight that will be difficult to predict, but I have faith in Dmitry Bivol and this will be decision victory because the percentage of KO victory is quite small.
This fight will change one of their respective records because both are undefeated fighters and even Beterbiev is fighter who always ends every fight with KO victory.

Yes, I also think that there will be no swing odds, Bivol will continue to be the slight favorite, there could be just small movement as fans of both are going for sure to throw a lot of money specially a day or two before the actual fight date.

And with that kind of close odds, it's really hard to see how the fight will go. But it could be Beterbiev to win by knockout because of his power, and then Bivol working very hard behind his jabs and volume punching, to make Beterbiev uncomfortable in a long 12 rounds.

I also just visited some social media and saw various posts about this fight, indeed many people give support and perception that they tend to favor Bivol and indeed this fight can be proof that Bivol is the best boxer in the light heavyweight class for the current era if he really beats Beterbiev the KO king in this division.
I also thought about trying to choose Bivol as favorite who even bet some money on him in the fight for the undisputed title.

There are still about 2 weeks and it seems that each fighter is ready and looking forward to the meeting that can go down in history in one of the best fights for the light heavyweight class which determines the real champion undisputedly.
In an interview with Beterbiev he also stated that he was really healthy and fit to be able to fight this fight, indeed previously he had experienced obstacles such as injuries but he has recovered and we can see Beterbiev can fight optimally.
What is certain is that I not sure that the fight will end in KO.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 28, 2024, 08:55:04 PM

This Eddie Hearn is creating a storyline to make it appear that this boxer Devin Haney, who has a contract under his promotion, is not suing King Ry only for money and anger heheheh. Also, everyone who agrees to Eddie Hearn are clearly only making replies in this thread. Boxing is the most corrupt sport and it appears that if Hearn has declared that there are boxers who are using steroids then this certainly also implies that Devin Haney might have also used steroids in his fight against King Ry. However, the comedy ending for Devin Haney is even if he used steroids, he was destroyed. This might be why the mind of Haney has not recovered on King Ry heheheheh.

I believe that test wasn’t only done for Ryan Garcia, which got messed up with the PED issue... Haney’s actions have already caused a lot of damage to Ryan’s career. He faced a one-year suspension and now could be looking at a $50 to $100 million lawsuit. It would be foolish if only Haney’s camp made demands while Ryan’s side just complied. It’s safe to assume Haney was clean before and after the fight when tested, which is why he’s so confident in pushing this case and trying to get money from Ryan Garcia.

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This Eddie Hearn is creating a storyline to make it appear that this boxer Devin Haney, who has a contract under his promotion, is not suing King Ry only for money and anger heheheh. Also, everyone who agrees to Eddie Hearn are clearly only making replies in this thread. Boxing is the most corrupt sport and it appears that if Hearn has declared that there are boxers who are using steroids then this certainly also implies that Devin Haney might have also used steroids in his fight against King Ry. However, the comedy ending for Devin Haney is even if he used steroids, he was destroyed. This might be why the mind of Haney has not recovered on King Ry heheheheh.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 28, 2024, 07:22:51 AM

If it's prevention, the boxing organization should also do its job of doing monthly check-ups for these athletes and others before they fight, just to be sure.

I think that they do but they're not strict at all There are no check ups, they have to step on this and do something.

It isn't very comfortable when things like this happen and suits are being filed for them. They do checks probably only before the fight, the actual day but other than that, no monitoring.

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Quote from: stadus on September 28, 2024, 08:02:23 AM

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Ryan Garcia Getting Sued For 50-100 Million Could Deter People, Says Eddie Hearn
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/09/ryan-garcia-getting-sued-for-50-100-million-could-deter-people-says-eddie-hearn/

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Promoter Eddie Hearn believes that Devin Haney’s lawsuit against Ryan Garcia for 50-100 million could act as a deterrence to prevent other fighters from using performance-enhancing drugs to gain an advantage in their fights.

They made it sound righteous when it is said like this although I do agree with what they want to point out. It can prevent boxers from making the mistake of using drugs just to be a better boxer than the other.
But, I don't like the idea that it will make another boxer go broke because of the amount of money that he will pay if it's proven that he is using drugs.
Not Ryan, I know he is rich, but other boxers might not be able to afford that kind of money if they went to the same problem, and what if they don't have any idea that drugs are in their drinks or food?
If it's prevention, the boxing organization should also do its job of doing monthly check-ups for these athletes and others before they fight, just to be sure.

That’s a huge amount Ryan’s camp would have to pay if Haney wins the lawsuit. Haney has a strong chance, especially since Ryan has already been suspended for using such a substance. I guess the judge’s role will be to decide whether the $50 to $100 million claim is reasonable.

