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This is a big piece of boxing history, a worn shorts by the Greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali has been auction with a staggering $6 million.

It is truly said that there is no price for the interest and people are willing to pay anything which is the belongings of their favorite players. Whoever gets it, it will be an incredible piece of sports memory, Muhammad Ali is undoubtedly one of the most iconic figures in boxing history.
Seeing the price of it as $6 Million, it shows how much value people place on items connected to such legendary athletes.

I never collected or showed any interest in collecting sports memorabilia myself nor do I have any favorite pieces related to sports history. The only reason is that these items are priced so high and that only you are extra rich and a millionaire can afford these masterpieces.
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I thought Boots is one of those fighters that will remain loyal and worships Al Haymon even if there are bigger offers outside. Well, at least he proved his loyalty in the past when he rejected the offer of Crawford for the WBO belt and then bark like a stupid dog when Crawford unified all the belts and clearly has no intention of remaining in the division.

Boots has the skills and power but he is untested. Eddie and DAZN have the deepest pockets in the sport while also partnered with Saudi Arabia. Maybe Crawford should vacate all the remaining belts now and let the young guns fight each other.

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Interesting development here, Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis Signs Multifight Promotional Deal With Matchroom

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Eddie Hearn and Matchroom have won the race to sign one of boxing’s hottest properties, as Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis has signed a multi-fight promotional deal in partnership with Boots Promotions.

https://www.boxingscene.com/jaron-boots-ennis-signs-multifight-promotional-deal-with-matchroom--182754

He held the IBF 147 lbs belt, however, Terrence Crawford said that he is not interested in fighting Ennis. Not that he duck him or what, but according to him, he is not a PPV star and it seems that Crawford after becoming a free agent, it just looking for big money fights.

We have to understand that Crawford himself is not a PPV attraction, so he'll need someone that is popular in order to ensure that the fight would sell. Crawford is even thinking of going up and fight Canelo as he know there's a lot of money to be made, so what happen to that plan, is he gonna pursue that or he was not serious when he made that statement?
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Interesting development here, Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis Signs Multifight Promotional Deal With Matchroom

https://www.boxingscene.com/jaron-boots-ennis-signs-multifight-promotional-deal-with-matchroom--182754

He held the IBF 147 lbs belt, however, Terrence Crawford said that he is not interested in fighting Ennis. Not that he duck him or what, but according to him, he is not a PPV star and it seems that Crawford after becoming a free agent, it just looking for big money fights.

I believe Ennis’ lawsuit, seeking to be released from his former promoter, has not been resolved. I wonder if there is some kind of deal that was made between the former promoter and Matchroom and the lawsuit will be dropped.

Ennis’ career has stagnated in recent years, so it was a good move to separate from NOW Boxing, Stephen Espinoza, and PBC. Matchroom and DAZN don’t have a great welterweight stable but he will at least remain active, and that could lead to some bigger fights eventually.
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Interesting development here, Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis Signs Multifight Promotional Deal With Matchroom

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Eddie Hearn and Matchroom have won the race to sign one of boxing’s hottest properties, as Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis has signed a multi-fight promotional deal in partnership with Boots Promotions.

https://www.boxingscene.com/jaron-boots-ennis-signs-multifight-promotional-deal-with-matchroom--182754

He held the IBF 147 lbs belt, however, Terrence Crawford said that he is not interested in fighting Ennis. Not that he duck him or what, but according to him, he is not a PPV star and it seems that Crawford after becoming a free agent, it just looking for big money fights.

Career wise it might be a good move for Ennis as Eddie Hearn can guide his career better as now he has the belt. And we have been waiting for him, Crawford and Spence to go and fight each other. Maybe this is a great time since Hearn is a good manager and maybe he can talk to this guys, offer them good money just for us fans to see this great fight.

