[Boxing] Tank Davis vs. Ryan Garcia betting and discussion (May, 2023) - page 2.

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Quote from: Pamadar on May 20, 2023, 02:27:04 PM

Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 20, 2023, 02:28:55 AM

But it seems that Garcia has find a new trainer already, so no more Eddy Reynoso for him and it's Derrick James and I think we have discussed it several pages back.

It's now official though, I have seen pictures of Ryan together with Errol Spence Jr training together since James already manages Spence Jr. But as we have said as well, if Ryan is not discipline enough regardless of who the trainer he will get, it will still be the same result. Disciple + Hard Work + trainer is the recipe for someone to be a elite fighter.

Regardless of whoever will handle his training, if the kid is not trainable, then there's nothing that will happen.

Changing your trainer will not have any big impact on your growth unless you are willing to adjust and exceed from your set limits,
more on his self-will to adopt all the trainings.

It's really hard for someone who thinks they already have enough to follow an instruction, thinking that what they've got is complete
enough to win a fight. It's your allotment with more knowledge and skills to adopt from your team that matters.

I certainly agree. Even the greatest coach and trainer of all time will have the struggle to train a boxer who doesn't want to be trained because in Ryan Garcia's case, his ego is too big that he thinks that his heavy fast punch can settle everything. At first, I was rooting for this kid's success because he does have the talent needed that most boxers doesn't even have but when I learned that he's too self-centered and unwilling to train for his own improvement, I lost my faith towards him because how can I expect something from him if he himself is not helping himself to improve and be a champion someday. That's one big problem that Garcia didn't see at all.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 20, 2023, 02:28:55 AM

But it seems that Garcia has find a new trainer already, so no more Eddy Reynoso for him and it's Derrick James and I think we have discussed it several pages back.

It's now official though, I have seen pictures of Ryan together with Errol Spence Jr training together since James already manages Spence Jr. But as we have said as well, if Ryan is not discipline enough regardless of who the trainer he will get, it will still be the same result. Disciple + Hard Work + trainer is the recipe for someone to be a elite fighter.

Regardless of whoever will handle his training, if the kid is not trainable, then there's nothing that will happen.

Changing your trainer will not have any big impact on your growth unless you are willing to adjust and exceed from your set limits,
more on his self-will to adopt all the trainings.

It's really hard for someone who thinks they already have enough to follow an instruction, thinking that what they've got is complete
enough to win a fight. It's your allotment with more knowledge and skills to adopt from your team that matters.

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But it seems that Garcia has find a new trainer already, so no more Eddy Reynoso for him and it's Derrick James and I think we have discussed it several pages back.

It's now official though, I have seen pictures of Ryan together with Errol Spence Jr training together since James already manages Spence Jr. But as we have said as well, if Ryan is not discipline enough regardless of who the trainer he will get, it will still be the same result. Disciple + Hard Work + trainer is the recipe for someone to be a elite fighter.

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Quote from: Maslate on May 19, 2023, 02:46:48 PM

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 16, 2023, 01:43:46 PM

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.
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Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

I thought he already learned his lessons to be a much better boxer when Campbell exposed his weakness but I was wrong as from his trainers words, Ryan Garcia was not displaying any dedication to win a fight because he's not having intense preparations just like what a regular boxer does. It turns out that he was just overrated by the hype build by his team but when faced the Davis, everything has shattered into pieces which kind of explains why there was nobody on his side during the post-fight interview.

Most probably, we all have the same assumptions after that fight because it's just hard to think that his camp and Ryan himself will not be motivated after what happened as that particular fight almost gave him his first defeat and it was Campbell who first made Ryan Garcia an open book for his next foe's advantage. And unfortunately, we had the wrong assumption and even Golden Boy himself was not happy with it either because after he gave Ryan a two-easy fight, he still did not improve.

