^^ We will see about Canelo, we all know that he has full of pride, he bolted out of Golden Boy and up till now him and Oscar are still not seeing eye to eye. He had a huge contract before and then went to become a free agent or at least just signing for per fight basis with Eddie Hearn and other manager.
So I wouldn't be surprised if he is not on boat with HE Turki's plan and proposal with regards to boxing right now. It's good money though, but Canelo might think that he is already settled and so he is ok if Dana and Turki will exclude him on the plans to take over boxing in the next couple of years.
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^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362
And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.
So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.
Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362
And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.
So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.
Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.
I am very much quite certain that the roadmap of master Turki and uncle Dana will be a celebration on the greatness of the sport of boxing! Canelo might be angry, however, this is also a business. He cannot ignore the money to be created and the challenge of a superfight between him and Bud Crawford. I am quite certain Canelo speculates that he can have the victory against Bud.
Also, King Ry vs. Devin Haney is a certainty to be another fight that will be promoted and to occur in Saudi Arabia. What is the biggest holiday in Saudi Arabia?
^^ For me, there seems to be a beef between Canelo and HE Turki Alalshikh, so I doubt that he will ever fight in Saudi for now,
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362
And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.
So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.
Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1820700851528196362
And it all started when Turki criticized Canelo for not wanting to fight Benavidez, and so Canelo felt that he is being disrespected. Also he could really earn more if he will go under the banner, but for now, Canelo might be thinking that he is great than boxing itself as he is the cash cow.
So everything from what he had after a couple of months ago has taken shape already. So we might be looking for Beterbiev vs Bivol rematch. And obviously we will have the rematch as well between Usyk and Fury before the end of the year.
Haney's name is also mentioned, so who knows, after the Anpo vs Garcia fight, we might see them next year in Saudi too.
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Similar to what I have already mentioned on another boxing thread, King Ry's payperview will be more expensive because it will certainly have more demand than a championship fight with Tank Davis. We can clearly predict with confidence that every boxer near King Ry's weight division will certainly desire to challenge King Ry because he can gather much fans and much money in his fights.
Ryan is still one of the cash cow no matter what. He could be acting crazy and all of that stuff, but that's how the fans love him and so he can still bring fans on the seat in the arena or buy his PPV fights even if it is very expensive for casual fans.
I reckon that uncle Dana and the arab master Turki should offer something for King Ry to manage his career and leave Golden Boy. Terence Crawford appears that he will be under uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion that will be announced next year on January.
He has been seen in Saudi and for sure there are talks of him and the powerful broker. It's all about the money and so he might be offer money that he can't refuse. If I'm not mistaken, Crawford is under the banner of Turki already as a brand ambassador or something like that. So he is already with him, that's why we saw his reaction when Crawford had a hard time against Madrimov because the whole Alvarez vs Crawford might be in jeopardy if Crawford lost that fight.
Who has been in Saudi, uncle Dana or King Ry? We can be quite certain that uncle Dana will be spending much of his time with master Turki because they will be organizing their new company. However, if you are telling me that this is King Ry then this should be very much exciting for all types of boxing fans and also fans of sports because this will be something similar if Tom Brady was traded to the San Francisco 49ers during the season of 2020 heheehehhe.
It appears that it will not only be Bud vs. Canelo for uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion on 2025. They might also have a rematch for King Ry vs. Devin hehehehehe.
After Devin Haney posted on his X account "The game hasn't been the same...it's time for me to come back," he received a response from Turki Alalshikh, who is chairman of the General Authority for Entertainment by Royal Decree of the Royal Court of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and who has made a name for himself as a boxing promoter through Riyadh Season.
"Do your job, champ," Turki Alalshikh wrote to Haney, later adding that he was expected in Riyadh.
As someone who has shown in recent days to have no filter under any circumstances, Ryan Garcia took the opportunity to jump on the bandwagon and responded to the tweet to propose himself as the opponent for an eventual rematch.
"We can arrange it in Riyadh if you wish, Mr. Turki ", KingRy wrote, to then put himself at your command and accept any condition to take him into account: "I will do everything you ask me to do, including drug tests every day. So please, if you can, make it happen."
