Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 218. (Read 30515 times)

Yes, women's boxing existed already many many years ago. And they also have their own superstars that are also more popular than most champions in men's boxing. The current biggest networks are DAZN, PBC (thru Showtime, Fox), and ESPN. DAZN got Katie Taylor and ESPN got Mikaela Mayer as main event fighters. Although it is not as popular as men's boxing who's biggest superstars will compete as the world's highest-paid athletes just like Mayweather Jr. and Pacquiao. I think Canelo could take the highest-paid athlete this year if he didn't lose to Bivol. 

I like this fight because it's like 50/50 IMO. Although I don't consider them as serious world title contenders at this stage. The current world champions will easily destroy them.

I think there is already a Women's boxing division, and the recent fight if I am not wrong was Franchón Crews-Dezurn VS Elin Cederroos on April 30, 2022, you haven't seen it because I think men boxers are more popular than men that is why there are not so much exposure for the sports in woman division, and Franchón Crews-Dezurn is the Super middleweight WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO, title holder, and here is the LIST of woman who is currently holding a title belts


I am surprised after these two long rests from boxing I never thought that they still wants to continue their hold-up career, Adrien Broner after that fight with Pacquiao in 2019 had a long rest then comes back to fight Jovanie Santiago and won that fight, and after that an Omar Figueroa fight, if Adrien Broner won this fight I think we can surely say that this is his true comeback, While Omar Figueroa Sister was really legit hot, Omayra Liliane Figueroa surely has the body to die for and I will be expecting her to show up aswell on his Brother's fight, and this fight was set on August 20 on Florida, this could be a great fun fight to watch,


I can say he can be in perfect shape, but against a tough opponent it is unlikely for Manny Pacquiao to finish a KO/TKO like he used to, but yeah it is Manny Pacquiao who can fully understand his body and can have a say if he can still fight of not, and actually, it is good to retire with a winning record before a boxer retire but he can not push something if he can not really do it, but we can not know if this exhibition match is his conditioning for that 1 last fight,

It's hard to admit that fact that Manny can still be on the perfect shape if ever he takes a pro fight and assumes to win it.

The issue isn't all about money but just as said, about his winning retirement. It feels good when you're about to retire and your last match has won.

We don't know, but they're on this business for decades and understands it more and well than us.

In less than two weeks we can see a crossroad fight between former world champions Adrien Broner and Omar Figueroa. This should be fun to watch as both were entertaining fighters before. AB with his funny antics and trash talks while Figgy's hot sister might attend the press conference, weigh-in, and the fight. This may not be for world title contention but I felt this fight as more alluring than the fake fights of Jake Paul and Mayweather Sr.'s exhibition fights.     

from being a Manly sports , it became also for Women as boxing for women opened up and now here , as the pandemic closes money making for Boxing operators and management? they lure gamblers and fans in this kind of Funny exhibition games that for me isn't really caring for what boxing stands for as long as they are making money out of it.

I can feel your sentiment in this part mate and I agree and supporting your point .

Well Magsayo after the fight with Vargas, said that he had talked to Pacquiao about his retirement, Mark Magsayo really wants another 1 fight for his idol to take before retiring for good, surely Magsayo just wants Manny Pacquiao to have a winning record first before retiring but yes Manny Pacquiao really knows his body pretty well, if he can still fight or not that will be his decision to make, I think Magsayo really wants to see a final last fight for Manny Pacquiao which is not really OK in my opinion,

For me, he can take an exhibition match but to return in an actual boxing match I think if he can not make a KO/TKO win over his opponent anymore it is really time to let go, but for me taking an exhibition match and getting money at the same time is pretty much OK with me,


I think it is OK for Manny Pacquiao to fight anybody, at 1st I am having doubts about who Pacman is going to fight, after seeing how DK Yoo fight against Bradley Scott a former UFC fighter, it was really awful and there are people that are saying DK Yoo won that fight because he got on his back the judges, and the whole crowd was for him, I think this is something outrageous, do you really want to see Manny Pacquiao in the same situation as Bradley Scott? a legendary boxer hitting an amateur boxer, and doesn't have real fights for his level of boxing, but yes I know this is just for entertainment purposes, but we can not really relate to what we are talking about if we have different points of view,


Well, the fight is already in motion so I guess let us just wait for it what will happen to the fight, or is it going to be a pass or not, but I am still watching the fight just because I am curious about it,

Yes, in fact if one of the things for which Inoue has been on such a good streak is to be able to reach this boxer, however I think that the one who has to look for this fight the most is Butler, for me Inoue vs. Butler will be a fight very good if we leave the statistics aside, without taking into account that each one has more than the other, I would concentrate only on the level of pique there is to decide who can be the best, one defending and the other hungry for more victories, I would think that if this fight takes place, I would not lose it because it represents one of the fights that would generate the highest world rating, the promoters of these boxers must have future plans, they can get very good profit.



Although what they say makes a lot of sense, it's just an exhibition match, but we can't kill the illusion of what a fight is either, because even though it's an exhibition match, it should be taken similarly to how friendly soccer matches are played, that sometimes they are much harder than normal ones. I love that it's for a charity event, but they shouldn't lower the quality, because people still pay and want to see something that entertains them and makes them move emotions.

You don't mind at all that's why you didn't understand why others are against the worst exhibition matches The way you speak, it's clear you don't get the point of view of the real boxer's sentiment and real boxers' fan point of view. If exhibition matches are always welcome, why do you think there are lots of issues involved here?

If that's your view then I respect it of course but don't speak generally. If that's for a charity event, I will support it. If that's for entertainment only to make money, never mind.

