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Topic: China Urges Philippines to Ban All Online Gambling! - page 8. (Read 1446 times)

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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.
I think the Chinese government just want to address their problem with their fellow countrymen who are illegally working on the PH. I think it's more like they don't want to make too much stain of their country for those Chinese people who work illegally in the PH casino. This i think is just an address to the situation and the Chinese government is not forcing the PH president to do it if it complicates something IMO.
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I don’t know what’s the real motive of China about this another controversy but what I think is the issue of illegal gambling in the Philippines and also the illegal workers that involving all Chinese people.but whatever’s their position in this matter they should have asked the president politely not like slaves that whenever they declaring something Filipino has no option but to follow them.l
But you are right that President Duterte is still the last words for this and I trust him to give good verdict in everything special involving our sovereignty and freedom

It's because Chinese people are trying to go here just to do gambling. China has already banned gambling in their country so some Chinese businessman are trying to make money here in the Philippines through Gambling.

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Online gambling is not available to customers based in the Philippines and websites of such firms are blocked. ... Online gambling remains illegal under Chinese law, but as of June 2019, there were 56 licensed POGOs and an estimated workforce of over 100,000 Chinese citizens in Manila working in this sector.

Well, it's for our own security and hopes that China doesn't have any plan to destroy our economic stability.

If you compare both china and Philippines , china is a much more economically stable country and they do not need to destroy the Philippines economy which is already under pressure. 
If china insist on this and there is no action from Philippines , they can ban their citizens on traveling to Philippines.
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I don’t know what’s the real motive of China about this another controversy but what I think is the issue of illegal gambling in the Philippines and also the illegal workers that involving all Chinese people.but whatever’s their position in this matter they should have asked the president politely not like slaves that whenever they declaring something Filipino has no option but to follow them.l
But you are right that President Duterte is still the last words for this and I trust him to give good verdict in everything special involving our sovereignty and freedom

It's because Chinese people are trying to go here just to do gambling. China has already banned gambling in their country so some Chinese businessman are trying to make money here in the Philippines through Gambling.

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Online gambling is not available to customers based in the Philippines and websites of such firms are blocked. ... Online gambling remains illegal under Chinese law, but as of June 2019, there were 56 licensed POGOs and an estimated workforce of over 100,000 Chinese citizens in Manila working in this sector.

Well, it's for our own security and hopes that China doesn't have any plan to destroy our economic stability.

To read more: https://www.rappler.com/nation/238192-china-wants-philippines-ban-online-gambling
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

The Philippines should ban Chinese using their facility to work as online operators, and the Philippines should just let their locals handle everything about online gambling, these Chinese are competing locals for work, they should just limit Chinese from entering the Philippines.
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Any further explanation about this news? Why are they talking about "modern slavery" is they are bullying a country and I think it is like the Philippines are their slaves telling us what to do or what to think of. It is all in the hands of our President, Rodrigo Duterte to ban or not to ban online gambling.
I don’t know what’s the real motive of China about this another controversy but what I think is the issue of illegal gambling in the Philippines and also the illegal workers that involving all Chinese people.but whatever’s their position in this matter they should have asked the president politely not like slaves that whenever they declaring something Filipino has no option but to follow them.l
But you are right that President Duterte is still the last words for this and I trust him to give good verdict in everything special involving our sovereignty and freedom
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Those illegal workers should be send home and not to allow to do their stuff inside Philippine land, but it will still be depending from how the government will take this call and how they will favor the urgency of this issue, in terms of online gambling the government have it's own sets of rules there's good chances that it will keep that and it won't affect other online gambling institutions especially those who are covered and following the rules of govern institutions.
I agree with you that they should be send home and my opinion is that it is the best solution. Chinese won't work illegally or become a modern slave that they don't have freedom and no gambling companies or institutions will be affected or the same as you mentioned.
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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.
It is indeed true that it's not the Philippines fault that chinese citizens are gambling or work illegally in the Philippines. What I think is that they should just set a rule that of they found out a chinese work illegally then they must be brought to prison because of it and leave Philippine Government out of it.
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Philippines, obviously, will not ban all online gambling casinos but might impose tighter regulations to prevent illegal Chinese workers.