If he wont really be changing up the behavior then we wont really be shocked that if this man would really be losing up his career due to lots of losses and other criticisms. Its good to see about these sentiments
for him not to follow up orders in speaking about trading routines which it is really that a must thing for a boxer to follow on and something that do talks about discipline. Boxing isnt really just like
chilling and having some small time trading plus those interviews. If you would be having this kind of mindset and on the time that you would realize that there's no one would like to interview you. LOL!
He would be needing to make up those adjustments and should really be that somewhat serious if he do wants to improve more and would really be changing up his course.
He shouldnt really be that too confident on what he currently have because there are lots of strong and better boxers way above or ahead of him. Continuous lose would definitely
make out a huge impact on his career.

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Quote from: Kasabus on May 18, 2023, 02:19:20 PM

Quote from: carlisle1 on May 17, 2023, 01:53:38 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 16, 2023, 03:19:24 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 16, 2023, 01:43:46 PM

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

I thought he already learned his lessons to be a much better boxer when Campbell exposed his weakness but I was wrong as from his trainers words, Ryan Garcia was not displaying any dedication to win a fight because he's not having intense preparations just like what a regular boxer does. It turns out that he was just overrated by the hype build by his team but when faced the Davis, everything has shattered into pieces which kind of explains why there was nobody on his side during the post-fight interview.

Most probably, we all have the same assumptions after that fight because it's just hard to think that his camp and Ryan himself will not be motivated after what happened as that particular fight almost gave him his first defeat and it was Campbell who first made Ryan Garcia an open book for his next foe's advantage. And unfortunately, we had the wrong assumption and even Golden Boy himself was not happy with it either because after he gave Ryan a two-easy fight, he still did not improve.

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Quote from: carlisle1 on May 17, 2023, 01:53:38 PM

Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 16, 2023, 03:19:24 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 16, 2023, 01:43:46 PM

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

I thought he already learned his lessons to be a much better boxer when Campbell exposed his weakness but I was wrong as from his trainers words, Ryan Garcia was not displaying any dedication to win a fight because he's not having intense preparations just like what a regular boxer does. It turns out that he was just overrated by the hype build by his team but when faced the Davis, everything has shattered into pieces which kind of explains why there was nobody on his side during the post-fight interview.

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Quote from: Ziskinberg on May 16, 2023, 03:19:24 PM

Quote from: inthelongrun on May 16, 2023, 01:43:46 PM

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

He's leaning with what he got and think that it's enough to win a fight, yes it gives him those previous wins but against a champ
that skills was being exposed and he suffered a lost.

If the kid will not try to enhance his skills and will continue to think that what he got now is enough, then we might see him suffer to another loss.

It's on him if he will take that challenge to change his mind set and start aiming for good enhancement of his skills, more on
footwork's and stamina.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on May 16, 2023, 01:43:46 PM

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

Well, that confirms the story of Ryan's trainer, Joe Goosen, as he also said few weeks ago that Ryan Garcia was indeed a lazy type of boxer who doesn't do a lot of training to help him with his movements because he's so reliant on what he have right now, which is his left hook. I wonder why it took some couple of years for Eddy Reynoso to reveal this and make a statement because people have been thinking that he just got no time with Ryan because that's what the kid said but in reality, it's Garcia who does have a problem and not the people around him.

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It's disgusting Tony Weeks intervened, stopping the fight when 4k years old Barroso was not even hit clean and was leading the fight prior to the stoppage. Weeks did not even think about the effort of Barroso who's just awakened from his pyramid in Egypt just to fight PBC's baby pug, Rolando Romero. Anyways, Romero better mentions only popular but weaker fighters because he is nowhere near the levels of Taylor, Prograis, Matias, etc. 2 of the champions in the division are now at PBC but I really doubt Al will allow Romero to unify his WBA belt against IBF champion Subriel Matias.

Meanwhile, here is Eddy Reynoso's say on KingRy. He might be welcomed again but he needs to follow Reynoso's rules and not his. But I have doubt that this will happen if Canelo will face an uphill battle next with the likes of Bivol.

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It looks like Ryan is going to take Rolly Romero after the very controversial stoppage of Tony Weeks in Romero's title fight against Barroso, Rolly just called out Ryan and I'm sure Ryan will take it since he is going on 140 lbs. This is going to be a good match up both are hard punchers but with a weak chin and thrash talkers too.
But I want Ryan to take an easy 140-pounder fighter before taking in Romero, Romero is a dangerous fighter and you would not want a possible 2 losses in the early part of your career.