But in any case there is no progress for this year, as this two will have a rematch or Crawford talking about a Canelo fight, and looking at the rankings, he could defend his belt to their #3 rank which is Cody Crowley just to get busy for this year.
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Interesting development here, Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis Signs Multifight Promotional Deal With Matchroom

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Eddie Hearn and Matchroom have won the race to sign one of boxing’s hottest properties, as Jaron ‘Boots’ Ennis has signed a multi-fight promotional deal in partnership with Boots Promotions.

https://www.boxingscene.com/jaron-boots-ennis-signs-multifight-promotional-deal-with-matchroom--182754

He held the IBF 147 lbs belt, however, Terrence Crawford said that he is not interested in fighting Ennis. Not that he duck him or what, but according to him, he is not a PPV star and it seems that Crawford after becoming a free agent, it just looking for big money fights.
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^^ Yes, that's something that Filipinos will be proud for putting it's name on boxing history for this great fight between two of the greatest heavyweight fighters of all time. I think that price will go up as many big boxing fans wanted to have that in their room and hang and be proud to let everyone see that they have it.

Not sure if this is one of the most expensive boxing memorabilia in recent years.

So just imagine like 50 years from now, those sign shorts of Manny Pacquiao and how much it will fetch,  Grin
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In boxing news,

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Shorts worn by Muhammad Ali in one of the greatest fights of all time could be auctioned off for up to $6million.

https://www.boxingscene.com/signed-muhammad-ali-fight-worn-shorts-from-thrilla-manilla-reach-6-million-auction--182589

This is a big piece of boxing history, a worn shorts by the Greatest of all time, Muhammad Ali has been auction with a staggering $6 million.



https://www.sothebys.com/en/articles/muhammad-ali-thrilla-in-manila-everlast-boxing-shorts

Lucky for the multi-millionaire who will get this piece of memorabilia and hopefully it will land on a real boxing fans.
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^ Interesting as well is the fight in the women's division, Seniesa & Valle. This is for the undisputed minimum belt. Both women make the weight, Seniesa Estrada 104.2 lbs vs. Yokasta Valle 104.3 lbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7KK9l_kdM

Here is the video where they exchanges not so pleasantries.

And as per the link given, both are in total shape.



And this lady put up a good fight as expected, it went to the distance though, as Seniesa Estrada outpoints Yokasta Valle, 97-93 from the 3 judges scoring at ring side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UAcmIJ2WvI

I agree with the winner here, as I have said, it's close by Estrada has more pop from his pump and good techniques throwing it. As compare to Valle who I think is just throwing everything and his punch doesn't have that snap that Estrada has.

Maybe we will see a rematch?
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129.6 - Wilson pounds and Valdez 129.7 pounds. Good to see that both make the weight without any problems.

This is going to be a great battle, this two doesn't back down from any challenge. It's going to be one of the best fights if they live up to the hype and both shows their warrior mentality.

In typical Valdez fashion the fight lived up to the hype and it was an exciting slugfest. Valdez with his experience proved to be the better fighter tonight, although he did have to take some damage. Valdez is champion once again, albeit an interim one, and will have the opportunity to make some intriguing matchups against some of the other belt holders. All the wars he’s been in have taken their toll but I think he still has enough to beat somebody like O’Shaquie Foster.

Still at awe at how Valdez can still fight like that throughout his career, it was really a brawl from round 1. Throwing heavy jabs and so Valdez face took most of the damage. But it's more of his heart that really keep him in this fight. He wanted to show to his fans that he can still become a champion even if it is just for a interim belt. But nevertheless having this belt he will have his chance against the regular belt holder.

Wilson might have to fight and go back in his Australia though to have some tune up. Fights that will give back his confidence again. His losses is very bad in the US though, but it was against a very tough Mexican brawler.
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129.6 - Wilson pounds and Valdez 129.7 pounds. Good to see that both make the weight without any problems.

This is going to be a great battle, this two doesn't back down from any challenge. It's going to be one of the best fights if they live up to the hype and both shows their warrior mentality.

In typical Valdez fashion the fight lived up to the hype and it was an exciting slugfest. Valdez with his experience proved to be the better fighter tonight, although he did have to take some damage. Valdez is champion once again, albeit an interim one, and will have the opportunity to make some intriguing matchups against some of the other belt holders. All the wars he’s been in have taken their toll but I think he still has enough to beat somebody like O’Shaquie Foster.

