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Lorokan

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Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

WELL, either on altcoinstalk, bitcointalk, or cryptotalk; there is no consequences for such projects. At most the project gets red trusted and account deleted, and new accounts can be created. This is why you as promoter cannot lose guard; instead you focus on promoting projects that are of utmost value, and low risk of betraying trust; you find out this by doing your research before joining bounties.

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Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

It's outright cheating there's no other word for that, yes they can change the rules but they already know that some bounty hunters do not want to undergo KYC, so the team will have a free promotion from these bounty hunters, and some projects have a hidden agenda they set up a bounty campaign just to obtain the bounty hunters credentials so they can sell it online.

poclerk

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Such project giving tokens after bounty ends and no passing kyc except for those projects are not willing to do kyc. But if you send it to exchanger that available that is available for kyc and not for the project.

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Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

The exchange is not related to bounties, the reason you mentioned is illogical because participants bounty can still receive tokens using a wallet, if the exchange requires KYC for trading activities then they can do KYC or wait for trading on DEX exchange.

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The moment that rule about "team reserve the right to make changes anytime" is included in the bounty campaign rules already tells you as a hunter that the team will most likely change the rules somewhere during the campaign process, maybe a reason for them to make a decision and make changes, or compel to introduce kyc that was not included in the beginning of the campaign, this are definitely the unexpected scenario a hunter will encounter while during a campaign, there is nothing much we can do about it.

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Quote from: UniversityCoin on October 14, 2020, 06:13:11 PM

Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

This can be found on our forum. There can be two situations. If the rules contain a postscript that they can change at any time, then formally this is not a deception of the participants and the campaign owners did everything within the law. However, passing the KYC is a very fundamental question for some people and they refuse to pass it. It turns out that in this way the owners on this basis have the right not to pay some participants. I consider this a disgusting and unworthy act.

Still there are bounties like that or most of them, they have disclaimer or postcript as you said it. So it is their prerogative what changes are they going to make in the middle or after the campaign. Here in the forum, what the users can do is just give negative trust to the project if they will not give the share of their participants. And it is up to the participant if he will submit the required docs or not. Just be careful in selecting campaign.

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Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

This can be found on our forum. There can be two situations. If the rules contain a postscript that they can change at any time, then formally this is not a deception of the participants and the campaign owners did everything within the law. However, passing the KYC is a very fundamental question for some people and they refuse to pass it. It turns out that in this way the owners on this basis have the right not to pay some participants. I consider this a disgusting and unworthy act.

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Quote from: KimmyF on October 14, 2020, 05:42:46 PM

Quote from: minatour on October 14, 2020, 04:53:00 PM

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What! You don't think this is cheating

. Suppose the Youengine team decided to decrease the bounty rewards after 28 weeks complete because the team has the right to change the rules. I will suggest something to you. Don't justify anything that you didn't face before. Check the Bitwings, EZ365 exchange, PayAccept and Clipx campaign. Both campaigns change the rules. Only the EZ365 exchange is good. I face this problem and I know how it feels.

By the way, everyone has their own perceptions. It is true that bounty managers and project owners have the right to change the rules, it is usually written on the front page. Well, if you already know about this, as a bounty hunter we must be prepared for all of these changes. Is not it? I call it a risk.

I have also felt that, there was a change in the rules regarding KYC, it was disappointing, but what else can I do?
but that doesn't mean we can't do anything, we can raise protests and objections together, moreover, this forum also has pretty good power. Make a report thread and the like, if it is proven to be fraudulent there will be consequences for the manager's bounty. That is why I am sure that a professional bounty manager will definitely strive for consistent rules and provide benefits to all parties fairly.