Tank was easily to beat his kid Cheesy

Although Romero was going to be aggressive and dominating when he fought Tank, but he was make a mistake for chasing Tank too far and it make Tank outperformed him.

Garcia vs Romero might be interesting, the fight should be goes toe to toe and the loser might be lose via KO since both of them have a weak chin.

Lopez is also on 140 lbs division, we might see Lopez vs Garcia fight in the future.

This is indeed interesting to watch soon if it will happen because even if Gervonta Davis didn't sweat that much on their fight versus Romero, I can still say that the latter is still a decent one or even much impressive compared to Garcia. I know that Garcia can be more destructive at 140 but that is if he can hit that solid punch towards the agile Romero who's quite good at evading punches which is why he is Mayweather's second favorite next to Davis.

Anyway, let's wait and see if this rumored fight will happen soon because I don't think that Garcia will bite this one as he just got from a loss which mean that he needed someone first to bounce back to build confidence and hype before he will face the new WBA champion, Rolly Romero.

I haven't heard if Ryan Garcia has answered Rolly Romero's challenged, he might have heard it, but as we have heard, he is looking for a new trainer so maybe he is not looking for a quick fight after that Davis lost.

And I guess for Oscar his manager, don't rush him, might be better if he will get a tuneup first at 140 lbs and see how it goes. At least bring Ryan's confidence again and bounce back from that defeat. He had should mental breakdown before, so it's better for him to take another lightly opponent to boost belief in himself that he can do it again.

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It looks like Ryan is going to take Rolly Romero after the very controversial stoppage of Tony Weeks in Romero's title fight against Barroso, Rolly just called out Ryan and I'm sure Ryan will take it since he is going on 140 lbs. This is going to be a good match up both are hard punchers but with a weak chin and thrash talkers too.
But I want Ryan to take an easy 140-pounder fighter before taking in Romero, Romero is a dangerous fighter and you would not want a possible 2 losses in the early part of your career.

Tank was easily to beat his kid Cheesy

Although Romero was going to be aggressive and dominating when he fought Tank, but he was make a mistake for chasing Tank too far and it make Tank outperformed him.

Garcia vs Romero might be interesting, the fight should be goes toe to toe and the loser might be lose via KO since both of them have a weak chin.

Lopez is also on 140 lbs division, we might see Lopez vs Garcia fight in the future.

This is indeed interesting to watch soon if it will happen because even if Gervonta Davis didn't sweat that much on their fight versus Romero, I can still say that the latter is still a decent one or even much impressive compared to Garcia. I know that Garcia can be more destructive at 140 but that is if he can hit that solid punch towards the agile Romero who's quite good at evading punches which is why he is Mayweather's second favorite next to Davis.

Anyway, let's wait and see if this rumored fight will happen soon because I don't think that Garcia will bite this one as he just got from a loss which mean that he needed someone first to bounce back to build confidence and hype before he will face the new WBA champion, Rolly Romero.

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Quote from: coin-investor on May 14, 2023, 04:19:19 PM

It looks like Ryan is going to take Rolly Romero after the very controversial stoppage of Tony Weeks in Romero's title fight against Barroso, Rolly just called out Ryan and I'm sure Ryan will take it since he is going on 140 lbs. This is going to be a good match up both are hard punchers but with a weak chin and thrash talkers too.
But I want Ryan to take an easy 140-pounder fighter before taking in Romero, Romero is a dangerous fighter and you would not want a possible 2 losses in the early part of your career.

Tank was easily to beat his kid Cheesy

Although Romero was going to be aggressive and dominating when he fought Tank, but he was make a mistake for chasing Tank too far and it make Tank outperformed him.

Garcia vs Romero might be interesting, the fight should be goes toe to toe and the loser might be lose via KO since both of them have a weak chin.

Lopez is also on 140 lbs division, we might see Lopez vs Garcia fight in the future.

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So yeah, not surprised by Ryan talking to Tank and getting his numbers. Or Ryan's mom hugging Tank Davis after the fight. And maybe it was the people behind them who really wanted to create all the drama to hype and they succeeded as it become the most watch fight this year.

