Topic: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 (Read 3215 times)

interesting
time flies, things go by really fast
do you have a link for the interview
I think it would be interesting to watch it and I bet many other players could be interested on it

btw, are there any websites where we can bet on chess tournament outcomes?

Two years have passed unnoticed  and we have a new candidate tournament, now 2024.
Any thoughts on the participants? Magnus is not participating, but the other day he gave an interview where, talking about the most worthy, he suggested that it would be fair if Caruana became the next champion.
At the same time, he mentioned his past favorite Firuzja and Abasov. What do you think?

Ding Liren is the champion purely formally due to the fact that Magnus does not want to defend the title, and in fact now this title means nothing.
As for Fischer chess (the so-called chess with random placement of pieces), many believe that it is the future, since even with the help of computers you will never be able to prepare for the game due to the huge number of options for the initial placement of pieces (960 options). Thus, these chess shows the real power of chess thinking and not opening preparation (which is now entirely based on computer analysis). And as you can see, Magnus is still the strongest chess player on the planet.

was coming to ask if you know if we can find the PGNs of the game but then I had the idea to check lichess and here they are
https://lichess.org/broadcast/freestyle-chess-goat-challenge/final-2/x49Zp6dL#games

so if anyone wants to check the games in detail including moves and the possibility to go back and advance slow here's the link, hope it helps

Have you guys been watching the Freestyle Chess GOAT Challenge 2024? What are your thoughts on this kind of game format?

Personally, I feel like watching this format brings new excitement to chess given that it jumbles the position of the pieces. For example, the queen is placed on a different spot rather than on its original position for a new and exciting gameplay. This eliminates theory lines and preparation as the players will have no clue on the position of the pieces until they see it on the first time during their game.

Been checking the livestreams and I am quite sad for what has happened to Ding Liren.  Currently, Ding is struggling with this kind of setup and format as he is on a five (5) losing streak. Lots of people are sharing their opinions that the next WCC may have a new world champion.

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LIVESTREAM VIDEO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NufmnvYDW0

That's why it's really easy to pick Carlsen when there's a chess tournament betting, you can never go wrong picking him, maybe it would be not so easy pick if it's a blitz or a bullet chess tournament. I would love to see him play again and reclaim his throne as the World Champion but I have my reservations about him going back, maybe he should consider not going back and giving others the chance to duke it out with Ding.

To be honest, the fact that Magnus would refuse was not a surprise at all.
But you shouldn’t hope that FIDE will supposedly change something so that chess doesn’t stagnate - they can’t even make regulations for their competitions to at least weed out obvious cheaters. And by the way, quite recently the FIDE abolished the norm that did not allow the FIDE president to rule for more than two terms in a row, we are again returning to the times of endless presidents who are not interested in anything just to remain in their place.

Agreed on that, he is not a great champion at all and most likely we will get another world champion. Carlsen just confirmed he will not participate in the Candidates Tournament as he doesn't like the concept of the world championship. Hopefully the FIDE will change it in the future as would be great if Carlsen participates again.
https://www.chess.com/news/view/magnus-carlsen-confirms-yet-again-he-will-decline-candidates

Ding Liren is one of the most shameful champions I remember. First, cheating tournaments in China (which allowed him to get into the Candidates Tournament), then a complete absence from tournaments after receiving the title. By the way, the other day in some Chinese rapid tournament he disgraced himself by taking only 4th place. It seems that the name of the future champion will be determined in the candidates tournament since it will be less difficult to beat the current champion.

To many like me longevity is going to be a massive factor in determing the GOAT status of a chess player. And while Carlsen is definitely a GOAT in his own right, I still don't think he would hold a candle against Kasparov's decades upon decades of being at the top of the leaderboards with no real competition until the boy wonder. Even now he's still showing his GOAT status despite the fact that he retired from playing competitively a long time ago. Goes to show just how awesome the guy is. Carlsen is one of the greats and we cannot understate that. His ability to just fuck the whole board with variations from theories, but as I said earlier, he has to stay in the top of the leaderboard with a 2900 ELO rating for a long-ass amount of time before I even consider him better than Kasparov or something. Cause if we're only going for the basis of who beats who then that means Niemann's better than Carlsen lol.

He is definitely one of the best chess players of all time; I recently saw an interview with him and he considers Gary Kasparov as the GOAT but that is offcourse debatable. It would be nice if he would return to the World Championship for classic chess but he will need to participate in the candidates tournament as well and that is unlikely. The winner of that tournament will take on Ding Liren who is the reigning world champion.

Due to a lack of better Chess-related discussions, I am opening this thread again to discuss the recent events that happened in the last couple of days!

As you all know, Magnus Carlsen has won his FIFTH Rapid World Championship and his SEVENTH Blitz World Championship in which the latter just finished a couple of hours ago.

