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One thing is for sure. Boxing has been good for Jake Paul and living in Puerto Rico must have some serious tax benefits because his new house which cost him $16,000,000 is pretty insane.

https://twitter.com/dexerto/status/1663967896781897741

UFC fighters have to think it’s pretty crazy how much money is being made in other sports. I hope Jake is able to figure out a way to share the wealth with other fighters.
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^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

That might be the case this time but considering that Rolly Romero is also now that WBA champion and Oscar's cow is just the challenger, there is also a chance that it might not be the case as PBC are still leaning on the A-side. Well, this fight could happen much sooner as long as both camps will come up with a deal which I think is possible before this year will end and as long as there is a hype surrounding the bout.

Returning a favor just like what is mentioned above are only happening in most fights where there is a rematch or if it is a trilogy which is very rare to happen these days.

So, if it is a different boxer within the same opposite camps, that same favor will probably not happen and will not be returned. In that case, they might have to come up with another idea without losing the advantage being on the A-side and knowing Al Haymon, that is definitely hard to do.
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^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

That might be the case this time but considering that Rolly Romero is also now that WBA champion and Oscar's cow is just the challenger, there is also a chance that it might not be the case as PBC are still leaning on the A-side. Well, this fight could happen much sooner as long as both camps will come up with a deal which I think is possible before this year will end and as long as there is a hype surrounding the bout.
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

I smell that Ryan Garcia is just bluffing. But in Romero's case, it makes sense since he might not be able to hold the belt against the real contenders of the division. Garcia just came from a KO defeat so it's like an easier defense but financially big. But unless I can hear from Oscar De La Hoya, Garcia is just talking so people would see that he is not scared of Romero. But maybe this is doable if Garcia is really, serious. Both seem weak in the division but very popular so it is beneficial for both of them. And Garcia may not be able to get another title shot if Romero losses the belt to someone really good.

But there's also the promotional and network that both camps need to address. It is obvious that Garcia is the bigger name so I wonder if PBC and Showtime will allow GBP and DAZN to the event so the fight will go on. Just like when GBP and DAZN allowed them during the Tank-Garcia fight.

What we are witnessing from Garcia is just trying to re-live his hype so that when the comes that he will fight, he will always have some people who will support him because even if we say that he not doing any good in defense, he is still a talented boxer because of his left fist that could potentially defeat any KO directly if they will receive that punch neat and clean. For now, this kid is just trying to be relevant after what happened to him, and I don't really think that he is already that ready to fight someone.
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In case someone is interested in heavyweight boxing, then there are some interesting news - Oleksandr Usyk set to fight Daniel Dubois in Poland in August.

That is a bit confusing to read. Either this is a total fake, otherwise I cant explain why is he fighting Daniel Dubois, when there were negotiations about fighting Tyson Fury. With all respect to Dubois, but who he is? He seems to be on different level than Usyk. A regular WBA champion. Seems a decent achievement, but the word regular spoils everything Cheesy
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

Nice! I want that fight to really pull through and make a living hell out of Rolando Romero, I really hate the guy with his antics and pushing technique, he is easily unlikeable to me, but with Ryan Garcia, I think that Rolando Romero is good as knockdown for sure,

Well, after that fight with Tank Davis, I guess Ryan Garcia has already learned a bit, but for sure this will be a test for both fighters' Style, I can see Ryan Garcia winning this but Rolando Romero would likely start pushing and the referee scoring that as a knockdown then that will be another controversial fight for Romero, I think the referee should be questioned for doing something like that,

^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.

Oh yeah, I remember Oscar De La Hoya not showing his face in Ryan Garcia's corner because of some death threats this could be a closure that De La Hoya is really sincere, but regarding that, this fight may continue without his intervention there are other promotions that likely want to see this fight for sure,

We haven't seen any given updates yet and because this is still fresh news but given the circumstance, it could surely come to fruition because as I have said there are many that want to see this and given the hype that both are challenging one another we could surely have this for sure,
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^^ Perhaps if the money is right then we might see this fight. It's good for the network and their promotions as both are two loud mouths, and Romero has a belt right now so Ryan might be interested seven if this is just the WBA belt that he is holding.

If Ryan was able to gave way to Tank's demand, then maybe Oscar can still work it out with with Showtime and PBC and this time, they would return the favor to him and let him handle it for DAZN.
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.

