China Urges Philippines to Ban All Online Gambling! - page 4.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 06, 2019, 06:13:37 AM

Quote from: lemipawa on September 06, 2019, 02:33:29 AM

The President of the Philippines Mr Rodrigo Duterte already made an announcement that he will listen to Chinas request but he will not implement such ban as Philippines needs money coming from tax. Mr Rodrigo Duterte thinks that by following the order of China, that have an impact in the unemployment rate here in the Philippines.

Source: https://business.inquirer.net/278242/duterte-wont-ban-pogos-many-will-lose-their-jobs

I think that was a good decision from the president although I do not agree, seeing how he manage the coffer I am ok with taxing these Chinese and the online gambling operation, the Philippines should have their own network of online gaming so they can also employ Filipinos, and not these Chinese coming here, some of them are bullying local people and not following ordinances from the local municipality.

Indeed. Since POGO is still legal in Philppines, labor code under the constitution of the Philippines should be implemented there. Hence, there should be a given order that limits Chinese employees there. Otherwise, chinese workers could be inferior in Filipino's own land causing more population of unemployed Filipino workers.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 06, 2019, 06:13:37 AM

the Philippines should have their own network of online gaming so they can also employ Filipinos, and not these Chinese coming here, some of them are bullying local people and not following ordinances from the local municipality.

I don't think the President will see it as a good idea, he even complain that there's a lot of corruption in the government own lottery, how much more if they will add another gambling business own by the government. Also, I think this POGO does not cater the Filipino people, they cater foreigner as gambling is illegal in the Philippines, just correct me if I'm wrong.

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Quote from: lemipawa on September 06, 2019, 02:33:29 AM

The President of the Philippines Mr Rodrigo Duterte already made an announcement that he will listen to Chinas request but he will not implement such ban as Philippines needs money coming from tax. Mr Rodrigo Duterte thinks that by following the order of China, that have an impact in the unemployment rate here in the Philippines.

Source: https://business.inquirer.net/278242/duterte-wont-ban-pogos-many-will-lose-their-jobs

I think that was a good decision from the president although I do not agree, seeing how he manage the coffer I am ok with taxing these Chinese and the online gambling operation, the Philippines should have their own network of online gaming so they can also employ Filipinos, and not these Chinese coming here, some of them are bullying local people and not following ordinances from the local municipality.

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The President of the Philippines Mr Rodrigo Duterte already made an announcement that he will listen to Chinas request but he will not implement such ban as Philippines needs money coming from tax. Mr Rodrigo Duterte thinks that by following the order of China, that have an impact in the unemployment rate here in the Philippines.

Source: https://business.inquirer.net/278242/duterte-wont-ban-pogos-many-will-lose-their-jobs

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 05, 2019, 04:41:46 AM

China really provide good offers to the Philippines. But it does not mean they will interfere in the country's business especially on online gambling. Yes China is powerful yet they should restrict their power to their own and not on how a country run online business.

I'm damn sure you just get the wrong information here. Of all countries in the world China has not interfere any country at all even the Hongkong which were somehow part of them. They still respect the independence of Hongkong due to agreements between them and Britain. If they are going to interfere to any country they would have to start with US to which they know they have dominate in terms of finance.

They cannot do that to the US in fact they've gave warning to China about interference
https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/06/01/19/us-warns-china-on-behavior-towards-its-asian-neighbors

They may have advanced in finance but it's impossible to for China to interfere with US affairs, in fact, they do the opposite they are the one who can interfere to any region's affair and history can prove that

They warn China? Lol and then US has the right to interfere Philippines?

Like US, China is also protecting their trade routes. US has nothing to do with Philippines but they keep circulating the law even the Iceland are interfering philippines but the news doesnt say they are interfering the terms used by the media was the Iceland is concern.

US maintains its threat in our region with the militarized GUAM which is few miles away from Phils. China claims their own on the otherside of Philippines. If philippines take sides on any of the two and follow which country says, we Filipinos are doomed. Our country will be the battle field.

Its best if the POGO continues and the Koreans who populates the basketball courts in quezoncity keeps playing the casinosa too. Qs long as they pay taxes ita good. All are going to be happy

Because of the changes, the Philippines has also become a great tourist destination, not just to those who want to enjoy beaches and the nature in the Philippines, they can also now enjoy gambling in the Philippines.

The increase of tourist and foreign workers in the Philippines is a sign of development, this only means that the government now are allowing opportunity to come in the Philippines and does not allow monopoly from corrupt big businessman in the Philippines. More competition would result to better service, and next thing will happen is more foreign investors will also find Philippines a good country to operate their business.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 05, 2019, 11:37:53 PM

Quote from: target on September 05, 2019, 11:22:38 PM

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 05, 2019, 04:41:46 AM

China really provide good offers to the Philippines. But it does not mean they will interfere in the country's business especially on online gambling. Yes China is powerful yet they should restrict their power to their own and not on how a country run online business.

I'm damn sure you just get the wrong information here. Of all countries in the world China has not interfere any country at all even the Hongkong which were somehow part of them. They still respect the independence of Hongkong due to agreements between them and Britain. If they are going to interfere to any country they would have to start with US to which they know they have dominate in terms of finance.

