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Topic: China Urges Philippines to Ban All Online Gambling! - page 3. (Read 1387 times)

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Checked this issue again. So far the Philippine government haven't caved in, which is surprising considering how its president kisses Xi's ass all the time. Time will tell if they can keep it up.
The President as i heard on his statement about the issue is against gambling but the government need the money for it's project and besides it's not the president alone who will decide on this, this will pass on the congress if there are amendments on the gambling laws of the Philippines.


The Philippines was already humiliated with how the S China Sea issue is turning out, getting rid of an entire income stream just to appease the Chinese government would make it a laughing stock.
The West Philippine Sea issue is different and nothing to do with this one. How did you know that the Philippines is "getting rid of an entire income" on the West Philippine sea? Do you have insider that tells you what is happening?
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Why is China trying to control the Philippines in general? Not to mention, the lands that they have taken so far in the Philippines lol. Now this online gambling thing. But you can't erase the mentality of Filipinos to be fond in gambling. And, Chinese? Some of these sites were owned by them? Is there president ready to dump them?

They thought they have the power to dictate the decisions of the government. They are testing if the Phl govt will be persuaded by their call. But unfortunately, the Phl Pres said not at this time. I hope the Phil has the balls to throw these Chinese from the islands that are clearly not part of their country. If you will check the map that they want to fully control, it is out of their jurisdiction. Why in the world that they think it is owned by their forefathers, the reason why they insist to construct infrastructures on those islands?
I believe the Chinese govt thought that the Phl govt will always follow their whims.

If you're thinking about the China's side of this action, it's because of illegal gambling. Chinese are here in the Philippines because they're doing illegal gambling, in China, gambling is banned so they're going on different countries to make a gambling business.

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The Chinese government does not legally consider the lotteries a form of gambling. Illegal gambling in China remains common, including unofficial lotteries, clandestine casinos, and betting in games such as mahjong and various card games.

I also hate China for dictating what to do but I think this is for the better. If you go to the south part of Luzon, like in Cavite, Las Pinas, Paranaque and others, you can see a lot of chinese business there and that's gambling. Those people are retarded and disrespecting the law of China so they went to Philippines, that's why they're disrespecting the filipinos too.

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Why is China trying to control the Philippines in general? Not to mention, the lands that they have taken so far in the Philippines lol. Now this online gambling thing. But you can't erase the mentality of Filipinos to be fond in gambling. And, Chinese? Some of these sites were owned by them? Is there president ready to dump them?

They thought they have the power to dictate the decisions of the government. They are testing if the Phl govt will be persuaded by their call. But unfortunately, the Phl Pres said not at this time. I hope the Phil has the balls to throw these Chinese from the islands that are clearly not part of their country. If you will check the map that they want to fully control, it is out of their jurisdiction. Why in the world that they think it is owned by their forefathers, the reason why they insist to construct infrastructures on those islands?
I believe the Chinese govt thought that the Phl govt will always follow their whims.
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Why is China trying to control the Philippines in general? Not to mention, the lands that they have taken so far in the Philippines lol. Now this online gambling thing. But you can't erase the mentality of Filipinos to be fond in gambling. And, Chinese? Some of these sites were owned by them? Is there president ready to dump them?
I believe their government are too strict and forget the laws that applied to their country and citizens concern gambling was not valid to the Philippines.
Some of the site will definitely be owned by some China citizen since some of them moved to Philippine to play or work for the POGO company.
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Checked this issue again. So far the Philippine government haven't caved in, which is surprising considering how its president kisses Xi's ass all the time. Time will tell if they can keep it up. The Philippines was already humiliated with how the S China Sea issue is turning out, getting rid of an entire income stream just to appease the Chinese government would make it a laughing stock.

Well in Manila alone they do not respect the mayor there, I'm glad the mayor arrested some of them for littering and disobeying traffic rules and no smoking area, they thought they can treat the city as their own and bully everyone here, immigrations should act and give them a warning or deport these violators.

I remember one Chinese woman hurling her drink at a train station security when she was told she can't bring it inside. They really are rude af.
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Why is China trying to control the Philippines in general? Not to mention, the lands that they have taken so far in the Philippines lol. Now this online gambling thing. But you can't erase the mentality of Filipinos to be fond in gambling. And, Chinese? Some of these sites were owned by them? Is there president ready to dump them?
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I guess this is yet another tactic deployed by China since it might be worried that POGO's in the Philippines would have a detrimental

effect on Macau's gaming and tourism industry which I think would be possible once these offshore operations became widespread. Imho.
I am sure china has met their match because from my point of view, Philippines will not give in to this threat at all. I don’t even see the necessity of asking another country to make a ban, there would have been other approaches.

