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Then it's a clear duck on the side of Canelo, I think he might have bite off more than you can chew on the first fight. He thought that it is going to be easy for him but they are all wrong. And now that we saw Canelo's performance against Ryder, that he might be in the decline so they don't want to fight Bivol at this point without getting another biggest rewards.

I can't recall what is the first split in the first fight, but this time, it could have been at least 50/50 for me.

So Canelo now is threading in a very thin line, it's either another Mexican in David Benavidez, or Bivol, or just take another easy fight, but for sure the fans wouldn't like that.

Might be because we never saw Magsayo's very best at the 126 due to some difficulty in getting in the right shape.

Also a timing that when he debut at 126, not just having trouble to get fit at 126 but also the first time to faced an opponent with the height and reach advantage over him, Rey Vargas. The same goes when he faced Brandon Figueroa next and lose.

Good decision to not forced his body to keep at the 126 contention and go straight to his comfort weight even the challenges here will be new. The same as what Casimero did in the 118 to 122 and now starting to climb the rank. Definitely, not a good idea for Magsayo to go straight against those top ranks. He can start with mid tier ranks first while adopting to the 130 environment.

With the reputation of MP Promotions, who is the promotional company for Magsayo, they has the ability to seal a deal for him against top ranked boxers at 130 right away but definitely rushing things might result on what happened to him same on his 126 journey.

Yup! It is unrecognizable, and I think both have the same stats and record the only edge for Kenji Fujita was Daniel Nicolas might have trouble adjusting to the Jetlag, the weather, and the time difference between Japan from the Philippines just like what happened to Melvin Jerusalem that he had a difficult time adjusting his sleep so he fights Oscar Collazo with sleep deprivation, how I wish the government will provide him support to went to Japan early for this fight, or maybe Daniel Nicolas could have already accustom with the time difference and weather of Japan, but let's wait for the fight,

Well, just like you I am also not familiar with those title belts but as long as there are belts I think it is a good opportunity for the Filipino fighter,


That is great news after that 2 consecutive losses Mark Magsayo hasn't given up yet, and I think he is now more mature and more motivated, I sure hope I am right because getting into a new division isn't really easy aswell, there are a lot of adjustments that needed to fill up, so it is not really easy,


Well just like you I am also hesitant but truly let's not judge him quickly, he hasn't shown what improvement he has after that 2 consecutive losses, I think he has realized something to move further ahead, and for this to his win in his debut to the new division I wish it can become a motivation for him,

Reading this reply makes me realized that one of the strategy of Filipino boxer to have an advantage against their opponent is squeezing them selves to lighter weight division so that their punches will have more sting against their opponent in exchange of their stamina.  No wonder most of the Filipino boxer ran out of gas at the later part of the fight.  It is somehow effective to less durable opponent but pose a problem when their opponent is a tougher one.

Magsayo's move to 130 lbs will enable him to have more stamina but the problem would be how effective his punches in his new division.  


I am somehow hesitant of Magsayo's skill but if he can still knock out his opponent then I think he can find his place in the 130 lbs.

From what I read, it seems that Canelo doesn't want a rematch with Bivol, that is according to Bivol's manager, because they are offering the same, maybe he is referring to the money. So obviously, Bivol is still the champ and has some leverage in this fight as he already beat Canelo soundly, without a doubt.

But if Canelo's camp is offering the same split, then Bivol and his camp has the right to demand for more money.

So it's a question why Canelo and his team is offering the same money in the rematch?

It's a tough list of champions to go to for Magsayo. But if he wanted to be a champion again, sooner or later he will have to face one of those and again it's going to be very difficult for him.

Hopefully though, 130 lbs will be his most comfortable weight, no more draining before the fight and he can eat and diet whatever he can. It was a tough lost against Figueroa but I do think it has something to do with the weight though. That's why at the end of the fight, he is somewhat spent and his gas tank is empty as it might affect his conditioning of trying to squeeze his body to 126 lbs.