Anyone on women's boxing? There is a unification fight at middleweight,

Claressa Shields vs Savannah Marshall:


https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/61979513

Here is the heated press conference:  Best Highlights from the Claressa Shields vs Savannah Marshall Press Conference | SEPT 10 ESPN+.

Current odds for this fight is: Shields 1.86, Marshall 1.84. So it's a very close odds so far, so I'm expecting this to be a great fight in O2 arena.

Take note that Marshall beat Shields during their amateur days so this might be a revenge storyline in this fight.

I don't mind as the main purpose is for entertainment or possibly a charity event.  It was announced beforehand so it is to the fans to watch it or not.  As you see, they have this exhibition matches because it sells, if it doesn't then we can't see anything like that in the boxing industry.

I understand your point and I do agree that it is better that way but I think I am more open to seeing different stuff than it should be  .  Variations as long as it doesn't harm anyone make the game more entertaining that is what I believe in.

He has to take back those expenditures that he got.

And that's why he has to take any fight that will pay him good cut no matter who the challenger is. This won't matter to him anymore despite his titles and records.

He's also getting older but still on the shape, so if there will ever be any match for him, that can be just like a match of pride and glory for the challenger.

From a standpoint of all the lower class here in the Philippines Manny Pacquiao was among them back in his younger life, and I think he doesn't want to go back to what he used to be, and I think in getting back all of the money he lost on his campaign, there is a lot of reason why and boxing is the only thing he knew that could bring food on their table, although he has a lot of business, endorsement advertisement, a gym he still is doing boxing or maybe he misses a fight inside the ring,

But for me DK Yoo is not a worthy opponent for Manny Pacquiao, I think Jake Paul could be a slight worthy than DK Yoo, but Jake Paul would not mess with a Manny Pacquiao just yet,


He really needs to pursue it before his age dwindles his speed and strength time is up to the essence he can not miss another opportunity and waste time on such controversial things he needs to move on for now, and stop waiting,

Magsayo really needs this loss and take it as an experience for him, and this loss could be a lit fire to spark further into moving forward for him and there is no better teacher in life than experience, and I think this loss can be a fuel for him to excel in what he is doing,


Donnie Nietes will have a fight this coming July 13, 2022, against Kazuto Ioka a defend the WBO junior-bantamweight title, Still Donnie Nietes got 3 more belts if he failed in defending this one, but his fight with Kazuto Ioka is an interesting one and anything can happen inside the ring, I really wish he can win a rematch against Kazuto Ioka,

Sad day for the Philippines as we now have no World Champions left after Mark Magsayo loses his WBC Featherweight title.

It's now Donnie Nietes who will have the chance to bring another title for the Philippines but now on his 40 years old and not the same during his prime.

Although seen as underdog, I hope Philippines will back again holding another world title.

Many professional boxers voiced out before about their concerns about boxing now associating with non-sense exhibition matches.

Of course, it's not wrong for having an exhibition match but for boxing enthusiasts, are you fine watching a true legendary boxer against a Youtuber?

We won't feel the disappointment of real boxing fans about this. Remember when Tyson was supposed to fight against one of the Paul brothers? If I remember it right, he said that it will be easy money for his opponent since it will be a drag on his popularity.

Actually, Pacquiao can come out of retirement and sanction his next fight as a professional one like Oscar DelaHoya did last year although it didn't happen because he contracted a Covid-19 virus. Much better to see it that way.

But yes, we are just here to give our own comments and if Pacquiao really wants to push on that exhibition match, then so be it.

anyway, it is not a professional fight but an exhibition fight only. so no big deal as there is no belt at stake. i do agree that many boxing fans want to see him inside the ring again. there are youngsters who want to see him one more time. give them what they want.
just take a look at those exhibition matches from wannabe boxers and they are generating huge money. what more from a real legend?

When Manny doesn't have a chance to win in the presidential election, then I really believe he will leave politics to return to a career in the world of boxing. However, he has popularity in boxing despite having announced his retirement but it doesn't matter if he breaks his word because he will be supported by many world boxing fans. I agree if there is a big offer for a rematch then there is no reason the two boxers turned down the offer after their last fight in 2015.

What is wrong with the exhibition matches?  It is there to provide entertainment to the boxing fan and possibly give the boxing fan another chance to have a glimpse of a legendary fighter before he fully hang his gloves.



I don't think it will ruin his legacy.  Besides, fans should be thankful that they are able to see the legend fighting once more.  We all know boxing isn't only sports but packaged with business.  Probably Manny's promoter receives a lot of requests about exhibition fights and decided to go on with it.

Does anyone know if the match between Martin Ford and the Iranian Hulk will go on again? I then kept an eye on it but could not find any odds for this bet. Good thing afterwards that the match was cancelled, because it seemed photoshopped! Now the match seems to have gone completely off schedule. Maybe interesting to see if Badr Hari will fight against Rico Verhoeven or Ben Jadik again? Those are nice 50-50 matches with decent value

We can't question Manny because he's now out of politics and he needs to make money again after losing the presidential election. There are really retirement announcements that could be broken for some reasons. Manny actually told everyone multiple times that he would have his last match but still had more. I guess as long as Manny still has the stamina to fight, he will never stop having matches.

He's indeed unlucky but he needed to face his consequence if he still wanted to get his name back at the top, it will be hard for sure because he is going to climb the ladder again and this time it will be in a different heavier division. He needs to get his career straight this year and have the fight before he waste another year of requesting and thinking his mistakes.
This got me thinking, if Magsayo and his camp really knows that it will give him this much struggle to reduce weight in bantamweight then they should have made a decision long ago because they literally wasted time and effort.