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Quote from: Dave1 on January 21, 2025, 11:08:25 PM

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I just looked into it and it is true that Turki has prepared some fights and Romero himself was previously the WBA junior welterweight title holder, but I think it is still too early to be able to beat Ryan Garcia, I don't know what Turki goals is for this fight he is planning and there must be certain goals and I sure it is not for money.
On the other hand, Haney who was rumored to fight Ryan Garcia also got fight against Jose Ramirez, from these two fights it seems that Haney vs Jose Ramirez will be much more interesting than Garcia vs Romero.

His goal is for this two to set up a huge fight, but first they will have to go to a tune fight, with Ryan fighting Rolly Romero and then it was reported that Haney will be fighting former champion Ramirez.

So it's a double header, and if they win their respective fight then it's all go for Haney vs Garcia II. Obviously there are big risk as Ryan will have to go against a very hard nose fighter in Pitbull and he is pure offense.

On Haney's side, he will have to fight it out against a former 2 belt champion in Ramirez. And he also has be battles the mental demons of losing to Ryan Garcia and going down in canvass several times.

There is just risk from this fight, if Haney or Garcia have problems like injuries then it will clearly be very detrimental even though both are unlikely to experience something like that, what is clear is that after this fight both will have more emotions to meet soon and we will see fairly heated hype between Haney vs Garcia in the future.
Turki really made crazy card and in the rematch later what do you think whether Haney or Garcia will get the victory but for their fight hopefully there will be no drama that will happen and in the fight against Romero Garcia can be used as warm-up after receiving one-year ban.

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Quote from: Jating on January 22, 2025, 05:21:31 AM

For all Keith Thurman fans, he will have his comeback fight but it's not what we expected though, I mean he will be fighting a Australian, and his name his Brock Jarvis.

So let's see if he still has it, he said that he has been out for 3 years, but he still have it as what he says. Obviously, he wants a less risk as his comeback fight. However, ring rust will definitely has a negative effect on him.

It's March 12, remember though that this fight is in Australia, and we all know that they have history of home cook decision.

You gonna love those big mouth of Keith Thurman though.

Yup, we all know how they play their game in terms of making decision, he needs to make sure that he got a big edge or if he can KO his opponents then it's much better to secure the win. Might be possible that the fight will be more interesting as Thurman needs that KO to secure the win though surely on his opponent's side it's a pride fighting in front of his own crowd he'll do his best to bring his name up.

Let see if what Thurman and Jarvis will offer to viewers and gamblers that will watch and bets on their upcoming fights..

I do agree that this somewhat is a very surprising fight for Thurman and I thought that he had retire for good as he was not the same in terms of mindset and his body is giving out already with multiple injuries if I'm not mistaken. Although we can give it up to him for running his mouth and really know how to promote the fight. We would forget how he describe Pacquiao back then, that Manny has short limbs and compare it to T-Rex, lol. But that short hand knock him down and defeated him. So I do not think that even if he wins here, he will suddenly be back in the action at this division. But I wouldn't be surprised if he is going to lose this one as again, he doesn't have the fire inside of him, and what will motivate him to go back again in the ring as his age?

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Quote from: Fredomago on January 22, 2025, 06:02:36 AM

Quote from: Jating on January 22, 2025, 05:21:31 AM

For all Keith Thurman fans, he will have his comeback fight but it's not what we expected though, I mean he will be fighting a Australian, and his name his Brock Jarvis.

So let's see if he still has it, he said that he has been out for 3 years, but he still have it as what he says. Obviously, he wants a less risk as his comeback fight. However, ring rust will definitely has a negative effect on him.

It's March 12, remember though that this fight is in Australia, and we all know that they have history of home cook decision.

You gonna love those big mouth of Keith Thurman though.

Yup, we all know how they play their game in terms of making decision, he needs to make sure that he got a big edge or if he can KO his opponents then it's much better to secure the win. Might be possible that the fight will be more interesting as Thurman needs that KO to secure the win though surely on his opponent's side it's a pride fighting in front of his own crowd he'll do his best to bring his name up.

Let see if what Thurman and Jarvis will offer to viewers and gamblers that will watch and bets on their upcoming fights..

I think Thurman is done already, not sure why he made a comeback after 3 years, maybe he still has a fight in his contract or whatever. But I think he doesn't have it anymore and being content behind the scene like being a boxing analyst because of knows how to talk. And probably one of the boxers that Pacquiao destroyed for good and took his soul after he beat him. Similar to Ricky Hatton or worst Antonio Margarito who is never the same again after Pacquiao humble them.

