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Topic: [BTC-TC] Deprived Mining Speculation (DMS) (Read 199011 times)

legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1000

Just checked the address today. Can't believe that it took 3.5 years and it's now finally moving... Interesting that, now that BTC is back over $1K he/she is finally moving it...
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1006
Lead Blockchain Developer
BTW Burnside, when are you writing a book about the BTC-TC experience?

Of all the legendary figures, you seem to be an exception (i.e. no exit scam)

It's funny, I've thought about it, but I've always hated writing and I'm not sure the settlement with the SEC would allow me to be open enough about it all to be worth writing.  I'll have to think about it a bit.

I'm still (even years later) not completely clear because I am supposed to apply (somehow) to be able to trade equities in the US again.  The settlement banned me for two years.  Crazy stuff, but the same SEC lawyer was dealing with BitFunder and Trendon Shavers at the same time, so in a lot of ways I can't blame 'em.

Every time i have a RL conversation with a fellow non-newbie Bitcoiner, this is always mentioned. Just two nights ago, for me.

It was good while it lasted.  Being used by the scammers still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.  I tried pretty hard to create a system that self regulated but the success of asicminer opened the gates for a lot of scammers / failures.  Everyone wanted to be in on the next asicminer.

Really?  What security is he running now?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/gauging-interest-canadian-game-development-studio-by-an-ex-playtika-exec-1485329

Not open to the public, but that's what I'm up to.  Trademark registered, patent filed, game is in a beta state.  A few more animations and bugs worked out and we'll be inviting the public to register for a closed beta.  Haven't needed any funding to date, but I've been exploring options so that we can get a second game in the pipeline sooner rather than later.

As you can imagine, after my experience with the SEC I'm being extra careful with this.  When we do accept investment it'll be within the confinements of a private raise via accredited investors.  The cool thing about bitcoin if we do it that way is a private investor could prove net worth to meet the accredited investor status by signing an address with bitcoins in it.

For anyone interested the investors deck is available here: http://yappingmoose.com/bunco_bonko_deck_201701.pdf  We're going to target a raise of around $1M for 20%-$25% equity in the company.  We'll cap investor count at 20 and have a minimum $50k investment.  We also recently hired a CMO.  The guy worked for Sony and did all the marketing for Playstation 3 and Playstation 4 in Canada.  I have a pretty good feeling about where things are headed.  I haven't felt this good about something since 2010 when I was working on Bingo Blitz.   Grin

donator
Activity: 4760
Merit: 4323
Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
Of all the legendary figures, you seem to be an exception (i.e. no exit scam)

Really?  What security is he running now?

I'll just leave this here... 
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/nastyfans-the-bitcoin-enthusiast-fan-club-est-2012-86854
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1000

At least it brings some kind of closure, just like when the body of a missing person is found, I guess? Not...

But yeah, lesson learnt, as for the coins I wrote them off a long time ago.

BTW Burnside, when are you writing a book about the BTC-TC experience?

Of all the legendary figures, you seem to be an exception (i.e. no exit scam)
Every time i have a RL conversation with a fellow non-newbie Bitcoiner, this is always mentioned. Just two nights ago, for me.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1035

At least it brings some kind of closure, just like when the body of a missing person is found, I guess? Not...

But yeah, lesson learnt, as for the coins I wrote them off a long time ago.

BTW Burnside, when are you writing a book about the BTC-TC experience?

Of all the legendary figures, you seem to be an exception (i.e. no exit scam)
sr. member
Activity: 304
Merit: 250
so that means he is still drunk?
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1035
*bump*

I'm afraid that the patient is brain dead Sad
sr. member
Activity: 304
Merit: 250
*bump*
sr. member
Activity: 517
Merit: 250
legendary
Activity: 882
Merit: 1000
November 24, 2014, 08:49:24 PM
Well my fellow investors here is the latest from Wood Technologies LLP:

We write to confirm that the CipherMine (‘CM’) restructure plan has been approved.