Read in full https://www.marca.com/en/boxing/2024/08/15/66be0abbca4741cd148b457b.html
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Similar to what I have already mentioned on another boxing thread, King Ry's payperview will be more expensive because it will certainly have more demand than a championship fight with Tank Davis. We can clearly predict with confidence that every boxer near King Ry's weight division will certainly desire to challenge King Ry because he can gather much fans and much money in his fights.
I reckon that uncle Dana and the arab master Turki should offer something for King Ry to manage his career and leave Golden Boy. Terence Crawford appears that he will be under uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion that will be announced next year on January.
Yeah, but HE Turki should know that Ryan has some attitude so before signing, their contract should be air tight, not like what he did against Golden Boy here but fighting this fight without notifying them, and it's obvious this is a breach of contract.
Of course, if he goes with the Saudi, me might see him fighting the best at 140 lbs to 147 lbs. And it's surprising although I reckon that this is the walking weight or at least this is how natural his body at 153 lbs and so him and Anpo agreed to this weight.
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Similar to what I have already mentioned on another boxing thread, King Ry's payperview will be more expensive because it will certainly have more demand than a championship fight with Tank Davis. We can clearly predict with confidence that every boxer near King Ry's weight division will certainly desire to challenge King Ry because he can gather much fans and much money in his fights.
Ryan is still one of the cash cow no matter what. He could be acting crazy and all of that stuff, but that's how the fans love him and so he can still bring fans on the seat in the arena or buy his PPV fights even if it is very expensive for casual fans.
I reckon that uncle Dana and the arab master Turki should offer something for King Ry to manage his career and leave Golden Boy. Terence Crawford appears that he will be under uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion that will be announced next year on January.
He has been seen in Saudi and for sure there are talks of him and the powerful broker. It's all about the money and so he might be offer money that he can't refuse. If I'm not mistaken, Crawford is under the banner of Turki already as a brand ambassador or something like that. So he is already with him, that's why we saw his reaction when Crawford had a hard time against Madrimov because the whole Alvarez vs Crawford might be in jeopardy if Crawford lost that fight.
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Similar to what I have already mentioned on another boxing thread, King Ry's payperview will be more expensive because it will certainly have more demand than a championship fight with Tank Davis. We can clearly predict with confidence that every boxer near King Ry's weight division will certainly desire to challenge King Ry because he can gather much fans and much money in his fights.
I reckon that uncle Dana and the arab master Turki should offer something for King Ry to manage his career and leave Golden Boy. Terence Crawford appears that he will be under uncle Dana and master Turki's new boxing promotion that will be announced next year on January.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Maybe he just realized that there's more money into these special and exhibition matches. He's still young but he probably realized that this is way better to become richer for the next years to come.Yes, Paul vs Tyson has set the another precedence in exhibitions fights and so for sure there are boxers or any athlete for that matter that are going to be interested in exhibition fights as there are a lot of money to be made.
Once he's done with this match then he'd prolly talk with Jake to fight and get a hype of them.
Getting advertised and PPV with Netflix certainly gives them more money aside from the signing of contract and actual agreement.
Getting advertised and PPV with Netflix certainly gives them more money aside from the signing of contract and actual agreement.
It could be another hit for Jake Paul, but if we are talking about weight classes, Jake is HW, while Ryan is Jr. Welter/Welterweight. Unless they decided to go on a catchweight, Ryan going up in weight and then Jake Paul going down. Everything can be set up if we talk about huge money here, hehehe.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Maybe he just realized that there's more money into these special and exhibition matches. He's still young but he probably realized that this is way better to become richer for the next years to come.Yes, Paul vs Tyson has set the another precedence in exhibitions fights and so for sure there are boxers or any athlete for that matter that are going to be interested in exhibition fights as there are a lot of money to be made.
Once he's done with this match then he'd prolly talk with Jake to fight and get a hype of them.
Getting advertised and PPV with Netflix certainly gives them more money aside from the signing of contract and actual agreement.
Getting advertised and PPV with Netflix certainly gives them more money aside from the signing of contract and actual agreement.