Probably a good payday for him to go to Australia and fight Brock Jarvis. But this could be his last fight if Brock will put up a show and destroy Thurman here. Keith might have that power, but if he is rusty because of his long layoff, I doubt that it will just suddenly came back to him.

And the landscape of 140 lbs has really change since Keith has left.

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Quote from: Jating on January 22, 2025, 05:21:31 AM

For all Keith Thurman fans, he will have his comeback fight but it's not what we expected though, I mean he will be fighting a Australian, and his name his Brock Jarvis.

So let's see if he still has it, he said that he has been out for 3 years, but he still have it as what he says. Obviously, he wants a less risk as his comeback fight. However, ring rust will definitely has a negative effect on him.

It's March 12, remember though that this fight is in Australia, and we all know that they have history of home cook decision.

You gonna love those big mouth of Keith Thurman though.

Yup, we all know how they play their game in terms of making decision, he needs to make sure that he got a big edge or if he can KO his opponents then it's much better to secure the win. Might be possible that the fight will be more interesting as Thurman needs that KO to secure the win though surely on his opponent's side it's a pride fighting in front of his own crowd he'll do his best to bring his name up.

Let see if what Thurman and Jarvis will offer to viewers and gamblers that will watch and bets on their upcoming fights..

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For all Keith Thurman fans, he will have his comeback fight but it's not what we expected though, I mean he will be fighting a Australian, and his name his Brock Jarvis.

So let's see if he still has it, he said that he has been out for 3 years, but he still have it as what he says. Obviously, he wants a less risk as his comeback fight. However, ring rust will definitely has a negative effect on him.

It's March 12, remember though that this fight is in Australia, and we all know that they have history of home cook decision.

You gonna love those big mouth of Keith Thurman though.

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^^ I think it's a wise move by Turki himself to allow Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney to have a tune up fight first,

https://x.com/ESPNRingside/status/1881825337354420735

Although I also though that it will be Pitbull Isaac Cruz initially for Ryan Garcia. But I guess the risk is very high for him to fight a bigger puncher in Cruz and that's why they settle for a punching bag like Rolly Romero. Who still I think can bring more in the fight as well as he loves to trash talk and it's going to be funny to see this two in the face off talking trash against each other.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on January 20, 2025, 11:39:44 PM

Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 20, 2025, 08:31:14 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 20, 2025, 04:08:04 AM

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Turki just announced that Ryan will be fighting Rolly Romero. I thought Pitbull would have been competitive against Ryan, but they have chosen a much easier opponent instead. I don’t know if it was because of the weight they would be fighting at or if they didn’t want Pitbull to derail Haney vs. Garcia, but they have switched opponent.

Rolly has never been a good fighter and I don’t expect him to be competitive, unless he can land a lucky punch with his reckless fighting style. Both fighters are mentally unstable so the build up will be interesting to follow. The card overall is very good with Haney fighting in the co-main against Jose Ramirez and Martin Bakole fighting Efe Ajagba in a heavyweight eliminator.

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https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1881487525597925797

I just looked into it and it is true that Turki has prepared some fights and Romero himself was previously the WBA junior welterweight title holder, but I think it is still too early to be able to beat Ryan Garcia, I don't know what Turki goals is for this fight he is planning and there must be certain goals and I sure it is not for money.
On the other hand, Haney who was rumored to fight Ryan Garcia also got fight against Jose Ramirez, from these two fights it seems that Haney vs Jose Ramirez will be much more interesting than Garcia vs Romero.

His goal is for this two to set up a huge fight, but first they will have to go to a tune fight, with Ryan fighting Rolly Romero and then it was reported that Haney will be fighting former champion Ramirez.

So it's a double header, and if they win their respective fight then it's all go for Haney vs Garcia II. Obviously there are big risk as Ryan will have to go against a very hard nose fighter in Pitbull and he is pure offense.

On Haney's side, he will have to fight it out against a former 2 belt champion in Ramirez. And he also has be battles the mental demons of losing to Ryan Garcia and going down in canvass several times.

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I just spoke of a possible Ryan Garcia vs Teo Lopez fight this year, however, it seems that Ryan will have rematch with Devin Haney,

Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney on the brink of a deal for trilogy series

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The fighters have already signed off on a non-binding memo of deal points crafted by Saudi Arabia’s events company Sela.

The top priority to move things forward now is for Garcia to enroll in a more than year-long comprehensive drug testing program supervised by an agency he has often criticized, the Nevada-based Voluntary Anti-Doping Association.

Believing that Garcia will do so, Haney had his attorney move Wednesday to put a 90-day hold on Haney’s multi-million-dollar lawsuit against Garcia that alleged battery, among other claims, connected to the dispute over their prior bout.