I am sure there’s a very close relationship between them but I hope this case will not abuse that because definitely at the end of the day one party will be hurt. Or if I am to suggest, maybe they should have an agreement or proper understand on this . I don’t know the reason Chinese is so much against online gambling site and this sites do not scam people. Even though they do, communication with the right bodies will get this eradicated with complicating issues.
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It's true that some chinese citizens don't follow the rules and regulations of the Philippine Country and in result the government of china will think that they are considered as slave or getting hurt in working or doing business in Philippines. I think the reason they violate the rule is because some are lazy enough to get the papers needed to have business in Philippine country.

How come Chinese do not follow the rule of Philippines or any other country ? They are going to Philippines on their own will and Chinese government do not want this to happen. If they are so concerned about it, why not Chinese government offer better employment opportunity in their own country.

China is already over populated and the people who can find other places to work will be entertained right away, in this case it's the gambling activities where the Chinese government is urging to be banned those Chinese operators who managed to get approvals from Philippines government are the one they are referring, since it's online and it's overseas they can't handle the situation making it more easier from the business owners and to those who are patronizing this activities.
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I don't think so, for simple reason, the gambling sites are operating in the Philippines, therefore they are under the laws and regulation of the government.
True, they are chinese citizen but they can always have their business outside china and those business are subject to the laws of regulation in a certain country where they are operating, in this case, the Philippines.

These Chinese have no problem operating in the Philippines if only they follow the laws/regulations on online gambling but some of them are just so hard-headed. Don't know why violate the law or they are in for some illegal businesses and online gambling is just a front.

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200 foreigners taken into custody for illegal online gaming
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1822131/Cebu/Local-News/200-foreigners-taken-into-custody-for-illegal-online-gaming


Well in Manila alone they do not respect the mayor there, I'm glad the mayor arrested some of them for littering and disobeying traffic rules and no smoking area, they thought they can treat the city as their own and bully everyone here, immigrations should act and give them a warning or deport these violators.
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I don't think so, for simple reason, the gambling sites are operating in the Philippines, therefore they are under the laws and regulation of the government.
True, they are chinese citizen but they can always have their business outside china and those business are subject to the laws of regulation in a certain country where they are operating, in this case, the Philippines.

These Chinese have no problem operating in the Philippines if only they follow the laws/regulations on online gambling but some of them are just so hard-headed. Don't know why violate the law or they are in for some illegal businesses and online gambling is just a front.

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200 foreigners taken into custody for illegal online gaming
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1822131/Cebu/Local-News/200-foreigners-taken-into-custody-for-illegal-online-gaming

I believe that it was not only some of them instead the majority of Chinese Gamblers,operators and employees are abusive and taking advantage the weaknesses of PHILIPPINE government

I guess this is yet another tactic deployed by China since it might be worried that POGO's in the Philippines would have a detrimental

effect on Macau's gaming and tourism industry which I think would be possible once these offshore operations became widespread. Imho.
If whatever tactics Chinese may have here the most affected party is the Philippines,they have been abusing this country for many occasions and this must be stopped
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It's true that some chinese citizens don't follow the rules and regulations of the Philippine Country and in result the government of china will think that they are considered as slave or getting hurt in working or doing business in Philippines. I think the reason they violate the rule is because some are lazy enough to get the papers needed to have business in Philippine country.

How come Chinese do not follow the rule of Philippines or any other country ? They are going to Philippines on their own will and Chinese government do not want this to happen. If they are so concerned about it, why not Chinese government offer better employment opportunity in their own country.
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These Chinese have no problem operating in the Philippines if only they follow the laws/regulations on online gambling but some of them are just so hard-headed. Don't know why violate the law or they are in for some illegal businesses and online gambling is just a front.
It's true that some chinese citizens don't follow the rules and regulations of the Philippine Country and in result the government of china will think that they are considered as slave or getting hurt in working or doing business in Philippines. I think the reason they violate the rule is because some are lazy enough to get the papers needed to have business in Philippine country.
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I don't think so, for simple reason, the gambling sites are operating in the Philippines, therefore they are under the laws and regulation of the government.
True, they are chinese citizen but they can always have their business outside china and those business are subject to the laws of regulation in a certain country where they are operating, in this case, the Philippines.

