Topic: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions - page 3. (Read 27976 times)

@5.10... He was underestimated for sure? This looks like a similar odds on Haney vs Garcia fight but as we all know, there was a big upset happen in that fight as Garcia came to dominate Haney. Not sure if it could happen here but we all know that anything is possible in boxing. I hope I can see a knockout, it's always entertaining to see one, and since Jaime Munguia is still undefeated and has a decent KO rate, it should not be impossible for him to knockout Canelo.

I don't want to think that there is blood bath between Canelo and Oscar. I think both has move on and Oscar is still making a lot of money from his other boxers. Maybe it's just the media that wanted to put a spin on all of this to hype the fight.

Definitely, if Munguia wins then Oscar will be in heaven as two of his boxers won as biggest underdogs and Munguia becoming the next Mexican superstars. While Garcia can move up to 147 lbs and then chase bigger names and again, make a lot of money for this year alone.

For the odds, I see that the odds maker make it right and didn't underestimate Jaime.

Well, in the boxing industry, it's not new for us that the referees are also involved in helping the boxer they want to win and it happens a lot, from slow counting, to not calling a foul and deducting points for whoever boxer they are helping with and this time, it's clearly that they also helping Haney to win against Garcia but they failed to do so because Garcia Stunned him throughout the rounds and he can't do anything about it despite the ref has helped him in anyway shape or form that are not obvious to the other newbies. That's why, underdogs are always working harder to knock out their opponents especially when they fight on their opponent's territory. Have you guys seen the worst ref ever? it happened in Nigeria, I forgot the title though you can search for it.

No it's not a misplaced on the part of sport bookies, Munguia is young and has the power, but Canelo has the experience and the quality of the opponents that Canelo has face before. Imagine a GGG vs Munguia, who do you think will win in that fight. The Canelo vs Bivol is different though, Canelo is going up in weight at 175 and we can see that somewhat, the extra poundage in his body makes him slow and that is not his weight class. As here, he is the undisputed in this SMW and no one has beaten him here. And so that is a big task for the young Jaime Munguia. But who knows, if Ryan can do it, then there is a chance for Munguia as well. And if that happens, then it will be 2-0 for Golden Boy in high profile fights. And for sure, Oscar will be happy to get his revenge from Canelo himself.

The odds seem very fair. Similar to Garcia vs. Haney, there is a significant disparity in skill level. Munguia is a big puncher so we can’t completely count him out. Unlike Haney, Canelo has knockout power and can also take a punch. Munguia won’t be able to just impose his will by charging directly at Canelo. This will be a fight where Canelo’s higher IQ should make the difference.

He didn't train well and relied on his defense but it wasn't enough since Ryan was the one who train to improve his skills and learn new moves to counter his defense which was exactly what happened in their fight. He slack off thinking that he can just easily beat him like his first opponent and no matter how the ref was helping him, it didn't matter because Ryan can take his powerpunches and manages to counter even many stronger which takes him down everytime it hims him multiple times.

What do you guys think about the Canelo Vs Munguia fight, which is not far away, on 4th May.
Bookies seem to be thinking it's going to be smooth sailing for Canelo. I'm not that big of a boxing fan and haven't been following Munguia's career that closely, but his record and KO rate (of almost 80%) look quite impressive.

Odds are very similar to Canelo Vs Bivol, when the Mexican was a big favorite but got outclassed by the Russian.


Are these fair or misplaced? Worth putting a few $ on Munguia?

I would love to see referees warning and deducting points on fighters that hug a lot. It would do better for the sport and it make fights less boring. Oscar, BHop and the rest of GBP are raining praises on Garcia. But it will  be exciting to know on what's next for Ryan. I think this fight is his last in his GBP contract and we'll see if he renews his contract knowing that he made beefs with Oscar and BHop.

Ryan becomes more popular but he is still not the face of boxing as long as Canelo is getting consistent numbers. And Ryan also said that his plan is to fight at welterweight so no more 140 then?