It’s definitely a deterrent, especially in big fights, because the affected party could claim such a large amount that it could wipe out a boxer’s savings. But it would be much better if the rules were improved to focus on prevention, rather than dealing with situations after the damage has already been done.

I agree to that, it's better to focus and improves such rules before things happened instead of bringing things after the damage already been done, it's affects both finances and the fame of the sued fighters, if ever Ryan loses this case for sure that huge amount of money will suck his savings and surely will ruined him especially that there's already a history like what I said both financially and emotionally Ryan will be affected of this possible outcome.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 28, 2024, 07:22:51 AM

Money! That's what is on his mind. Cheesy

Ryan Garcia Getting Sued For 50-100 Million Could Deter People, Says Eddie Hearn
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/09/ryan-garcia-getting-sued-for-50-100-million-could-deter-people-says-eddie-hearn/

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Promoter Eddie Hearn believes that Devin Haney’s lawsuit against Ryan Garcia for 50-100 million could act as a deterrence to prevent other fighters from using performance-enhancing drugs to gain an advantage in their fights.

They made it sound righteous when it is said like this although I do agree with what they want to point out. It can prevent boxers from making the mistake of using drugs just to be a better boxer than the other.
But, I don't like the idea that it will make another boxer go broke because of the amount of money that he will pay if it's proven that he is using drugs.
Not Ryan, I know he is rich, but other boxers might not be able to afford that kind of money if they went to the same problem, and what if they don't have any idea that drugs are in their drinks or food?
If it's prevention, the boxing organization should also do its job of doing monthly check-ups for these athletes and others before they fight, just to be sure.

That’s a huge amount Ryan’s camp would have to pay if Haney wins the lawsuit. Haney has a strong chance, especially since Ryan has already been suspended for using such a substance. I guess the judge’s role will be to decide whether the $50 to $100 million claim is reasonable.

It’s definitely a deterrent, especially in big fights, because the affected party could claim such a large amount that it could wipe out a boxer’s savings. But it would be much better if the rules were improved to focus on prevention, rather than dealing with situations after the damage has already been done.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 09:36:37 PM

Breaking news: Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia for Battery, Fraud and Unjust Enrichment,

https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1839738379862454376

And when we thought that Devin Haney has moved already with his defeat to Ryan Garcia, we are all wrong as he filed a lawsuit. I don't know what's on Devin's mind with this lawsuit, but it doesn't make sense.

He agreed on everything, even asking for penalties from Ryan because he was over the weight in their fight. And we all know later that he was found with PEDS on his system although it was so small that we don't know if it really impact his performance or what.

Money! That's what is on his mind. Cheesy

Ryan Garcia Getting Sued For 50-100 Million Could Deter People, Says Eddie Hearn
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2024/09/ryan-garcia-getting-sued-for-50-100-million-could-deter-people-says-eddie-hearn/

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Promoter Eddie Hearn believes that Devin Haney’s lawsuit against Ryan Garcia for 50-100 million could act as a deterrence to prevent other fighters from using performance-enhancing drugs to gain an advantage in their fights.

They made it sound righteous when it is said like this although I do agree with what they want to point out. It can prevent boxers from making the mistake of using drugs just to be a better boxer than the other.
But, I don't like the idea that it will make another boxer go broke because of the amount of money that he will pay if it's proven that he is using drugs.
Not Ryan, I know he is rich, but other boxers might not be able to afford that kind of money if they went to the same problem, and what if they don't have any idea that drugs are in their drinks or food?
If it's prevention, the boxing organization should also do its job of doing monthly check-ups for these athletes and others before they fight, just to be sure.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 27, 2024, 10:52:48 PM

Quote from: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 09:36:37 PM

Breaking news: Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia for Battery, Fraud and Unjust Enrichment,

https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1839738379862454376

And when we thought that Devin Haney has moved already with his defeat to Ryan Garcia, we are all wrong as he filed a lawsuit. I don't know what's on Devin's mind with this lawsuit, but it doesn't make sense.

He agreed on everything, even asking for penalties from Ryan because he was over the weight in their fight. And we all know later that he was found with PEDS on his system although it was so small that we don't know if it really impact his performance or what.

My skeptical observation on this is it appears that Devin Haney and his team might be speculating that presently Devin's reputation as a big name and his reputation as a skillful boxer has been destroyed. He cannot anymore gather a big audience for his events because he was trolled by King Ry before the fight and he was very much mocked in the ring. Presently they want compensation for the damage.