For Wilson, I can imagine the disappointment he feels. The last time he fought in Arizona the referee gave his opponent extra time to recover and this time around the fight was perhaps stopped prematurely. Wilson wasn’t showing much defense but Valdez was running out of gas and his punches were becoming less effective. With only a few seconds left in the round Wilson should have been given the opportunity to continue.

He was very emotional as he comeback to the same venue where he was destroyed not just physically, nut mentally as well when he lost against Navarette. So the same thing happen, he was crying but it is the opposite as he won this time against a very though opponent in Wilson.

So that extends him time in this division and not thinking about retirement. Because he admit that after that devastating lost against Naverette, he contemplating of hanging his gloves. But this is a great performance from him and at least 1-3 good fight or a big lost would really make Oscar Valdez retire because of the wear and tear.
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129.6 - Wilson pounds and Valdez 129.7 pounds. Good to see that both make the weight without any problems.

This is going to be a great battle, this two doesn't back down from any challenge. It's going to be one of the best fights if they live up to the hype and both shows their warrior mentality.

In typical Valdez fashion the fight lived up to the hype and it was an exciting slugfest. Valdez with his experience proved to be the better fighter tonight, although he did have to take some damage. Valdez is champion once again, albeit an interim one, and will have the opportunity to make some intriguing matchups against some of the other belt holders. All the wars he’s been in have taken their toll but I think he still has enough to beat somebody like O’Shaquie Foster.
Valdez can still pull the trigger, although I think this slugfest is going to add that wear and tear to his body, but he looks solid and this is a comeback fight for him. And it's tailor fight for his style as I don't think that Wilson has the power in this fight. I mean it does look like that he is just touching up Valdez and no power behind it. Not sure if it is just me or others saw it as well.

For Wilson, I can imagine the disappointment he feels. The last time he fought in Arizona the referee gave his opponent extra time to recover and this time around the fight was perhaps stopped prematurely. Wilson wasn’t showing much defense but Valdez was running out of gas and his punches were becoming less effective. With only a few seconds left in the round Wilson should have been given the opportunity to continue.
It's the right stoppage from the referee in my opinion. Wilson is hugging Valdez at the end of the round to save himself from getting knock down. The referee saw that Wilson is not defending himself and again, on the brink of going into the canvass. Wilson didn't argue when the referee hug him to stop and it seems that his corner too is about to throw the towel.
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129.6 - Wilson pounds and Valdez 129.7 pounds. Good to see that both make the weight without any problems.

This is going to be a great battle, this two doesn't back down from any challenge. It's going to be one of the best fights if they live up to the hype and both shows their warrior mentality.

In typical Valdez fashion the fight lived up to the hype and it was an exciting slugfest. Valdez with his experience proved to be the better fighter tonight, although he did have to take some damage. Valdez is champion once again, albeit an interim one, and will have the opportunity to make some intriguing matchups against some of the other belt holders. All the wars he’s been in have taken their toll but I think he still has enough to beat somebody like O’Shaquie Foster.

For Wilson, I can imagine the disappointment he feels. The last time he fought in Arizona the referee gave his opponent extra time to recover and this time around the fight was perhaps stopped prematurely. Wilson wasn’t showing much defense but Valdez was running out of gas and his punches were becoming less effective. With only a few seconds left in the round Wilson should have been given the opportunity to continue.

Yes, it was a war as what we have expected, and we all know that Valdez face is easily bloodied and this is what happens in this fight. But once he smells blood in round 7, he goes off and Wilson doesn't have the answer and the referee needs to stop the fight to save Wilson from further damage. So this is another fight that will go on typical Valdez fight, sure he it has taken another toll in his body, but a O’Shaquie Foster who is also a banger inside the ring will be a great fight. And now that Valdez has the interim belt, he has to defend it and looks like his motivation is back and we can see that he is all emotional post fight interview. Props to Wilson, but he feel short again in the US.
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129.6 - Wilson pounds and Valdez 129.7 pounds. Good to see that both make the weight without any problems.