Lol, but yes, the referee has been heavily criticized in the social media, specially when Haney was hugging Ryan and he should at least count 1 more knockout. And when Haney was hugging for dear life and Ryan separated himself and then throw a punch, the ref deducted a point. And then one judges saw it a draw, that's 3 knockdown, reminds of Manny Pacquiao vs Marquez wherein Manny should have won that fight in the strength of his 3 knockdown. Nevertheless, the other two judges give to Ryan, which for us should be right score in this fight. So as per Oscar, Ryan now is the face of boxing, even though he doesn't have a belt on his waist. But the kind knows how to promote a fight and putting fans in their seat. Will be interesting to see the live gate numbers as there are reports that the tickets is not sold out.

Obviously sure they wanna rob the kid. The judge scored a Draw for that fight despite the countless knockouts, its ridiculous but you would understand that they worked together to nail Ryan. If he doesn't participate the way like they should I guess the WBC will take back the money.

And Haney whipped out this bad, I don't think he can request an immediate rematch. But Tank warned Haney from the start that Ryan does have a fast hand, he didn't listen.

Haney-Garcia lived up to its hype. Full of drama and some questionable decisions. Most if not all were expecting Haney to easily dominate Ryan Garcia. What was more unexpected though was when Ryan Garcia landed a huge left hook that badly hurt Haney in the very first round. It changed the tempo of the whole fight. Haney was still winning the next rounds but he remained unstable and Ryan already found his range and is just waiting for his opportunity again.

It's just annoying how the referee was helping Haney a lot. He never deducted a point on Haney for the countless hugs. There were times he interrupted when Haney is hugging while Ryan's hands were free. But he let Haney punch when Ryan is the one clinching. One judge also tried to rob Ryan of a clear win. And corrupt WBC still retained Haney as its champion when it should've been declared vacant because he failed to defend it.

I really think that Oscar Valdez has more experience than Liam Wilson and that solid close-combat performance was really epic it was classic or vintage but at the same time was a masterclass performance from Oscar Valdez, and Liam Wilson doesn't have an answer in that barrage of punch that he was taking it was really something that Liam Wilson don't have any answer and he can not move anymore in round 7 it was really eminent that the referee would just need to stop the fight because he had seen enough one-sided beating from Oscar Valdez.


That was great memorabilia from the Legend Muhammad Ali and for sure if this was auctioned for that kind of amount it would be an even much bigger amount in the future this piece of boxing shirt was worn by the legendary boxer it is worth another fortune, I really think that even the legendary Manny Pacquiao's clothes and worn shorts that he used during his boxing career all of those could have a significant value it will be a privilege and an opportunity for someone to have a possession of something like this.

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And Breaking news Ryan Garcia won against Devin Haney it was an upset for the Champion that he was defeated by the Underdog Ryan Garcia it was really imminent that Ryan Garcia had the upper hand he had the speed and the feints were really effective against Devin Haney, even though the Referee was on Haney's side it was pretty much imminent that he was because he always breaks the two apart and always getting Garcia back in the ropes while letting Haney sets up the upperhand while Garcia was in the corner, and keeping up the time in shaking Haney's gloves if he is OK giving Devin Haney much time to rest.

Well this is just what have seen in watching the fight it is up to you as an audience what have you seen but despite all this Ryan Garcia still won the fight.

In my opinion, he could have been chasing the two best boxers in 147 lbs, but it's that circumstances are not in his favor. He has been calling them, but it seems the PBC is lock already with Spence Jr facing Crawford for a unification fight and one of the biggest last year.

So I doubt that PBC will have to postponed that or the governing body not forcing the mandatory because it's a huge fight.

And after winning all the belts, Crawford is no longer interested on him. It's a career move, we can't blame him for that leaving PBC. And most likely Eddie Hearn could have sweetened the deal and has good offers money wise for Ennis.

