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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 06:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Maybe it came from the camp of Eubank Jr, but doesn't make sense. However, I don't see any names in the 147 lbs that could give Crawford a good fight or even more money. Charlo maybe at 160 lbs would be good as we all know that during his fight with Spence, they are going back and forth him and the Charlo's.

But as others have said, it's the rematch that we are all been waiting because as far as we know, Spence has activated it already the last time we heard. But so far, there are no noise about it.

Without a confirmation fans been hang on the air, Crawford's years are being wasted as there's no confirm fight that being updated maybe he's enjoying those millions that he recieved from his win and he's trying to keep that belts and whoever the next figther to challenge him will need to bring him an interest to call for it, not sure what might be the next step for Crawford and that rumor fight against Eubank Jr, is just a publicity to bring Crawford name up or maybe to hype Eubank and who knows if fans buy this maybe they will start creating a channel to negotiate for a possible match up between the these two fighters.

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Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Yeah, I think that Crawford is still looking a dance partner for this year, no names have surface except, Canelo and then Spence for a rematch. So I'm also not buying him and Eubank Jr either in US or UK, there is no money in that fight.

I think Inoue's resume for his year might surpassed Crawford for the pound for pound. Specially if Inoue destroys Nery and dispatches him with another knockout reel. Hopefully though Crawford will still have a fight at least this year so that he won't have a ring rust on not making any money for year 2024.

He should fight Boots Ennis, I reckon unless he is doing a tactic similar to Canelo and avoid the best fighter in his division hehehe. I do not know the story, however, the IBF gave the welterweight championship to Boots Ennis after Bud Crawford fought Spence.

But Bud said that he will not get anything fighting Boots Ennis and that's why he totally overlook him at this point. And checking the rankings, yeah, Boots is now the IBF champion. But Bud still holds the other 3 belts so he is still the king of this division.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on March 12, 2024, 10:55:40 PM

Bud should get his belt and unify the welterweight division again. But if he does not do this, the boxing promoters should let him fight for the vacant WBC and IBF super welterweight championships vs. Tim Tszyu who is WBO super welterweight champion.

154 lbs could be a good territory for him. He has nothing to proved at 147 lbs, he unified it, beat the hell out of Spence. And if he targets super welterweight and then become a unified champion, then I will say that he will cemented his legacy as the only boxer becoming 3 divisions unified champion in the modern 4 belt era.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 12, 2024, 05:13:34 PM

How about Manny Pacquiao vs Conor Benn?

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Pacquiao had a face-off with Conor Benn in Saudi Arabia Thursday following the Anthony Joshua-Francis Ngannou weigh-in, and he told Lance Pugmire of Boxing Scene that he's hoping to leave Saudi Arabia with a signed contract to fight the England native.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112098-manny-pacquiao-ready-to-go-for-fight-vs-conor-benn-amid-contract-talks

I thought that Manny has a fight with Buakaw?

Maybe after this Benn will be next for him? In any case we will see, Manny is still one of the most recognizable fighter in the world, a boxing icon and that could be the reason why everyone is still calling him.

I think the exhibition fight with Buakaw will still push through because i have seen Manny's video training hard for this.

About the Conor Benn fight, i also think that this will push through as they have their first face-off already and i will just consider the Buakaw fight as a tune-up for the Benn encounter. Manny has nothing to prove but the former Senator of the Philippines just love the lime lights that boxing could bring to him.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 12, 2024, 06:28:08 AM

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Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Yeah, I think that Crawford is still looking a dance partner for this year, no names have surface except, Canelo and then Spence for a rematch. So I'm also not buying him and Eubank Jr either in US or UK, there is no money in that fight.

I think Inoue's resume for his year might surpassed Crawford for the pound for pound. Specially if Inoue destroys Nery and dispatches him with another knockout reel. Hopefully though Crawford will still have a fight at least this year so that he won't have a ring rust on not making any money for year 2024.

He should fight Boots Ennis, I reckon unless he is doing a tactic similar to Canelo and avoid the best fighter in his division hehehe. I do not know the story, however, the IBF gave the welterweight championship to Boots Ennis after Bud Crawford fought Spence.

Bud should get his belt and unify the welterweight division again. But if he does not do this, the boxing promoters should let him fight for the vacant WBC and IBF super welterweight championships vs. Tim Tszyu who is WBO super welterweight champion.

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How about Manny Pacquiao vs Conor Benn?