These Chinese have no problem operating in the Philippines if only they follow the laws/regulations on online gambling but some of them are just so hard-headed. Don't know why violate the law or they are in for some illegal businesses and online gambling is just a front.

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200 foreigners taken into custody for illegal online gaming
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1822131/Cebu/Local-News/200-foreigners-taken-into-custody-for-illegal-online-gaming
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unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines. 
The online gambling site didnt scam people but it the Chinese government that are not in support of online gambling cause it was consider illegal under the China laws. I believe the gambling situation which happened in China during last World cup was the reason why POGO choose Philippines but participation of china citizen in gambling either in China or overseas  is still consider illegal by the Chinese government.
I don't think so, for simple reason, the gambling sites are operating in the Philippines, therefore they are under the laws and regulation of the government.
True, they are chinese citizen but they can always have their business outside china and those business are subject to the laws of regulation in a certain country where they are operating, in this case, the Philippines.
I don't disagree with you about the gambling company been submitted to the rules and regulations of the certain country where their company is established/licensed but the Chinese rules were to restricted their citizen from gambling in or outside China.
Do a free google search and I will confirm my saying.


unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines. 
The online gambling site didnt scam people but it the Chinese government that are not in support of online gambling cause it was consider illegal under the China laws. I believe the gambling situation which happened in China during last World cup was the reason why POGO choose Philippines but participation of china citizen in gambling either in China or overseas  is still consider illegal by the Chinese government.


Chinese citizen had been gambling any where in the world, if it doesn't happen in China where the law is amended its not illegal. Many Chinese goes to Macau to play in Casino and they also do that here in the Philippines where most of them are rich businessmen in our country. They are even partly owner of these POGO. If there is an extradition agreement between Philippines and China, a lot of these Chinese gamblers would have been executed already.
We both know that they can gamble within China which is what happens during last World cup tournament but the Chinese government don't joke with their rules and regulation which was the reason why they urge the Philippines to ban POGO.
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unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines.  
The online gambling site didnt scam people but it the Chinese government that are not in support of online gambling cause it was consider illegal under the China laws. I believe the gambling situation which happened in China during last World cup was the reason why POGO choose Philippines but participation of china citizen in gambling either in China or overseas  is still consider illegal by the Chinese government.
I don't think so, for simple reason, the gambling sites are operating in the Philippines, therefore they are under the laws and regulation of the government.
True, they are chinese citizen but they can always have their business outside china and those business are subject to the laws of regulation in a certain country where they are operating, in this case, the Philippines.
Exactly, the rules that this Chinese citizens who's doing their business is inside the Philippine jurisdictions, meaning to say that they only need to answer and follow those laws accordingly, and with that, those Chinese operators are not being urge to be ban and stop their operations as they still following the guidelines under the umbrella of Philippine constitutions regarding to the ruling of online gambling.
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unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines.  
The online gambling site didnt scam people but it the Chinese government that are not in support of online gambling cause it was consider illegal under the China laws. I believe the gambling situation which happened in China during last World cup was the reason why POGO choose Philippines but participation of china citizen in gambling either in China or overseas  is still consider illegal by the Chinese government.


Chinese citizen had been gambling any where in the world, if it doesn't happen in China where the law is amended its not illegal. Many Chinese goes to Macau to play in Casino and they also do that here in the Philippines where most of them are rich businessmen in our country. They are even partly owner of these POGO. If there is an extradition agreement between Philippines and China, a lot of these Chinese gamblers would have been executed already.
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unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines.  
The online gambling site didnt scam people but it the Chinese government that are not in support of online gambling cause it was consider illegal under the China laws. I believe the gambling situation which happened in China during last World cup was the reason why POGO choose Philippines but participation of china citizen in gambling either in China or overseas  is still consider illegal by the Chinese government.
I don't think so, for simple reason, the gambling sites are operating in the Philippines, therefore they are under the laws and regulation of the government.
True, they are chinese citizen but they can always have their business outside china and those business are subject to the laws of regulation in a certain country where they are operating, in this case, the Philippines.
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unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines.  
The online gambling site didnt scam people but it the Chinese government that are not in support of online gambling cause it was consider illegal under the China laws. I believe the gambling situation which happened in China during last World cup was the reason why POGO choose Philippines but participation of china citizen in gambling either in China or overseas  is still consider illegal by the Chinese government.
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I guess this is yet another tactic deployed by China since it might be worried that POGO's in the Philippines would have a detrimental

effect on Macau's gaming and tourism industry which I think would be possible once these offshore operations became widespread. Imho.
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