^^ Perhaps he was frustrated from PBC for not giving him the chance to fight Spence, hehehe. But now that he is out, he can chase them, but I do agree that both are not interested on fighting Ennis.

It's not a clear duck in my opinion, it's that Ennis can't put the money that both Spence and Crawford wanted as a 147 lbs and as reported, there could be a rematch in the horizon whether 147 lbs or 154 lbs, leaving Ennis behind. But let's see how Eddie Hearn can guide his career, he might pull some strings and put Ennis in the headlines in Middle East with big money for his new boxer.

Well, talk is cheap. Ennis talked about being the best in the division and yet he did not put strong pressure on Errol Spence to execute his IBF mandate. And it's a fact that he ducked Crawford when offered for the WBO belt. That lame excuse that Al Haymon treated him well so they want PBC to promote his fights and not of Crawford's choice who's actually the champion. And then he barked about wanting Crawford later when he unified all the belts. So he was willing to fight outside PBC then or he was just bluffing.

Now that he is out of PBC, Matchroom is more than willing to offer him fights to other promoters too. We'll see if he calls the other top tier guys because I doubt Crawford or even Spence are interested at 147.

Yes, even before that video surfaces, I was hinting that a Cody Crowley fight is good for Ennis, just to stay active and answer all those criticism of not fighting his mandatory since he has been reinstated as a full pledge champion now and not just a interim belt holder.

So this could be a great fight, and he can show his tools and wares and what's the hype is all about for him and why Crawford says that he doesn't want to fight Ennis for now. And then after Crowley, he can call Spence and Bud Crawford again and for me he deserves a title shot or at least bodies should put pressure specially on Crawford to fight Ennis.

You can listen in this interview and see what his plans his,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8bsQ-pGFbg

And it's obvious that he want all the smoke at 147 lbs, Crawford, Spence. He can get this fight if the money is right. The good thing is that he will stay active now, and he can go global, meaning it will include exposure in Saudi as Eddie Hearn is one of the most powerful promoter in that side of Middle East now.

If we look at the rankings, the Canadian Cody Crowley is his mandatory.

Yes, all of that will happen because Muhammad Ali is heavyweight boxing legend who is truly an idol for everyone, even Mike Tyson, who is boxing legend with various heavyweight titles, also idolizes Muhammad Ali.
Those people who have more wealth will definitely pay lot of money for some of the valuable items left by Muhammad Ali and owning or keeping valuable items belonging to the boxing legend also gives them sense of pride.
And this is not the only valuable item left by Muhammad Ali, so perhaps in the future we will all see other items being auctioned for prices much greater than $6 million.

Moreover, it will be worth much more in the future and this will become collectible item that is really used as an investment by some people because many rich people also deliberately buy and keep it not only for pride but also as profitable valuable item.

Hopefully with this move, Ennis will be more active this year under Eddie Hearn. Who knows, maybe we can see him and Benn fighting this year?

As long as Ennis opponent is not just second tier boxer and again being active, I think this is a good move for him. The thing with Hearn though is that his fighters are not exclusive for him, I mean he can try to negotiate an fight others in the other stable to exposed his boxers.

So let's see who will be his initial opponent being a Matchroom boxer.

That's also what I'm thinking, not giving Ennis a chance because he is no PPV star? Look who's talking, perhaps it was Crawford wanted a bigger fish and he is waiting for the rematch against Spence, whether 147 or 154 lbs. And he has to remember that he is no getting any younger as well. I will agree that this is a surprised move by Ennis as PBC might have the most numbers of welterweight fighters. But I guess the final straw is not getting Spence and so he decided to try Eddie Hearn to guide him, like what Matchroom did to Canelo. And maybe Ennis wanted to get a piece of that huge "oil money" that some of the boxers are getting right now. As we all know that Haney is close to his Excellency Turki Alalshikh.