While it sounded inappropriate, this "urging" is still good for me. It shows that the Chinese government is also serious and I won't be surprised if a cooperation between the two countries will be formed to combat illegal workers.
Those illegal workers should be send home and not to allow to do their stuff inside Philippine land, but it will still be depending from how the government will take this call and how they will favor the urgency of this issue, in terms of online gambling the government have it's own sets of rules there's good chances that it will keep that and it won't affect other online gambling institutions especially those who are covered and following the rules of govern institutions.
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I don't think that the Philippines will heed to China's call to ban all online gambling because one of the main source of income came from the casinos may it be online or offline and it's very critical to have that income as the Duterte administration needed that badly to fund the build build build program.

For now, maybe they can ban all Chinese from gambling on the Philippine soil, they can come here only as tourist.

The government's leader of the Philippines as of now is a smart and down to earth man, he would definitely stop illegal activities including gambling or not, online or not if it is against the laws. As far as the Chinese folks abide the laws of the country, they won't have any problems with the kind of business they will establish. As of now, I only heard one local gambling called the lottery, because it's corrupted and are somewhat against the laws, even if it a big company he doesn't care, any nationals can have their way of building casinos as long as it follows the rules, with or without China's heed.
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Philippines, obviously, will not ban all online gambling casinos but might impose tighter regulations to prevent illegal Chinese workers.

While it sounded inappropriate, this "urging" is still good for me. It shows that the Chinese government is also serious and I won't be surprised if a cooperation between the two countries will be formed to combat illegal workers.
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It is a wrong move in the Philippines president if they follow the dictation on the Chinese government to ban all form of gambling in the Philippines. If there are Chinese people who involved in that online business gambling industry they must restrict by their own people, not by the country of the Philippines. Nevertheless, I have doubt that this is not urging force but instead a piece of friendly advice. The country of the Philippines was friendly of their neighbor country but when it comes dictating I dunno if they will follow, sounds like slavery if they do.

If they follow what china is dictating them, then for sure it will come under slavery. No independent county can follow other countries directions and rules. However Philippines government can see how it can mutually benefit both the countries. Also there are many POGO licensed being issued already, so if this ban is implemented  how will it impact the current market.
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It is a wrong move in the Philippines president if they follow the dictation on the Chinese government to ban all form of gambling in the Philippines. If there are Chinese people who involved in that online business gambling industry they must restrict by their own people, not by the country of the Philippines. Nevertheless, I have doubt that this is not urging force but instead a piece of friendly advice. The country of the Philippines was friendly of their neighbor country but when it comes dictating I dunno if they will follow, sounds like slavery if they do.
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).


Gambling is already ban in china. But around 250,000 Plus (Rough Estimate)  chinese nationals are doing gambling Jobs through this Pogo services. If they only ban the Chinese nationals, this problem can be solved. But I doubt Philippines have any intentions of doing this.
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What do you guys think about China urges to ban all online gambling in Philippines?. One of their reason is that "The embassy said many of the Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippine casinos or POGOs and other forms of gambling entities are subjected to what media described as modern slavery due to severe limitation of their personal freedom and also Beijing welcomed the suspension of the issuance of new licenses for Philippine offshore gaming operations (POGO).

Why would you ban the gambling in Philippines ?  If Chinese citizens working illegally in Philippines with their own will, china should make rules for their own country to discourage such activities. You cannot ask another country to ban something, only because of your own citizens.
POGO offer online gambling services not only to china but worldwide. The Filipinos have small percentage of them working there and mostly are the other countries nationals including china.
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I don't think that the Philippines will heed to China's call to ban all online gambling because one of the main source of income came from the casinos may it be online or offline and it's very critical to have that income as the Duterte administration needed that badly to fund the build build build program.