I smell that Ryan Garcia is just bluffing. But in Romero's case, it makes sense since he might not be able to hold the belt against the real contenders of the division. Garcia just came from a KO defeat so it's like an easier defense but financially big. But unless I can hear from Oscar De La Hoya, Garcia is just talking so people would see that he is not scared of Romero. But maybe this is doable if Garcia is really, serious. Both seem weak in the division but very popular so it is beneficial for both of them. And Garcia may not be able to get another title shot if Romero losses the belt to someone really good.

But there's also the promotional and network that both camps need to address. It is obvious that Garcia is the bigger name so I wonder if PBC and Showtime will allow GBP and DAZN to the event so the fight will go on. Just like when GBP and DAZN allowed them during the Tank-Garcia fight.
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This is still very early, but I'm sure that we have heard Rolly Romero calling out Ryan Garcia after his controversial win against Ismael Barroso to capture the vacant WBA 140 lbs title. And with that, Ryan already responded as says,



https://twitter.com/RyanGarcia/status/1662519299083493378

We've seen Ryan Garcia already back in the gym, this time and obviously everyone knows about it, he has move to Derrick James as his new trainer and trying to be a slick boxer, hehehehe. And if ever this fight would materialized, this one is good to be honest, both has power, both has been drained at 135 lbs when they fought Tank Davis, so at 140 lbs and fully rehydrated, there will be a lot of fireworks and power in this fight. We've seen that Rolly is vulnerable to left hook, while Ryan's weaknesses is his body. So very interesting clash of styles, so hopefully we can see this fight later this year if everyone is really on board on pushing this one.
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Boxxer/Sky Sports(UK)- Another upset, Chris Billam-Smith (18-1-12 KOs) is the new WBO cruiserweight champion with a  majority decision win over former champ Lawrence Okolie (19-1-14 KOs).
This fight was another fishy judging from one of the judges who score the fight at 112-112. A tie? WTF?
The champion Lawrence Okolie deducted two points because of holding too many times. Then, he was knocked down 3 times in the entire 12 rounds. Obviously, the score would heavily be on the side of the challenger, Chris Billam-Smith. But that was not the case because one judge seems to see the fight entirely differently. I don't know if his eyes are blurry or if he is just paid to do that job.
This kind of garbage had been happening so many times in the sport and I don't think it will be stopped easily as judges become biased about the fight.
Now, that judge is in the hot seat with so many fans fired up at how he scored the game.

Anyway, Chris still won the WBO World Cruiserweight, thankfully, and he stained the record of the ex-champion, now with 1 loss in his career.

This is the type of thing that I always talk about boxing and the sport when this type of controversy arises, since the Olympics I have seen this type of behavior and I have never agreed, of course the judges have their criteria and how to go against what they say? I believe that in boxing the fights should be done minute by minute with an audit of the judges according to their criteria and at the moment they assign the points, I think that this is the easiest way to know why they assigned points or not..

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Well, at least our very own Melvin tried his best in defending his belt against the challenger but his time has come to give up his precious belt for the meantime but I think he will try to bounce back next time if he will have the chance to repeat the process. Overall, that is his 3rd defeat in his career but he's still young enough to do more fights and possibly be a champion again. Hopefully next time, fate will be on his side.

Well, Melvin Jerusalem is dominating the 1st until the 3rd round but because he has gas out on the 4th until the 7th round he lost it to Oscar Collazo, well I got an insider into why Melvin Jerusalem hit the bucket and was gas out, actually, Jerusalem was winning rounds but he changes his game plan on the 4th round, well this is because Jerusalem was not in his 100% entering the fight Melvin Jerusalem's body didn't adjust to the time difference on the USA where the fight occurs, it said on the interview that Jerusalem enter the ring with deprived of sleep so Collazo's punches had a big impact on him he is lacking of sleep,


Yeah i saw the highlight of that fight where Vic Saludar knocked down the Puerto Rican fighter with that body shots and i thought that may Jerusalem could do more than that and maybe beat Oscar Collazo but things turned the other way around, and that's boxing, styles makes a fight.

TBH, this Oscar Collazo had some talent where i think that he could defend this belt for a long a time. Sad to say that there's not much interest in the boxing community in this weight category, i mean boxers in this division are paid way lower than their bigger counterparts.