After all, it's just a sport and they get in the ring just to give the fans the fight that they've been dreaming of, and after their job was done, they need to give themselves a peaceful life. I think it's really best to see them that way and for the other boxers that are talking too much and always below the belt of trash-talking, they need to realize that they are not there to talk trash and they should not focus on that rather they need to make it clear to train well and perform well inside the ring. Because most of the trash talkers ended up losing because their arrogance got them good and they didn't take the fight seriously, with no proper training and stamina after late rounds.

All this is very true, after having a fight and fixing the whole ring, things return to normal, this is something that we all know, now, if we consider that the rivalry is also part of the show, we can see that things are they are giving in the way that many want, they have fame, money, and there is that Adrenaline of a great fight, the bettors at the Maximum and everyone begins to have in their mind what will happen and how they will bet, the partialities, the Statistics begin to resurface, and obviously the one who does the best job will win,that's always the case.

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Quote from: coin-investor on May 14, 2023, 04:19:19 PM

It looks like Ryan is going to take Rolly Romero after the very controversial stoppage of Tony Weeks in Romero's title fight against Barroso, Rolly just called out Ryan and I'm sure Ryan will take it since he is going on 140 lbs. This is going to be a good match up both are hard punchers but with a weak chin and thrash talkers too.
But I want Ryan to take an easy 140-pounder fighter before taking in Romero, Romero is a dangerous fighter and you would not want a possible 2 losses in the early part of your career.

It's somewhat controversial win by Romero. But I think even before him winning and taking the belt, he has been calling Ryan Garcia. Perhaps he knows that he can beat Ryan or it will make sense as far as financial goes.

As you can see, both are trash talkers, so this will be one hell of a fight, both big punchers. But we will see if Ryan will go back to Reynoso or be on a new coach that will try to improved his defense and training. Ryan really need to focus and bring his heart every training, and I would have to agree with what Oscar said, if he is training then go to Big Bear without any distractions.

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It looks like Ryan is going to take Rolly Romero after the very controversial stoppage of Tony Weeks in Romero's title fight against Barroso, Rolly just called out Ryan and I'm sure Ryan will take it since he is going on 140 lbs. This is going to be a good match up both are hard punchers but with a weak chin and thrash talkers too.
But I want Ryan to take an easy 140-pounder fighter before taking in Romero, Romero is a dangerous fighter and you would not want a possible 2 losses in the early part of your career.

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All of that might be found on his new journey and as of now, it's already rumored that he already have another one to coach him but I don't think he will be given enough time because that same coach is also the coaches of Anthony Joshua, Charlo and Errol Spence. But I have no doubts that he can a learn a thing or two in this new coach because he also trained numerous champions already.

So it's going to be a repeat on Ryan Garcia as you have said, remember that he left Eddy Reynoso because he thinks that he is not giving him enough time, as Eddy had Canelo Alvarez that was his excused and so he parted ways and go to Joe Goosen.

So doesn't make sense to go to Derrick James then?

Anyhow, we wait if this marriage will work in the future, imagine Ryan becoming slick and improved his footwork with his new trainer. Because it seems that James is known to train black athletes so maybe he can improved Ryan a bit.

I would trust Reynoso and Canelo's words rather than the very talkative unproven Ryan Garcia. Reynoso has the time but he wants his precious time only for those that are fully devoted and follows his advice. The same with Canelo, he allowed some athletes like Oscar Valdez, Andy Ruiz, and Ryan Garcia to join his training camp but they need to train like hell and not bring negativity to the camp.

Derrick James was in my mind too but I did not mention it because the Charlos and Spence are very close friends of Tank. Spence seems cool but the Charlos might bully and laugh at Garcia if they are in the same camp. I can feel deep inside that Ryan is hurting and wants revenge because he was not given the chance to fight Tank at the weight class he wants. Maybe James can fly to the place where Ryan can establish his training camp but I am not sure if his ego is capable of surviving in the same training camp with the Charlos. There is even the chance of Tank visiting his friends in training.

Ryan won't become slick overnight but James can help him set up his punches properly and work on his defense. He really has the habit to become wide and open when he throws his power punch and Tank knew it.