In accordance with that plan:

  1.   A new entity, Ciphermine Limited, has been incorporated in the UK;

  2.   The ‘share’ in the start-up crowdfunding platform CipherTrade (‘CT Share’) has been transferred to Ciphermine Limited. The CT Share has been calculated on the basis of a contribution at the relevant time by CM of USD $20,000, and equates to 10% of CipherTrade;

  3.   100,000 shares in Ciphermine Limited have been allotted, and will be available for subscription based on pro rata holdings of the CM B1  ’bond’ (‘Bond’) (e.g. 1 bond = 1 share, 2 bonds = 2 shares etc);

  4.   The subscription process is as follows:

      a.   You will sign up for an account at ciphertrade.com (if you have not already done so);

      b.   You will complete the KYC process;

      c.   If you are a US citizen you will be unable to subscribe unless you can demonstrate that you are an accredited investor in compliance with US securities laws;

      d.   By mid-December the number of eligible subscribers  will be assessed (‘Eligible Subscribers’) and they will be sent a subscription agreement for signature;

      e.    On receipt of a signed subscription agreement, shares in Ciphermine Limited will be issued to Eligible Subscribers (‘New Shareholders’);

  5.   CM’s mining assets are being sold, and will be added to an asset pool with the remaining cryptocurrency mined (which at today’s rates is worth approximately USD $10,000) (the ‘Asset Pool’). The Asset Pool will be distributed on a pro rata basis to New Shareholders;

  6.   Eligible Subscribers will have a maximum of six months from the date of this communication to subscribe for shares in Ciphermine Limited (i.e. by 24 May 2015). On expiry of that period, any remaining balance in the Asset Pool will be distributed to the New Shareholders.

Finally, please note that by signing the subscription agreement, you will do so in full and final settlement of any claim you might have, or have had, against CM’s ‘shareholders’ and/or any other individual and/or legal person, arising out of or in connection with CM and/or the ‘Bond’.

Yours faithfully,
Wood Technology LLP

So maybe we will finally get this mess cleaned up.  


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From the last balance sheet:
BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   0
CIPHERMINE Bonds    260.56000000
BTC Balance (Wallet)    150.79576392
Dividends (Wallet)    3.27310018
TOTAL ASSETS    414.62886410
   
Outstanding MINING   152575
Outstanding SELLING   152575
Outstanding PURCHASE   10479
Effective Units   163054
=================================
As we know, the CipherMine B1 is at 0.01BTC per bond when it launched. Therefore, DMS has 26056 bonds, and will be converted to 26056 shares of Ciphermine limited if this agreement is signed. In other words, 26.056% of Ciphermine limited, which at most is $30000 (or $20000?). Therefore, at best DMS will have around $7500, or 20 BTC. Less than 1/10 of its redemption value. Remember what they said?
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"-- CipherMine has the right to redeem any bond in full with one month's notice to the bond holder at face value plus 12% less the number of months since issue. For example, after three months the redemtion value would be 0.0109 BTC/bond, and after 12 months the redemption value would be 0.010 BTC/bond. The redemption value will always be at least 0.010 BTC/bond."
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But anyway, wish this removes the last excuse of why deprived choose to hide himself.
full member
Activity: 175
Merit: 100
November 24, 2014, 05:33:29 PM
Well my fellow investors here is the latest from Wood Technologies LLP:

We write to confirm that the CipherMine (‘CM’) restructure plan has been approved.