But if we have followed Haney or at least boxing, sooner or later we know that he will be exposed as a supposedly great fighter. Even against Loma, we thought that he had lost that fight. And the bad thing is that after winning against Loma, he really thought or at least his father that he is the next face of boxing, which is not for a boxing fans at least. He is a boring fighter, with no knockout or power.

And as I have said, sooner or later he will be exposed and that's what Ryan Garcia did to him. And him and his father really can't take that big L. As he has been the laughing stock and still continue to this day with this kind of lawsuit.

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Quote from: Dave1 on September 27, 2024, 09:36:37 PM

Breaking news: Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia for Battery, Fraud and Unjust Enrichment,

https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1839738379862454376

And when we thought that Devin Haney has moved already with his defeat to Ryan Garcia, we are all wrong as he filed a lawsuit. I don't know what's on Devin's mind with this lawsuit, but it doesn't make sense.

He agreed on everything, even asking for penalties from Ryan because he was over the weight in their fight. And we all know later that he was found with PEDS on his system although it was so small that we don't know if it really impact his performance or what.

My skeptical observation on this is it appears that Devin Haney and his team might be speculating that presently Devin's reputation as a big name and his reputation as a skillful boxer has been destroyed. He cannot anymore gather a big audience for his events because he was trolled by King Ry before the fight and he was very much mocked in the ring. Presently they want compensation for the damage.

However, this is a very head shaking case. How can the team of Devin Haney sue Ryan Garcia for battery if Devin signed a contract and agreed to fight Ryan? In any case, Devin Haney might be having these thoughts on himself that he might never get his big name reputation again. I reckon that he might also retire.

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What are your thoughts of a Fundora vs Crawford fight? It was reported that they have been ordered to fight each other since last month. However, there are no reports whether they are going to go for this fight or not.

Everything is still based on the idea that Crawford wanted to fight Canelo for the biggest purse of both boxers. But Canelo is asking for at least $100 million and we don't know if the Saudi broker is willing to give that money to Canelo.

If I'm Crawford, I will not go and fight Canelo, he might lost this fight as he will have to climb 2 weight class or even 3 as I think he is a natural 147 lbs.

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^^ Wait, I thought Haney said that he think Ryan Garcia is having a mental breakdown pre-fight? And when he gets knockdown several times and lost the fight, now he is crying and trying to get millions out of Ryan Garcia? Seriously, this guy needs to check himself with psychologist or whatever to seek about his mental health. This is the first time that we have heard this kind of thing in any sports, that the loser is suing the winner. Of course we don't condone cheaters or those boxers who try to game the sports by taking drugs. But in this case, it's very different, first Haney wanted all videos of the fight to erase, and now this lawsuit. And now he embarrassed himself again. Why not try to go for a rematch next year and beat Ryan instead of filing a non-sense lawsuit?

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Breaking news: Devin Haney sues Ryan Garcia for Battery, Fraud and Unjust Enrichment,

https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1839738379862454376

And when we thought that Devin Haney has moved already with his defeat to Ryan Garcia, we are all wrong as he filed a lawsuit. I don't know what's on Devin's mind with this lawsuit, but it doesn't make sense.

He agreed on everything, even asking for penalties from Ryan because he was over the weight in their fight. And we all know later that he was found with PEDS on his system although it was so small that we don't know if it really impact his performance or what.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 26, 2024, 05:56:39 AM

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Yes, I also think that there will be no swing odds, Bivol will continue to be the slight favorite, there could be just small movement as fans of both are going for sure to throw a lot of money specially a day or two before the actual fight date.

And with that kind of close odds, it's really hard to see how the fight will go. But it could be Beterbiev to win by knockout because of his power, and then Bivol working very hard behind his jabs and volume punching, to make Beterbiev uncomfortable in a long 12 rounds.

I think that will be the camp of Bivol's strategy. To move a lot, make Beterbiev use a lot of gas in the early rounds while Bivol uses his jabs to score. Beterbiev is relying on his KO punch and one hit could change the fight, I think he will be aggressive as early as possible to avoid the fight going for longer rounds since he will be the one at a disadvantage at 8-12 rounds maybe.
For Bivol, using that speed will be his best shot making him take punches in the air to gas him more.

Quote from: Kemarit on September 24, 2024, 07:20:13 AM

As far as the odds goes, Bivol is the slight favorite, not just because he is the younger fighter, he is also the most active and then Beterbiev is coming from a injury, so we really don't know if it will affect him in this fight and we also have to think that he is the older of the two. And with that that he is the more powerful boxer, sometimes it will really take a lot of wear and tear on him.