It could be another hit for Jake Paul, but if we are talking about weight classes, Jake is HW, while Ryan is Jr. Welter/Welterweight. Unless they decided to go on a catchweight, Ryan going up in weight and then Jake Paul going down. Everything can be set up if we talk about huge money here, hehehe.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Maybe he just realized that there's more money into these special and exhibition matches. He's still young but he probably realized that this is way better to become richer for the next years to come.Once he's done with this match then he'd prolly talk with Jake to fight and get a hype of them.
Getting advertised and PPV with Netflix certainly gives them more money aside from the signing of contract and actual agreement.
Ha! They can't just let Ryan go fade. The kid is just more than meets the eye they have to put him back to the ring. But this is certainly a cross fight, not so different from exhibition however its not hard to promote since the kid is very popular.
Yes, as much as we hate Ryan, there could be fans who doesn't like his personality, but then buy tickets to watch him, Lol. I guess that's the power of his social media and his antics outside of the ring. But him going on to make a comeback and it's a exhibition fights? Gonna be a disappointing for most of us as we are waiting for him to fight another great boxer at either 140 or 147 lbs.This is the trend now though. Fury vs Till is much like what Jake had started. Till is not as good as he thought, he been out in UFC for 2 years and of all opponents to choose is the real boxer. He has the slimmest chance to win.
But it's hard to follow that Jake started though, yeah, sure Darren Till has hype the fight with his trash talking of the Fury's, but it's not enough for fans though. But let's see, we already seen what exhibition fights can bring to us and the money that it can generate, so maybe this could be a interesting match up to watch.
Ha! They can't just let Ryan go fade. The kid is just more than meets the eye they have to put him back to the ring. But this is certainly a cross fight, not so different from exhibition however its not hard to promote since the kid is very popular.
This is the trend now though. Fury vs Till is much like what Jake had started. Till is not as good as he thought, he been out in UFC for 2 years and of all opponents to choose is the real boxer. He has the slimmest chance to win.
This is the trend now though. Fury vs Till is much like what Jake had started. Till is not as good as he thought, he been out in UFC for 2 years and of all opponents to choose is the real boxer. He has the slimmest chance to win.
Darren Till vs Tommy Fury,
The fight is on January 18, but here in the press conference, it looks like everything was blown out of proportion. But we all know that this is just a promotion to hype the fight. Specially after the Tyson vs Paul fight, they have set the tone of this kind of exhibition fights.
They need to hype and promote the fight to get it to sell and generate money and this what both of this personalities is doing.
The Tyson vs Paul fight has given the promoter and Netflix a lot of advantages, so it's no surprise that they did the same ahead of the fight between Darren and Fury later, I think the massive promotion is indeed an integral part of the exhibition fight, by creating new hype to grab the attention of the audience and ensure the fight is a commercial success later, So it's no different from Tyson and Paul who continue to launch psywars, of course Darren and Fury also use a strategy that seems aggressive to arouse public curiosity to watch the fight later. The fight is on January 18, but here in the press conference, it looks like everything was blown out of proportion. But we all know that this is just a promotion to hype the fight. Specially after the Tyson vs Paul fight, they have set the tone of this kind of exhibition fights.
They need to hype and promote the fight to get it to sell and generate money and this what both of this personalities is doing.
^^ Well first thing that I noticed is that Darren is not intimidated by the Fury's.
He has the balls and give them a taste of their own medicine but talking shit about them, specially the career of John that's why he was fuming mad.
Second, this is really funny, “No one’s seen you since Usyk bladdered Tyson, where’ve you been ?” Lol.
So I guess this will be personal, and Tom should be ready here to take that head off of Darren. Another thing, Darren's accent though is funny, (no offense to everyone here!!).
He has the balls and give them a taste of their own medicine but talking shit about them, specially the career of John that's why he was fuming mad.
Second, this is really funny, “No one’s seen you since Usyk bladdered Tyson, where’ve you been ?” Lol.
So I guess this will be personal, and Tom should be ready here to take that head off of Darren. Another thing, Darren's accent though is funny, (no offense to everyone here!!).
Darren Till vs Tommy Fury,
The fight is on January 18, but here in the press conference, it looks like everything was blown out of proportion. But we all know that this is just a promotion to hype the fight. Specially after the Tyson vs Paul fight, they have set the tone of this kind of exhibition fights.