In accordance with that plan:

  1.   A new entity, Ciphermine Limited, has been incorporated in the UK;

  2.   The ‘share’ in the start-up crowdfunding platform CipherTrade (‘CT Share’) has been transferred to Ciphermine Limited. The CT Share has been calculated on the basis of a contribution at the relevant time by CM of USD $20,000, and equates to 10% of CipherTrade;

  3.   100,000 shares in Ciphermine Limited have been allotted, and will be available for subscription based on pro rata holdings of the CM B1  ’bond’ (‘Bond’) (e.g. 1 bond = 1 share, 2 bonds = 2 shares etc);

  4.   The subscription process is as follows:

      a.   You will sign up for an account at ciphertrade.com (if you have not already done so);

      b.   You will complete the KYC process;

      c.   If you are a US citizen you will be unable to subscribe unless you can demonstrate that you are an accredited investor in compliance with US securities laws;

      d.   By mid-December the number of eligible subscribers  will be assessed (‘Eligible Subscribers’) and they will be sent a subscription agreement for signature;

      e.    On receipt of a signed subscription agreement, shares in Ciphermine Limited will be issued to Eligible Subscribers (‘New Shareholders’);

  5.   CM’s mining assets are being sold, and will be added to an asset pool with the remaining cryptocurrency mined (which at today’s rates is worth approximately USD $10,000) (the ‘Asset Pool’). The Asset Pool will be distributed on a pro rata basis to New Shareholders;

  6.   Eligible Subscribers will have a maximum of six months from the date of this communication to subscribe for shares in Ciphermine Limited (i.e. by 24 May 2015). On expiry of that period, any remaining balance in the Asset Pool will be distributed to the New Shareholders.

Finally, please note that by signing the subscription agreement, you will do so in full and final settlement of any claim you might have, or have had, against CM’s ‘shareholders’ and/or any other individual and/or legal person, arising out of or in connection with CM and/or the ‘Bond’.

Yours faithfully,
Wood Technology LLP

So maybe we will finally get this mess cleaned up.  
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1000
November 03, 2014, 03:56:29 AM
He or she might just as well be dead, in rehab, jail or whatever.

Not just possible, but probable, i would say. And impossible to confirm either way without a RL name.

Multisig, multisig, multisig. 

legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1035
November 02, 2014, 07:53:43 PM
I don't have the/a link or address to hand, but i thought the funds were still static, i.e. noone has run away with any money Huh

There are still 150BTC on 1CzJY7pVkCqDjUtycHzFgeTTbbWokqYuXo but it doesn't mean much as long as the one with the key is AWOL. He or she might just as well be dead, in rehab, jail or whatever.
legendary
Activity: 1554
Merit: 1000
November 02, 2014, 06:02:13 AM
I don't have the/a link or address to hand, but i thought the funds were still static, i.e. noone has run away with any money Huh
hero member
Activity: 728
Merit: 500
November 02, 2014, 05:47:27 AM
Not that it will help get everyone's lost BTC back, but there may be some bittersweet redemption and consequences for Deprived if this story ever pans out. http://cointelegraph.com/news/112811/us-regulators-one-two-punch-sec-probes-crowdsales-fincen-takes-aim-at-exchanges

Link is discussing the SEC possibly investigating crowdsales on BitcoinTalk and using various investigatory means to track down issuers (and possibly bagholders shareholders).

The SEC is a US agency, Deprived is from the UK. Not sure how much they can do.
legendary
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
November 01, 2014, 09:00:15 PM
Anyway, really nice to see this post pop up again. I almost forgot my 10+ BTC is still in the hand of Deprived.

Every time that I see it pop up again my heart skips a beat, but I'm afraid there's only one purpose left to it: venting
sadly I  understand you perfectly. I took it as a very painful way to learn that even the most professional and trusted member could run away with your money.
legendary
Activity: 1133
Merit: 1050
Not that it will help get everyone's lost BTC back, but there may be some bittersweet redemption and consequences for Deprived if this story ever pans out. http://cointelegraph.com/news/112811/us-regulators-one-two-punch-sec-probes-crowdsales-fincen-takes-aim-at-exchanges

Link is discussing the SEC possibly investigating crowdsales on BitcoinTalk and using various investigatory means to track down issuers (and possibly bagholders shareholders).
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1035
Anyway, really nice to see this post pop up again. I almost forgot my 10+ BTC is still in the hand of Deprived.

Every time that I see it pop up again my heart skips a beat, but I'm afraid there's only one purpose left to it: venting
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