So not just for the rematch, but they are talking about a possible third fight.

There is a condition though, but if they really wanted to settle their differences inside the ring and at the same time makes a lot of money because again, the powerful Saudi broker will be in the middle, then this fight is going to be made this year.

Ryan Garcia is expected to return this May, but it will be against Pitbull Cruz,

https://x.com/RyanGarcia/status/1880355301653991498

And if everything goes as play, then him and Haney will be setup in October. Also reported is Haney going to fight Ramirez.

So it's going to be big for this two, a Garcia vs Haney rematch and possible trilogy if Haney wins the second fight.

I very much like this fight and King Ry also knows what type of opponent to choose heheheh. I reckon this fight will be on a catchweight? We have witnessed already that King Ry has much difficulties on reducing his weight to 135 and 140 pounds.

In any case, Pitbull's tactic is very much similar to Mike Tyson, however, this is without the footwork and Mike Tyson's head movement. We can be quite certain that the left hook of King Ry will punch Pitbull's jaw and give him a knock out heheheh.

I don't know if this is going to be in catch weight or not, but as you have said, Ryan Garcia has shows that he has problems making 140 lbs, so let's see. Who knows, there could be rehydration clause and what's not on this fight. But still a good fight, we all know that style makes fight and so I think Pitbull head movement could pose a problem on Ryan early.

Yeah, it will really be a challenge for Ryan here, but Pitbull is small so that might be Ryan's advantage as he will target a smaller but moving boxer. An sooner or later he will caught him, and maybe we can see a knockout or stoppage win for Ryan if he timed Pitbull's in and out movement.

I am very much quite certain that King Ry will not agree to another rehydration clause again after his experience on the fight against the scammer Tank Davis. This will be on 140 pounds without rehydration clause or a catchweight also without a rehydration clause. King Ry after his victory against Devin Haney will be on the higher side of the negotiation table.

On Pitbull, he is not small. He is only short, however, his body has much muscles that are bigger that King Ry's muscles. Pitbull will be very certainly appear similar to Mike Tyson on catchweight. I speculate that King Ry is also having an expectation that Pitbull will be slower on catchweight. This will be easier to punch his jaw with King Ry's left hook.

Yeah, he could be the A-side on every fight moving forward, although he has no belt around him, he usually has a lot of fans that can go and willing to purchase expensive tickets or buy his PPV just to watch Ryan fight.

Pitbull body frame is very much different, but I think he can still squeeze that 140 lbs on his body. And it will be like a target practice for Ryan here, or we might see a display of his hand speed once again. So probably the strategy is to let Pitbull come inside and then Ryan will time him going and catch with that left hook of his. That is the main weapon of Ryan. Although he might have to be very careful of the overhand right of Pitbull as he might be caught by surprise by the power of Isaac Cruz.

And there should be no catchweight, 140 lbs it is.

The championship is very much needed for those boxers who do not have a big name to collect a bigger purse than what they will be receiving without a championship. There are also those boxers who need an undefeated record to collect a bigger purse very much similar to the scammer Tank Davis. If this boxer is knocked out by King Ry and thrown on a stretcher, we can very much be certain that his purse will go down.

On King Ry, he has become a boxer who does not need a belt or an undefeated record to receive a bigger purse. He has certainly become someone similar to Conor Gregor.

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Quote from: FinneysTrueVision on January 20, 2025, 08:31:14 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on January 20, 2025, 04:08:04 AM

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Turki just announced that Ryan will be fighting Rolly Romero. I thought Pitbull would have been competitive against Ryan, but they have chosen a much easier opponent instead. I don’t know if it was because of the weight they would be fighting at or if they didn’t want Pitbull to derail Haney vs. Garcia, but they have switched opponent.

Rolly has never been a good fighter and I don’t expect him to be competitive, unless he can land a lucky punch with his reckless fighting style. Both fighters are mentally unstable so the build up will be interesting to follow. The card overall is very good with Haney fighting in the co-main against Jose Ramirez and Martin Bakole fighting Efe Ajagba in a heavyweight eliminator.

source:
https://x.com/Turki_alalshikh/status/1881487525597925797

I just looked into it and it is true that Turki has prepared some fights and Romero himself was previously the WBA junior welterweight title holder, but I think it is still too early to be able to beat Ryan Garcia, I don't know what Turki goals is for this fight he is planning and there must be certain goals and I sure it is not for money.
On the other hand, Haney who was rumored to fight Ryan Garcia also got fight against Jose Ramirez, from these two fights it seems that Haney vs Jose Ramirez will be much more interesting than Garcia vs Romero.

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