If the fight goes to distance, I'm seeing Bivol winning a majority or even a split decision win because he is a more volume puncher here. But if Beterbiev clip him with a solid blow, who knows, maybe he will go down and might not recover in this fight.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/beterbiev-bivol-odds-picks-predictions-betting-preview
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Dmitry Bivol is a -140 favorite over Artur Beterbiev (+110 underdog) in their bout on October 12 for the undisputed light heavyweight title.

If that's the case then I guess fans will divided almost equally and like everyone said, there's no assurance on who will win this match. I might just stick with the favorite Bivol in this match.

Same here mate, as the odds really favor Bivol now, we don't want to complicate our betting strategy, so I agree, I might go with Bivol and bet on him on the ML. Of course, there are no assurance, we have seen huge underdog winning their fight, just like in the recent AJ vs Dubois wherein Dubois is a huge underdog and yet he knockout AJ to win the title.

But there, stakes are high, both fighters are undefeated, but odd makers put Bivol at a slight favorite now. But in the first listing, before the cancellation and Beterbiev's injury, Arthur is the slight favorite. But now, things have change and Bivol is now the favorite.

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@I_Anime. It appears that you are not updated on the occurrences in the cryptospace if your only source of information is only this forum and some cryptonews websites. The entertaining news updates are on social media heheheh.

Also, the creation of this cryptofight night was on 2021 during the coronavirus pandemic. The first influencer fight was between 2 cryptowhales loomdart and rookieXBT after they had a very long argument in social media that made them very angry.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 21, 2024, 11:45:08 PM

On Ansem vs. Bitboy for cryptofight night, they organized for the both of them to face each other very much similar to a fight in boxing and MMA hehehehh. This fight might be in boxing similar to Ansem's first fight where he lost against the British crypto whale Barneyboi.

It appears that they are very much serious. Also Ansem's head is so very large, the arms of his sunglasses cannot reach the whole of his ears hehehehehh.

This is the first time of hearing of something like this to be frank . But base on how it seems it would be indeed interesting and entertaining, like can someone fill me in on how it works, like I will really love to know more about it because it really sound fun . Is the fight going to be serious or some kind of funny fight because looking at the image already am already imagine how fun it will be

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on September 25, 2024, 10:35:32 PM

@jossiel. You might be correct and Ansem also has lost to Barneyboi. He might have learned a new technic to use his reach after this loss heheheh. However, if he is the loser again, we should accept that for a tall muscular black person, Ansem cannot fight.

There are other people who might also be speculating that Ansem might have learned a new technic hehehehehheh! There are inflows beginning to go to Ansem.

https://polymarket.com/event/ansem-vs-bitboy-crypto-fight-night?tid=1727321517333

Well, that concludes it if he losses to our bitboy.

I don't know about Ansem but if that's the speculation of the people about him learning a technique. Only thing to find out.

And that is to tune in into their fight and see if he had learned in the past loss that he's got and apply it against bitboy.

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Quote from: Kemarit on September 25, 2024, 11:00:06 PM

Yes, I also think that there will be no swing odds, Bivol will continue to be the slight favorite, there could be just small movement as fans of both are going for sure to throw a lot of money specially a day or two before the actual fight date.

And with that kind of close odds, it's really hard to see how the fight will go. But it could be Beterbiev to win by knockout because of his power, and then Bivol working very hard behind his jabs and volume punching, to make Beterbiev uncomfortable in a long 12 rounds.

I think that will be the camp of Bivol's strategy. To move a lot, make Beterbiev use a lot of gas in the early rounds while Bivol uses his jabs to score. Beterbiev is relying on his KO punch and one hit could change the fight, I think he will be aggressive as early as possible to avoid the fight going for longer rounds since he will be the one at a disadvantage at 8-12 rounds maybe.
For Bivol, using that speed will be his best shot making him take punches in the air to gas him more.

Quote from: Kemarit on September 24, 2024, 07:20:13 AM

As far as the odds goes, Bivol is the slight favorite, not just because he is the younger fighter, he is also the most active and then Beterbiev is coming from a injury, so we really don't know if it will affect him in this fight and we also have to think that he is the older of the two. And with that that he is the more powerful boxer, sometimes it will really take a lot of wear and tear on him.

If the fight goes to distance, I'm seeing Bivol winning a majority or even a split decision win because he is a more volume puncher here. But if Beterbiev clip him with a solid blow, who knows, maybe he will go down and might not recover in this fight.

https://www.oddsshark.com/boxing/beterbiev-bivol-odds-picks-predictions-betting-preview
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Dmitry Bivol is a -140 favorite over Artur Beterbiev (+110 underdog) in their bout on October 12 for the undisputed light heavyweight title.