They cannot do that to the US in fact they've gave warning to China about interference
https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/06/01/19/us-warns-china-on-behavior-towards-its-asian-neighbors

They may have advanced in finance but it's impossible to for China to interfere with US affairs, in fact, they do the opposite they are the one who can interfere to any region's affair and history can prove that

They warn China? Lol and then US has the right to interfere Philippines?

Like US, China is also protecting their trade routes. US has nothing to do with Philippines but they keep circulating the law even the Iceland are interfering philippines but the news doesnt say they are interfering the terms used by the media was the Iceland is concern.

US maintains its threat in our region with the militarized GUAM which is few miles away from Phils. China claims their own on the otherside of Philippines. If philippines take sides on any of the two and follow which country says, we Filipinos are doomed. Our country will be the battle field.

Its best if the POGO continues and the Koreans who populates the basketball courts in quezoncity keeps playing the casinosa too. Qs long as they pay taxes ita good. All are going to be happy

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Quote from: target on September 05, 2019, 11:22:38 PM

Quote from: Ranly123 on September 05, 2019, 04:41:46 AM

China really provide good offers to the Philippines. But it does not mean they will interfere in the country's business especially on online gambling. Yes China is powerful yet they should restrict their power to their own and not on how a country run online business.

I'm damn sure you just get the wrong information here. Of all countries in the world China has not interfere any country at all even the Hongkong which were somehow part of them. They still respect the independence of Hongkong due to agreements between them and Britain. If they are going to interfere to any country they would have to start with US to which they know they have dominate in terms of finance.

They cannot do that to the US in fact they've gave warning to China about interference
https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/06/01/19/us-warns-china-on-behavior-towards-its-asian-neighbors

They may have advanced in finance but it's impossible to for China to interfere with US affairs, in fact, they do the opposite they are the one who can interfere to any region's affair and history can prove that

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Quote from: Natalim on September 05, 2019, 06:09:53 PM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 06:02:29 PM

Even if China urges Philippines to ban all online gaming if the Philippine Government supports it, the Philippine Government will not impose a ban. More likely it will be regulated than ban. I see there's a sudden increase of Chinese workers here in the Philippines for POGO and I heard operators of POGO are even planning to turn an island just for POGO.

That's good, the bigger it will become the bigger the taxes collected by the government.
Maybe this is the reason why Duterte suddenly stop the operation of Lottery one time because he knows even if Lottery will be gone, the government can still make a lot of money from POGO. I believe, the taxes the Philippines earn from POGO is bigger than the income they are getting from Lottery, anyone agrees?

I don't think they (POGO operators) are paying bigger taxes or the government is earning more from POGO operations than Lotteries. Philippine Lottery was stopped for a few days because of corruption within their ranks so they have to clean up the officers then resume operations. The problem with the sudden rise of POGO in the Philippines is the employees which are Chinese nationals, I don't know if they are paying their taxes right and sorry to say this and I am not generalizing this one, they don't follow building regulations like smoking areas, where to throw away their trash and I heard they are not paid properly by their employers, not sure if its true. Some of them are even brought here in the Philippines not knowing they will work in POGO industry.

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Quote from: Ranly123 on September 05, 2019, 04:41:46 AM

China really provide good offers to the Philippines. But it does not mean they will interfere in the country's business especially on online gambling. Yes China is powerful yet they should restrict their power to their own and not on how a country run online business.

I'm damn sure you just get the wrong information here. Of all countries in the world China has not interfere any country at all even the Hongkong which were somehow part of them. They still respect the independence of Hongkong due to agreements between them and Britain. If they are going to interfere to any country they would have to start with US to which they know they have dominate in terms of finance.

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Quote from: audaciousbeing on September 04, 2019, 12:03:39 PM

Even if the Chinese government is able to have their way by ensuring the Philippines government ban gambling, it does not mean the people will stop carrying out their gambling actions. What they would successfully do would be to create room for it to be done under the radar and from the preying eyes of government and its agencies. It then also means loss of revenue to the government of Philippines that would have been generated from the issue of licenses and other fees they would be obliged to pay because you cannot ban and still expect revenue from that same source.

It is a good point and this is the perception I also looked at from. There is a saying that a horse can be forced to the rivers but difficult to force to drink water. You can force them to ban it but what makes you think they will not find alternative means to play?

I think that the Chinese went to the extreme and I am very disappointed in such action but I only hope Philippines will not be under pressure to actually ban gambling in their country. I doubt if gambling was generating revenue for Philippines, if it is, then definitely, they will not even pay attention to Chinese government, they both have their territory.

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If there is no question for its legality, will it have to think that the Philippine President will spare these gambling owners to promote it in there? Not only China and the Philippines have a mutual understanding, but it is also to consider what could be good in our own territory. We never put some ends with this gambling institution, unless they scam people before in China and they would like to bring it in the Philippines.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on September 05, 2019, 06:02:29 PM

Even if China urges Philippines to ban all online gaming if the Philippine Government supports it, the Philippine Government will not impose a ban. More likely it will be regulated than ban. I see there's a sudden increase of Chinese workers here in the Philippines for POGO and I heard operators of POGO are even planning to turn an island just for POGO.