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Pacquiao had a face-off with Conor Benn in Saudi Arabia Thursday following the Anthony Joshua-Francis Ngannou weigh-in, and he told Lance Pugmire of Boxing Scene that he's hoping to leave Saudi Arabia with a signed contract to fight the England native.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10112098-manny-pacquiao-ready-to-go-for-fight-vs-conor-benn-amid-contract-talks

I thought that Manny has a fight with Buakaw?

Maybe after this Benn will be next for him? In any case we will see, Manny is still one of the most recognizable fighter in the world, a boxing icon and that could be the reason why everyone is still calling him.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 06:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Maybe it came from the camp of Eubank Jr, but doesn't make sense. However, I don't see any names in the 147 lbs that could give Crawford a good fight or even more money. Charlo maybe at 160 lbs would be good as we all know that during his fight with Spence, they are going back and forth him and the Charlo's.

But as others have said, it's the rematch that we are all been waiting because as far as we know, Spence has activated it already the last time we heard. But so far, there are no noise about it.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on March 12, 2024, 06:17:36 AM

Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

Yeah, I think that Crawford is still looking a dance partner for this year, no names have surface except, Canelo and then Spence for a rematch. So I'm also not buying him and Eubank Jr either in US or UK, there is no money in that fight.

I think Inoue's resume for his year might surpassed Crawford for the pound for pound. Specially if Inoue destroys Nery and dispatches him with another knockout reel. Hopefully though Crawford will still have a fight at least this year so that he won't have a ring rust on not making any money for year 2024.

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Rumors are circulating about Crawford facing Eubank Jr but I am not buying it. I am not sure what Crawford gets fighting Eubank Jr. and as mentioned by @Kemarit, both are working under Bomac. Or maybe both fighters have issues in the gym that they want to fight each other. But still, Crawford gets nothing fighting Eubank Jr unless he can dictate a catchweight.

Crawford's years are really wasted. Inoue if he wins in his next defense or if Usyk wins against Fury deserve to replace Crawford as the new pound for pound.

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@Kemarit. His message on social media only appears that Chris Eubanks has a Christmas wish hehehe. I reckon that he wants to fight someone with a big name, for a big purse before he can announce his retirement. However, if he is not a champion, we can be quite certain that this would not be a very attractive offer for Bud Crawford. Chris Eubanks cannot offer money, cannot offer a championship, cannot offer a victory over a big name.

Also, on a rematch for Crawford and Spence, I disagree. I reckon after what we have witnessed from Spence, the fans do want a rematch. They want Bud Crawford vs. Boots Ennis!

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on March 09, 2024, 12:56:51 PM

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I've seen this post,

https://twitter.com/ChrisEubankJr/status/1766099150691823693

Any thoughts on this? This is not official yet, and I have to verify if this is Chris Eubank official account or some poser. But intriguing match, Crawford going as high as 160 lbs in this fight materialized. His name has been in the discussions for a Canelo fight at super Middleweight. Maybe this is just a test run for Crawford.

However, both of them have the same trainer in Brian “Bomac” McIntyre. Who won the trainer of the year in 2023, obviously with Crawford winning against his rival Errol Spence Jr and then also helping Eubank Jr avenge his defeat at the hands of Liam Smith.

As far as I know, that was from the official account of Eubank Junior.
I don't know why everyone everywhere is saying that this is absolutely official! But I am honestly still a little doubtful about this one.
Because everything we can see so far is only the image and the X post.

Actually, if this was fake, they should have been already deleted by now. And I am also pretty sure that it is not a fake ID or something.
However, if this somehow happens it will surely make a huge hype no doubt.

I did not say it's official, that's why I'm asking boxing fans here and I'm also surprised to see it as I have said, both are under Bomac. And so with this whole social media era that we have, it's really important to really read between the lines and not treat everything we read as official, just saying. It's better to conformed with other first.

Anyhow, I also thought that there will be a rematch between Crawford and Spence, and I think this is what the fans have been waiting for.

Hopefully, this can happen this year.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on March 08, 2024, 05:57:40 PM

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Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

I'm not a big fan of such fights either, and would never bought a ticket or pay-per-view for it, but at the same time, I'm not going to lie - I am curious how will that unfold.
Mike might be old, but he still has a lot of power and explosiveness and surely won't be stepping into a ring to get a beating from some showbiz kid.
Paul's weight in recent fights was only around ~84 kg, while Tyson was at 100kg during the fight against Roy Jones Jr. in Nov 2020. I'd imagine Paul will probably want to bulk up a bit.
The current odds on Mike are x3.2, which I think could be a good bet to take.