Exactly if Canelo wants it, he can really agree to the weight. Otherwise itw will not happen. Its all up to him, achieving the weight is all he needs otherwise he will not ever get his revenge. He'd been to 175.

Benavidez will have to battle hard if they make this happen but all these fight talks in the future always have discussions over money. Rhey can make fights happen when money talks.

Crazy. Why would he do that? Even if he is one of the top in the market he could not just bail like that and try to be on vacation. According to reports he bought a penthouse in Baltimore and because of the piles of money he made with the Garcia versus Davis fight, he might be itching to use it and spend on vacation like a king. Well, he should try being a king behind bars now because of what he did. From a planned vacation to prison.
He is just giving himself more problems, now how he could train if there's a next fight that is coming, I bet he will rust for some time and they won't try to take any challenges unless it's WBA ordered.

Ryan Garcia seems to be dramatic too after his lost against Davis.
Here is what he said.
https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-tanks-team-cared-about-me-more-my-own-team-loss-it-worst--175053
What the heck! I think he is looking for someone to cling to after the loss someone to hug him and tell him everything is going to be okay. Baby.
Thankfully, he went back to being a man.

Mark Magsayo eyes September or October return in new division

Former WBC Featherweight Champion Mark Magsayo might return to the ring in September or October, and guess what, not in the 126 lbs division anymore as he seems struggling at that weight and loses twice here, against Rey Vargas and Brandon Figueroa. He will now move up to the 130 lbs division - Super Featherweight/Junior Lightweight.

The plan to move up was confirmed by MP Promotions President Sean Gibbons and Magsayo himself already tweet his desire regarding that.

Can Magsayo find his comfort zone now in the 130 lbs? The current champions here:

WBO: Emanuel Navarrete
IBF: Joe Cordina
WBA: Hector Luis Garcia
WBC: O'Shaquie Foster

A non-title bout that's why maybe it was unrecognized.

As per my research, it was PH Daniel Nicolas' first fight abroad while Japan's Fujita already pulverized and beaten two Filipinos in his career. Both are undefeated. They are fighting at the 125 lbs, close to the Featherweight Division.

Maybe these bouts are their stepping stones for those 4 major boxing organizations to recognize them and be ranked. Am I right there?

I'm not familiar with other title belts that these major organizations hold. For example:

World Boxing Organization (WBO) Oriental Youth Featherweight - Daniel Nicolas
World Boxing Council (WBC) Asian Silver super featherweight - Virgel Vitor (the next one to Nicolas that will have a match abroad)

Guys I think there is a fight right now without a fellow Filipino Boxer that is happening in Japan, I really wish that this fight will not be a terrible situation for him because he is fighting in another territory, but this fight is scheduledd now June 03, and the Filipino fighter was Daniel Nicolas that will be fighting on the Main Card, here are the whole fight

3rd Who's Next Dynamic Glove

Saturday 06.03.2023 at 07:00 AM ET
Promotion: Japan Boxing Commission
Venue: Korakuen Hall
Location: Tokyo, Japan



MAIN EVENT
Katsuya Yasuda VS Apichet Petchmanee

MAIN CARD
Kenji Fujita VS Daniel Nicolas
Katsuya Fukui VS Han Bin Suh
Asato Mori VS Mizuki Akima
Kota Matsuno VS Seeser Minagawa
Ryoto Yoshinari VS Shunsuke Mori
Yuzuki Yamamori VS Ataru Yamaga

All information was from TAPOLOGY: https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/101428-3rd-who-s-next-dynamic-glove

Indeed, he is now serving his jailtime in real jail unlike from what he have imagined after violating it.

Tank Davis Violates House Arrest, Taken Into Custody

He seems to be naïve about it instead of serving his 90-day house arrest properly and be sorry for what he did towards the family, he is already lucky to have a situation like that instead he still pushed his luck in going into his newly purchased multi-million dollar penthouse.