Actually looking at the fight and seeing the interview of Melvin Jerusalem why he lost it really makes sense I really think the lack of government supports for our boxer was the one that I see is at fault here even though Melvin Jerusalem has good training and had a fight plan going to the fight if he is late in making preparation and to condition his body the time difference makes it very difficult for him in making enough sleeps, because in adjusting to the time difference and it is in the USA it should be 1 month I think we should give them a chance,
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This is for Filipino boxing fans in this forum.

Tomorrow, PH time, Melvin Jerusalem will make his first WBO minimumweight title against Puerto Rican Oscar Collazo.

What makes this fight interesting is that Jerusalem is placed as the underdog against Collazo, who by the way has only six fights as a pro boxer. On the interview, Jerusalem said that he is motivated by the underdog tag and I'll bite that  Grin, so I'm placing a bet for him ML @3.51. Hope he will retain the crown and continue the streak of upsets done by Filipino boxers.

Unfortunately, I have to be the breaker of this sad news, but Melvin Jerusalem lost the fight as he was stop in the 7th rounds by Collazo. Melvin did start great in the first four rounds, but it seems that Collazo is just taking his time and trying to read Melvin early.

As it become move evident that Collazo is the more powerful puncher between the two and for 3 1/2 rounds he started to battered our very own Melvin. And as tough as he is, Jerusalem says "no mas".

Sad day for Ph sports fans. Fil-am coach Erik Spoeltra's team, Miami Heat also lost. I also thought Jerusalem would successfully defend his belt but well, it is what it is.

Yes, I also on the bandwagon on Jerusalem, specially on how he won the belt from the Japanese and now defending it against Collazo from PR. But this Collazo is very good, I don't think that Melvin and his camp underestimated him,  but he was just too good and above the level of Jerusalem.

However, I think Jerusalem can still bounce back though in his career. I mean he can get back to the drawing board and see where he can improved. We all know that no amount of trainer can prepare you from body shot, but at least maybe if he can be taught how to protect his side it might be good for him in the future, just saying.

There's no doubt that Melvin can still bounce back but that is for the future for now because I don't think that there camp will try and chase for a rematch as it was Melvin who was defeated via KO as per California rules but on paper it was a corner stoppage as Melvin was not able anymore to continue the fight. Anyway, he still got more years ahead of him and that defeat will not rule over his career. Hope to see him again soon fighting for the throne.
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Boxxer/Sky Sports(UK)- Another upset, Chris Billam-Smith (18-1-12 KOs) is the new WBO cruiserweight champion with a  majority decision win over former champ Lawrence Okolie (19-1-14 KOs).
This fight was another fishy judging from one of the judges who score the fight at 112-112. A tie? WTF?
The champion Lawrence Okolie deducted two points because of holding too many times. Then, he was knocked down 3 times in the entire 12 rounds. Obviously, the score would heavily be on the side of the challenger, Chris Billam-Smith. But that was not the case because one judge seems to see the fight entirely differently. I don't know if his eyes are blurry or if he is just paid to do that job.
This kind of garbage had been happening so many times in the sport and I don't think it will be stopped easily as judges become biased about the fight.
Now, that judge is in the hot seat with so many fans fired up at how he scored the game.

Anyway, Chris still won the WBO World Cruiserweight, thankfully, and he stained the record of the ex-champion, now with 1 loss in his career.


I haven't seen the fight though, but maybe what we are seeing is the "Dave Moretti" effect?  Smiley

But in any case, it's really hard to stop this kind of bias scoring for these boxing judges. The corruption is really deep-rooted in boxing right now and judges never knows how to be fair and score the fight live because they could have been in the payroll.

Anyhow, it's good that we have a new champion and the other 2 judges score it to Chris Billam-Smith.
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Boxxer/Sky Sports(UK)- Another upset, Chris Billam-Smith (18-1-12 KOs) is the new WBO cruiserweight champion with a  majority decision win over former champ Lawrence Okolie (19-1-14 KOs).
This fight was another fishy judging from one of the judges who score the fight at 112-112. A tie? WTF?
The champion Lawrence Okolie deducted two points because of holding too many times. Then, he was knocked down 3 times in the entire 12 rounds. Obviously, the score would heavily be on the side of the challenger, Chris Billam-Smith. But that was not the case because one judge seems to see the fight entirely differently. I don't know if his eyes are blurry or if he is just paid to do that job.
This kind of garbage had been happening so many times in the sport and I don't think it will be stopped easily as judges become biased about the fight.
Now, that judge is in the hot seat with so many fans fired up at how he scored the game.