MCobian

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It's sad the fact is like that, a lot of project teams change their rules when the campaign ends. Therefore, usually the bounty managers
include in the general rules that the project developer has the right to change the rules at any time, depending on the situation and
conditions. Sure, it looks cheating for me, but we can't do anything about it. If you do not agree with these rules, we are given the freedom
not to participate in these campaigns. So if you want to avoid KYC procedures, look for projects that have notified you from the start without
any KYC procedures. But there aren't many bounty campaigns like that.

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Quote from: minatour on October 14, 2020, 04:53:00 PM

This is not cheating, if you read project rules very well, there is always a statement like team has the power to change any of the rules stated in the bounty thread during or after the bounty campaign. So, is normal if you witness this happen anyother time.

What! You don't think this is cheating

. Suppose the Youengine team decided to decrease the bounty rewards after 28 weeks complete because the team has the right to change the rules. I will suggest something to you. Don't justify anything that you didn't face before. Check the Bitwings, EZ365 exchange, PayAccept and Clipx campaign. Both campaigns change the rules. Only the EZ365 exchange is good. I face this problem and I know how it feels.

minatour

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This is not cheating, if you read project rules very well, there is always a statement like team has the power to change any of the rules stated in the bounty thread during or after the bounty campaign. So, is normal if you witness this happen anyother time.

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There will be always a sentence after all rules mentioned. It has the power to add or remove any rule." Project/team has the right to modify these rules at any time". Logically, if any new rules imposed after the campaign ends, it is ok but ethically it is not good for the reputation of the project. It may decrease the confidence of the community in that project.

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I think it is their right as the owner of the company because there might be an appearance in the project they are building, I think to avoid it all
(NOT)

deathcode

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sometimes some managers have clear written rules. you can read it more carefully first. because the bounty manager also has the will to reduce and add regulations to the projects they manage. the consequence is only the trust of the community in the project and the market. because indeed the ability of the bounty participants will not be too big and also have a big impact on the project because they have stronger investor and market confidence when they are already traded.

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Quote from: anume123 on October 14, 2020, 10:56:21 AM

Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

Such project giving tokens after bounty ends and no passing kyc except for those projects are not willing to do kyc. But if you send it to exchanger that available that is available for kyc and not for the project.

Maybe you didn't face a later KYC problem. OP is asking for a later KYC announcement after the successful project. Recently take as an example of "Clipx" campaign. If your country doesn't support KYC, how will you receive your rewards? Some of us don't support sending their KYC. I don't like to send my information to any kind of scam projects. Overall, I think this is cheating on bounty hunters.

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I dont know i think it dependa on the rules project it self. If they stated from beginning that they can change rules so they do nothing wrong. It is really important to make a decision before participate on any project. Read rules carefully & if something going wrong you can quit anytime.

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Quote from: Towerbreeze on April 14, 2020, 02:10:01 AM

Cheating or NOT Cheating?

Coming from altcoinstalk forum I've experience few projects going against their own rules like saying on promotion page that no KYC will be required and after promotion ends they tell promoters to go and open account on an exchange and pass KYC, what can this be called? Cheating? Any consequences for such projects on this forum? Thank you.

Such project giving tokens after bounty ends and no passing kyc except for those projects are not willing to do kyc. But if you send it to exchanger that available that is available for kyc and not for the project.

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It's so funny, I see projects like that very often. they were really cheating at the beginning, they didn't say they had to be kyc in order to increase the community and promotion they got, after the end they changed the rules arbitrarily as required by Kyc with long-winded reasons.

totoy4741

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Some yes actually make last minute changes to the rules and some even make worst even than that like what clipx did. After bounty ended the team asked bounty hunters to go through kyc but right after all kyc had been done, they announced that they would not list or push through project leaving a the hunters in disgust because for robbing their identity. Get used to it, you'll see more of that coming.

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I have also joined bounty campaigns before with promises like that. I did a lot of effort performing tasks but eventually the manager, change the rules and KYC is required to received the stakes. For projects that I felt have great potential I was forced to submit KYC. Others I just ignored and moved on. I have accepted that joining bounty has risks involved.

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