That's good, the bigger it will become the bigger the taxes collected by the government.
Maybe this is the reason why Duterte suddenly stop the operation of Lottery one time because he knows even if Lottery will be gone, the government can still make a lot of money from POGO. I believe, the taxes the Philippines earn from POGO is bigger than the income they are getting from Lottery, anyone agrees?

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Would you mind sharing where you check that statistics bro which shows Philippines was among the nation that loves casino. If you based your opinion on the members of this forum then i think it is not conclusive as members of this forum does not represent the entire population of the Philippines IMO.

Heard the news just yesterday where the president has already said that he could not ban POGO as it will affect the Philippine economy and the government has collected substantial amount of taxes from gambling.

I don't make the above statement base on the Philippine which are a member of this forum but I made the statement base on the economic situation and the current job level in the Phillippine cause there will be more job availability if the online gambling site are not ban. As you said, their President is not interested in ban gambling site due to the amount of taxes fund the nation earn through gambling site.

Business opportunity, this is what have seen in some Chinese people that come in the Philippines and start business regarding any form of gambling. Then now, the Chinese government wants to ban and dictate the Philippines because of their business was affected and the good taxes are starting missing on their place. A good thing to know now that the president of the Philippines did now follow the decision of the Chinese government.

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Even if China urges Philippines to ban all online gaming if the Philippine Government supports it, the Philippine Government will not impose a ban. More likely it will be regulated than ban. I see there's a sudden increase of Chinese workers here in the Philippines for POGO and I heard operators of POGO are even planning to turn an island just for POGO.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on September 04, 2019, 07:27:54 PM

Quote from: hulla on September 04, 2019, 06:55:47 PM

This definitely wont work and to me it totally a waste of time for the Chinese to urge the Philippines government to ban all the online gambling site cause the last time I checked Philippine was among the nation that loves casino game, dice gambling and sport betting either which is the reason why they also have spider, chicken betting game there.

Would you mind sharing where you check that statistics bro which shows Philippines was among the nation that loves casino. If you based your opinion on the members of this forum then i think it is not conclusive as members of this forum does not represent the entire population of the Philippines IMO.

Heard the news just yesterday where the president has already said that he could not ban POGO as it will affect the Philippine economy and the government has collected substantial amount of taxes from gambling.

I don't make the above statement base on the Philippine which are a member of this forum but I made the statement base on the economic situation and the current job level in the Phillippine cause there will be more job availability if the online gambling site are not ban. As you said, their President is not interested in ban gambling site due to the amount of taxes fund the nation earn through gambling site.

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Quote from: nakamura12 on August 30, 2019, 06:53:31 PM

What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

I think they are unhealthy measures, because both Chinese citizens and any citizen of any country should have the right to do whatever they want with their money, and games are always an option, where each person has their own criteria to manage their money, and like any consequence, the more they prohibit the more they will be prompted to do so, they will look for all the ways to play so prohibit it.

They can take away the games, not give the licenses, but the gaming industry is very large worldwide, a lot of money always moves there, some big gamblers who don't have casinos in their countries take as initiatives to follow through the platforms of Online games through cryptocurrencies taking advantage of Blockchain technology.

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Quote from: target on September 05, 2019, 03:46:01 AM

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China has been providing great offers to philippines and I think this is a good path because China is a super power ally.

In the 21st century, any restrictions should be perceived negatively. This also applies to gambling. Another way will surely be found to circumvent such limitations.

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Quote from: roosbit on September 05, 2019, 09:46:56 AM

And what business does China have to start controlling the Philippines on how the run their affairs?
Honestly these are the kind of things that get people fired up to fight for their rights when things get out of control with all these immigrants changing people's lifestyles!

And changing the economy of each country as well,because they are running the said country by their illegal works

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If the Chinese are the problem then immigration requirements to that country should be stiffened to discourage this form of gambling!

That’s also the problem the immigration seems to be Blinded by money ,how this kind of illegal workers can enter the country without their knowledge?or may I say “They don’t really look at “ 😂

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And what business does China have to start controlling the Philippines on how the run their affairs?
Honestly these are the kind of things that get people fired up to fight for their rights when things get out of control with all these immigrants changing people's lifestyles!

If the Chinese are the problem then immigration requirements to that country should be stiffened to discourage this form of gambling!

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Quote from: Saisher on September 05, 2019, 07:37:30 AM

Quote from: nakamura12 on August 30, 2019, 06:53:31 PM

What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

I think they should ban it, so these Chinese will not come to the Philippines and work as online gambling operators, there are so many of them now in the Philippines and some of them are working illegally, the immigrations cannot cope with the numbers they just keep coming and worse of all they are bribing authorities, they even bully the local people here.

Most of the property here at Philippines is owned by the chinese and I do not know the reason why government still allow that even the only rights to the property if the Filipino citizens I hope soon that POGO will be ban and the Chinese workers will be terminate to their country again and banning a chinese citizens to buy a any property so they will not operate a gambling.

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