What do you think though? for me it's better for Ryan to just go back to Eddy then? I mean he has good relationship with Reynoso before and probably it's Ryan best interest that Canelo has said things in public against him. Perhaps Canelo's intention is for Ryan to really improved himself, but Ryan take it negatively.

For me I don't think that James will be a perfect fit for him as a coach, no offense to him, but the his style of coaching might not work with Ryan. So it's better to go back to where he all started his career, with Eddy's camp and for sure he can still improved and continue what they have started before instead of renewing another training pattern that he might have difficult to learn, in my opinion.

I read somewhere that Eddy is still willing to coach Ryan. But it could be Eddy trying to be nice in public when asked but I am pretty sure he and Canelo will have their own sets of demands once a fighter trains with them. I actually had doubts before that their partnerships will last long for some reason. Canelo severed his relationship with GBP and started working with Matchroom while Ryan renewed his contract with Oscar. Canelo's name was constantly used for clout by Jake Paul and he is annoyed with it, there was even a time when he shouted at a couple of Jake Paul's team to leave. While Ryan Garcia started to become friends with Jake Paul.

I agree with you on that. James might help him but it's limited because the styles might be too different. IMO, it is better to hire a coach with a similar style. The goal is to correct his mistakes and avoid his habits while working on different strategies too. But Ryan can actually hire a coach per fight basis and can only renew them with a longer contract once he is fit with them.

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Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia: Approximately 1.2M PPV Buys; $22.8M In Ticket Revenue

We all knew that Davis vs Garcia was a great success but it also exceeded the expectation of some in terms of pay-per-view, especially in the US.

Have read an article that even if it only generated 450k to 750k view, it would still be a success but damn that 1.2 millions views was massive if that was an accurate figure they gave there. I wonder how much money if that views were translated in dollars and how much share would Garcia and Davis would get from it.

I agree, people demanded this fight, and so they watch it. So no surprised that it has generated that huge money for the boxers, promoters and networks. So if they can generate this huge numbers, just imagine Crawford vs Spence. But I guess they wanted more though, maybe guaranteed $10-$20 million first before they face each other.

Anyway, we might not see another fight of this magnitude, at least the hype and the buzz that it generates to casual and hard core boxing fans. Although there will be a Canelo fight next month, but it will be in Mexico so expect great live gates and PPV Buys.

Yes, things do indeed sound like that, but we have to wait, for me what they can do in this fight are many things, firstly Garcia, who has the least amount of bets from the fans, can do and win, but on the other hand Davis is a boxer who doesn't give up and will give everything, so it's a clash of forces, energy and apart from being a great show, and with respect to Spence and Crawford, I think Spence should have the pants here. say yes to Crawford and with that he takes that weight off his shoulders that I think torments him every day.

Just like what @TravelMug said, there's also a chance that Spence and Crawford is waiting for a bigger cut (guaranteed) from this fight because they know that it will be a blockbuster hit once they announce and settle it. What happened recently in Davis vs Garcia is just a smaller scale to what the Spence vs Crawford fight can bring, it will be a sold out fight in just mere few minutes and the organizers will literally make this fight in an outdoor area to maximize their profits from the people who wanted to see the fight up close and live.

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Gervonta Davis-Ryan Garcia: Approximately 1.2M PPV Buys; $22.8M In Ticket Revenue

We all knew that Davis vs Garcia was a great success but it also exceeded the expectation of some in terms of pay-per-view, especially in the US.

Have read an article that even if it only generated 450k to 750k view, it would still be a success but damn that 1.2 millions views was massive if that was an accurate figure they gave there. I wonder how much money if that views were translated in dollars and how much share would Garcia and Davis would get from it.

I agree, people demanded this fight, and so they watch it. So no surprised that it has generated that huge money for the boxers, promoters and networks. So if they can generate this huge numbers, just imagine Crawford vs Spence. But I guess they wanted more though, maybe guaranteed $10-$20 million first before they face each other.

Anyway, we might not see another fight of this magnitude, at least the hype and the buzz that it generates to casual and hard core boxing fans. Although there will be a Canelo fight next month, but it will be in Mexico so expect great live gates and PPV Buys.