If that's the case then I guess fans will divided almost equally and like everyone said, there's no assurance on who will win this match. I might just stick with the favorite Bivol in this match.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 26, 2024, 03:35:03 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 25, 2024, 11:42:53 PM

Artur Beterbiev is a more exciting fighter so I would like to see him win. If he retired undefeated with every win by knockout it would be even more impressive than Edwin Valero’s accomplishment because he has fought a better level of fighters. With his age and frequent injuries, it is only a matter of time before this catches up to him. So far, age has not been a factor but the doubts have increased and it has made him an underdog for the first time in his career. The odds are still really close, so that shows how much confidence bettors have in his punching power.

Let’s go with the more exciting boxer....the one with 20 wins, all by KO. That’s the real excitement in boxing! And as we can see from the betting odds, he’s still a slight favorite, so I’m confident he’ll win, and Bivol might get his first KO loss. However, when it comes to retirement talk, I think it’s too early. For Beterbiev, age seems to be just a number, and since he’s undefeated, there’s no clear reason for him to retire. He can still win more, make more money, and add to his legacy.

If he manage to win then it's better to continue and make more money, if he in that period of thinking about retiring better to use his remaining time as undefeated and make money out from it, instead of quitting as early as know, though the outcome of this fight still unknown since Bivol is also a good figther who can upset his opponent's fans, let see if how they will end this fight and check what will be the future plans of both fighters.

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Quote from: Natalim on September 26, 2024, 03:35:03 AM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 25, 2024, 11:42:53 PM

Artur Beterbiev is a more exciting fighter so I would like to see him win. If he retired undefeated with every win by knockout it would be even more impressive than Edwin Valero’s accomplishment because he has fought a better level of fighters. With his age and frequent injuries, it is only a matter of time before this catches up to him. So far, age has not been a factor but the doubts have increased and it has made him an underdog for the first time in his career. The odds are still really close, so that shows how much confidence bettors have in his punching power.

Let’s go with the more exciting boxer....the one with 20 wins, all by KO. That’s the real excitement in boxing! And as we can see from the betting odds, he’s still a slight favorite, so I’m confident he’ll win, and Bivol might get his first KO loss. However, when it comes to retirement talk, I think it’s too early. For Beterbiev, age seems to be just a number, and since he’s undefeated, there’s no clear reason for him to retire. He can still win more, make more money, and add to his legacy.

Bivol is also exciting fighter, he hasn't lost any of his fight and we all know that he beat a prime version of Canelo. And Alvarez started to avoid him and duck him and doesn't want to give him that rematch that fans are waiting for.

And so with that, there's no other way and inevitable that this two Russians are going to face each other for the unified belt. And as we can see, the odds are very close and it's really good for boxing gamblers because it's going to be easy to bet, all we have to go to is ML and go on the boxers that we think that might win here.

Or either Bivol by decision or Beterbiev by KO is also very attractive.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on September 25, 2024, 11:42:53 PM

Quote from: Slow death on September 24, 2024, 05:49:55 PM

Both are good fighters, it's funny that both have titles that they won in 2017 and still hold them today. Which means that these two fighters are incredible. But in this fight one of them will have to lose and if we were talking about other fighters I would look at the age issue, the younger fighter could have a slight advantage, but the problem is that Dmitry Bivol in 22 fights only won 11 by KO if I'm not mistaken, in the last fight against Malik Zinad he won by KO, but 2 fights before that, I'm talking about the fights against Lyndon Arthur, Ramirez, Alvarez... were not by KO, while Artur Beterbiev is 20 and won 20 by KO, this guy even at 39 years old still wins fights by KO. That's why in my opinion Artur Beterbiev will win this fight.

Artur Beterbiev is a more exciting fighter so I would like to see him win. If he retired undefeated with every win by knockout it would be even more impressive than Edwin Valero’s accomplishment because he has fought a better level of fighters. With his age and frequent injuries, it is only a matter of time before this catches up to him. So far, age has not been a factor but the doubts have increased and it has made him an underdog for the first time in his career. The odds are still really close, so that shows how much confidence bettors have in his punching power.

Probably there are doubts because of the injuries that he suffered, and boxing pundits might think that that it's a sign that the wear and tear and plus the age has caught with Beterbiev. So odd makers is putting him as a slight underdog, but still very close fight in my opinion. He has the punching power, but Bivol chin has been tested by Canelo and it didn't break.

As for Edwin Valero, yeah that's one case what a boxer could be when they are hit in the head, there are speculations that what triggers him to be the suspect in his wife killings and then he takes his life inside the cell.

And we have been deprived of a fight between him and Manny Pacquaio, oh well Sad

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