Thanks, I think majority here is not a big fan of exhibition fight that involves Jake Paul. But yeah same year, if we play our imagine, Tyson is one of the best heavyweight and there could be fans here that witnesses his greatness to downfall.

Paul will have to get to as high as CW in this weight, not just like 160 lbs - 170 lbs. At least close to 180 or even higher so that he can match Tyson.

I'm not also gonna bet but probably just wait how it unfolds.

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Quote from: Kemarit on March 08, 2024, 07:06:19 PM

I've seen this post,

https://twitter.com/ChrisEubankJr/status/1766099150691823693

Any thoughts on this? This is not official yet, and I have to verify if this is Chris Eubank official account or some poser. But intriguing match, Crawford going as high as 160 lbs in this fight materialized. His name has been in the discussions for a Canelo fight at super Middleweight. Maybe this is just a test run for Crawford.

However, both of them have the same trainer in Brian “Bomac” McIntyre. Who won the trainer of the year in 2023, obviously with Crawford winning against his rival Errol Spence Jr and then also helping Eubank Jr avenge his defeat at the hands of Liam Smith.

As far as I know, that was from the official account of Eubank Junior.
I don't know why everyone everywhere is saying that this is absolutely official! But I am honestly still a little doubtful about this one.
Because everything we can see so far is only the image and the X post.

Actually, if this was fake, they should have been already deleted by now. And I am also pretty sure that it is not a fake ID or something.
However, if this somehow happens it will surely make a huge hype no doubt.

Anyway, the interesting thing part is you know both of these guys' trainer is Brian McIntyre,
I don't know how these two guys come to the point of fighting each other, lol Cheesy

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I've seen this post,

https://twitter.com/ChrisEubankJr/status/1766099150691823693

Any thoughts on this? This is not official yet, and I have to verify if this is Chris Eubank official account or some poser. But intriguing match, Crawford going as high as 160 lbs in this fight materialized. His name has been in the discussions for a Canelo fight at super Middleweight. Maybe this is just a test run for Crawford.

However, both of them have the same trainer in Brian “Bomac” McIntyre. Who won the trainer of the year in 2023, obviously with Crawford winning against his rival Errol Spence Jr and then also helping Eubank Jr avenge his defeat at the hands of Liam Smith.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 07, 2024, 10:28:59 PM

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

I'm not a big fan of such fights either, and would never bought a ticket or pay-per-view for it, but at the same time, I'm not going to lie - I am curious how will that unfold.
Mike might be old, but he still has a lot of power and explosiveness and surely won't be stepping into a ring to get a beating from some showbiz kid.
Paul's weight in recent fights was only around ~84 kg, while Tyson was at 100kg during the fight against Roy Jones Jr. in Nov 2020. I'd imagine Paul will probably want to bulk up a bit.
The current odds on Mike are x3.2, which I think could be a good bet to take.

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Quote from: Japinat on March 08, 2024, 08:10:14 AM

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This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

The match against Tyson, I think is like just youtube content for Paul, while for Tyson obviously money is his main motive for accepting the challenge from Paul regardless of whether he will win or lose later in the match, I think what Tyson does will only risk his pride as a boxing legend and I am quite sure if there will be special requirements that occur between the two so that Tyson can get a lot of money from him. Jack Paul and also Neflix as broadcasters who broadcast the match.
Honestly, I would like to see Jack Paul challenge fighters or boxers who are still very active today like Islam Makhachev and Oleksandr Usyk so that he knows the true meaning of boxing and UFC.

Why hate on Jake Paul? He is making a good career and getting into exhibition fights but this guy has some real talent of a boxer. It's business afterall, so they decide on whom they'll fight and when it will happen. There are a lot of boxers nowadays, if we don't want his style, then let's not watch his fights, just pretty simple as that.

Jake Paul have fought legitimate boxers as well, but since he is not a champion or a mandatory challenger, we cannot expect he'll face a top ranked boxers that could potentially give him some problem, maybe time will come, but for now, let him get on the journey he is taking.