For now, maybe they can ban all Chinese from gambling on the Philippine soil, they can come here only as tourist.

And I don't think the Chinese government have the right to order or direct another sovereign country on what to do about its policies whatsoever. If the Chinese are to stop gambling in Philippine, then the embassy should be closed from absenting people from Philippine.
I don't think that the Chinese government is ordering the Philippines to stop gambling, that's just a friendly request/statement to stop crimes committed by Chinese in the Philippines because of gambling. I don't think someone could dictate the President of the Philippines on what to do here but for sure he will consult his advisers on this matter and he will decide whatever is good for the Filipino people and not for the welfare of the foreigners in the country. 
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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.
There's separate laws between this countries and yes I agree that they can't interfere whatever decisions PH will decide to this matter, they should be strict sending their people here and work with illegal gambling activities, though since this  two leaders have good bond there's also chances that it will be grant by the president if this issue  also will affect the nation.

Well, their sovereignty is different, even though  two leaders are very close, but if Philippine leader take  action requested by China, there will certainly be many protests from  people. Each country is free to regulate its own country without governing or governed by other countries, I think Philippines must remember that.

I think  two countries are better off making agreements that are specific to Chinese citizens who are in Philippines alone, if they violate, extradition legal policies of  two countries will apply and these offenders must be prepared to be deported to China. It is unfortunate indeed if  Philippine government also prohibits all forms of gambling only because of Chinese citizens while  population of gamblers in their country is very high.
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Philippines is a small economy and it depends on more neighboring countries for the development. This can be of infrastructure, and various other forms of development. China will not force without any perfect plan, and this time of Philippines didn't take necessary precautions China will surely make some strategies to eliminate.

From a common man's view Philippines won't consider this a big issue, because even if Philippines ban all form of gambling activities still there'll be gambling through bookies and other sources.
If someone violating the rules of their country then they will face legal actions so most of the activities will be stopped from gamblers side but like you said it will encourage more illegal form of gambling which can be never restricted by the government and also they will lose taxes by banning the gambling activities in their country.
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I don't think that the Philippines will heed to China's call to ban all online gambling because one of the main source of income came from the casinos may it be online or offline and it's very critical to have that income as the Duterte administration needed that badly to fund the build build build program.

For now, maybe they can ban all Chinese from gambling on the Philippine soil, they can come here only as tourist.

And I don't think the Chinese government have the right to order or direct another sovereign country on what to do about its policies whatsoever. If the Chinese are to stop gambling in Philippine, then the embassy should be closed from absenting people from Philippine.
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Here's an actual news article on the subject for those interested in learning more:

https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/08/22/1945493/china-urges-philippines-ban-all-online-gambling

If the Philippines agree to that, will they stop bullying the country?

I don't think so. They roam the seas that they do not own, and now they want us to ban online gambling for them? If I will be the one deciding to this I will say no. Filipinos are not fund of online gambling so I don't think this is a problem in our country. That is their problem, not ours.
Hell no. This issue is nothing to do about harassment of China in the Philippines especially on the islands which have more controversy.

It doesn't have anything to do with Chinese harassment directly but it would be a bitch move if Philippines decided to ban all online gambling because the Chinese told them to. Obviously China has its own problems -- they should stop restricting the freedoms of their own people instead of asking other countries to restrict theirs.
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Why would they urge Philippines to ban online gambling?? It's not Philippines' fault if Chinese citizens would work illegally in the Philippines, as if they're forcing them to do so. I know Philippines especially Duterte are being kind to China but that doesn't give rights to China to interfere about Philippine government and their action towards an issue and the country.
There's separate laws between this countries and yes I agree that they can't interfere whatever decisions PH will decide to this matter, they should be strict sending their people here and work with illegal gambling activities, though since this  two leaders have good bond there's also chances that it will be grant by the president if this issue  also will affect the nation.
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