Yes, things do indeed sound like that, but we have to wait, for me what they can do in this fight are many things, firstly Garcia, who has the least amount of bets from the fans, can do and win, but on the other hand Davis is a boxer who doesn't give up and will give everything, so it's a clash of forces, energy and apart from being a great show, and with respect to Spence and Crawford, I think Spence should have the pants here. say yes to Crawford and with that he takes that weight off his shoulders that I think torments him every day.

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All of that might be found on his new journey and as of now, it's already rumored that he already have another one to coach him but I don't think he will be given enough time because that same coach is also the coaches of Anthony Joshua, Charlo and Errol Spence. But I have no doubts that he can a learn a thing or two in this new coach because he also trained numerous champions already.

So it's going to be a repeat on Ryan Garcia as you have said, remember that he left Eddy Reynoso because he thinks that he is not giving him enough time, as Eddy had Canelo Alvarez that was his excused and so he parted ways and go to Joe Goosen.

So doesn't make sense to go to Derrick James then?

Anyhow, we wait if this marriage will work in the future, imagine Ryan becoming slick and improved his footwork with his new trainer. Because it seems that James is known to train black athletes so maybe he can improved Ryan a bit.

I would trust Reynoso and Canelo's words rather than the very talkative unproven Ryan Garcia. Reynoso has the time but he wants his precious time only for those that are fully devoted and follows his advice. The same with Canelo, he allowed some athletes like Oscar Valdez, Andy Ruiz, and Ryan Garcia to join his training camp but they need to train like hell and not bring negativity to the camp.

Derrick James was in my mind too but I did not mention it because the Charlos and Spence are very close friends of Tank. Spence seems cool but the Charlos might bully and laugh at Garcia if they are in the same camp. I can feel deep inside that Ryan is hurting and wants revenge because he was not given the chance to fight Tank at the weight class he wants. Maybe James can fly to the place where Ryan can establish his training camp but I am not sure if his ego is capable of surviving in the same training camp with the Charlos. There is even the chance of Tank visiting his friends in training.

Ryan won't become slick overnight but James can help him set up his punches properly and work on his defense. He really has the habit to become wide and open when he throws his power punch and Tank knew it.

What do you think though? for me it's better for Ryan to just go back to Eddy then? I mean he has good relationship with Reynoso before and probably it's Ryan best interest that Canelo has said things in public against him. Perhaps Canelo's intention is for Ryan to really improved himself, but Ryan take it negatively.

For me I don't think that James will be a perfect fit for him as a coach, no offense to him, but the his style of coaching might not work with Ryan. So it's better to go back to where he all started his career, with Eddy's camp and for sure he can still improved and continue what they have started before instead of renewing another training pattern that he might have difficult to learn, in my opinion.

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I'll go for Tank, Tank has 12 title fights and Ryan is fighting for his first title shot, Tank knows the pressure inside a championship fight, he's been there and done that, and will do it again, we have their weigh-in hours ago and I have never been excited in a fight because so much is at stake here I'm sure it will live up to the hype.
Both fighters are totally hyped during the weigh-in, everybody here I'm sure will not going to miss this one as it is three or four years in the making, and now they finally going to face each other in the ring.

GERVONTA DAVIS VS RYAN GARCIA • HEATED FULL WEIGH IN & FACE OFF VIDEO!

Same here

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Team Davis was so wise enough that they have taken out the advantages of Ryan Garcia if they were to fight, I mean that size advantage was no longer there plus the fact that Garcia has never fought in this kind of fight in his whole career. But if an upset would happen (for me is unlikely) then it is very embarrassing for Davis because if we look at their record, Davis has fought more than 10 title fights to none for Garcia.

The only thing I'm hoping for here is that this fight would last 12 rounds.

Everyone is betting that Davis can win, but in view of what I have seen in some forums, some information that is going through some articles is that García is not going to make it easy for him, as far as I am concerned I think that García can hit the bump, and this can mean that many of the facets go under and those who win will have a great impact,I would be one of the few who would bet on García because I see that he is very hungry to win and silence many mouths, without However, in boxing anything can happen, let's see how all this turns out.

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