This is going to be a great battle, this two doesn't back down from any challenge. It's going to be one of the best fights if they live up to the hype and both shows their warrior mentality.

In typical Valdez fashion the fight lived up to the hype and it was an exciting slugfest. Valdez with his experience proved to be the better fighter tonight, although he did have to take some damage. Valdez is champion once again, albeit an interim one, and will have the opportunity to make some intriguing matchups against some of the other belt holders. All the wars he’s been in have taken their toll but I think he still has enough to beat somebody like O’Shaquie Foster.

For Wilson, I can imagine the disappointment he feels. The last time he fought in Arizona the referee gave his opponent extra time to recover and this time around the fight was perhaps stopped prematurely. Wilson wasn’t showing much defense but Valdez was running out of gas and his punches were becoming less effective. With only a few seconds left in the round Wilson should have been given the opportunity to continue.
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^ Interesting as well is the fight in the women's division, Seniesa & Valle. This is for the undisputed minimum belt. Both women make the weight, Seniesa Estrada 104.2 lbs vs. Yokasta Valle 104.3 lbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z7KK9l_kdM

Here is the video where they exchanges not so pleasantries.

And as per the link given, both are in total shape.

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I saw this fight,

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/109506-valdez-vs-wilson



Specially Oscar Valdez vs Liam Wilson, although Wilson is 3:1 underdog in this fight, but I think this is going to be a war. Both fighters are bangers and doesn't hold up anything. I think this is going to be a war. Both are on a comeback trail and they know that their careers are on the line and whoever losses this fight might have to take a break in my opinion. Valdez is coming from a lost to Emmanuel Navarette, both of them actually lost to the champion.

And this is the video of the weigh-in:



129.6 - Wilson pounds and Valdez 129.7 pounds. Good to see that both make the weight without any problems.

This is going to be a great battle, this two doesn't back down from any challenge. It's going to be one of the best fights if they live up to the hype and both shows their warrior mentality.

Anyone bet on this fight?
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How do you interpret this post of Errol Spence?

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1771264339447599546

Is he leaving PBC or Derrick James? Seems to be a lot of meaning with this kind of post. Maybe he is also looking for a new house. Let's see, what can we get from this cryptic message.


His most recent tweet is a quote tweet simply stating “No” when asked if he is leaving PBC. There were other people asking about Derrick James but he didn’t answer that, so it could be he is looking for a new trainer. After his most recent loss I doubt promoters are jumping at the chance to sign him. PBC have some decent fighters at 154 and are paying him a lot so there’s not much of a reason to go to a new promoter.

Yeah, I think he will stick with PBC for now, and that is the best option for now. Matchroom doesn't have a solid welterweight to super welterweight and maybe Top Rank just have a fringe contender, that's it.

As for Derrick James as his trainer, I haven't seen him recently with Derrick and most likely his silence means that he might be shopping for a new trainer. It's just a question who fits his style and who's trainer can improved him against Crawford if ever they will have their rematch.

He's making money with PBC I'm also agree that he will stick with them, and without a title it's a tough call for him to change handlers, better to do that if ever he's thinking about it, win first and holds another belt/s maybe it will be a nice decision to make, but while you are still trying to bring that glory back staying with your current handler will give you that fighting chance to regain your position back, in terms of trainer maybe Derick silence is a key to specualte about that rumor post.

Maybe he's trying to shop around to find someone who can help him developed good fighting strategy either with Crawford or if not maybe to someone who can bring the hype back on his career.

He is still a former champion though, so he can still make fights under PBC. But it's hard to see whether he will stay at 147 lbs or move to 154 lbs. And it's like we are in the first quarter of month already and we don't know if he will rematch Crawford or not.

There is also news that Crawford is waiting for the Fundora vs Tsyzu winner. And if that happens this year then Crawford will be another champion at 154 lbs and maybe Spence will chase Crawford for that belt.
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How do you interpret this post of Errol Spence?



https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1771264339447599546

Is he leaving PBC or Derrick James? Seems to be a lot of meaning with this kind of post. Maybe he is also looking for a new house. Let's see, what can we get from this cryptic message.