Anyway, Chris still won the WBO World Cruiserweight, thankfully, and he stained the record of the ex-champion, now with 1 loss in his career.
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Yes, same here, I thought that there was a mistake when Jerusalem was put as a underdog against Collazo. But this Puerto Rican can bang and can take big shots as well and then throw his own. And that body shot that he gave to Melvin was too much to handle.

I do agree that he might be a good champion in this division and can defend the belts. It could be another Japanese, Filipino or Mexican though as they thrive on this smaller division but as you have said, the pay is not that good.

Yup, the very reason why fighter from this division continues to train well, they know that after given that opportunity to hype their name they can't stay forever as the paycheck is not as good compared to the higher division, only few sponsors and few promoters are sponsoring, if you really like to have more money you need to exceed and try to move up as soon as doors got open for you.

The higher the division you can go and win, the better compensations that you can take. Look at Pacquiao a living proof how boxing industry can bring millions or more if you are really good at this sport.
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This is for Filipino boxing fans in this forum.

Tomorrow, PH time, Melvin Jerusalem will make his first WBO minimumweight title against Puerto Rican Oscar Collazo.

What makes this fight interesting is that Jerusalem is placed as the underdog against Collazo, who by the way has only six fights as a pro boxer. On the interview, Jerusalem said that he is motivated by the underdog tag and I'll bite that  Grin, so I'm placing a bet for him ML @3.51. Hope he will retain the crown and continue the streak of upsets done by Filipino boxers.

Unfortunately, I have to be the breaker of this sad news, but Melvin Jerusalem lost the fight as he was stop in the 7th rounds by Collazo. Melvin did start great in the first four rounds, but it seems that Collazo is just taking his time and trying to read Melvin early.

As it become move evident that Collazo is the more powerful puncher between the two and for 3 1/2 rounds he started to battered our very own Melvin. And as tough as he is, Jerusalem says "no mas".

Sad day for Ph sports fans. Fil-am coach Erik Spoeltra's team, Miami Heat also lost. I also thought Jerusalem would successfully defend his belt but well, it is what it is.

Yes, I also on the bandwagon on Jerusalem, specially on how he won the belt from the Japanese and now defending it against Collazo from PR. But this Collazo is very good, I don't think that Melvin and his camp underestimated him,  but he was just too good and above the level of Jerusalem.

However, I think Jerusalem can still bounce back though in his career. I mean he can get back to the drawing board and see where he can improved. We all know that no amount of trainer can prepare you from body shot, but at least maybe if he can be taught how to protect his side it might be good for him in the future, just saying.
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This is for Filipino boxing fans in this forum.

Tomorrow, PH time, Melvin Jerusalem will make his first WBO minimumweight title against Puerto Rican Oscar Collazo.

What makes this fight interesting is that Jerusalem is placed as the underdog against Collazo, who by the way has only six fights as a pro boxer. On the interview, Jerusalem said that he is motivated by the underdog tag and I'll bite that  Grin, so I'm placing a bet for him ML @3.51. Hope he will retain the crown and continue the streak of upsets done by Filipino boxers.

Unfortunately, I have to be the breaker of this sad news, but Melvin Jerusalem lost the fight as he was stop in the 7th rounds by Collazo. Melvin did start great in the first four rounds, but it seems that Collazo is just taking his time and trying to read Melvin early.

As it become move evident that Collazo is the more powerful puncher between the two and for 3 1/2 rounds he started to battered our very own Melvin. And as tough as he is, Jerusalem says "no mas".
~snip~

Collazo on the other hand was tested right away when Golden Boy took him. He beat another Filipino, the battle-tested former WBO champion Vic Saludar and then went on to the eliminator before facing Jerusalem. Fun fact, Saludar also won the belt from a Japanese and then lost it also to a Puerto Rican who then lost his belt to a Japanese whom Jerusalem beat. So maybe the trend will repeat again. Cheesy

Yeah i saw the highlight of that fight where Vic Saludar knocked down the Puerto Rican fighter with that body shots and i thought that may Jerusalem could do more than that and maybe beat Oscar Collazo but things turned the other way around, and that's boxing, styles makes a fight.