Gervonta Davis attempting to serve his house arrest at the four seasons and then deciding he’d rather go spend it at a multimillion dollar penthouse is wild to me. He was really thinking that he’d get to use his house arrest like a vacation and just serve it wherever. He can’t be surprised to be back in jail as a result. He’s totally insane.

On that note, if Canelo will agree to that secure money and manage to win against the aggressiveness of Benavidez, I'm sure he will be remembered as one of the toughest fighter and if after that fight he will climb back and call for a rematch against Bivol if by chance he won that time, then it will be added to his achievements.

The decision will be depends on how Canelo and his camp will secure his future career, knowing how strong and aggressive Benavidez was. I know for sure they will discuss and assess their chances.

I agree with that because for $50M Canelo will put all his effort for the match and he will try his best to win the fight against Benavidez. But, I still think that the guy won't be able to win this match because if he accepts the deal the match will be one of the most horrifying matches of the history. On the other hand if the guy still plays well against David Benavidez then he will be remembered for the victory over such a strong opponent.
 

Well, I think he will definitely start to re-think about his upcoming decisions because a $40-50 Million is already a huge paycheck and that is a guaranteed money. I don't know what's up with the Benavidez's camp for making this kind of offer but they truly have the balls and dedication for bringing this offer up just to give David the chance to fight Canelo in the same ring and a chance to be the new undisputed champion, and they seem confident about it too.

Fun fact:
https://firstsportz.com/boxing-canelo-alvarez-salary-what-is-the-legendary-boxers-biggest-paycheck/#:~:text=However%2C%20Alvarez's%20biggest%20rivalry%20made,he%20took%20home%20%2445%20million.

I think Canelo can accept both fight since Bivol's rematch will be possibly happen in Light Heavyweight divsions while Benavidez will be on 168 lbs ( super middle weight) I do not think that there wil be conflict of interest here since even if Canelo losses against Bivol, he still retain his belt since it is not staked on their fight @ light heavyweight division.  

In terms of profit, accepting both fights is very possible but obviously it depends on the promoter of Canelo if they will accept the offer of Benavidez.


This is an interesting fight, would Broner have this ring rust in their fight? It was more than two years since he last stepped on the ring. I find Broner a talented boxer but he became a joke after his first loss against Maidana by not accepting the judges' decision and keep on pushing and believing that he won the fight when it was very obvious that he lost it.

Two different fights will happen on June 3.

Claressa Shields versus Maricela Cornejo - WBF, WBA, WBO, and WBC Middleweight title match.
It will happen at Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, Michigan, USA
The fight can be watched on DAZN.

Adrien Broner versus Bill Hutchinson - Welterweight match
Miami, Florida.
Can be watched in PPV.
February 2021 is when Broner last fought and it was up against Jovanie Santiago. He won that fight with a unanimous decision, 12 rounds.

Pick your fight, I think both will be very entertaining. One women's fight with 4 titles on the line and the other fight, a boxer who came back from his deep rest, we don't know if he still has the moves but I think he will show some of his skills because he is aiming for the title again.

Most likely this is the case for most boxers nowadays and they don't want some glory or merit anymore they are always being practical not to give their competitors a chance to get their current popularity because if there are some nice offers out there but have major risk, they are avoiding it right away and in today's boxing, we only see a few who will take that offer without hesitations to prove himself that he can beat anybody just like what we have seen with the Garcia vs Davis fight, there was no drama, they quickly made it possible because they both took the risk and as we have seen, obviously Davis have the upper hand but Garcia took his chance anyway. that's the real boxer you have right there.

That sounds like a lot of money but i don't think Team Canelo would take that bait. Benavidez is a risky opponent for him at this stage of his career, he is getting older and with that lose some steps that Benavidez's camp might want to take advantage and if indeed they could get Canelo to fight them and beat him in the process then he could replace Canelo as Mexico's biggest star in boxing.

I think he would go for the rematch with Bivol at the LHW division after his fight with Ryder, not for the unification belt that he holds now as it would be a lose-lose situation for him if he do that.