I think it was Joshua that started this trend, when he lost he just look for new trainers. But then again, he is British fighter so he settled for Ben Davison and it was a success. The thing with Derrick James is that his fighters now are losing, Charlo and then Spence. And now that he also trains Ryan Garcia who has a fight with Haney and odds maker are putting his boy as the underdog.

But just the rest of you guys saw, Spence will not yet move out of PBC, well at least fighting Crawford for a rematch this year.

Derrick James has no champion in his gym at the moment. But he can put all his focus on Ryan Garcia. The problem though is that Ryan seems to be suffering from a mental illness and his fight with Haney can get cancelled anytime.

As for duck Spence, he is already successful in destroying Bud's 1 year. Crawford's turning 37 soon and once again he wasted another year to inactivity. He could've pursued a tune up at 154 when Spence activated the rematch clause but did not agree on the weight deal. Crawford already activated his right to become the WBO mandatory at 154 which means he could be facing the winner between WBO champ, Tszyu and Fondura.
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How do you interpret this post of Errol Spence?



https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1771264339447599546

Is he leaving PBC or Derrick James? Seems to be a lot of meaning with this kind of post. Maybe he is also looking for a new house. Let's see, what can we get from this cryptic message.

I think it was Joshua that started this trend, when he lost he just look for new trainers. But then again, he is British fighter so he settled for Ben Davison and it was a success. The thing with Derrick James is that his fighters now are losing, Charlo and then Spence. And now that he also trains Ryan Garcia who has a fight with Haney and odds maker are putting his boy as the underdog.

But just the rest of you guys saw, Spence will not yet move out of PBC, well at least fighting Crawford for a rematch this year.
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How do you interpret this post of Errol Spence?

https://twitter.com/ErrolSpenceJr/status/1771264339447599546

Is he leaving PBC or Derrick James? Seems to be a lot of meaning with this kind of post. Maybe he is also looking for a new house. Let's see, what can we get from this cryptic message.


His most recent tweet is a quote tweet simply stating “No” when asked if he is leaving PBC. There were other people asking about Derrick James but he didn’t answer that, so it could be he is looking for a new trainer. After his most recent loss I doubt promoters are jumping at the chance to sign him. PBC have some decent fighters at 154 and are paying him a lot so there’s not much of a reason to go to a new promoter.

Yeah, I think he will stick with PBC for now, and that is the best option for now. Matchroom doesn't have a solid welterweight to super welterweight and maybe Top Rank just have a fringe contender, that's it.

As for Derrick James as his trainer, I haven't seen him recently with Derrick and most likely his silence means that he might be shopping for a new trainer. It's just a question who fits his style and who's trainer can improved him against Crawford if ever they will have their rematch.

He's making money with PBC I'm also agree that he will stick with them, and without a title it's a tough call for him to change handlers, better to do that if ever he's thinking about it, win first and holds another belt/s maybe it will be a nice decision to make, but while you are still trying to bring that glory back staying with your current handler will give you that fighting chance to regain your position back, in terms of trainer maybe Derick silence is a key to specualte about that rumor post.

Maybe he's trying to shop around to find someone who can help him developed good fighting strategy either with Crawford or if not maybe to someone who can bring the hype back on his career.
I think it's normal though to switch trainer if the marriage is not working. I think Derrick James has been criticized during the fight for not giving Spence the correct advise during the fight. And perhaps Spence it as weakness of Derrick James. So I wouldn't be surprised if he get another solid trainer for him to prepare for a rematch. Same with AJ as he switches many times after his first lost to Andy Ruiz. Now look at what he did to Francis Ngannou. So for now it's perfect marriage for them. But if AJ losses against top boxers like Fury, he might look for another one. As for his contract with PBC, I do agree, there's no promotion that can give him the fight that he wanted. Maybe Eddie Hearn, but let's see.
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