They need to hype and promote the fight to get it to sell and generate money and this what both of this personalities is doing.
The fight is on January 18, but here in the press conference, it looks like everything was blown out of proportion. But we all know that this is just a promotion to hype the fight. Specially after the Tyson vs Paul fight, they have set the tone of this kind of exhibition fights.
They need to hype and promote the fight to get it to sell and generate money and this what both of this personalities is doing.
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
His next fight has already been announced. It will be against Manny Pacquiao’s former opponent Rukiya Anpo. The crazy thing is that the PPV price for this exhibition will be more expensive than the Usyk vs. Fury rematch.
It is a decent stay busy fight for Ryan, but I am not sure that he is serious enough to return to real boxing. His only goal is to make a lot of money as an influencer and that is why he is chasing the Jake Paul fight.
Usyk vs Fury
This big fight doesn't feel any closer and of course we can witness the real heavyweight king, quite curious about the results later whether Usyk will really defend the undisputed title that he previously managed to get by defeating Fury or Fury will win it back.
What is clear from various interviews and news shows Fury confidence to be able to win, this will be etched in history for truly dramatic heavyweight fight, what about you predictions whether Fury can win the title or he must experience another defeat from Usyk.
This big fight doesn't feel any closer and of course we can witness the real heavyweight king, quite curious about the results later whether Usyk will really defend the undisputed title that he previously managed to get by defeating Fury or Fury will win it back.
What is clear from various interviews and news shows Fury confidence to be able to win, this will be etched in history for truly dramatic heavyweight fight, what about you predictions whether Fury can win the title or he must experience another defeat from Usyk.
We already have a separate thread on that, https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/poll-the-unification-fight-fury-vs-usyk-17th-february-2024-5469328 by @JollyGood.
And as early as today, there are reports that once Ryan get over that one year ban on his head, he will go back but it will be in a exhibition fights, hmmm. Sound familiar but who could be his opponents though? either of the Paul Brothers for a cool $20 million start?
But he is at welterweight, meaning just 147 lbs, but the Paul Brothers are huge guys, and fighting around super middle-weight.
I still like Ryan having a rematch which Devin Haney, that could really be entertaining and can generate huge money between them.
Usyk vs Fury
This big fight doesn't feel any closer and of course we can witness the real heavyweight king, quite curious about the results later whether Usyk will really defend the undisputed title that he previously managed to get by defeating Fury or Fury will win it back.
What is clear from various interviews and news shows Fury confidence to be able to win, this will be etched in history for truly dramatic heavyweight fight, what about you predictions whether Fury can win the title or he must experience another defeat from Usyk.
This big fight doesn't feel any closer and of course we can witness the real heavyweight king, quite curious about the results later whether Usyk will really defend the undisputed title that he previously managed to get by defeating Fury or Fury will win it back.
What is clear from various interviews and news shows Fury confidence to be able to win, this will be etched in history for truly dramatic heavyweight fight, what about you predictions whether Fury can win the title or he must experience another defeat from Usyk.
Yup, better to wait for his time, if he pushed things out he might lose and regrets things, he can continue enjoying his fame and dominance on his current division and jump up when the time he already got everything he needs especially his experience facing strong opponents, he needs those kind of fights before challenging either Nakatani or Inoue, just continue increase his worth that's the wise decision both career and money wise.
Interestingly, Rodriguez is ranked higher on The Ring and ESPN’s pound for pound lists than Nakatani. Inoue is already in his early thirties. The best time to make either of these fights would be in the next year or two, when they are still in their prime. Bam might be young but that doesn’t mean he isn’t ready to take the biggest challenges. Inoue might be considered the better fighter but I don’t think that fight would be a blowout. If he was competitive and the fight goes the distance, his stock would go up even in a loss.
That's a good opinion, though I do have a different view but yes why not if he and his camp is willing to take that step for his career, it's always an open opportunity that might happen if either Inoue or Nakatani accept that challenge, like what you said he might be young but it's true that the eagerness inside him can be fuel up when one of these two champs gives him that fight.
Though most of the handlers are not into this kind of risk as they value the money more than anything, if they see big risk they might not take that path and will just continue where they are getting decent opportunity.
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