Yeah, and with those hates Jake Paul manage to create noise with his career, I mean with his money making career, he sets up fights and he bang big bags of money after, like what you just said why being affected if you don't want his style then don't watch and don't bothered to read or watch any social post about him, he's not going to be affected on whatever criticizm that he will recieved it's his job and he's making millions of dollars out from each set fight for him.

Simple exhibition but the amount that he will received on his paychecks is really something decent compared from those who are really striving making a career out from this sport.

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Quote from: Google+ on March 08, 2024, 07:43:25 AM

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

Well, we all know they made some behind-the-curtain contract agreements as well that's why we see that they are making progress with it and such things are popular in the entertainment industry where everything is just pretentious. This is all about money and even though it is obvious, people still buy it because they enjoy seeing him fighting those people and they are now making some changes by joining some big event to sell their fight as well, looks like everything is going well according to their plan and they are successful with their market strategy.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 08, 2024, 02:07:05 AM

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

The match against Tyson, I think is like just youtube content for Paul, while for Tyson obviously money is his main motive for accepting the challenge from Paul regardless of whether he will win or lose later in the match, I think what Tyson does will only risk his pride as a boxing legend and I am quite sure if there will be special requirements that occur between the two so that Tyson can get a lot of money from him. Jack Paul and also Neflix as broadcasters who broadcast the match.
Honestly, I would like to see Jack Paul challenge fighters or boxers who are still very active today like Islam Makhachev and Oleksandr Usyk so that he knows the true meaning of boxing and UFC.

Why hate on Jake Paul? He is making a good career and getting into exhibition fights but this guy has some real talent of a boxer. It's business afterall, so they decide on whom they'll fight and when it will happen. There are a lot of boxers nowadays, if we don't want his style, then let's not watch his fights, just pretty simple as that.

Jake Paul have fought legitimate boxers as well, but since he is not a champion or a mandatory challenger, we cannot expect he'll face a top ranked boxers that could potentially give him some problem, maybe time will come, but for now, let him get on the journey he is taking.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 08, 2024, 02:07:05 AM

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

Jake Paul who is a YouTuber continues to create controversy by challenging boxing legends and UFC to fight him, although only as entertainment but by facing fighters who have been at the end of his career certainly nothing more than just to embarrass the current boxing sport as said by Ryan Garcia , so far Paul has managed to beat several boxers and fighters such as Ryan Bourland, Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silva and even him have an 8-1-0 (5 knockout) record with the majority facing boxers and fighters who are no longer active in the ring.

The match against Tyson, I think is like just youtube content for Paul, while for Tyson obviously money is his main motive for accepting the challenge from Paul regardless of whether he will win or lose later in the match, I think what Tyson does will only risk his pride as a boxing legend and I am quite sure if there will be special requirements that occur between the two so that Tyson can get a lot of money from him. Jack Paul and also Neflix as broadcasters who broadcast the match.
Honestly, I would like to see Jack Paul challenge fighters or boxers who are still very active today like Islam Makhachev and Oleksandr Usyk so that he knows the true meaning of boxing and UFC.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on March 08, 2024, 02:07:05 AM

Quote from: Dave1 on March 07, 2024, 10:28:59 PM

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

I also had this feeling that they might put a script in this fight. I mean Mike Tyson is old already and yet he is cool with it. For sure there is the incentive of money, but still though, he doesn't want to lose to someone specially to Jake Paul.

So they will have to put a great script, maybe we will see a draw like what we see before when Mike fought Jones like years ago.
Or maybe Tyson will controlled his punches and not give 100% of it because he could KO Paul and it might not good for his career in exhibition match.
There's a lot of scenario here that can give both boxers, win-win.

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Quote from: Dave1 on March 07, 2024, 10:28:59 PM

Not a fan of this kind of games, but let's admit it, Jake Paul has making a ton of money when he started his career of being a boxer in the exhibition fight era. And this could be one of his biggest pay check as he will be taking on the Legendary Iron Mike Tyson. But at the end of the day still boils down on the money here as they have a huge backer in Netflix.

But as for the winner, Jake Paul is the initial favorite as listed and so with that, I think the fight will go on the distance. I think Tyson will not go full force in this fight and try to score a knockout, besides he is almost 60 years of age.

This is not a real boxing fight, i mean this is only an exhibition match and there might be a chance that this will be scripted hehe. Mike Tyson is already old for boxing though the strength might still be there but the endurance for me is questionable and we might see Jake Paul clinching every time so as to avoid those Tyson's punches. For me this exhibition fight is just for the money.

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