This feat is nothing but greatness due to the fact that there is a lot of strong players that participated in these matches. I really thought that Artemiev would have won the Blitz section given that he was in the lead the whole tournament but Magnus was able to get a 6 win streak which skyrocketed him to the top. From both the Rapid and the Blitz Championship, Magnus lost only ONCE against MVL in the blitz section.

What are your thoughts on this? I personally think that Magnus is the undisputed GOAT of Chess with these accomplishments. Now that Alireza has qualified for the candidates, will we see Magnus attempt at the World Classical Chess Championship next year?

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Image taken from: https://www.chess.com/news/view/2023-fide-world-rapid-chess-championship-day-3-carlsen-wins

https://www.youtube.com/@GMHikaru/videos In case you need a lot of details.



As you can see, the topic is very hype and Nakamura made almost every second video about it. In short, former world champion Vladimir Kramnik conducted his own mathematical studies of the results of chess players (on Title Tuesday) and came to the conclusion that some results were anomalous (suspicion of cheating).

His first idea was very interesting: he analyzed the decisive games of chess players (the result of which directly affected whether they would receive prize money or not) and found that some chess players in such games showed a much better level of play than in others (in the same tournament). He compared everyone under the same conditions, so it is difficult to suspect him of bias. At the moment there is no explanation for such “anomalies”.

His second idea is more debatable: he began to look for long winning streaks and tried to calculate the probability of their occurrence from a mathematical point of view. Well, it seems like when Nakamura plays against a player 300 rating points lower, then the probability of Nakamura winning is 80-85%, which means a streak of 55 wins in a row is very, very unlikely. The nuance here is that Nakamura was famous for his entire career for rating farming (he selected convenient opponents whom he could beat in at least 40 games out of 40, and used other legal tricks), so this accusation led to the fact that everyone began to criticize Kramnik himself and accuse him of paranoia.

Yes, his second idea was very dubious and, unfortunately, its discussion overshadowed the completely rational idea number 1. Now everyone continues to insist on their point of view, but the scandal has subsided a little, the only bad thing is that nothing useful (in terms of fighting cheaters) has been done.

I would expect that too, the mind and the body are one thing in the end.
A fit body will help achieve a peaceful mind and a peaceful mind will help to have the consistensy to remain training and keep up with your fitness goals.

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Do you have more details on this new weave of cheating scandals? haven't heard of it

You may be surprised, but chess requires serious physical preparation. I have a friend who is an international grandmaster, I met him when he did not yet have a FIFA rating and he was an ordinary candidate for master of sports. Even then, he regularly visited the gym to keep himself in good physical shape and he directly said that it was unrealistic to sit at the board for several hours in a row without good preparation. Therefore, it may be paradoxical, but many chess players have excellent athletic shape - for example, Danil Dubov. When I saw his thin face during games, I would never have thought that he had the body of a workout man - he loves horizontal bars.

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What can you say about the next wave of cheating scandals, which this time was started by Kramnik? He raises a very important topic, but unfortunately not always in the format of dialogue but rather categorical statements, so unfortunately many of his important thoughts remained in the shadow of the personal squabbles that he began with Nakamura. Unfortunately, we have absurd realities: everyone understands that there is a problem, but no one wants any solutions, and some (for example, chess.com) are not at all interested in getting rid of cheaters, since then their business will suffer. Some grandmasters have already announced that online chess is dead and it is difficult to disagree with them.

oh, leave me dancing for 6 hours but don't make me play chess for 2 non-stop
in my opinion it's much harder and more stressful to stay sitting down hyper concentraded into the chess battle
but maybe it's my lack of experience in the area
have been in less than 20 serious games in person
I play online way more often than irl

That's why we can not say that chess game is an easy one  cause even though we are not using our physical body to compete other players but still we use our mind to construct a good lineup and deference in order to prevent such mistakes that will lead as to defeat, so every move our opponent we must thing the Possible counter attract that our opponent can't counter. But it is hard to do that cause your opponent will do what you do in short both of you using your extraordinary mind.

exactly!
the combination of deep concentration and not moving from the place you are is really stressful for me
I wouldn't be a really good chess master, probably

What do you think about the fact that Ding Liren does not participate in tournaments after he won the chess crown? There was no news that he had any health problems, and given the fact that Magnus remains the strongest chess player in the world and continues to prove it in tournaments, Ding Liren’s behavior is quite shameful, it seems to me.

Your getting tires because your brain work so hard  and we are all know that compared to other activities chess is  an headache for some people cause we imagine the pattern and puzzles in that game that you need to  solve in a short period of time cause in tournament there's a timer in Evey move so you need to hurry before the time runs out.
 While you are dancing your body moves all your nerves  so the out come is that your body got exercise which we need that to stay healthy.