TBH, this Oscar Collazo had some talent where i think that he could defend this belt for a long a time. Sad to say that there's not much interest in the boxing community in this weight category, i mean boxers in this division are paid way lower than their bigger counterparts.

Yes, same here, I thought that there was a mistake when Jerusalem was put as a underdog against Collazo. But this Puerto Rican can bang and can take big shots as well and then throw his own. And that body shot that he gave to Melvin was too much to handle.

I do agree that he might be a good champion in this division and can defend the belts. It could be another Japanese, Filipino or Mexican though as they thrive on this smaller division but as you have said, the pay is not that good.
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This is for Filipino boxing fans in this forum.

Tomorrow, PH time, Melvin Jerusalem will make his first WBO minimumweight title against Puerto Rican Oscar Collazo.

What makes this fight interesting is that Jerusalem is placed as the underdog against Collazo, who by the way has only six fights as a pro boxer. On the interview, Jerusalem said that he is motivated by the underdog tag and I'll bite that  Grin, so I'm placing a bet for him ML @3.51. Hope he will retain the crown and continue the streak of upsets done by Filipino boxers.

Unfortunately, I have to be the breaker of this sad news, but Melvin Jerusalem lost the fight as he was stop in the 7th rounds by Collazo. Melvin did start great in the first four rounds, but it seems that Collazo is just taking his time and trying to read Melvin early.

As it become move evident that Collazo is the more powerful puncher between the two and for 3 1/2 rounds he started to battered our very own Melvin. And as tough as he is, Jerusalem says "no mas".
~snip~

Collazo on the other hand was tested right away when Golden Boy took him. He beat another Filipino, the battle-tested former WBO champion Vic Saludar and then went on to the eliminator before facing Jerusalem. Fun fact, Saludar also won the belt from a Japanese and then lost it also to a Puerto Rican who then lost his belt to a Japanese whom Jerusalem beat. So maybe the trend will repeat again. Cheesy

Yeah i saw the highlight of that fight where Vic Saludar knocked down the Puerto Rican fighter with that body shots and i thought that may Jerusalem could do more than that and maybe beat Oscar Collazo but things turned the other way around, and that's boxing, styles makes a fight.

TBH, this Oscar Collazo had some talent where i think that he could defend this belt for a long a time. Sad to say that there's not much interest in the boxing community in this weight category, i mean boxers in this division are paid way lower than their bigger counterparts.
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A while ago a post was made regarding the Iranian hulk who was going to fight a match against Martyn ford. I notice that there is little interest on the forum. Does anyone have more information on this? Whether one of the 2 has really serious plans to fight with a career? I could understand it from the Iranian Hulk since he has no career at all. but Ford has an impressive acting career, you wouldn't want to risk that, would you? Incidentally, Badr Hari will also return to the ring in September. Time for revenge!
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This is for Filipino boxing fans in this forum.

Tomorrow, PH time, Melvin Jerusalem will make his first WBO minimumweight title against Puerto Rican Oscar Collazo.

What makes this fight interesting is that Jerusalem is placed as the underdog against Collazo, who by the way has only six fights as a pro boxer. On the interview, Jerusalem said that he is motivated by the underdog tag and I'll bite that  Grin, so I'm placing a bet for him ML @3.51. Hope he will retain the crown and continue the streak of upsets done by Filipino boxers.

Unfortunately, I have to be the breaker of this sad news, but Melvin Jerusalem lost the fight as he was stop in the 7th rounds by Collazo. Melvin did start great in the first four rounds, but it seems that Collazo is just taking his time and trying to read Melvin early.

As it become move evident that Collazo is the more powerful puncher between the two and for 3 1/2 rounds he started to battered our very own Melvin. And as tough as he is, Jerusalem says "no mas".

Well, at least our very own Melvin tried his best in defending his belt against the challenger but his time has come to give up his precious belt for the meantime but I think he will try to bounce back next time if he will have the chance to repeat the process. Overall, that is his 3rd defeat in his career but he's still young enough to do more fights and possibly be a champion again. Hopefully next time, fate will be on his side.
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